Rounds 4 Through 7 Chatter
April 28th, 2018
Have at it, Bucs fans.
The Bucs own picks today in Rounds 4, 5 & 6, three total — for now.
Bang it here all day. Play nice!
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Have at it, Bucs fans.
The Bucs own picks today in Rounds 4, 5 & 6, three total — for now.
Bang it here all day. Play nice!
April 28th, 2018 at 10:36 am
PLEEEEEEEAAAAAAAASE if Josh Sweat is there at #117, take a shot on him Licht.
April 28th, 2018 at 10:37 am
Should have called it “Day 3 Draft Chatter” 😉
April 28th, 2018 at 10:45 am
My updated WISHLIST Updated:
BUCS PICKS
Round 1 · Pick 12 (12) DT Vita Vea
Round 2 · Pick 6 (38) RB Ronald Jones, II
Round 2 · Pick 21 (53) CB M.J. Stewart
Round 2 · Pick 31 (63) CB Carlton Davis
Round 3 – Pick 30 (94) G Alex Cappa
Round 4· Pick 17 (117)
Round 5 · Pick 7 (144)
Round 6 · Pick 28 (202)
PLAYERS
– – – – DE Bradley Chubb BRONCOS
– – – – DE Marcus Davenport SAINTS
– – – – DE Harold Landry * RAIDERS
– – – – DE Sam Hubbard * BENGALS
• DE Ogbonnia Okoronkwo
• DE Marcell Frazier
• • DT Vita Vea BUCCANEERS!
– – – – DT Da’Ron Payne REDSKINS
– – – – DT/DE Breeland Speaks CHIEFS
– – – – DT B.J. Hill GIANTS
– – – – CB Isaiah Oliver * FALCONS
• CB Christian Campbell *
– – – – CB Josh Jackson PACKERS
• CB Greg Stroman (returner)
• • CB CARLTON DAVIS BUCCANEERS!
– – – – S Derwin James CHARGERS
– – – – S Minkah Fitzpatrick DOLPHINS
– – – – S Justin Reid TEXANS
• S Jessie Bates
– – – – S Tarvarius Moore 49ers
– – – – LB Leighton Vander COWBOYS
– – – – LB Rashad Evans TITANS
• LB Tegray Scales
• LB Shaquem Griffin
– – – – QB Mason Rudolph STEELERS
• QB Logan Woodside
– – – – C Billy Price BENGALS
– – – – OG Nelson Quenton COLTS
– – – – OG Will Hernandez GIANTS
– – – – OG Braden Smith COLTS
• OG Tony Adams
– – – – OT Mike McGlinchey 49ERS
– – – – OT Orlando Brown RAVENS
• OT Desmond Harrison, late round
– – – – RB Saquon Barkley GIANTS
– – – – RB Rashaad Penny SEAHAWKS
– – – – RB Derrius Guice REDSKINS
• RB Dimitri Flowers
• RB Nyheim Hines
• RB Phillip Lindsay
• RB Akrum Wadley
• • RB Ronald Jones, II BUCCANEERS!
– – – – RB Nick Chubb BROWNS
– – – – RB Kerryon Johnson LIONS
– – – – RB Royce Freeman BRONCOS
– – – – WR D.J. Moore PANTHERS
– – – – WR Christian Kirk CARDINALS
• WR Equanimeous St. Brown
– – – – WR Tre’quan Smith SAINTS
– – – – TE Hayden Hurst RAVENS
April 28th, 2018 at 10:51 am
Equanimeous St Brown can be the DJAX replacement. 2nd round talent.
April 28th, 2018 at 10:52 am
CHRIS GODWIN IS DJAX REPLACEMENT. We don’t need to draft any receivers
April 28th, 2018 at 10:55 am
Okoronkwo would be another good depth pick for LB or 3rd down rotational DE.
April 28th, 2018 at 10:55 am
Thanks for laying it out for us Joe; saved me a about an hour figuring it out myself. So far I think this is shaping up to be the best draft for the Bucs in years. My wife thinks I’m a genius because when NYG and DEN didn’t pick a QB early, I said “Awescome! Watch the Bucs move down and clean up on picks.” She was like “Wow, how did you know.” I was elated they got 2nd rounders! Of course, the dialog on Joe Bucs Fan gets the knoggin working. So, thanks! I loved that we hit so many needs in two rounds…now today we can focus on depth, hopefully at OL and LB.
April 28th, 2018 at 11:10 am
Some of the guys I am watching for in the later rounds:
FS Armani Watts
FS Troy Apke
LB Shaquem Griffin
DE Josh Sweat
DE Jay Holmes
DE Duke Ejiofor
DE Tyquan Lewis
DE Ade Aruna
SS Marcus Allen
RB Nyhiem Hines
RB John Kelly
OC Scott Quessenberry
WR Desean Hamilton
WR Antonio Callaway
WR Justin Watson
CB Kevin Tolliver
CB Quenton Meeks
CB Christian Campbell
April 28th, 2018 at 11:14 am
I’m coming down to Tampa tmrw tic go skydiving, any recommendations for a good steak house or a nice place with a great view??
Go Bucs!
April 28th, 2018 at 11:15 am
Pair Evans with his former teammate in Watts. Griffin after that. Hopefully Lawler to finish it out
I’d be good with that
Go Bucs
#NOexcuses2018
April 28th, 2018 at 11:21 am
The Vita Vea pick is really growing on me, if he is who they think he is our d-line could be scary for the first time in a while. I’m indifferent on the RB, would’ve rather had Guice but lets see what this guy can do. Really do not like either of the corners at all. Stewart probably can’t play outside so we spent that high a pick on a slot corner when we could have given the former 11th overall pick to revive his career there. Davis has the length we need but the guy gets lost deep, he’ll fit in perfectly with the rest of our DBs! Would have rather had Isaiah Oliver (a tall corner who can start on the outside from day one, and will do so for our division rivals) than both of these guys. Would not shock me if they both bust. I like the guard a lot.
