“It’s Going To Be Kind Of A Win-Now Type Of A Situation”
April 3rd, 2018
Talks Bucs vibe.
Last week when Bucs co-chairman Joel Glazer graciously granted Joe an on-the-record conversation about the team, Glazer categorized the national NFL media perception that Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht, currently in the final year of his contract, has a win-or-else mandate to be “oversimplifying.”
It seems new Bucs center Ryan Jensen senses something else.
At least when it comes to the team.
Yesterday Jensen hopped on “The Blitz”, co-hosted by Brady Quinn and A.J. Hawk, heard exclusively on SiriusXM NFL Radio, and he said one reason he chose the Bucs over the Colts after the free agency dinner bell rang was the feeling he got the Bucs are in a win-now mode.
“Looking at Tampa Bay’s roster, we’ve got a lot of young talent,” Jensen said. “We just signed Mike Evans back and everything like that, so I just felt Tampa, the way things are going there, that it’s going to be kind of a win-now type of a situation. And I thrive in that kind of situation.”
Another interesting nugget Jensen dropped, he said another selling point to coming to the Bucs was the revamped offensive was moving to more of a a power-oriented blocking scheme.
Well, this just solidifies Joe’s belief that the Bucs will draft Quenton Nelson at No. 7 if he is on the board, and if you have a power-blocking scheme, wouldn’t that mean the team would want a power back who can run between the tackles?
Sure smells like Derrius Guice to Joe.
April 3rd, 2018 at 8:06 am
Can’t belive Guice will be there at #38. On the other hand, it’s the draft, so let’s see. But we’d need to get defenisve help from other sources in that scenario.
April 3rd, 2018 at 8:09 am
I am OK with solidifying another major component of the team…rather than a hodge podge of a little here and little over there….the offense have certainly gotten most of the attention….that said defense is easier to plug and play…we’ll see soon enough
April 3rd, 2018 at 8:17 am
Oh man. I could faint. The smashmouth power running scheme is coming to fruition.
April 3rd, 2018 at 8:17 am
Adding Nelson would make our OL unstoppable… Should Smith still be questionable we will be able to double team to assist him against more premium pass rushers. I also have noticed no one is talking about a good line mixed with OJ Howard… We could have a truly formidable pass pro and run blocking group.
April 3rd, 2018 at 8:19 am
Good with Nelson and Guice–that would be awesome!
Love to get Saquon or Chubb also
It’s just with Nelson we have the potential to have the best offensive line in the league and that dynamic changes everything.
April 3rd, 2018 at 8:26 am
Solidify the o-line is the strategically smart move for a long term contender. The Patriots make RBs look like franchise players every year only to let them walk and replace them with the next man up.
April 3rd, 2018 at 8:30 am
It’s been “win now” since Lovie Smith was fired.
April 3rd, 2018 at 8:31 am
LG Quenton Nelson
C Ryan Jensen
RG Ali Marpet
With Derrius Guice, Sony Michel, Kerryon Johnson or Kalen Ballage, running behind that line ….SMH….Lawd Lawd Lawd.
Sh!t U can C.J Anderson or DeMarco Murray to that list too.
April 3rd, 2018 at 8:32 am
Peyton Barber is very good between the tackles. The other Auburn kid is also a prize.
April 3rd, 2018 at 8:33 am
I don’t think Nelson falls to 7, but certainly would take him if he did. Checking the O-Line block on the need list is huge for Jameis and running game. joe, not to change the subject but I notice Tampa now ranks 20th in available cap space. Dropped from 8 on Friday. Are we beginning to see impact of FA signings and Evans deal?
April 3rd, 2018 at 8:37 am
Horse Liver
Yeah hopefully when pick-up Kamryn Pettway or Ralph Webb.
If they hit the UDFA list
April 3rd, 2018 at 8:40 am
The addition of Nelson would permit us to cut Sweezy freeing up some cap to purchase a CB……We go Nelson, RB…….DB, DE, DE……
April 3rd, 2018 at 8:46 am
Don’t sleep on Bo Scarborough with the 4 pick
He is a faster more instinctive L Blount
When healthy he is dominant
April 3rd, 2018 at 8:49 am
Most likely if 2 of the Big three fall because 4 QB’s drafted, then we will see either the Guard of the RB fall to the Bucs!!!! If the draft turns out a Guard and Running back or Running back and Guard from the first two draft picks, then the offense must produce an avg of at least 25 pts per game!!!! While the defense expectation will be lowered due to being ignored in the draft once again!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 3rd, 2018 at 9:00 am
Thats been my dream draft since the very beginning. Nelson please
April 3rd, 2018 at 9:06 am
@Realist- That was the expectation last year. AND, it doesn’t necessarily have to score 25+ a game if we are to believe it will be a “power” run game. This is why I feel the way I do about coaching last year. It is not solely on the DC to put the defense in favorable conditions. There were many instances where the offense put the defense in bad spots last year. No one gets a pass Realist, NOBODY! They better figure it out.
Incidentally, I am foaming at the mouth at the thought of the Bucs utilizing a power game. “Passing league” my a$$!!
