Pressure On M.J. Stewart
April 30th, 2018
Wearing bulls-eye?
In a way, it’s not fair to the player. But this is the NFL not college or high school.
No breaks are given in the NFL because you are a nice guy. Nor should there be. It’s about production. A player is paid (very well) to produce in the NFL. If one produces, all is good. Don’t produce? You will hear about it from the masses.
It is unfair to rag on a rookie because of some perceived over-value by fans who wanted another player instead. The player wasn’t the one who picked himself for Team-X.
Again, see above. Produce. The NFL isn’t supposed to be fair.
And that’s why, in a way, Joe feels bad for new cornerback M.J. Stewart from North Carolina.
For the better part of the last two days, Bucs fans are hollering at their bartender because the Bucs didn’t draft Colorado’s Isaiah Oliver, who many NFL analysts considered a better corner prospect and who faced much better quarterbacks last season in the PAC-12 than Stewart did in the ACC.
Already it seems Bucs fans have a target on Stewart’s back before he has even snapped on a chin strap for the Bucs, much like they did (and do) for Donovan Smith and Vernon Hargreaves. Joe is convinced both couldn’t do a thing to calm the crazies short of leaving town.
So for Stewart’s sake, Joe hopes the guy balls out and players the Bucs passed on, such as safeties Ronnie Harrison of Alabama or Justin Reed of Stanford or Oklahoma offensive tackle Orlando Brown or Oliver, don’t make an NFL 2018 All-Rookie team.
April 30th, 2018 at 9:09 am
Not looking forward to Oliver becoming a nightmare for us when we play Atlanta. It would be one thing if he got drafted by any other team and turned out great, but our division rival had to get him.
April 30th, 2018 at 9:10 am
ACC is arguably the best conference in college football and the only one to have beaten the mighty SEC when it counts (FSU over Auburn & Clemson over Alabama) and 2nd behind the SEC with players in the NFL… Stewart is battle tested and will compete
April 30th, 2018 at 9:11 am
I have seen a lot of people reference player rankings by ESPN and other avenues acting as though those rankings are scriptures written in the bible LOL. Even more to the point I have seen a lot of people beat down Licht on drafting a kicker in the 2nd round….. I myself have been heavily critical of Licht over FA signings and people he released. (Penn, Revis etc.)
That being said I do think Lichts strength is in the draft. He has proven more than capable of evaluating rookie talent in places that other GM’s aren’t looking. (See Marpet, I almost fell off my chair seeing a DIII player go so early.) What I really like about this draft is we not only gained starters but we also gained great depth and development options. I am very optimistic about our future. More optimistic then I have been recently. Go bucs!
April 30th, 2018 at 9:11 am
It was an odd pick in an otherwise excellent draft. ESPN had him as the 4th best CB available at the time…
April 30th, 2018 at 9:12 am
It doesn’t matter where you were drafted, what matters is what you do afterwards with the opportunity. I was a little upset about the pick at first, but after watching some film, he seems like a real disrupter at the line of scrimmage, and that’s what Bucs fans have been aching for the last couple years. He deserves a chance to prove himself.
April 30th, 2018 at 9:18 am
Because fans were cheering the selections of John Lynch or Ronde.. Most Fans just know names because they heard it on tv. Give the kid a chance to find his way.
April 30th, 2018 at 9:19 am
Stewart has a great excuse to fail because I hear Bucs coaches can’t develop young QBs……so don’t blame it on the player.
Maybe he can punt…
April 30th, 2018 at 9:22 am
So what if those players have success. It’s a crapshoot and not a perfect science. So are GM’s supposed to follow a draft board according on what NFL analysts say? What makes them experts that says we have to follow their evaluations. I think these pre draft player rankings do nothing but hurt many obscure players. Players who fly under the radar, and don’t have tons of hype or fan fare. What makes Reed or Oliver any better than MJ? Because someone subjectively put them on a list ahead of him? …boloney …Up here in the big leagues everyone slate starts anew.
