Two Massive Holes; Two Premium Picks
April 22nd, 2018
GM Jason Licht
Perhaps general manager Jason Licht will keep things simple for a change.
It hasn’t been that way for the Buccaneers in the last two drafts.
Last year, the Bucs entered the NFL Draft with gargantuan needs at running back and defensive end. But Licht didn’t go there, unless you count the report of frantic calls to trade up for Dalvin Cook and selecting Jeremy “Snoop Dog McPlaybook” McNichols in Round 5.
Two years ago, Licht kept Bucs fans biting their nails trading back in the first round and grabbing Vernon Hargreaves before scoring Noah Spence in Round 2 and trading up minutes later for kicker Roberto Aguayo.
Licht has only been a traditional selector in one of his four drafts; In 2015, he had needs and addressed them boldly and confidently, and the rest is history. The draft was stellar.
Back in 2014, clearly influenced by Lovie Smith, Licht passed on drafting a quarterback despite a desperate need. The Bucs locked down Mike Evans in Round 1, but used premium second- and third-round picks on Austin Seferian-Jenkins (they didn’t need a tight end) and Charles Sims.
Fast-forward to this week, will Licht stay simple and play the draft from a need perspective?
The Bucs are desperate for a talented cornerback in a bad, bad way. The need is very strong at running back, as well.
The Bucs have two picks in the first three rounds and could easily fill those needs.
Will it be that simple?
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April 22nd, 2018 at 11:29 am
Should it be that simple? Yes. Will it be? No.
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:30 am
my missive…two massive holes….CB & Safety…..in the draft…the rest was patched up in spring FA…..RB..sorry but a patch work veteran FA and late draft pick is what I am ordering Thursday and Friday……gotta close the back door….
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:38 am
Interesting perspective EGO. I guess what’s more important RB or safety? We all know we need CB but what comes next? Guess we will find out.
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:38 am
“Saygone” Barkley by any means!!!
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:39 am
I would say Oline is a pretty big need as well as DE. JPP goes down you are right back to square, I’m not sold that Curry is going to be much better than Ayers was.
Oline Dotson just had MCL surgery. Market gets hurt often, those are two potential injuries we could see mid season. Why Dotson waited until recently to have surgery I don’t know!!!
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:40 am
The biggest thing we need to do is trade back with Buffalo. Nelson is the only one of the “Big 3” that might make it to us, and picking up an extra 1st would alleviate some pressure. We have 3 big needs, Cb, Rb, SS. If we can trade back we can still probably get Derwin or Ward at 12. Or Josh Jackson @22. Then take our Rb (Ronald Jones) in the 2nd.
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:41 am
Bucemup
Dotson just had a knee scope not mcl surgery. He will be ready for TC.
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:45 am
If they trade down, they may get more depth at multiple positions, not just positions of need.
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:48 am
Marpet has only bin injured a few times. So I wouldn’t label him injury prone yet
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:48 am
Alpha Buc fan…your screen name is marginally similar to mine… Joe!…tough…because I’ve always favored RB’s…my disciplined approach would be that this team is not “there yet”….so go foundation….the back door is swinging in the breeze….of course I’ll be happy this time next week as will everyone after having time to adjust to Licht’s vision…Go Buc’s…
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:51 am
Lol. Sorry Joe but I had to laugh at your article title. One “r” away from being a solid title for a porno.
Anyway… We have more than 2 massive holes to fill on this roster. Our right tackle is below average, he is currently injured and our QB is getting injured and hit far too often. We also need a starting guard, running, safety and corner. I really hope we can trade down and we don’t need to draft a QB at #7.
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:54 am
I feel like the bucs don’t need to use a high pick on a RB
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:54 am
Call me skeptical about any safety changing us dramatically. We just spent a high pick last year on safety and he’s developing nicely.
But the position has changed dramatically in the past decade thanks to the rules around safety. Head hunters who were great players and were a major presence in the mind of all receivers are no longer successful in this league as we found out with Goldson. Head hunters in 2018 are penalty machines.
What we need is a smart player who can cover up defensive backfield mistakes.
I believe those are a LOT easier to find in later rounds than the so called ease of finding RB’s later.