April 28th, 2018 at 11:21 am
If Shaquem Griffin or Danny Johnson are on the board when we pick in the 4th round I think we take one of them.
April 28th, 2018 at 11:25 am
Pa privateer
Tyquan Lewis got picked in the 2nd by the Colts.
I had him on my Bucs board in the 4th.
April 28th, 2018 at 11:26 am
I’m just gonna get this off my chest so I can be on this is how my draft would look:
Da’Ron Payne 1st
Harold Landry 2nd
Darius Guise 2nd
Nathan Shepard 2nd
Desmond Harrison 4th (not sure about this one)
Anthony Everett 4th
Bo Scarborough 5th
Joe Ostman 6th
April 28th, 2018 at 11:26 am
*so I can move on, this is how my draft would look
April 28th, 2018 at 11:27 am
Here is what I would like with our 3 picks.
A safety
A developmental Olineman
A RB or WR (Returner)
I would chose the S first as he would likely be the only player to make the team….and I wouldn’t mind packaging our 5th & 6th to move way up to pick him.
We will, as we do every year have plenty of UDFA and a couple of them usually make the team.
April 28th, 2018 at 11:29 am
IndyBucsFan,
Try Bern’s Steakhouse …the best in Tampa
April 28th, 2018 at 11:30 am
We need another big running back
April 28th, 2018 at 11:33 am
Our 5th and 6th together would get us a very late 4th round pick.
April 28th, 2018 at 11:34 am
Armani Watts!!!
April 28th, 2018 at 11:35 am
I also like RB Scarborough and another CB or S.
April 28th, 2018 at 11:41 am
@IndyBucsFan
Like Trench War said, Berns is the best of the best. But you will need to call and make a reservation. But make note, with one days notice on a Sunday, you’ll either have to go very early when they open at 5, or rather late around 9 o’clock.
Your other option is to go down there with no reservation and try to get seats at the Bar. You could get lucky and get seated within 30 minutes, or have to wait up to 3 hours.
Either way, they have the best dry aged steak in the State, and their expansive selection of Wine rivals any Steak House in the world. So it’ll be worth it to go no question.
April 28th, 2018 at 11:41 am
@LuveMyBucs
As a fellow Texan I would support this pick. IMO him and Evans are the same type player who can play either Safety spot on the field.
April 28th, 2018 at 11:43 am
We already have a 4th……we can give up a 6th to move up again
April 28th, 2018 at 11:43 am
O lineman and safety
April 28th, 2018 at 11:44 am
We need good players….not a bunch of prospects…..no more CBs looking to make them Safeties……draft a S.
April 28th, 2018 at 11:44 am
@Stanglassman
Thanks, I didn’t see that. In my defense the GF and I went to see Avengers Infinity War last night just after the Bucs drafted RB Jones
I too had DE Lewis ranked in the 4th.
I really think FS Armani Watts will be the pick if he is there at 117, but then again I had no idea we would take a DII OG in the 3rd.
April 28th, 2018 at 11:45 am
That’s what I meant Armani watt idk who Anthony Everett even is. Still early lol
April 28th, 2018 at 11:54 am
I searched players who had WOs or PVs with Bucs still undrafted – found S Armani Watts, RB Nyheim Hines and DE Justin Lawler. Also know from his pre-draft presser Jason Licht likes well-prepared Penn State players, SS Marcus Allen is still undrafted. I personally like SS Dane Cruikshank/Arizona but have no knowledge of any scouting by the Bucs.
April 28th, 2018 at 11:56 am
I’d like to see josh sweat
Either one of both of the CB Campbell and the WR from penn state and a safety would be one of the Bucs best drafts on paper in years
April 28th, 2018 at 11:56 am
Good call Bucs Guy… really would like griffen if smitty can use him right and 7th round go get antonio callaway to be sp teams guy
April 28th, 2018 at 11:57 am
BRING ON THE PARROT!!!
April 28th, 2018 at 11:59 am
Offense
QB
• Kyle Lauletta | Richmond 6-2⅝ 222 4.81
PowerBacks
• Kalen Ballage Arizona St. 6-1½ 228 4.46
• John Kelly Tennessee 5-9⅞ 216 4.64
• Bo Scarbrough Alabama 6-1⅜ 228 4.52
• Lavon Coleman Washington 5-10¾ 215 4.65
Scatbacks
• Nyheim Hines North Carolina St. 5-8⅜ 198 4.38
• Jeff Wilson North Texas 5-11⅞ 208 4.57
• Mark Walton Miami (FL) 5-9⅝ 202 4.56
• Chase Edmonds Fordham 5-9⅛ 205 4.55
HB
• Jaylen Samuels North Carolina St. 5-11½ 225 4.54
TE
• Chris Herndon IV Miami (FL) 6-3¾ 253 4.80
• Tyler Conklin Central Michigan 6-3 254 4.80
• Ian Thomas Indiana 6-3⅝ 259 4.65
T
• Jamarco Jones Ohio St. 6-4 299 5.50
G
• Toby Weathersby L.S.U. 6-4⅜ 317 5.34
• Will Clapp L.S.U. 6-4½ 311 5.39
• Maea Teuhema vS.E Louisiana6-4¼315 5.20
• Austin Corbett Nevada 6-4⅜ 306 5.15
• Sam Jones Arizona St. 6-4⅝ 305 5.32
April 28th, 2018 at 12:05 pm
OG Austin Corbett went first in the 2nd round.
April 28th, 2018 at 12:06 pm
Bahama Breeze
April 28th, 2018 at 12:10 pm
Tampaaaaaaa!love this draft,now let’s keep it rollhlin!
April 28th, 2018 at 12:16 pm
@IndyBucsFan – Bern’s is world class. You won’t get a reservation but just go to the bar. They have tables. Worth it.
