Bucs In Bottom Tier Of Drafting & Developing
May 6th, 2018
GM Jason Licht
Interpretation of this data falls under the category of “you decide.”
Joe found it while researching and it seems to tell a story of Jason Licht’s four-year regime.
Last season, per the head-counters at Pro Football Focus, the Buccaneers ranked 21st in the NFL at playing players drafted by the team, meaning 20 teams gave more snaps to homegrown talent acquired in the draft.
Of the 11 teams that had fewer homegrown snaps, only three had winning records: Chargers, Bills and Ravens.
NFL personnel people like to say the good teams draft and develop players. So it’s probably no coincidence that 11 of the 20 teams ahead of the Bucs in homegrown snaps made the playoffs, though Joe isn’t looking at any other data on this. It’s just a one-year, thought-provoking stat.
Of course, guys like Adam Humphries, Cameron Brate and Peyton Barber weren’t drafted but were certainly completely developed under Licht’s tenure. Demar Dotson was a Mark Dominik find off the street but he’s about as homegrown as it gets for the Bucs. However, other teams have those types of players, too.
One would think this will be a strong year for drafted Buccaneers getting playing time, but it’s impossible to predict.
May 6th, 2018 at 11:10 am
Bottom tier? Well, they are wrong there! Bucs are among the top in drafting quality players. PFF prefers to go for the showy picks, not the quality picks.
May 6th, 2018 at 11:13 am
Jason is an okay scout but he has made some head scratching moves
May 6th, 2018 at 11:13 am
Impossible to predict but fun to speculate about. Let’s see the long list of UDAs and tryout players soon. About 40 guys I think. At least one promising RB and one OT as I recall. Plus a safety.
May 6th, 2018 at 11:17 am
Sure Jason Licht is responsible for drafting these players. Must Jason be responsible for developing them too??? I feel as many others do that the Buccaneers had enough talented players last year to do better than they did.
May 6th, 2018 at 11:21 am
Bonzi,
Bucs are bottom tier in every category of professional football. Owning the leagues worst winning percentage and not even playing in a game that matters for over a decade is all the proof you need.
It’s one thing to be optimistic that being said your level of denial is beyond hilarious.
You do understand that the object of pro football is to WIN. Bucs have never contended outside of 1 Gruden year and 1 McKay year.
May 6th, 2018 at 11:28 am
Sounds like mis-interpretation of badly categorized “info” to me. Dude, there’s nothing to misinterpret. It’s a snap count of drafted players. –Joe
We are talking about PFF though sooo….
D. Smith, Ali Marpet, Pamphile, Benenoch, OJ Howard, Mike Evans, Godwin, Winston, Doug Martin, Sims
GMC, Gholston, Spence, L. David, Kwon, Beckwith, Bond, Hargreaves, Ryan Smith, Justin Evans, Tandy
Not a legit comparison if you don’t add UDFA’s recruited and developed – Dotson, Brate, Humphries, Barber, Cross, Elliot, Auclair, Wester, Bobo
There’s 30 out of 53 players on last year’s roster that were “homegrown”.
So PFF’s “ranking” says there are 20 teams with more homegrown talent than the Bucs eh?
Yea right. Whatever. That info as about as useful (and accurate) as PFF is known for….
May 6th, 2018 at 11:28 am
All the LOVE fo Ozzie Newsome and Baltimore is on bottom of the list?
May 6th, 2018 at 11:37 am
Great line up pickgrin. PFF is useless
May 6th, 2018 at 11:40 am
“Report” Philadelphia eagles said this is a stupid stat that is pointless based on one year and not a general managers tenure. Guess they can’tsince they get fired so often.
May 6th, 2018 at 11:40 am
Mark Dominic.
May 6th, 2018 at 11:56 am
When your whole 2016 draft class is a bust what can you expect. Hopefully this class will fare better.