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:54 am
Nearly every Mock Draft I have seen has us going defensive backs/safety.
But some will scream “what about the pass rush”!
Improved pass coverage will improve the pass rush, duh.
Personally, I will be glad when this whole draft stuff is over and done. IMHO, the NFL has dragged this on for way too long.
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:56 am
I also thought same thing with title of article lol.. Id say Lg and Rb as our two major holes IMO with Cb not far behind. So Nelson the Rb in round 2 would be a GREAT start to the draft.
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:56 am
@BetterBuccinBelieveit……..I don’t understand this excerpt from one of your comments yesterday
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But yet @SB knows that “Bama” isn’t where it’s at, nor is Saquon Barkley the “top of the RB class”. Heck no, right, they must both be wrong. Uh, huh. 🙂
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I said that I wasn’t a Bama guy but I wouldn’t cry if we drafted Fitzpatrick and I have never even mentioned Barkley here because I know he will be gone by 7.
#confused.
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:57 am
I just can’t imagine a scenario where a trade down is possible. The teams ( in order ) immediately following the Bucs are Chicago, SF and Oakland. None of those teams need a QB either. Why wouldn’t a team simply trade up with any of them for less compensation? Stranger things have happened I suppose. Pick # 5…which belongs to Denver as they wisely let The Ostrich Osweiler play out the season’s final games…is where the action is at. That pick will either get a draft haul in a trade or a stud like Barkley.
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:57 am
#ModerationNation
April 22nd, 2018 at 11:58 am
One could argue that with the below average starter Sweezy still not being medically cleared to practice or play, and the recent injury and surgery with Dotson, that Oline is just as big a need as RB or CB.
Plus, if we are fortunate enough to have Nelson fall in our laps, his addition would serve to improve any RB that lines up behind or next to Jameis this season and for the foreseeable future.
April 22nd, 2018 at 12:01 pm
A CB & a Safety 1 &2…either order…everything will fall into place..second half of 2019…folks as hungry as we are…this roster is till on 1/2 rations….2019 FA signing and draft…by October 2019 the Buc’s will be kicking AZZZZZ…
April 22nd, 2018 at 12:02 pm
More moderation with nary a curse word in it.
SMH
April 22nd, 2018 at 12:11 pm
SB
Understand your frustration but I’ve come to accept it as part of the game. Kind of like all the freaking TV timeouts during games.
I probably get a couple of posts each day held up for awhile in moderation. I shall say in my experience Joe and the interns are good about checking the penalty box and clear it out pretty quickly if it’s just something the computer nanny has discovered.
I post on a Washington Post blog and their filter is far worse. Everyday regulars are trying to figure out which word they typed that agitated the computer nanny.
I get we are making progress on “Artificial Intelligence” but the computers are not yet as smart as humans. They are faster and can do calculations but actually figuring things out…
April 22nd, 2018 at 12:28 pm
I know SPBF and Joe actually has gotten better at monitoring as I see my comment has already posted. It just gets frustrating when you haven’t typed a bad word or attacked the Joes or another poster in any way. Over the years I have become a calmer poster. After you have been banned so many times you become a good boy. lol. 🙂
April 22nd, 2018 at 12:29 pm
Defense
April 22nd, 2018 at 12:30 pm
If we draft a guard (Nelson) and get a running back (Chubb, Michel, Jones or Guice) in the first 2 rounds I’ll be happy. We can find DBs inthe later rounds
April 22nd, 2018 at 12:32 pm
@StPeteBucsFan
Really????? I have seen people complain about it, but I always though they were constantly jumping on different networks!!!!!! I know I asked Joe for Full Carte Blanche years ago!!!!!!
Wait, there was one time, and it was back when the JW3 investigation news broke, and I said that the only facts we have now is that Our QB is clearly no “H0M0” !!!!!!!!! I think that was the only time!!!!!!
GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 22nd, 2018 at 12:33 pm
SB welcome to the constant monitoring club……CMC
As for the draft needs….