April 28th, 2018 at 12:20 pm
Nyheim Hines COLTS
April 28th, 2018 at 12:21 pm
Berns is very pricey though.
April 28th, 2018 at 12:22 pm
Shaq Griffin as a hybrid strong safety
April 28th, 2018 at 12:27 pm
Defense
DE
• Duke Ejiofor Wake Forest 6-3⅜ 264 4.85
• Ade Aruna Tulane 6-4⅝ 262 4.60
• Joe Ostman Central Michigan 6-2¼ 253 4.80
• Mike Love South Florida 6-3¼ 255 4.76
• Justin Lawler S.M.U. 6-3⅞ 264 5.02
LEO/SAM/OTTO
• Ogbonnia Okoronkwo Oklahoma 6-1⅝ 253 4.77
• Shaquem Griffin Central Florida 6-0⅜ 227 4.38
• Marquis Haynes Ole Miss 6-2⅜ 235 4.67
• Darius Jackson Jacksonville St. 6-2¼ 242 4.76
DT
• Tim Settle Virginia Tech 6-2¾ 329 5.37
• Trenton Thompson Georgia 6-2⅝ 288 5.06
• Maurice Hurst Michigan 6-1¼ 292 4.98
• P.J. Hall Sam Houston St. 6-0½ 308 4.73
NT
• Folorunso Fatukasi Connecticut 6-3¾ 318 5.29
• Kendrick Norton Miami (FL) 6-2⅞ 314 5.25
• Curtis Cothran Penn St. 6-4¾ 283 4.84
ILB
• Shaun Dion Hamilton Alabama 5-11⅝ 229 4.75
• Sione Teuhema Southeastern Louisiana 6-3⅛ 241 4.80
• Joel Lanning Iowa St. 6-1⅜ 238 4.74
CB
• Dane Cruikshank Arizona 6-1¼ 209 4.41
• Tony Brown Alabama 5-11⅞ 199 4.35
• Nick Nelson Wisconsin 5-10⅝ 200 4.52
• D.J. Reed Kansas St. 5-9⅛ 188 4.51
• Arrion Springs Oregon 5-10½ 208 4.46
S
• Armani Watts Texas A&M 5-10½ 202 4.64
• Siran Neal Jacksonville St. 6-0 206 4.56
• Troy Apke Penn St. 6-1¼ 200 4.34
• Jordan Whitehead Pittsburgh 5-10⅜ 198 4.59
• Godwin Igwebuike Northwestern 5-11⅜ 213 4.44
April 28th, 2018 at 12:32 pm
Crosby ol.knoll rb!tampaaa
April 28th, 2018 at 12:33 pm
Mybad
PJ Hall & Austin Corbett already drafted.
April 28th, 2018 at 12:39 pm
Need a big back…
April 28th, 2018 at 12:40 pm
Kalen Ballege and Bo Scarborough draft them both, sign Eric ried on a 1 yr deal
April 28th, 2018 at 12:42 pm
Ballage*
April 28th, 2018 at 12:44 pm
Eric Reid…Colon K…and then BOOM Super Bowl !!
April 28th, 2018 at 12:44 pm
DB depth please
April 28th, 2018 at 12:45 pm
RB depth please. lol
April 28th, 2018 at 12:45 pm
Any of these would be great!
DE Ogbonnia Okoronkwo
CB Christian Campbell
S Jessie Bates
LB Shaquem Griffin
OG Tony Adams
RB Dimitri Flowers
WR Equanimeous St. Brown
April 28th, 2018 at 12:47 pm
Ogbonnia de still sliding graded first round
April 28th, 2018 at 12:52 pm
Cmon
Take Shaq griffin
April 28th, 2018 at 12:53 pm
Josh Gordon should bevan excellent mentor for Antonio Callaway. I expect to see great character out of that combo!
April 28th, 2018 at 12:53 pm
Jordan Whitehead S
April 28th, 2018 at 12:55 pm
WR
• Steve Ishmael Syracuse 6-2 212 4.58
• Allen Lazard Iowa St. 6-4⅝ 227 4.55
• Marcell Ateman Oklahoma St. 6-4½ 216 4.62
• Marquez Valdes-Scantling South Florida 6-4 206 4.37
KR/WR
• Quadree Henderson
April 28th, 2018 at 12:55 pm
Where’s the parrot?
April 28th, 2018 at 12:56 pm
I doubt anyone gets picked that I know from this point on
April 28th, 2018 at 12:56 pm
That Parrot thing $ucked. Typical- all hype no delivery
April 28th, 2018 at 12:56 pm
There is the S I asked for…..thanks, Jason.
April 28th, 2018 at 12:56 pm
Browns have Cheech and Chong split wide
April 28th, 2018 at 12:56 pm
Ughhhhh, what the heck Licht?? Jordan Whitehead?? Damnnnn, take SHAQUEM GRIFFIN!! 😫😫😫😫😫😫
April 28th, 2018 at 12:56 pm
Not sure about that pick
April 28th, 2018 at 12:59 pm
Not a good sign the parrot wouldn’t say his name
April 28th, 2018 at 12:59 pm
Good pick!
April 28th, 2018 at 1:02 pm
He’s a dual threat on defense and offense.
April 28th, 2018 at 1:03 pm
Was really hoping for Shaw Griffen… damn oh well
April 28th, 2018 at 1:04 pm
Would trade back up and take Shaq Griffin
April 28th, 2018 at 1:05 pm
Man – our staff just simply has complete different valuations on DBs than most analysts.
Every pick gets a “meh” reaction.
I watched Whitehead play quite a bit this year – good at coverage but you don’t want him as the lats man between a barreling RB and the end zone. He’s depth most likely.
There were still some studs there. Was hoping for the FSU DE or the tackle from Oregon – guys who had starter potential. This has that “reach” feel.
Why not sign Eric Reid on the cheap and grab a talented guy that fell?