April 30th, 2018 at 9:30 am
Let’s see what happens with this kid hit the field- honestly, he can’t play much worse than our DBs not named Grimes (or McClain, for that matter) did last year. I know that’s not exactly a ringing endorsement or the setting of a legitimate “gold standard” here…but when you’re essentially at zero, there’s only one way to go. Steward seems versatile, physical and aggressive- at the very least, he’s developmental depth. The upshot is that he outplays VHIII at nickel or Conte at S.
April 30th, 2018 at 9:31 am
Listen….there are 100’s of college DB’s and MJ Stewart was ranked and projected as a draft able player in the range he was drafted….the Buc’s liked him and he is a Buc now…to armchair GM this and that about MJ vs any other player is pointless….lets sit back and see what he can do….SMH
April 30th, 2018 at 9:35 am
The guy was dominating at the Senior Bowl.
Per the senior Bowl:
Senior Bowl officials named Stewart the top defensive back in this week’s practices
Pro Football Focus:
M.J. Stewart, North Carolina: Stewart broke out last season, finishing with the nation’s sixth-best coverage grade while allowing opposing quarterbacks a passer rating of just 38.9 when targeting him.
April 30th, 2018 at 9:36 am
Casey Morgan:
Who cares where ESPN had him ranked? The Bucs have a scouting team. They have their own talent evaluations on players. They have an intimate knowledge of what they believe is going to work within their system, and what kind of player they want on their team. Where ESPN has a player ranked has absolutely no bearing on where the BUCS should be drafting the players they want.
ESPN can say whatever they want. They aren’t responsible for the pick after it’s made, and they have no skin in the game whatsoever. Who cares what they think? Get behind your Bucs!
April 30th, 2018 at 9:36 am
It was the Bucs’ strangest pick. But Licht knows something about this kid. Let’s hope he surprises everyone. He might be a star.
April 30th, 2018 at 9:45 am
I’m not surprised that he was picked (I’ll reserve criticism if it’s warranted)…..what I am surprised with is that Licht thought he would be selected before Davis…….now that is puzzling.
We will hopefully get a satisfactory answer.
April 30th, 2018 at 9:45 am
I watched a lot of Carlton Davis and was super happy we picked him. His length makes him special and it will be fresh to see man coverage for a change. When we drafted Stewart, I too was surprised but when I looked him up, some analysts had him ranked as a top 5 prospect. I watched his tape and he is very physical at the point of contact and knocks receivers off of there route quite frequently.
The standard nowadays is to find 3 starters in the draft.
I believe a year from now it is possible there are 6 or more.
Of course I’m excited about the unknown, but I believe Licht just hit a grand slam with this draft.
April 30th, 2018 at 9:46 am
That wasn’t the point. Joe wrote there were better quarterbacks in the PAC-12 last year. Don’t think there is any dispute about this.
For reference, look at the PAC-12 quarterbacks drafted this weekend and how high they were drafted.
April 30th, 2018 at 9:51 am
Isiah Oliver could’ve been the pick, and Stewart would have still been on the board with the Bucs 4th pick. Maybe even for their 5th pick. Pressure isn’t on Stewart tho, the pressure is on Licht. If Oliver (under a very favorable scheme and staff) develops into a Richard Sherman type, then you have to say uh oh. I liked Davis with the second pick tho. Not sure that Davis makes it to the Bucs 4th pick if Oliver was the 3rd pick.
My biggest issue with Stewart as a CB is that he is VHIII 2.0 in his skill and athletic set. Not that it is a bad thing. I thing VHIII is ready to really flourish as a slot CB/nickel guy.
My only thought is that he will compete at Safety, (Justin Reid was sitting there and much more athletically suited for safety) but is a bit undersized to compete there. Justin Reid probably is a day one starter.
April 30th, 2018 at 9:52 am
If a player fails in the NFL because of heat from a message board or fan base then they are weak mentally. He got picked in the second round because of talent. That’s what he should focus on not some fans complaining a player that they never watched got picked over another player they never watched.