I’d like to see us fill them with OG, RB & CB in that order….but sometimes you have to let the players come to you…..it could be CB, OG, RB
April 22nd, 2018 at 12:36 pm
Light 2 massive holes, is that some kind of joke. We are light a running back, 2 O Line, a safety, 2 corners and potentially a line backer. Not to mention a slew of back up players and a pass rusher.
April 22nd, 2018 at 12:39 pm
Safety & CB 1&2 either order….the Defense has to pull up their pants
April 22nd, 2018 at 12:41 pm
@AlteredEgo
You sure are concerned about keeping that “back door closed”
Is there something you’re not telling us ?
#Altered”B”hole
April 22nd, 2018 at 12:49 pm
Just copied this off of MSN news. I hope they are right.
The two best players in the draft fall out of the top five
This year’s draft class has a pair of prospects who are equally deserving of the “best overall player” title: Penn State running back Saquon Barkley and Notre Dame guard Quenton Nelson. But with a loaded quarterback class, and plenty of QB-needy teams picking early, don’t be surprised if these studs get pushed to the back burner due to position value. With teams like the Indianapolis Colts and Tampa Bay Buccaneers set at quarterback but needing impact players at these positions, the overlooking of these top players could be their gain, with instant All-Pro talents falling into their lap.
I know it is just an opinion but as I am of the “Big 3 or trade down” crowd I am grasping for anything. lol
April 22nd, 2018 at 12:52 pm
BucEmUp, Meniscus tears are extremely common knee injuries. With proper diagnosis, treatment, and rehabilitation, patients often return to their pre-injury abilities. Different than the so called mcl injury you clam he had surgery for. That being said, are biggest needs are still at DB and RB.
April 22nd, 2018 at 12:54 pm
He will trade up for someone who he didn’t need to trade up for at some stage
April 22nd, 2018 at 1:08 pm
top 2 needs on this team: CB and Safety, IMO
April 22nd, 2018 at 1:18 pm
Joe Says:
It’s never that simple unless you completely abandon the concept of value. GMs who take the 20th best player in a draft because of need when they’re sitting at #7 end up fired.
Assuming Barkley is gone, are any of the remaining RBs worthy of going that high? Nope, not even close, if all the mock drafting is an indicator of anything.
So, at #7 we’re looking at our choice of CB, probably. Suppose they just don’t want to go with Ward because he’s short and has short arms, or something else in his game. He’s the only guy projected anywhere near the top 10. Reaching for one of the remaining CBs would be foeking stupid.
So, is Joe suggesting we ignore Quenton Nelson because he’s not need 1a or 1b? Would Joe rather pick an inferior player than one who will probably line up in the Pro Bowl for 10 years?
“Will it be that simple?” No, it never is. And that’s not a Bucs thing or a Licht thing. It’s an NFL GM thing. Their job is to get value with those picks, not just reach for need. Draft picks are investments. As a GM, if you want to always target needs in order of priority while still getting value, you learn the art of the trade down.
April 22nd, 2018 at 1:26 pm
@Joe … “Last year, the Bucs entered the NFL Draft with gargantuan needs at running back and defensive end.” And last year we filled NEITHER. Had we gone that direction (drafting to fill a NEED), perhaps our record might’ve been better than 5-11? I agree that OJ was the BPA when we picked at #19, BUT 18 other teams passed because TE wasn’t their top priority. But hey, Jason Licht has been doing a bang-up job. Our 4-year 22-42 record has nothing to do with him. We’ve still got Scapegoat Smitty hitched to the whipping post.
I agree wholeheartedly Joe that “The Bucs are desperate for a talented cornerback in a bad, bad way. The need is very strong at running back, as well.” Can just about guarantee though that if Barkley’s gone but Nelson’s there, Licht will take Nelson over a CB or any other RB. Do think though that he’ll grad a RB in the 2nd Rnd.
April 22nd, 2018 at 1:28 pm
@SB…
With regard to your “confused” post above to me, when you referred to Nelson (on the Minkah to Tampa thread) as a generational talent–which he likely is–then referred to a great O lineman with a good RB, I was basically referring to Barkley as the single greatest example of a “generational” talent according to draft pundits. Then in the same vein, why mess around with Nelson and (maybe) acquiring a “good” RB (only Michel really since Guice is a ..well punk, Chubb’s knee, Penny’s joke of lack of conference difficulty and plodding nature, Ronald Jones II injury prone self…on and on)…WHEN anyone drafting could use their determination to go after Saquon?!