I know we all want to be extremely optimistic and wait and se – but all 3 DBs have serious talent red flags. And Joe has already mentioned HUNDREDS of TIMES that this coaching staff is not successful at coaching up DBs.
So… yeah.
Go BPA and build some trench depth in round 5.
FIX THE TRENCHES, FIX THE BUCS!!
April 28th, 2018 at 1:06 pm
You don’t want to see his scout report, lol.
Bucs staff must have seen something no one else did.
April 28th, 2018 at 1:06 pm
*Shaq
April 28th, 2018 at 1:08 pm
Really not that stoked in any of the DBs we’ve taken.
Hope they prove me wrong!
April 28th, 2018 at 1:10 pm
@UB with the Pass Rush I believe we will have next yr our DBs are gonna have a field day feasting on errant passes from under duress QBs
April 28th, 2018 at 1:27 pm
our 5th and 6th is fair value to move up right now to this 130
April 28th, 2018 at 1:38 pm
@SB I sure hope so man!
I actually like Carlton Davis. But Stewart and this guy both seem like projects. Not as big of a deal for a 4th rounder, but for a high pick in the 2nd round… I worry Licht tried to outsmart himself sometimes.
If we could somehow still snag Shaq Griffin and John Kelly I’d be stoked. Prob a pipe dream though. Getting on a plane so I have no idea if they’ve been picked picked already .
April 28th, 2018 at 1:38 pm
Alright (just woke up)….lets get Griffin please!
April 28th, 2018 at 1:43 pm
Griffin Is gonna get drafted sometime inthe 5th round I think.
April 28th, 2018 at 1:44 pm
Crap, Nick Nelson is gone…but Desmond Harrison and Ryan Nall are still there (5th and 6th rounders)
Still want Griffin though too.
April 28th, 2018 at 1:49 pm
Would like Desmond Harrison too!
April 28th, 2018 at 1:51 pm
We’re picking 7th next round….lucky #7, make it Griffin Mr Licht
April 28th, 2018 at 1:52 pm
Yeah, Desmond will be a great pick up to use as RT.
April 28th, 2018 at 1:56 pm
Griffin better be our 5th rounder if he’s there
April 28th, 2018 at 2:01 pm
There he goes…..Griffin, and with his brother…..so good to see.
April 28th, 2018 at 2:02 pm
Shaq Griffin goin to play with his bro in Seattle. 🙁
April 28th, 2018 at 2:02 pm
I knew Seattle would try & grab griffin so now the twins are playing together again…
April 28th, 2018 at 2:02 pm
OL, St Brown or Ejiofor.
April 28th, 2018 at 2:03 pm
We draft guys earlier then needed then trade up when we don’t have to.
Jason is the definition of average
April 28th, 2018 at 2:04 pm
Great value for a 5 or 6.
April 28th, 2018 at 2:04 pm
Bo
April 28th, 2018 at 2:04 pm
I’m totally bummed about Bucs not grabbing Griffin!!! UGHHHHHHHHHH 🙁
April 28th, 2018 at 2:05 pm
Man. I was worried Seattle would take there
Not sure bucs even had on their board. We missed out.
April 28th, 2018 at 2:05 pm
Happy for the brothers but the Bucs whiffed here, Shriners World HQ is on the causeway and we still need an edge rusher
April 28th, 2018 at 2:06 pm
Bo works too
April 28th, 2018 at 2:09 pm
WR Justin Watson 5th round
April 28th, 2018 at 2:09 pm
Justin Watson WR
April 28th, 2018 at 2:10 pm
Read some on him before the draft. Looks good.
April 28th, 2018 at 2:11 pm
Man, we could’ve trade this picks instead of drafting these players that aren’t going to make the team.
April 28th, 2018 at 2:12 pm
Okwronko and flowers both available, and we take a WR we dont need? Stupid waste of a pick!
April 28th, 2018 at 2:12 pm
We have two 6th’s right? Lets use them….go get Desmond Harrison. He wont be there in the 6th. Im surprised he’s made it this far.
April 28th, 2018 at 2:12 pm
So one pick left in the 6th. What position do we go for?
RB, OL, CB, DE or QB?
April 28th, 2018 at 2:14 pm
We need a WR. Bobo and Freddie? I don’t think so.
April 28th, 2018 at 2:15 pm
1 6th left
April 28th, 2018 at 2:18 pm
I like the pick. His combine 40 was horrible…but…
Ran a 4.4 forty and posted a 40″ vertical leap to wow teams at his pro day.
1,000 yard in each of the last 3 seasons.
THIS might be Jackson’s replacement. Godwin is a slot WR.
April 28th, 2018 at 2:19 pm
Only 1? crap….hmmmuse a 6th or 7th from next year to get him then.
We seriously need to start thinking about RT….even if we do get one more year out of Dotson.
April 28th, 2018 at 2:19 pm
Yeah, I like the pick being a WR….never know.
April 28th, 2018 at 2:20 pm
Greg Says
“Okwronko and flowers both available, and we take a WR we dont need?”
Actually, we did need another one. It’s a very good pick. A speedster.
April 28th, 2018 at 2:25 pm
No Bonzai, it’s a luxury pick, still need depth at DE, and Flowers can do it all out of the backfield.
April 28th, 2018 at 2:59 pm
if taking a receiver with that pick, why not get Tate instead tho
April 28th, 2018 at 3:30 pm
We are pick #202. I doubt Desmond is still there, but if so…..and we pass…
April 28th, 2018 at 3:33 pm
After watching every minute of the draft- Im friggin glad we dont have a 7th round pick!!
Its beenna great off season- both Free agents and Draft.
Its gonna take the rookies a couple years- but this defense wont be a joke anymore.
Licht is a keeper.
Good job. We will have a good team now!
April 28th, 2018 at 3:35 pm
There is a lot of good names on the broad that look like they will go undrafted, will be interesting to see who the team brings in
April 28th, 2018 at 3:56 pm
Frazier (DE), Jones-Smith (OT) or Scrabrough (RB). Would also consider Eddy from UF IF those are gone.