April 30th, 2018 at 9:52 am
Before the Saints picked RB Alvin Kamara there were other RB’s on the board ranked ahead of him. How did that work out? These list are subjective and are used by talking heads for entertainment value and their silly mock drafts. Too many fans put to much stock in these pre draft player rankings, and lash out when their GM’s don’t follow them like they are gospel. It all starts over for everyone of them. How they were perceived coming out of college has no real bearing on how they will compete in the NFL. Plenty of high ranked players wash out all the time.
April 30th, 2018 at 9:56 am
the cool thing about mj is if the receiver he’s covering goes in motion, he will moonwalk to the other side of the field to cover him…like one smooth ass mofo!
hooray for mj 🙂
April 30th, 2018 at 9:56 am
No say it correctly the Joe’s have a Target in his back and basically confirmed that with all the can’t develop a corner nonsense. One of these corners or both could come off the bench and realistically they don’t have to start day one. I think Ryan Smith is the guy in trouble because he can’t press or truthfully the only guy we have good in press is vh3. Don’t care what anyone did in college until they do it in the NFL which included rojo we had more pressure
April 30th, 2018 at 10:00 am
Mr. Stewart that is Drew Brees running out of the tunnel.
Good luck sir.
April 30th, 2018 at 10:04 am
between bathroom stall drug binges, culkin stood up and cheered heavily for this pick while partying hard with the stick carriers
April 30th, 2018 at 10:10 am
On a side note. Did anyone else have a hard time watching and listening to Chris Mortensen? I felt really bad for him as you can tell that the throat cancer has taken its toll on him. Prayers to him and his family as he battles this awful disease!
April 30th, 2018 at 10:16 am
Humpty:
Mort has had a rough go the past few years. Damned near died from an insect bite a few years ago and then the throat cancer. Didn’t hear him because didn’t watch BSPN.
Month or so ago heard him on NFL radio and it was hard to listen to.
April 30th, 2018 at 10:16 am
Stewart was the biggest head scratcher in this draft. The kid from Auburn and the kid from Pitt I like. The U Penn WR was a head scratcher only because the Bucs were already well stocked at WR and the OL could still use some depth.
But I watched Stewart in a few games and thought he was an average at best college player, which means by NFL standards, he sucks.
April 30th, 2018 at 10:18 am
So the millions of dollars spent on scouts and scouting players and the couch fan knows this is not the pick
HOW DO YOU KNOW???
Welcome Stewart
April 30th, 2018 at 10:21 am
I thought the pick would be LSU CB Donte Jackson or Isaiah Oliver. MJ Stewart is another slow CB, and so is Carlton Davis. I thought they were going with the speedy Jackson. I also thought they were going with the speedy Derwin James at SS. But they went with another slow guy at SS. It looks like the Bucs want the slow guys who can hit, instead of getting faster in the secondary.
Derwin James | 4.47 40 yard dash
Donte Jackson | 4.32 40 yard dash
So the Falcons take Oliver and Carolina take Jackson
April 30th, 2018 at 10:24 am
It was obvious that we wanted tough guys who are not afraid to tackle in the secondary. I live in Colorado and I’m not entirely sure that Oliver is that guy. The difference between the “experts” rankings and the NFL teams is that the personnel guys from the teams have actually talked to every guy they drafted. The “experts” haven’t except for the 1st round projections. The “experts” haven’t had these guys one on one for anything. They just watched some film on them. Yeah, that helps, but you gotta talk to them to find out if they are a fit for your team.