Also, “definitely not a Bama guy” thing…c’mon, 22 first round picks in 1st round since 2009. Next closest 14 picks. Irrespective of what college team we “like” to watch, Alabama is nothing short of a football factory! Saban is easily the best football mind by a landslide in the college game. Indisputable. So..when it comes to the DRAFT, it’s Bama routinely …then everyone else. That’s all.
Go Bucs!
April 22nd, 2018 at 1:42 pm
RB and CB or CB and RB…it is a strong class of RBs and CBs seems obvious….
April 22nd, 2018 at 2:00 pm
I have come to be happy with anyone we pick James Nelson Ward Minkah I think it comes down to those 4 I mean that’s considering Barkley an Chubb are gone
April 22nd, 2018 at 2:27 pm
As long as we get a guy that produced on a high level in college at Running Back and D-Line then I’m okay, we could get corner round 2-3 if need be though I’d rather make sure our D-Line is actually good this year, cause if they can get consistent pressure then our secondary will improve as a result too.
April 22nd, 2018 at 2:29 pm
Well this should be easy for round one Joe….which is greater need and difference maker at the moment on this squad….a running back or an cornerback? We currently do have a running back on the team that can carry the load and put fear in an offense but on the other side Vernon Hargreaves could have a bounce back year for all we know unlike the running back committee all have SEASONS under their belts and the best of the bunch is IMO Jacquizz and he’s not a #1 back.
April 22nd, 2018 at 2:29 pm
Please, please remember…..good teams are built by taking the highest player available, not the 20th!!!!! You won’t get better taking the lesser player because of need!!!! Free agency and trades are available for that…..that’s why I wonder why we haven’t acquired a CB via those options. That scares me a lot!!
April 22nd, 2018 at 2:41 pm
Some Best Young Running Backs – Come for Garbage Conferences
• (2017) Rnd: 3 | Pick: 86 | Kareem Hunt | Conferences: MAC
• (2016) Rnd:5 | Pick: 150 | Jordan Howard | Conferences: CUSA/Big 10
• (2015) Rnd:5 | Pick:149 | Jay Ajayi | Conferences: MWC
• (2015) Rnd:3 | Pick: 86 | David Johnson | Conferences: MVC
Note: Jordan Howard played his 1st two season in CUSA.
Before spending his final in the Big-10
April 22nd, 2018 at 2:46 pm
Licht picks the best player available. He said it again last week in his press conference. I am not sure why this is so hard to understand.
April 22nd, 2018 at 3:14 pm
@webster….
Sir…did it ever occur to you that everyone watches Licht’s press conferences?? GM’s, fans, media, etc, etc. And vice versa. Do you honestly think that Licht is going to stand there a WEEK BEFORE THE DRAFT and tell you or anyone EXACTLY what he’s going to do…@webster??!
Not to mention, like @Joe said, and even Licht himself said in that presser, “it’s the lying time of year”.
Gotta think things through before writing stuff….or at least that.
Go Bucs!
April 22nd, 2018 at 3:28 pm
It was the right call. I remember you, the Commish, Dick Vitale, everyone it seemed wanted Johnny Manziel.
Thankfully Lovie and Licht paid no mind to any of you.
April 22nd, 2018 at 3:32 pm
Hoover923
– you summed up the problem very well.
If Barkley is off the board, no RB rated anywhere near 7 th pick.- only CB rated that high, Ward, will be a disaster. Ward is to too frailly built to be physical with recievers at the line of scrimmage. The big 6’5” NFC south WRs will knock him on his butt every single time.
So now you have Hargreaves( too short, to slow) and Ward(too weak) both lined up 10 yards off the ball.
Soooo- who do you draft. Mikah Fitzpatrick will turn out to be a good Strong safety. Too rigid in his backpedal transition to play CB of FS in the NFL.
Dewin James will be a fantastic strong safety.