April 28th, 2018 at 3:59 pm
Since we have a nasty o-line and a stud running back, I’d love to add a nasty, in-your-face fullback. Maybe I’m just old-fashioned.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:00 pm
Mike Smith is gonna be the death of us. Derwin James plus Maurice Hurst was the move, but no, we need fat DTs in a passing league.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:03 pm
Yeah, wasting another 6 rounder on a fullback that has zero percent chance of making the team. Licht does it nearly every year so you might get your wish.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:03 pm
Chris Schiefen
“Waaaah! I didn’t get the players I wanted! Waaaah!”
April 28th, 2018 at 4:10 pm
Enough of you cry-babies whining about us passing on Derwin James.
14 OTHER TEAMS PASSED ON JAMES for a reason.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:11 pm
Shut up Bonzai. That is some deep analysis buddy. The fact is is we have a huge DT with no get off and basically no safeties (though I like MJ Stewart). Seeing how good Hurst looked (& PFF ranked him the 4th best guy overall) sucks, especially since it was Gruden doing the picking.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:16 pm
LOL, like most of picks in then 6th round aren’t already usually wastes. Just saying you’re more likely to find a starting fullback around this time than you are a DE or really any other position besides K or P.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:17 pm
Chris
A DT with no get off? What the hell are you talking about? Vita has got a damn quick get off and McCoy has the fastest in the NFL.
No safeties? They drafted 3D D’s DBs !
A corner, a corner/safety and a safety.
I don’t know you but you are sounding like 1/3rd of all the pseudo-buccaneer fans on this website.
They are clueless whiners who think they know more than the teams actually drafting. Just giving you a heads up, it sounds pathetic
April 28th, 2018 at 4:20 pm
BUCCANEER BONZAI – what the hell are you talking about with Justin Watson and “his combine 40 was horrible.” ???
Justin Watson wasn’t even at the combine, he didn’t get an invite. He only performed at his own Pro Day.
I love how so many of you just MAKE STUFF UP about these prospects.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:24 pm
Dave is right, Chris. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Vea is one of the most explosive DTs in a long time. There’s a reason he was a consensus TOP 10 prospect in this draft by every NFL team.
As for safeties, the team has several to ‘audition’ in camp now and we’ll most certainly add more. And you also don’t know what the front office is working on… they might be in contract talks with Eric Reid or another FA safety.
It never ceases to amaze me how so many Bucs fans think they know more about scouting and player personnel than actual execs in the NFL that do it for a living.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:26 pm
Desmod Harrison….and yes, he needs to put on some weight (and he will), but that speed.
Need to groom our future RT…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zZaO_TpMYo
April 28th, 2018 at 4:31 pm
Eddie Pinero????
April 28th, 2018 at 4:35 pm
Mommy I going to cry because we didn’t get Derwin James for Christmas. You dont grab a combine hero with horrible tape, especially a Strong safety. Now Hurst I wouldn’t mind but he cant even hold Vea’s jock.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:38 pm
Hurst and Vea are two completely different players that play 2 different positions. Not all that fair to compare them to each other.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:39 pm
2 more picks….make it happen Mr Licht
DESMOND HARRISON!!!
April 28th, 2018 at 4:41 pm
Hot take(?) – Im sick of hearing about Shaquem Griffin
April 28th, 2018 at 4:41 pm
Loving the Griffin piece btw….Good luck big man!
April 28th, 2018 at 4:41 pm
With three Dbacks drafted…..I think it might be time for Joe’s punter…..oh wait….we have a punter…..
Sorry, Joe…but we have some developing to do…..
April 28th, 2018 at 4:42 pm
His combine was horrible…. you are a complete fool for saying that. He wasn’t invited so how can he be horrible. Stupid people should talk less so that way there stupidity is at least hidden. Rofl🤣
April 28th, 2018 at 4:42 pm
it gets old for some people and nfl network has run it a lot….i get you.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:43 pm
Today, I called for A Safety….WR & Developmental Olineman…..lets see if I hit the trifecta.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:44 pm
@MadMax
Yea thats the only reason why lol. Its a great story for sure, just gets old after the 30th time lol
April 28th, 2018 at 4:44 pm
I’m sick of hearing about Derwin Fing James!!!!!!!!
April 28th, 2018 at 4:47 pm
Wouldnt mind seeing them take another RB here. Scarborough would be my choice if it were to happen
April 28th, 2018 at 4:48 pm
Pick is in! LB Jack Cichy
April 28th, 2018 at 4:48 pm
Jack Cichy LB…..wait what?
April 28th, 2018 at 4:49 pm
ok, i’ll trust them….film time.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:49 pm
Surprising that we took a flyer on a LB in the 7th. Maybe they are worried about Beckwith’s injury?
April 28th, 2018 at 4:49 pm
Not a bad pick
April 28th, 2018 at 4:49 pm
I hope Cichy can stay healthy!
April 28th, 2018 at 4:53 pm
So nobody to groom at RT…..really?
ok then
April 28th, 2018 at 4:54 pm
Benenoch is still on the team
April 28th, 2018 at 4:54 pm
Ok I know it’s the 6th round and all but why pick a guy who’s been injured for the last year and a half in cichy? He’s not played since 2016
April 28th, 2018 at 4:58 pm
Cichy sounds like a special teams pick, and if healthy perhaps he could grow into a backup role. You need special teams guys, and most 6th rounders are busts, so not a bad pick if he’s healthy.