April 30th, 2018 at 10:25 am
^ Whitehead is a lot faster than Kyzir White who some said Licht should have drafted over Whitehead though … I don’t think Licht values speed above all; he wants guys who live and breathe football and by all accounts that is MJ Stewart and by all accounts that is NOT Isaiah Oliver …
April 30th, 2018 at 10:31 am
A plus with these new DB’s is they have Grimes to teach them some technique. Hopefully the DB coach will not be an influence
April 30th, 2018 at 10:33 am
Vernon Hargreaves | 4.50
Brent Grimes | 4.65
MJ Stewart | 4.54
Carlton Davis | 4.53
Chris Conte | 4. 55
Justin Evans | 4.60
Jordon Whitehead | 4.60
I don’t like the picks
This is a very slow secondary
April 30th, 2018 at 10:37 am
Ronde was a slow short undersized CB….so I don’t get it ?….I’ve watched a lot of Youtube…I’m a GM now
April 30th, 2018 at 10:41 am
These slow guys don’t have the speed to stay with NFL WRs. They will have to rely on technique and coverage skills.
The question is:
Can the Bucs secondary coaches develop these guys for the NFL?
April 30th, 2018 at 10:41 am
Alot of ppl were down on Justin Evans (myself included) as it seemed like a reach at the time. Turns out Evans is a baller.
I will trust Lichts evaluation and player rankings more than the talking heads
April 30th, 2018 at 10:45 am
Justin Evans profile was doomed in Buc fans minds when the first words out of some talking head just after the pick was named said something to the effect of… ” he is more concerned with making a highlight hit,than making a tackle and misses some times”……so that image was branded in Buc fans minds…SMH..again
April 30th, 2018 at 10:46 am
I wish we got Oliver, but if the guy can ball he can ball. Just hope we can last against the Dixie chicks and their new WR. But with Matty ice running for his life for once we should be okay.
April 30th, 2018 at 10:46 am
Ronde Barber were developed and coached by these coaches.
Herman Edwards
Mike Tomlin
Raheem Morris
The Bucs don’t have these type of DB coaches now
April 30th, 2018 at 10:46 am
“and Stewart would have still been on the board with the Bucs 4th pick. Maybe even for their 5th pick”
lmao
He was rated as a Day 2 player and he went on Day 2.
Personally I duno how the f*ck to evaluate CB with any extreme precision and it seems like the one position that is the most flawed in terms of how people rate them each year.
Go look at past drafts recently … the consensus opinion CBs are very boom/bust:
2015 – Trae Waynes (11) & Kevin Johnson (16) went over Marcus Peters (18). Then Jalen Collins / Eric Rowe went in the 2nd before Ronald Darby (50) and the Ronald Darby pick was highly questioned at the time as he was projected a potential 3rd rounder by many.
2016 – the top CB Justin Gilbert is like out of the league. The best of the 1st round was the last CBs taken – Jason Verrett / Bradley Roby. A few more busts went in R2 before guys like Phillip Gaines/Bashaud Breeland going in R3. Aaron Colvin R4.
And I have no idea how our guys will pan out – but CB is definitely one of the bigger crap shoots of a positional evaluation. They come in all shapes / sizes / measurables / schools / etc.
In the end we needed a bigger outside CB option and general CB depth for both outside /nickle. The team thinks they added exact fits for both those positions and neither Stewart or Davis was grossly over-drafted. They went late in R2 and were projected in that range.
I respect a lot of opinions here – especially those who simply do not view these guys as good prospects because they watched the games -but personally I am happy with it.
I’d have probably traded up for Joshua Jackson but then we likely wouldn’t have gotten Cappa and/or another CB. Knowing how boom/bust CBs are I’m happy we got 2 of them. Hopefully Stewart is the Darby/Colvin/etc of this draft
April 30th, 2018 at 10:53 am
LakeLand
Making a big deal out of hundreds of a second is shortsighted. The difference between .47 and .54 is a non issue in football for a DB. It’s more about angles and positioning, and how quick they get out of their breaks. I put more stock in the cone drills than the dash when the numbers separating players is so minute at best.
April 30th, 2018 at 10:53 am
BS on this whole rag….”developing players”….those day are long gone unless you are a UDFA practice squad guy….otherwise you either have the physical talent or you don’t….coaches teach their system and some NFL technique…develop…SMH again….draft is a crap shoot to a large degree….see all the 1st round busts year after year…decade after decade…sit back and watch….stop crying like a kid watching his balloon drift into the clouds….
