Jameis Talk Of “Worried” Bucs Highlights Weakness
June 25th, 2018
For those who missed it, Jameis Winston himself joined the Ira Kaufman Podcast two weeks ago and dropped his share of revealing takes.
One makes the latest news of Jameis’ suspension even more ominous.
To refresh your memory, Joe asked a simple question of Jameis about spring 2018 practices. Jameis quickly went to the distraction card that was prevalent in 2017.
JoeBucsFan.com: Gerald McCoy says the practices already have been different compared to last year’s OTAs. How can you, Jameis, explain to fans what’s been different in OTAs, what’s been different in the building?
Jameis Winston: Well, I think it’s just been pretty clear that we were aware that we didn’t succeed to the expectations [of] us last year. But this year it’s more about us. We’re not worried about Hard Knocks. We’re not worried about anything outside. We’re worried about our individual craft and our individual improvement. So once everybody focuses on themselves first, that’s how you make sure that you’re doing everything you need to do to add to the betterment of the team.
Joe: So that’s the difference. Sort of coming in with that attitude versus maybe learning it a quarter through the season or picking it up.
Jameis: Absolutely.
Essentially, this exchange was Jameis admitting the team got too distracted by off-field nonsense last year, but this year “we’re not worried about anything outside.”
Well, now the looming Jameis suspension is an even bigger distraction than Hard Knocks and high expectations were in 2017. That’s a rough combination for team that’s proven to be mentally weak.
How will they handle this year’s big, fat distraction, especially when it revolves on the player most Bucs consider the leader of the team?
Frankly, Joe thinks the only way the Bucs stay focused enough to win and get out of this funk is to literally bury Jameis on the depth chart — in practices and in all aspects of offensive work sessions — and let this be 100 percent Ryan Fitzpatrick’s team until Jameis returns.
Joe doesn’t think the Bucs roster can handle the internal circus of Jameis being an influential force in training camp and then disappearing for three weeks.
June 25th, 2018 at 9:54 am
@Joe
Joe doesn’t think the Bucs roster can handle the internal circus of Jameis being an influential force in training camp and then disappearing for three weeks.
100% agree. Maybe the best thing for this team will be the three weeks he’s not allowed to be at the facility…Assuming he doesn’t end up in a bar and need a ride home.
June 25th, 2018 at 9:55 am
How about his integrity???
As a man who is supposed to lead this team, he is a liar…
Who is supposed to trust him now?
Anyone with have their brain cells intact on that roster or in the front office should know not to trust a liar.
June 25th, 2018 at 9:56 am
Agreed , 100% ! He has brought this crap on the team and he best humble himself and make amends .
June 25th, 2018 at 9:56 am
Wsnt to guess what this years off field nonsense and distraction is Mr Winston ?
June 25th, 2018 at 10:11 am
I think the most significant difference is the fact that we went into last season with high expectations and this year may be the opposite.
We all know we do better as the dog.
June 25th, 2018 at 10:15 am
“Jameis quickly went to the distraction card”
I imagine he has those printed by the 100’s
June 25th, 2018 at 10:15 am
So Jameis says: “We’re not worried about anything outside. We’re worried about our individual craft and our individual improvement.”
And “So once everybody focuses on themselves first, that’s how you make sure that you’re doing everything you need to do to add to the betterment of the team.”
What a load. This would be worth the words if it came from a guy who is credible. From a proven leader and QB like Ryan, Brees, etc. Does anyone believe what Winston says right now?
June 25th, 2018 at 10:17 am
“We all know we do better as the dog” No playoff since 2007, only the Browns are worse…do better as the dog? We are the dog!
June 25th, 2018 at 10:18 am
“Frankly, Joe thinks the only way the Bucs stay focused enough to win and get out of this funk is to literally bury Jameis on the depth chart — in practices and in all aspects of offensive work sessions — and let this be 100 percent Ryan Fitzpatrick’s team until Jameis returns.”
Joe, what do you think they should do if Fitz is tearing it up…doing well enough to win at the QB position? Wait til Fitz falters? How can Winston be ready if he’s buried on the depth chart and then comes back as starter regardless?
June 25th, 2018 at 10:19 am
@Joe … “Frankly, Joe thinks the only way the Bucs stay focused enough to win and get out of this funk is to literally bury Jameis on the depth chart — in practices and in all aspects of offensive work sessions — and let this be 100 percent Ryan Fitzpatrick’s team until Jameis returns.” Yea verily. Jameis has undoubtedly lost a lot of trust from his teammates in this unfortunate episode. Not that easy to earn back.
June 25th, 2018 at 10:20 am
It’s been 2 years Roy. A lot could and probably has changed.
Why is everyone overlooking that? We all know damn well he’s been very good since in both the community and his work ethic.
Maybe just maybe being engaged and expecting has matured the man. The haters have made up their minds though.
June 25th, 2018 at 10:22 am
Pete with this coaching staff and QB we have perfomed better as the dog.