April 28th, 2018 at 4:58 pm
Bucsfan1010 Says:
April 28th, 2018 at 4:54 pm
Ok I know it’s the 6th round and all but why pick a guy who’s been injured for the last year and a half in cichy? He’s not played since 2016
Agreed. Feels like a throw away pick/give up slide…
April 28th, 2018 at 5:04 pm
Man I don’t know about this draft, every pick the Bucs made has some major red flags, except for Vita, but even then there is the issue of if if he’s just a 2-down player or not. They picked a RB with durability concerns and a diva personality, they picked two corners with limited speed, they picked an undersized safety with limited speed, they picked a D2 offensive lineman with mediocre (at best) measurables, and they picked a white WR from an Ive league.
Not at all saying the draft is a bust, we don’t know, but just saying no pick in the draft seemed to be a value or to make a lot of sense – and yes, that includes Vita since he’s a 3-4 run stopping NT despite the people that are saying he’s the next Sapp+Donald+Suh and a surefire 1st ballot HOFer.
Anyways Licht has enough history to get the benefit of the doubt, but if I’m the Glazers I’m not rushing to give him any extension anytime soon – I’d want to see how this class plays out first. Hopefully it all works out fantastic.
April 28th, 2018 at 5:15 pm
Cichy will be a solid special teams player and can contribute especially if we switch to a 3-4 as an ILB
April 28th, 2018 at 5:16 pm
@Rod Munch
There are pluses to all of the picks as well.
April 28th, 2018 at 5:17 pm
Boohooo.
April 28th, 2018 at 5:17 pm
I’ll say it again, I hope the Bucs sign Quinton Flowers who I doubt will be drafted, the idea should be to move him to RB, but I’d allow him to at least have looks at QB. The kid has special talents and I think he’d help the team in some way, be it special teams, as a RB, an emergency QB and in particular as someone they could use at the goalline. From watching him and Lamar Jackson there is very little difference other than about 2.5 inches in height.
April 28th, 2018 at 5:18 pm
i assume the defensive staff and head coach told licht the type of players they wanted/needed.
April 28th, 2018 at 5:20 pm
Story to answer your question coming momentarily.
April 28th, 2018 at 5:23 pm
Joeypoppems – certainly, my post sounds more down on the picks than I actually am, that’s just my gut reaction to things. But the picks are in so now I hope for the best and hope Licht’s history proves that he knows what he’s doing.
April 28th, 2018 at 5:23 pm
I’ve got the same uneasy feeling that Hot Rod has…of course I have PTSD from the past 15 years of fandom.
April 28th, 2018 at 5:24 pm
Alright now it’s time to start lining up udfa…
April 28th, 2018 at 5:42 pm
Overall this is a very meh draft from Licht.
I like picking Vea, Davis, and Cappa, and I’m ok with Ronald Jones. Even though if it were my call Jones would have been Guice.
But the rest of the picks I could do without. Stewart, and Whitehead should have been Isiah Oliver and Shaq Griffin. I don’t care about the 6th round pick, but honestly if you were going to take a linebacker anyway why not take the much, much more talented one.
April 28th, 2018 at 5:44 pm
Oh yeah and The Watson pick isn’t bad either I suppose. At 6’3 with 4.4 speed at his pro day and a 40 inch vert he could develop into a pretty solid Receiver even though we didn’t totally need one.
April 28th, 2018 at 5:48 pm
I love the crying from the couch gms and scouts.
These picks seemed pretty good and fit what needs we had. Let these guys play a snap and see what they have before calling for thier heads.
We added depth to the d line and secondary and added a homerun type rb. Not sure how u can be upset.
We get it some players wanted people from thier fav college teams or whatever but there no need to hate on the pkayers before they even played becuase u prefered your “favorite” player over another.
April 28th, 2018 at 5:50 pm
The Bucs look more like a fckn chess or debate team than a nfl team. WT actual F.
IM CONVINCED AINT NOBODY HERE INTERESTED IN WINNING AND THE GLAZERS OBVIOUSLY HIRED THE WRONG GM.
JON ROBINSON WAS THE BRAINS OF THE OPERATION OBVIOSLY.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL. YOU DESERVE TO BE BLESSED CUZ YOULL DAMN SURE NEVER GET TO SEE WINNING FOOTBALL EVER AGAIN. SM (mf) H
Don’t @ me
April 28th, 2018 at 5:54 pm
DB55 Says:
April 28th, 2018 at 5:50 pm
The Bucs look more like a fckn chess or debate team than a nfl team. WT actual F.
IM CONVINCED AINT NOBODY HERE INTERESTED IN WINNING AND THE GLAZERS OBVIOUSLY HIRED THE WRONG GM.
JON ROBINSON WAS THE BRAINS OF THE OPERATION OBVIOSLY.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL. YOU DESERVE TO BE BLESSED CUZ YOULL DAMN SURE NEVER GET TO SEE WINNING FOOTBALL EVER AGAIN. SM (mf) H
Don’t @ me
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Go be a Titans fan then! Seriously, what is your beef? Are you upset we passed on Derwin?
April 28th, 2018 at 5:55 pm
I think DB is trying to say we drafted too many White guys.
April 28th, 2018 at 5:55 pm
The Wide Receiver they drafted.
Six spots for WRs, right?
The locks are:
Mike Evans
Desean Jackson (this year)
Adam Humphries
Chris Godwin
He will compete for one of two spots with:
Freddie Martino
Bobo Wilson
Jake Lampman
Devin Lucien
If he is even halfway good, how can he not make the team????
I believe the hope is that he will turn out to be a major steal, because Licht knows Jackson will be gone next year, and Godwin is not fast enough.
April 28th, 2018 at 6:00 pm
Don’t forget D. Walker outta Canada, eh Brown 👁?!
April 28th, 2018 at 6:00 pm
SteveK
I’m upset that we’ve avg 6 wins a yr for the last decade! What are you happy about?
April 28th, 2018 at 6:05 pm
@DB55
I’ll @ whoever I want. Feel free to ignore.
April 28th, 2018 at 6:07 pm
Godwin will be thud teams #2 wideout once Jackson leaves..