April 30th, 2018 at 10:59 am
You guys continue to talk about Justin Evans. Did you all actually watched any Bucs games last season. Evans gave up a ton of TDs, getting beat deep. Julio Jones owned him last season, and Ryan Smith took the heat. Evans was suppose to give Smith help over the top, but he was always late getting there, because of his speed. The reason why Mike Smith didn’t put Brent Grimes on Julio was because he wanted to double Julio with Smith and Evans. So he put Grimes on Sanu, but Evans was totally out of the picture, so it seems like Ryan Smith had him in man coverage….but that wasn’t the case, Evans was suppose to give him help.
April 30th, 2018 at 11:01 am
He was clearly over drafted. We all know that.
He has the eye of the tiger mentally and he is hard nosed.
So lets see. It does seem odd he was drafted over the auburn db.
April 30th, 2018 at 11:02 am
Fascinating article on M.J. Stewart in the News & Observer came out the morning he was drafted (http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/article209849514.html ) . Lots of ‘stuff’ in there I hadn’t read before, such as “Stewart finished his career at UNC as the school’s all-time leader in pass breakups, but NFL scouts were high on Stewart’s physicality and tackling ability.” Being the ‘all-time leader in pass breakups’ tells me something … MJ can cover. Also liked his response when asked what he brings to the table … “”I’m a versatile player who can play nickel corner, safety even if need be.” Versatility is a very good thing at the NFL level IMO. As is ‘physicality’.
April 30th, 2018 at 11:02 am
I predict another 4th place finish for the Tampa Bay Bucs in 2018
It’s official I”m on the clock
Welcome to Sucksville, USA
April 30th, 2018 at 11:04 am
I would way rather have the toughness of MJ Stewart and Carlton Davis than a corner like Dante Jackson that weighs less than Calista Flockhart.
April 30th, 2018 at 11:06 am
Defense Rules,
The Bucs biggest problem in the secondary won’t be the Corners
The Safeties are their biggest liability
April 30th, 2018 at 11:07 am
Lake…the best safety in the NFL would get burned just like Evans did….playing behind the same DL the Bucs trotted out last year….QB’s had all the time in the world……simple conclusions…SMH
April 30th, 2018 at 11:08 am
LL the depth of your posts is fascinating. But I bet you’ll be the first to wear your Bucs hat once we start winning. You not only live in Sucksville you are the Mayor.
April 30th, 2018 at 11:17 am
All we really know is that we drafted 2 CBs in the 2nd round from a pretty strong CB class.
Odds are that at least one of them will turn out pretty good – and if both can get on the field and show promise this year – we can let Brent ride off into the sunset next year feeling a lot more comfortable about the position moving forward.
As a couple others noted – I’m glad Brent is here this year to continue helping ALL of our young CBs adjust to the NFL game.
April 30th, 2018 at 11:17 am
LakeLand
Did you actually watch any games last year yourself? It was pretty evident that opposing QB’s had all day to pick on our DB’s. Get some perspective man. Even Darrelle Revis when he was here struggled when the QB’s and WR’s had all day for plays to develop. The new push on the defensive line will help keep our DB’s from hanging out to dry
April 30th, 2018 at 11:19 am
D. Smith is simply mediocre at best. MANY more sites and analysts and scouts believe that than just PFF.
He’s average on his best days.
He’s a liability on his down days.
Look at the sacks and pressures he gave up – then add that to the penalties.
Those are drive killers.
D. Smith was among the very worst in the league when adding up the 3 “no can do’s” of a left tackle above.
As for Hargreaves… no one is giving up on him. Many corners struggle early and then settle into their roles. The hope is he can become an average starter at the position and combined with Carlton and Stewart provide a solid trio thats excels in the current scheme.