May 6th, 2018 at 12:16 pm
That wasn’t a shot at you Joe. It was a shot at PFF for releasing a “ranking” like this without considering the actual accuracy of such a contention due to not including or considering missing yet important details – as usual…
May 6th, 2018 at 12:26 pm
Reality
Please tell me your omission of Tony Dungy was an oversight. See Bucs Rams 1999 NFC Championship and widely debated Bert Emanuel no catch after replay , which actually resulted in a rule change that offseason.
May 6th, 2018 at 12:43 pm
Jason buys the groceries, it’s up to the chefs to make the meal.
May 6th, 2018 at 12:50 pm
This list is a 4 year aggregate. There were not a lot of good young players when Licht took over for Dominick. So the snaps for home grown players was lower early in Licht’s tenure. If they narrowed the data to the last 2 years, I believe Licht would be near the top.
As for destinjohnny’s comment about the head scratching moves, that’s true of every general manager in the league. You’re only firmiliar with the bucs moves. To make an accurate assessment you need more perspective. I know Bill Bellichek isn’t the Pats GM but look at some of the dumb moves he makes and most will say he’s one of the best.
May 6th, 2018 at 12:53 pm
Wow, …now I really feel like crap
May 6th, 2018 at 12:54 pm
On their podcast they noted that over a long period of time, the team trading down almost always gets the better of the deal. Nevertheless, they noted it wasn’t a zero sum game, particularly when a QB needy team traded picks with teams that already have a QB.
They also talked about this year for next year trades, noting that over the long term next-year beat this-year by a usurious margin. Just look at what the Patriots did trading for next year’s picks. They seem to make a point to trade with teams whose current expectations are welll above their 10 year moving average, knowing that with a few exceptions in every era, the NFL is a regress to the mean league.
May 6th, 2018 at 1:26 pm
Licht was ranked as the 20th GM in the NFL. At the time I agreed with that ranking. This PFF evaluation falls right in line at #21. I will move our GM up two spots and rank him at #18. I appreciate what our GM did in free agency this off season and I believe the Bucs draft this year was a very solid one if not down right “masterful”.
May 6th, 2018 at 2:20 pm
He recovered 2 picks this year to erase his Aguayo error and for ASJ being a punk diva.
If Mj, Ronald, and Carlton become starters.
Then all is forgiven.
If Cappa becomes a starter, then wow! This guy is the best GM in Bucs history by far.
If Jordan Whitehead starts this year, every hater on here needs to go away.
If Watson becomes our #5, our backup to Godwin is there.
Evans, D-Jax, Godwin, Hump, Watson- that’s a legit NFL WR crew!!
Finally!
Remember dumba$$ Dom with his 4.6 receivers!
May 6th, 2018 at 2:35 pm
This years draft was probably the most impressive……on paper. At some point you have to build a winner, that’s the expectation.
May 6th, 2018 at 2:48 pm
All of a sudden it dawns on me … Wonder if the other 31 teams spend so much time looking BACKWARDS. Looking at the Bucs’ present roster I count 91 players. Every single one of them undoubtedly believes that they can make this team, but at least 38 of them won’t (probably more than that). Point is … to those 91 players, it doesn’t matter who’s ‘homegrown’ and who’s not. That’s yesterday’s news. They’re ALL fighting for a roster spot. May the best men win, regardless of where they came from.
May 6th, 2018 at 4:30 pm
Mike Smith has destroyed this entire team. Bad coaching that is not identified as bad coaching is viewed as poor player evaluation and leads to those players getting cut, benched, traded…..whatever. Licht is the man and had been awesome in my opinion. Get coaches that can develops and stop putting it on Licht. The only thing he has done wrong is retained the worst defensive coach in the league for a third season in a row
May 6th, 2018 at 6:22 pm
Five games out of third in your fourth year.
Bottom tier is generous.
Anything else is feel goodie drivel.
May 7th, 2018 at 11:11 am
If a GM can get 4 starters per year in the draft, he is a top tier GM in this league. Only time will tell how Licht will be measured, but he’s looking pretty good from where I sit, minus the Aguayo fiasco.