You really going to encompass the entire franchise history to this squad? Hmmnnn
June 25th, 2018 at 10:27 am
Buccernutter
If my balls were, or were about to be, in a vice over sexual misconduct allegations (again) I might be trying to front as a community guy too…Might even marry my girlfriend to make the optics better.
Afraid it’s too little, too late
June 25th, 2018 at 10:30 am
Jmarkbuc
Just don’t be surprised when its not too little or too late and he remains a buc.
You say that but he didn’t even know this was going to surface lol. It was 2 years man. I’m sure he thought it was dead.
June 25th, 2018 at 10:35 am
It’s funny that your boy Todd Wright just skyrocketed Djax’ fantasy value for at least the 1st 3 games…
I like how Fitz just distributes the ball to our playmakers and tries to take what the defense gives us…
That’s all this offense really needs from the QB position in order to click and be successful.
Hopefully Jameis studies that and really tries to emulate that when he returns…
June 25th, 2018 at 10:36 am
#itsBucslife of course Kirk cousins or case Keemun couldn’t have hit free agency next year. The nfls findings are going to make or break Jameis career.
I supported Jameis from the beginning but if anything comes out that he indeed did something no way the nfl let’s him taint the shield. They will kick him to the curb and burry him in the report. You can’t tell me if the evidence is there that Jameis will get another shot in the nfl, if Colin kapernick got blacked balled for kneeling. 10 years ago maybe in today’s PC nfl hell no Jameis is toast.
Is the worse case scenario happens with him we need to add a savy vet. Make the call for Nick Foles.
June 25th, 2018 at 10:37 am
HK is an excuse…..the coaches should’ve kept this team focus…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!….GO BUCS!!!
June 25th, 2018 at 10:39 am
“Pete with this coaching staff and QB we have perfomed better as the dog.
You really going to encompass the entire franchise history to this squad? Hmmnnn”
Ok, fair enough. 3 years and no playoffs. We are the dog in the NFC South.
June 25th, 2018 at 10:42 am
Or should I say *IF he returns….
I’m sure you know that the NFL can still extend the suspension if damning testimony keeps coming out against Jameis…
It might end up being a 6 to 8-game suspension when it’s all said and done.
June 25th, 2018 at 10:46 am
2016 4-12 prediction, ended 9-7
2017 10-6 prediction, went 5-11
We do better as the 🐕
June 25th, 2018 at 10:51 am
Buccernutter
I have 0 doubt that he will be here. Never said anything different. Still think he has/had a guilty conscience,. Rightly so, apparently
June 25th, 2018 at 10:55 am
I disagree. Fitz is a plug-and-play vet. I’m not worried about him being able to handle 3 games. He could start 3 games for the cardinals tomorrow and still work some fitzmagic. You absolutely do not bury Jameis AKA YOUR LEADER.
Jameis needs to develop/continue developing chemistry with OJ/DJAX/RJONES/Godwin. When do you expect that to develop if Jameis is buried on the roster?
June 25th, 2018 at 11:00 am
If Fitz is the starter opening day, You would expect him to get the work in TC.
June 25th, 2018 at 11:04 am
Oh yes he has. I just have confidence in the guy. He knows the difference and has made mistakes like all of us.
Fitz is absolutely capable of winning. I have a lot of faith in him
Just think saints won’t have ingram and usually suck to start the season. We beat them with 4 turnovers in week 17!
Eagles will have a hobbled Wentz and Superbowl hangover.
Pitt loses to bad teams every year.
Don’t sleep on our defense.
June 25th, 2018 at 11:35 am
Everybody is talking about 3 games as if all of the sudden Jameis shows up sharp…..I have my doubts about that….but, I agree…you have to prepare Fitz for at least the first 3 games…..and that means not sleeping on Ryan Griffin either…..he, all of the sudden becomes relevant.
June 25th, 2018 at 11:35 am
This is why I say if Jameis gets a 3 game suspension then we might not see him on the field until after the bye. If he takes a backseat during TC, and then serves his suspension (can’t practice with team during suspension) it will probably take a few practices after that to get game ready. We have a bye after the 4th game with Chicago so we won’t probably get Jameis back until our game with Atlanta.
June 25th, 2018 at 11:50 am
One issue that folks dont tend to be aware of is the locker room structure….Many times the highest paid guys are basically crowned by the team as the leaders and the other guys understand that those that make less have less of the team’s interest at stake.
Winston is a #1 pick so everyone in the locker room knows he’s THE guy…then you have Winston somewhat making it known that he’s THE guy….so now you have this dynamic where his teammates are forced to deal with all this nonsense with questions from the media…..These guys have egos and instead of maybe the focus being on what they did, the questions keep circling back to Winstons issues…..That gets old and can change the dynamics of a locker room. These guys want their credit no different then any other athlete…Take McCoy for example….great teammate, no off field issues ever, makes almost the most of all players on the team and has had an excellent career. He’s got to come in every day now and talk about Winston and Uber…..not the potential of the defense….not the new coach….but some bs unrelated to the defense or him and this will be the discussion all training camp. That gets old….JPP, same scenario….he just got traded here, he doesn’t even know Winston yet now he has to tip toe around all this. The veteran guys are probably going to tell him enough…..just shut the hell up and perform.