Meybe Nelson falls to Bucs. Great player, but bad value for a guard at 7
Either way- chances are we still need a RB and A CB after round one.
Plenty of great ones available in 2nd round.
But no 3rd
4th round? Not getting a premium guy
I think it will be a tough draft
April 22nd, 2018 at 3:36 pm
@ betterbuc
Obviously it has not occured to you that licht picking the best player according to their board does not tell anyone who they are going to pick. Again, licht has done it EVERY year. The bucs did not have a qb on their board higher than evans and that is why evans was picked. Licht said f@$k the “biggest” need and drafted the best player when many like joe had the bucs picking johnny football. Licht even touched on that draft in his presser last week. Licht had a higher grade on godwin than any running back that was availble at the time so he picked godwin eventhough rb was a bigger need. If you or any other buc fan has not realized the bucs draft strategy over the past four years, then you are not paying attention.
April 22nd, 2018 at 3:42 pm
@ betterbuc
Oj howard is on this team because he was the highest rated player on their board and no running back ie cook or defensive end ie taco charleton was at the time of the 19th pick. Best player available. I am sorry you missed that.
April 22nd, 2018 at 4:31 pm
Hopefully this scenario plays out…
7 TB Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
38 TB Sony Michel, RB, Georgia
April 22nd, 2018 at 4:33 pm
7 TB Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
38 TB Sony Michel, RB, Georgia
102 TB (f/NYG) Armani Watts, S, Texas A&M
144 TB Kalen Ballage, RB, Arizona State
April 22nd, 2018 at 4:33 pm
@Webster…
I could argue with you’re retarded logic on the first post with Evans, that Johnny Football retarded ishh…, etc, etc….and of course we took Evans. We already had Doug and he was still a viable option at RB in 2014.
ANYWAY….I’m talking about THIS YEAR’s draft, and the GAPING hole at RB. Licht is not going to stand up at his presser, which for WHATEVER REASON you seem to want to put so much stock in for (blanks) sake?! Licht isn’t going to stand up there and say “I’m trading up for Saquon on the clock by doing XYZ”…..
Just MAKE SURE you’re press-conference-loving self is here and available come Thursday night around 9-10pm or so….cuz I surely will be, and I’m pretty sure a lot of other Buc faithful will be too!
Go Bucs!
April 22nd, 2018 at 4:37 pm
Capt Tim,
I understand what you’re saying but there’s a huge grey area that you’re not expressly defining . You are by default but that’s not the same thing. Because the approach you have defaulted to has been proven, historically, to deliver wildly different results for a single player and a single team. Since there is multiple players and teams the equation begins to get complicated quickly and the results are less likely to be defined with any sort of precision.
What the heck am I referring to, simple. Value!
It’s amazing to see how many fans will passionately support a single draft equation without understanding what that equation is designed to for. Watching how quickly and easy it is to dismiss an equation when looking at prior drafts should be a flashing red light that at the least should get people to rethinking.
Seldom does that happen
April 22nd, 2018 at 4:44 pm
@LUVMYBUCS
I view Penny as my RB2 behind Barkley.
I’m holding out hope for Nelson at 7, then trading down into the mid-late section of the 2nd for Penny.
April 22nd, 2018 at 4:49 pm
Webster,
You continue to drop bombs from the perimeter! Nice.
If there is one point I may suggest. If there is a discussion on The best available player equation vs value relative to #selection , you can go full court bomb with dropping the possibility of a negative or zero value. It’s the wmd of mathematics.
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:03 pm
Webster:
So you are saying the Bucs should draft a quarterback at No. 7 if Licht has the guy rated high?
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:04 pm
God bless america!
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:08 pm
No quarterback for the Bucs.we have one LMAO!marinebuc,we have a quarterback!
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:09 pm
God bless Jack Daniels!!
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:11 pm
LOL…
🙂
Everyone just be here from…well hell, ALL DAY on Thursday, since Thursday will likely determine pretty much if not all of the Bucs draft. I will be prepared to “take it”, but man…..I’m sure gonna give it when things play out like THIS guy says, so don’t run and hide everyone. Cause I’m sure you all (well many of a certain select someones) will!!