April 28th, 2018 at 6:21 pm
@bonzai
Godwin ran a 4.42. That’s plenty fast. Walton was clocked by Licht @4.39.
April 28th, 2018 at 6:26 pm
@ Blake
In a vacuum Guice would be the pick for me as well. But seeing as Guice lies multiple times (teams asking if he liked men, and if his mom was a hooker) AND got into a shouting match at his (job) interview/visit with the eagles I’m glad we didn’t take him. I like RoJo, and some scouts had him as the #2 rb in this class (in front of Guice)
April 28th, 2018 at 6:27 pm
Lmao DB55 is such a biatch lol.
Wha wha cry cry. What a fa g
April 28th, 2018 at 6:30 pm
What’s with all the b*tching here? Over the course of this draft and off-season we have significantly overhauled the DL, improved the interior of the OL, added an RB and added some quality to our secondary. Now it’s on Dirk, Smitty and the staff to develop these guys and integrate their strengths into the O and D systems. There are still rookie FAs to sign, June 1st cuts and viable vet FA options at S. This team isn’t done yet. We’ee Seemingly on the cusp of having something we haven’t had since the turn of the century- quality depth.
April 28th, 2018 at 6:33 pm
@frank
It’s nothing new. Site is full of negative Nancys.
April 28th, 2018 at 6:35 pm
*Watson
Not Walton lol. Stupid auto correct
April 28th, 2018 at 6:42 pm
The Titans drafted their next starting QB in Luke Falk at the same pick as Falk’s idol, Tom Brady, #199 overall … front page story on ESPN.
In all seriousness, I don’t think Mariota loses his starting job next year … but maybe by 2019 …
April 28th, 2018 at 6:44 pm
@Dbag55
@snowflake melting
@heresyourattention….
sober up b!ch.
April 28th, 2018 at 6:49 pm
Cautious optimism for this very ‘blue collar’ draft class. Licht overhauled the secondary and drafted some good players for the trenches. Let’s see if he can bring in some undrafted free agents. He now has my permission to bring in a kicker. Did he draft the right players? We’ll talk again in 1-3 years.
April 28th, 2018 at 6:49 pm
Can’t wait to see our undrafted free agents list. These guys can sign with whatever team they want so it’s always interesting to see what teams the best players gravitate to. We should be able to sign a few corners since that was our biggest competition.
April 28th, 2018 at 6:54 pm
BRING IN OT DESMOND HARRISON and groom him to be Dotson’s replacement in 2019
2018: Smith/Marpet/Jensen/Sweezy/Dotson
2019: Smith/Marlet/Jensen/Kappa/Harrison
April 28th, 2018 at 7:04 pm
Next day or two will be BIG. Lots of quality talent wasn’t drafted for one reason or another. Classic example is CB J.C. Jackson from Maryland (the cat who was kicked out of UF). Quality skillset & a number of evaluators thought he could go in Rnds 2-3. Unfortunately for him, teams don’t forget little things like being arrested for armed robbery (he was acquitted) or being shot at (bullet barely glazed his eyelid apparently). But at the same time, Maryland coaches said that he was never any trouble, so MAYBE he’s turned things around. And Bo Scarborough’s still available, as well as a number of pretty highly-rated DTs & OLinemen. We hit it big before with undrafted guys like Cam Brate & Adam Humphries … do it again Jason.
April 28th, 2018 at 7:11 pm
I was initially down on MJ Howard and RoJo, but I am starting to come around. One thing’s for sure……we’re going to be as nasty as we want to be!!!
…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chZQWLQBQlc
April 28th, 2018 at 7:11 pm
^ Bo Scarborough was drafted by the Cowboys
BRING IN DESMOND HARRISON and JC JACKSON for sure!
April 28th, 2018 at 7:17 pm
I’m very happy we adressed the secondary. And I love BIG guys so love our first round choice too.
Now they have to coach these guys up and they have to contribute or it’s back to square one.
April 28th, 2018 at 7:18 pm
No Scarborough was already picked. By Dallas I believe.
April 28th, 2018 at 7:23 pm
Off the field I think that Vae is much much nicer then Gerald McCoy.
This should be some fun developement
April 28th, 2018 at 7:42 pm
Wow we just signed Erv Phillips from syracuse i went to highschool with him he is a baller surprised he didnt get drafted
April 28th, 2018 at 7:45 pm
DB55 being negative after not seeing any of the new Bucs take a single snap. Get lost already dude. Real fans are optimistic about their teams draft, haters like you just hate.
April 28th, 2018 at 7:52 pm
VERY GOOD DRAFT MR. LICHT ! I was a lil upset Thursday night that we took Vea over James, But now I am all in with not only Vita, but our entire draft class. Even when the first cb we picked was a little surprising instead of kid from Lsu or Colorado, I still have complete faoth in our Gm and our entire team ! Looks like we definitely got more of a physical team. Im pumped for camp and optimistic about the upcoming season. GO BUCS FIRE THE CANNONS !!!
April 28th, 2018 at 7:57 pm
udfa so far:
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Demone Harris, DE, Buffalo
Godwin Igwebuike, S, Northwestern
Erv Philips, WR, Syracuse
Jason Reese, TE, Missouri
Antonio Simmons, DE, Georgia Tech
April 28th, 2018 at 7:58 pm
Joseph Zema, P, Incarnate Word
April 28th, 2018 at 8:04 pm
NFLNut … “Bo Scarborough was drafted by the Cowboys.” Rats! He’s gonna be the steal of the draft.
Lurker, where’d you find that list of UDFAs signed so far? Igwebuike from Northwestern has a LOT of potential IMO. Fast too.
April 28th, 2018 at 8:06 pm
Donnie Ernsberger, TE, Western Michigan
April 28th, 2018 at 8:13 pm
Gained draft capital and drafted the positions we need. I hope atleast one of the CB’s pans out. On the surface, this draft seems like an “A”. Nice job Licht.