June 25th, 2018 at 1:24 pm
It amazes me how many “experts” post comments about how they think things are going to go, they know what allegedly happened in the Uber, and how quick people are to judge America’s QB Jameis Winston. The players love Jameis while the fans seem to hate him. I hope Jameis gets out of Tampa and gets away from this dumpster fire of a fan base, coaching staff, and GM. I’m Jameis I Trust! Famous Jameis will shrug this off and move on.
June 25th, 2018 at 1:37 pm
@Trench War … “We have a bye after the 4th game with Chicago so we won’t probably get Jameis back until our game with Atlanta.” Have been thinking exactly the same thing. If Fitz goes 2-1 & is playing well, Koetter would be nuts to bench him in favor of a QB who hadn’t practiced for over 3 weeks. If Fitz isn’t playing well, or if the Bucs are 1-2 or worse, different story. Might as well bite the bullet then.
June 25th, 2018 at 1:54 pm
How about just drop Winston all together. “Drop Winston.” — Unified Chorus.
June 25th, 2018 at 2:07 pm
Joe – it’s insanity to think that Ryan F should lead a team. Look at the history of the head coaches who have entrusted this guy with the job. Koetter and Licht are already fighting for their careers. Entrusting that in Fitz is insanity – literally.
I agree to bury Jameis. But bury him behind another starter level guy that can come in and compete like hell against Fitz for the job. Promise Jameis NOTHING. Let Fitz and another QB battle it out. Winner takes all. Then make Jameis earn his job back.
they won’t do this. they’ll coddle Jameis. they’ll gift Fitz the first three games and he’ll keep the Bucs close and then lose. And we’ll talk about how we were just a play or two away from being 2-1 instead of 0-3.
Such a loser mentality to gift the job to Fitz who has never won anything. Bring in guys who have. There are several out there who have led their teams to the playoffs and even won a Super Bowl MVP.
Good teams go after it. Bad teams gift jobs to guys who have never succeeded. Let’s see what the Bucs do. Historically, it’s both obvious and sickening what they’ll do.
June 25th, 2018 at 2:52 pm
Jaboo will sit his 3 games then blow up the NFL
June 25th, 2018 at 4:20 pm
Honestly that’s the best take over ever heard on this site!!!!!
Yes he’ll get suspended and yes you could impose additional fines and or games but what if you made this guy earn starting time? How much harder would he have to work and study and focus to get back on the field if Fitz is playing well…..I love it I’d buy him until he grows up or even make him sure the rest of the year especially if as a coach or gm I could lose my job anyway because you can’t control yourself around women
June 25th, 2018 at 4:32 pm
Unfortunately, what we are witnessing folks, is the future (about 10 years from now) 30 for 30 segment on Jameis Winston. This is the perfect script for another Buccaneer nightmare draft pick that seemed so promising and exploded in their face. As a die hard Buc fan since 1980, I am all too familiar with how this story will inevitably play out. Superstar, Heisman trophy winning, national championship winning, record setting Buccaneer quarterback poised for HOF induction falls from grace in a systematic unraveling career torpedoed by bad decisions and questionable character traits. You are who you are when no one is seemingly watching you. Think about that one people. Jameis failed us all in a spectacular way and appeared to try and cover it up. Not in this day and age you can’t cover it up bro. You, Mr. Winston, had your second chance and threw it away for what? You get what you deserve which is eventual banishment from the NFL if you continue to do stupid things and hang with the wrong people. Cut him outright and send a message you screwed up drafting him. Move on. Go Bucs!
June 25th, 2018 at 5:30 pm
Better hope it’s 3 weeks. I could see Winston’s camp trying to get ahead of NFL by influencing the public opinion. I hope Goodell is at 3 games. Its strangely quiet from NFL. Maybe this leak made things worse. Or maybe the leak was hopeful thinking.
June 25th, 2018 at 7:53 pm
I could survive for my whole life with what Winston has been paid already and so could millions of Americans. So yeah, the rents too damn high. I’ll take the Bucs plus the points to upset the Saints in the opener for 200 dollars Alex.
June 25th, 2018 at 9:50 pm
‘let this be 100 percent Ryan Fitzpatrick’s team until Jameis returns.’
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+1000
June 26th, 2018 at 4:58 am
Could be a blessing in disguise. If Fitz has the team winning (tough schedule!) with the same players in place that Winston will have upon return it will prove that the Bucs can win with just an adequate quarterback. It would give team Glazer much leverage at the bargaining table to not overpay at the qb position.