Go Bucs!
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:12 pm
@Joe
Please don’t break out that tired, nonsensical argument again this year.
Best player available is specific to the needs a team has. Jason Licht has already blatantly stated that no one in this organization has any intentions of replacing Jameis. Therefore there’s no way Licht would have a QB in this years class above one of our several positions of need.
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:16 pm
Duke says:
“… without understanding what that equation is designed to for.”
Hmmm. Got it, thanks!
Go Bucs! Go Bold! Go Barkley! Go Primetime!
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:18 pm
You are correct. But Joe — being a literate person — takes things literally. If someone pushes “best player available” that means you draft a guy come hell or high water what position he plays based only on a team’s grading of him.
General managers who do that are begging to get run off.
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:18 pm
So if we go RB and CB in rounds 1 and 2… then who exactly is going to play RT and OG??
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:19 pm
But that’s not what best player available actually implies…
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:20 pm
@John…
LMAO…you are the coolest!
Go Bucs!
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:23 pm
Blake:
“Best player available” means just that: the best player available, unless you qualify it. That’s like calling something a bowl of strawberry ice cream then saying, “But I meant a chocolate chip ice cream cone.” Then call it what it is, a chocolate chip ice cream cone.
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:26 pm
BetterBuccinBelieveIt Says:
April 22nd, 2018 at 1:28 pm
@SB…
With regard to your “confused” post above to me, when you referred to Nelson (on the Minkah to Tampa thread) as a generational talent–which he likely is–then referred to a great O lineman with a good RB,
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No sir. I referred to a “Great OL making an average RB look good” and as for “Definitely not a Bama guy” means I am not a “Fan” of Bama. Doesn’t mean that I am not completely aware that they get more 5star recruits year in and year out than almost any other school. As for Barkley I would Love to have him. Just not willing to give anything up to move out of the 7 spot to get him. Outside of a trade scenario where DJax is traded to get him.
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:28 pm
JBF = ModerationNation! 🙂
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:29 pm
BeTTERBUCCINBELIEVEIT,🖒🖒🖒
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:30 pm
I guess you’re right from an overly simplistic, linguistic based argument. Although I would say your analogy needs a lot of work.
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:30 pm
I’m in moderation again!smart move joe!!God loves you!
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:32 pm
Joe,are you an undercover cop?They put me in moderation a lot to!!
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:50 pm
Edit…try this my friend
John meeks Says:
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:30 pm
I’m in moderation again!smart move joe!!Rachel loves you!
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:57 pm
LOL ^^^^
April 22nd, 2018 at 5:58 pm
AlteredEgo,I don’t edit anything when the Jack Daniels bottle opens up all by itself!must have been God sent!never seen a bottle open by itself or taste so good!God loves me to!
April 22nd, 2018 at 6:03 pm
Three things you don’t loan out!your whiskey,lawnmower,or your wife cause they all three will come back tore up!
April 22nd, 2018 at 6:47 pm
Joe
OG is a bigger hole right now than RB Joe. Sweezy has been on IR twice in the past two years and has still not been cleared to workout. Demar Dotson is not going to be able to return till at least training camp. I am hoping soo much that Nelson is there at 7 or we can scoop Hernandez in the second. Either way I’m taking one of them before a RB not named Barkley.
April 22nd, 2018 at 6:59 pm
G,rb and cb!!!!! Do it!!!!!
April 22nd, 2018 at 7:24 pm
Betterbuckenbelieve your really think we are trading up in a quarterback heavy draft. Two teams ahead of us colts and Broncos already said they want to trade down and buffalo is rumored to give up both of there first round picks and a second or third. So that means we would give up are second and 5th this year and next years first to move a couple of spots to get a runningback. It’s not happening. Just don’t hide Thursday night when all of your mindless nonsense you have been spewing for the last month doesn’t happen. And just to be safe what year,make,model,and color vehicle do you drive so I can put an apb out on all local bridges for you. Just be ready to be a man an admit you were wrong Thursday to your two biggest fanclub members Joey poppems and me. I hope he falls to us at 7 but other than that there is no way I repeat no way we trade up for him.