April 28th, 2018 at 8:18 pm
.needs…. RB.
April 28th, 2018 at 8:22 pm
Brian Bridgewater, basketball, LSU (tryout as TE)
Austin Allen, QB, Arkansas
April 28th, 2018 at 8:50 pm
One thing is for sure with this offseason. Our defense has overgone a major overalhaul. The Dline and Backfield will look completely different from last year. The potential looks great right now.
Will be very interesting to follow this defense and see how it shapes out.
April 28th, 2018 at 8:52 pm
@Joe. Unless I missed it, I haven’t heard Quinton Flowers’ name throughout the entire draft thus far. I Knew that he would be a late draft pick but not one word about Flowers. Have you heard through your sources if there’s any chance of him being an undrafted free agent with the Bucs? Say what you want about his poor quarterback skills, he’s still an amazing talent. Just give the guy a chance and I gaurentee he will be wearing pewter & red. – Thanks
April 28th, 2018 at 8:55 pm
@lurker
Is Godwin Igwebuike, S, Northwestern related to Donald Igwebuike?
April 28th, 2018 at 9:05 pm
Bucs should bring in Tarvarus McFadden, CB, Florida State
April 28th, 2018 at 9:06 pm
nephew, according to greg auman
April 28th, 2018 at 9:08 pm
Evan Perrizo, DE, Minnesota State
April 28th, 2018 at 9:14 pm
Possible Defense Depth Chart
RDE Vinny Curry | Noah Spence | Will Clarke
RDT Gerald McCoy | Mitch Unrein
LDT Beau Allen | Vita Vea
LDE Jason Pierre-Paul | William Gholston
WLB Lavonte David | Cameron Lynch
MLB Kwon Alexander | Adarius Glanton
SLB Devante Bond | Jack Cichy
CB Brent Grimes | Carlton Davis
CB Vernon Hargreaves | Ryan Smith
CB M.J. Stewart | Javien Elliott
S Chris Conte | Keith Tandy
S Justin Evans | Jordan Whitehead
Note: Kendell Beckwith Probably Starts Season on Reserve/NFI
So far after Free Agency & The Draft.
Has The Group Been Improved Y/N
April 28th, 2018 at 9:27 pm
Luv the depth at DE is still a little worrisome.
The secondary group could also shake out several different ways. Stewart might be but at SS.
April 28th, 2018 at 9:28 pm
And yes they have improved. Especially up front.
April 28th, 2018 at 9:37 pm
Tampa Bay Buccaneers UDFA
Austin Allen, QB, Arkansas
Brian Bridgewater, TE, LSU
Donnie Ernsberger, TE, Western Michigan
Demone Harris, DE, Buffalo
Godwin Igwebuike, S, Northwestern
Evan Perrizo, DE, Minnesota State
Erv Philips, WR, Syracuse
Jason Reese, TE, Missouri
Antonio Simmons, DE, Georgia Tech
April 28th, 2018 at 9:42 pm
Believe he signed as a free agent with Cincinnati.
April 28th, 2018 at 9:56 pm
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NOTABLE UDRFAs:
Simmie Cobbs: Bears
Kevin Tolliver: Bears
Quintin Flowers: Bengals
Desmond Harrison: Browns … ugh
J.T. Barrett: Colts
Tony Brown: Chargers
Eddy Pineiro: Jaguars
Holton Hill: Vikings … ugh
Hercules Mata’afa: Vikings
Roc Thomas: Vikings
JC Jackson: Patriots … ugh
Josh Adams: Eagles
Poona Ford: Seahawks … ugh
Akrum Wadley: Titans … ugh
Martez Carter: Redskins
ALL (15) of the above players were widely expected to be drafted, some as high as the 4th or 5th round, and I would have LOVED to have at least the (5) “ugh” guys in our camp!
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April 28th, 2018 at 9:59 pm
I hear U. Was hoping we drafted someone like Ade Aruna. But who knows, maybe we sign someone like Willie Young, to come in and compete.
SideNote: Still would sign Vaccarro & Breeland.
April 28th, 2018 at 10:00 pm
^JimmyJack
April 28th, 2018 at 10:54 pm
I am happy with the draft overall again, the back half of Lichts drafts always baffle me. There were better players (IMO) than who we drafted available for what we needed, but I guess that is why I do what I do and JL does what he does. The UDFAs are a little bizarre too this year but Iggy is a stud and could make our team. I thought we liked the RB from FSU. I really thought we needed 2 RBs in this draft and then we could send Sims or Rodgers packing for some young blood that would be hungry. Love the RJ pick but thought we shoulda followed it up with another guy on the back end. John Kelley, Bo Scarborough or some guy no one has ever heard of. Jason Licht seems to always go for small schools for his UDFAs I hope one of these guys pans out, he always seems to find one.
April 28th, 2018 at 11:53 pm
fell asleep again….just woke up….Thanks so much for the updates Trench and Nut.
What up Luv? Got our guys brotha, Big V and Jones II….how about that jit!!!
April 29th, 2018 at 8:29 am
Licht’s Out Says
“Don’t forget D. Walker outta Canada”
No accounting for bad taste. We should have kept him over Bobo, who did absolutely nothing for us. Meanwhile, he had another monster year in the CFL, right?
And considering only one person calls me that, congrats on exposing who you really are. I imagine the Joe will figure it out too at some point.
IP Banning is the only way to go!
April 29th, 2018 at 10:06 am
Bonzai you’re a maroon dude. Derel Walker is a no-talent bum who will NEVER make it on ANY NFL roster. Same goes for your man crush Riley Bullough.
He can make it to the CFL hall of fame playing against fellow nobodies. But he does not have the natural ability or skill set to make it in the real Pro league. That’s just a fact, and it is honestly so effing hilarious that you’re still clinging to that bum.
I like Vita Vea a lot, but I have to admit, the fact that you love him as much as you do really worries me. But I guess a broken clock is still right twice a day.