The main problem is that these guys are very scheme dependent and better at zone coverage than man – so if for reasons we hope don’t happen, Mike Smith and his system are fired – these guys may not be good fits of the next regime.
THAT’S where the real pressure is. These guys have to settle into their roles fast, or they may become non-fits in the future.
Thankfully, the Bucs listened and did the most important thing this offseason by…
FIXING THE TRENCHES AND, THUS, FIXING THE BUCS!!!
April 30th, 2018 at 11:27 am
We will see what this rookie does when the lights come on then you see what you have we do need a corner or 2 maybe next year i still dont like oir picks but ill live with them and learn to like them but they better produce on the field especially or 1st pick season just months away.
April 30th, 2018 at 11:34 am
Yeah the MJ Stewart pick was puzzling, kid had good tape just don’t know if I see him playing on the outside. Seems like a nickel corner, love that he plays so aggressive though.
April 30th, 2018 at 11:44 am
Because NFL analysts know so much more about the Bucs needs (never know jack sh!t about the Bucs) than Jason Licht. Who seems to do well with drafting.
April 30th, 2018 at 11:50 am
@Lakeland … “The Safeties are their biggest liability.” I tend to look at the Secondary as a unit Lakeland as opposed to CB & Safety groups. Right now our Secondary ‘unit’ is mediocre, primarily because the experienced players … except Grimes (VHIII, Conte & Tandy) are average (at best) and the younger players are VERY young (and thus relatively inexperienced). For their part, Safeties can make CBs look very good … or VERY bad. Ours leaned more towards the latter last year.
We could very well have TWO rookies starting in the Secondary come September (one at CB; the other at SS) plus Evans (a 2nd year FS). That doesn’t spell ‘Super Bowl’ to me … this year. But it’s setting the stage defensively for the future, and as long as Bucs’ D plays well this year, I can go along with that.
April 30th, 2018 at 11:53 am
It’s not all about speed.
April 30th, 2018 at 12:02 pm
All the DBs selected will need some time to develop and adjust to the speed of the game. Will Smith and the secondary coaches be able to develop these players?
April 30th, 2018 at 12:03 pm
Welcome to Tampa Bay MJ. Just play football dude. That, and no 10 yard cushions, OK?
April 30th, 2018 at 12:18 pm
Those of you doubting Stewart abilities…His former coach says he should be a 1st round pick, as good as his 3 former Thorpe winners.
http://chapelboro.com/sports/unc-sports/carolina-tar-heels-mj-stewart-senior-bowl-nfl-draft-gene-chizik
April 30th, 2018 at 12:24 pm
Don’t know much about it but I think Stewart was involved in a hazing incident and some sort of assault (not on a female)……I think he is a tough guy….perhaps an Incognito in the backfield…..I believe he fit exactly the type of player Licht was looking for…..lets hope so.
I still want to hear why he was picked ahead of Davis…..there were 3 CBs and a S picked between our CBs because of the trade back…..Licht must have thought someone was going after Stewart.
April 30th, 2018 at 12:24 pm
Jason does great until the team he assembles takes the field, and plays as the worst defense in the league.
leaving huge holes the other teams continually exploit is not good General Managing IMO.
Perhaps he has turned it around though, its possible.
But to label him “good” at anything is dubious given his record so far.
April 30th, 2018 at 12:28 pm
Tony,
If you have any doubts about d Smith watch the raiders game. K Mack destroys Jameis is the name of a you tube highlights reel . Warning …It’s hard to watch.
I don’t know where you came up with the idea that those corners are “scheme dependent” zone defenders. First, everyone is scheme dependent so that’s flat out meaningless gibber jabber. Second, and more importantly both those guys are better man defenders. Maybe just maybe, the fact that they chose those guys would seem to indicate m Smith wants the option to call more man coverage.
Otherwise, I agree with your overall idea .
April 30th, 2018 at 1:19 pm
Cmon joe, this is a troll article. Listing all those players picked after stewart just to get the crazies up in a frenzy. Making the all rookie team not a career makes. Just ask michael clayton or cadillac williams.