April 22nd, 2018 at 7:28 pm
^^^^^^^^Thats is funny^^^^^^^^^
I do think it will be hard to trade up or down unless you include McCoy is some crazy trade to a playoff team.
April 22nd, 2018 at 8:10 pm
Duke- good points sir. All senarios being shown now- will change widly with a trade or two.
Unbelievable. Right tackle will be played by the man who played Right tackle the last few games of the season
Caleb Benenoch
Right Guard will be played by our starting tight guard 14 games last year
JR Sweezy
The Bucs obviously felt that Center was our biggest problem.
They signed Jensen
Also unhappy with Kevin Pamphile at LG
Ali Marpet is finally moved to his appropriate position.
LG
Marpet played LT in college. Left Guard is where he should have started in every game of his pro career.
Although we posters may think the line needs help, Buc Management may be perfectly happy with those guys as starters
April 22nd, 2018 at 9:11 pm
Don’t forget the hole in licht’s beer mug
April 22nd, 2018 at 9:30 pm
Licht def tends to draft for need !!
April 22nd, 2018 at 10:41 pm
We wouldn’t need so much help on defense if we had a decent DC. Regardless of what we get, this team is not coached well enough on defense to make any kind of run at the playoffs.
In other words, we will have a new coach next year, so I hope we get the best available player not the best fit, because the next coaching staff coming in may not see those players fitting in the same way.
April 23rd, 2018 at 1:48 am
“article title…One “r” away from being a solid title for a porno.”
That’s hilarious Marine Buc
April 23rd, 2018 at 9:41 am
The Bucs can go a lot of different ways, and i expect they have contingency plans for about 300 different scenarios. I would love to see the Bucs draft Nelson at 7, and solidify the O-Line. That will pay dividends now and in the future by keeping Winston upright and giving a strong between the tackles RB a chance to move the chains effectively by winning at the line of scrimmage. I think a CB at the top of round 2 would be great value, and if not, a top RB should still be available. In the 3rd, I fully expect Licht to either move up from the 4th round or trade a future 2nd rounder and a late pick this year to get into the 3rd.
April 23rd, 2018 at 10:43 am
Fitzpatrick
2 chubb
4thLevi wallace
April 23rd, 2018 at 10:50 am
@ betterbuc
You are totally confused. In 2014 the bucs “biggest need” was qb. Yes joe and many others had jonny football as the pick, but licht did not view him, bridgewater, carr etc as a better player than evans. Ie best player available and not biggest need. Why are you bringing up martin in 2014? Again you are confused. When i brought running back, that was in reference to LAST year’s draft when running back or defensive end were supposedly the “biggest need.” Well with the likes of dalvin cook or taco charelton on the board, the bucs select OJ Howard!!!! BPA!!!!
@ Joe
First of all, the bucs would not have any of these qbs rated high. Only desperate teams would have these qbs rated high. You should be familiar with that because you were desperate for manziel or bridgewater while the bucs loved evans. Btw…that draft licht was texted by his brother in law asking who are you going to take? Manziel, carr, bridgewater? Licht’s response.. Winston
April 23rd, 2018 at 1:03 pm
Now don’t tell me that previously Licht just took the highest player on his board that is the top needs of his team. He has said many times he believes in drafting BPA and not for needs because teams that draft just for needs don’t fare as well. OK, last year our two top needs were RB and DE. But he went with a BPA TE which was not a need for us. So he goes pure BPA without the first regard of what we really need. What a smart GM would have done is call every team that needed a TE and work out a good deal to draft down and use their first pick for whichever top need was higher on his board and if it was a RB like Cook take him, then on the next pick take the highest ranked DE on the board, because from the East West Shrine Game that year he knew in a much lower pick he could get a 6’5” TE from Canada who also can both block and catch passes (and he also took him late in the draft last year). It is Licht and his pure BPA picking strategy that has kept us in the cellar for so long and produced poor OL and a DL that couldn’t stop runs nor get to the passer. On the OL that is what allowed our QB to injure his shoulder and have to run around for his life last year resulting in interceptions and fumbles. A 20th ranking by NFL.com of Licht was way too generous.