April 30th, 2018 at 1:51 pm
Did we really fix the trenches, it’s more like a bandaid, Allen is 26, the rest are all 29 or older, Jpp 8.5 sacks, Curry 3, GMC 6, Allen 3, Urein 2, Vea ?? pass rush ability, gonna be riding in the same boat next year, we need an infusion of young talent like draft picks, only 1 DE (Spence is 3-4 edge LB sized) in 5 drafts is laughable, it’s pathetic, I get it Licht is only worried about this year but he really needs to get young DEs to develop asap
April 30th, 2018 at 2:14 pm
Licht has blown through the developmental stage.
The fourth year expansion bucs went to the championship game for goodness sake.
April 30th, 2018 at 2:22 pm
From his film he’s a real good tight coverage corner. I’m excited to see what he can do in the slot.
April 30th, 2018 at 2:22 pm
Guzzie,
I agree with you in part, we do need to draft a DE, the problem is that this year was very thin at the the position. So it’s DO you take a much lower rated player because He’s a d end or go with another player at a different position who is higher rated? Basically it’s not like the team bypassed picking a great d end because there was only one. He was off the board before the Bucs had a pick.
Bottom line is just because you want a d end it doesn’t mean that they will magically appear. If you think for a second, Jason signed veterans who can buy time until the draft has a better selection at the position.
April 30th, 2018 at 2:22 pm
Next years draft much stronger at DE.
I’m guessing we grab 2 in a stronger pool as we let some older dudes go. Pretty logical and many DEs play strong into their early 30s it’s not like the RB position
April 30th, 2018 at 2:34 pm
@Lord Corn
OT, DT, S, CB, DE in 2019. In that order.
April 30th, 2018 at 3:04 pm
@ soebuc
What he11 are you talking about? There may not be a OT worth taking before a hghly rated d end or cb. Locking yourself in an order is when you over draft a player. Come on, you are better than that.
April 30th, 2018 at 4:41 pm
Comparing the 40 time to game speed is stupid. Who had the fastest time last year John Ross one of the most irreverent rookies last year. The fact that you are using combined numbers for your arguments just speaks to how much you don’t know
April 30th, 2018 at 6:09 pm
Hey Wausa, Calista Flockhart once cracked Terrell Owens’ teeth in a brutal hit on a slant route. She was bedlam as a special teams gunner, too
April 30th, 2018 at 9:18 pm
Lakeland,
Stewart and Davis ran the same 40 times as the “fast” guys. The idea that they’re slow is just another example of how someone wants to seem smart by wizzing into the wind. Contrarians are lazy phucs by nature, …. ..
But in this case , being wrong is a great thing because the team didn’t get slow guys like you think….
Unfortunately, that doesn’t apply to the fraction of buc fans who are currently institutionalized. Nor to the group that rides the lil bus to school. They’re still slow.
May 1st, 2018 at 1:48 am
We had the chance to take Oliver with our last 2nd round pick and we traded it away. That’s why I won’t feel bad for Licht when he gets fired next year when we go 5-11 again. Stupid, stupid decision, the Bucs will be paying the price of not drafting him for years to come.
May 1st, 2018 at 4:15 am
Josh,
Why is it stupid? If you are paying attention to Jason L’ s statements regarding the type of player He wants you’ll understand how/why Oliver wasn’t picked.
Because two things stand out again and again w Oliver….He’s not that against the run and He lacks intensity or doesn’t play w an attitude. No one, not a single one, will say that about the CB’s JL picked. Listen….The guys Jason’s bringing in are guys that he hopes change the culture . Oliver isn’t that kinda guy.
Now that’s what is what, ?????
May 1st, 2018 at 1:12 pm
This pick was worse than the Vea pick. Justin Evans like pick last year. And Evans was bad last year. Rookies are rookies. Will not be surprised if a UDA beats this guy out.