April 3rd, 2018 at 9:11 am
TBR
• Jason Pierre-Paul – DE – $12,500,000
• Vinny Curry -DE – $6,500,000
• Beau Allen – DT – $5,000,000
• Mitch Unrein – DT – $3,000,000
Total Capspace Spent: $26M
+ We surrendered a 3rd Round Pick In the JJP trade.
That’s pretty significant investment – don’t U think?
Sure there’s a few more additions – that need tol be made.
But we’re well on our way.
April 3rd, 2018 at 9:13 am
Sure there’s a few more additions – that need to be made.
Veteran Corner & Safety
But we’re well on our way.
April 3rd, 2018 at 9:16 am
I like the idea of Nelson and Guice. Man it would be such a mistake to not use a premium pick on defense tho. Well said.–Joe
April 3rd, 2018 at 9:21 am
Smash mouth football??
Can someone tell me the numberous teams that play “smash mouth” running offense….maybe dallas did it 1 year in the last 20 years? (Of course dallas couldnt sustain it)
Does the BucSheep watch other teams in the NFL? Did the Bucsheep just wakeup from coma from the 1970’s
Who had a smash moth offense last year
NO ONE!
The modern day defensive talent and overal defensive speed will and has destroyed the “smash mouth” running offense of the i formation of the 70’s
Kobe Faker
April 3rd, 2018 at 9:25 am
A power back that can’t lower his head at all on contact. I hope that dude has strong legs.
April 3rd, 2018 at 9:34 am
Going first two picks on offense would continue the mistake the Bucs have made. Ignoring the defense. Licht has drafted 18 offensive players. 8 defensive players in 4 years.
April 3rd, 2018 at 9:39 am
Wow Joe… That’s not a very good picture of Jensen. He kind of looks like Chunk from the goonies. HEY YOU GUYS!!!
April 3rd, 2018 at 9:46 am
Stick with round ball Kobe. Of the Top 10 rushing teams in the NFL in 2017-2018 , 9 of the 10 were in the playoffs , Nuff said.
April 3rd, 2018 at 9:51 am
@REALIST……..DID YOU HEAR THAT!!!!!!…..OH NO!!!!!!!!!…….the bucs are in WIN NOW MODE!!!!!!!…….no more patience!!!!!……no more excuses!!!!!!!!……
licht has provided the offense and defensive lines with talent and depth and he aint done yet!!!!!!!!….more will be added in the draft!!!!!!!…..the pressure is on the coaching staff!!!!!!…..they are on the hot seat and licht is making them feel the heat!!!!!!!!……the coaching staff wont get a pass this year!!!!!!!!……no playoffs!!!….no job!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 3rd, 2018 at 9:55 am
Nice quote. It sounds like the guy wants to win. But we have heard cheap words before. Still like the signing at this point. Hope I’m not let down.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:05 am
I think Jason Licht might stay, even if we don’t win this year, especially if we have a good draft.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:09 am
I wouldn’t be upset with Nelson and Guice. Might have to trade up for Guice, though.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:09 am
How do so many saying “you gotta take defense -you gotta take defense” not understand the importance of taking the best player available so high in the 1st rd??
Example – Draft goes 1 QB, 2 Chubb, 3 QB, 4. Barkley, 5 James, 6. QB
at #7 with no good trade down offers are you drafting Quenton Nelson or Denzel Ward/Minkah Fitzpatrick?
Duh – its a no brainer. You take the generational prospect at a position of relative need all day every day instead of the “good” prospect at a position of extreme need. Unless you are Mark Dominic that is….
If Nelson is available at #7 you take him. If Barkley is available at 7 you – trade down – I kid (maybe) – no you take him. If a certified blue chip, 5 star prospect is available at a position of relative need – you Fing DRAFT HIM and then celebrate.
Licht knows this Thank God. That’s why OJ Howard is a Buccaneer instead of Taco Charlton…
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:09 am
We have been in win mode for what 10 years now? Nothing new. Let’s stop talking and eat some Ws. August can’t come fast enough for me
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:10 am
Here’s an interesting question, what if Nelson and Barkley are both there @ 7, who do we pick? with the upgrades on o-line id say Barkley and look for our G spot in later rounds, but Nelson with our o-line upgrades could make a good back look great…..hmmm?
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:11 am
I’m out of Nelson camp. It’s an absolute absurd idea. We gotta go defense. Chubb will be off and if u can’t trade down draft Davenport or Truimane Edwards
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:16 am
Minkah Fitz us the best….at seven (since Nelson, Chubb, and/or Barkley all likely to be off the board).
Then I’d take Isaiah Olver. Can you imagine the Buccs’ secondary with those two? We’d immediately start locking down opposing offensive passing attacks.
Then go Royce Freeman/Penny…if we decide to trade back into the third.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:17 am
I would be more than happy with Quenton Nelson at 7. Or, if we trade back, I would love RT Mike McGlinchey later in the draft to work in as a replacement for Dotson (who is on a one year deal, so they obviously want to replace him soon).
But if we don’t take DL with our first pick, we have to take it with our second one in my book.
I could care less about CB this year. There are plenty of CB free agents out there. Good ones that can buy us another year. If we get Nelson, we can cut Sweezy to sign one.
RB? I’m fine with 4th round and a free agent, if we can scrounge up the cash.
Two teams spent more than the cap last year, and they were not penalized for it. If we have to, we can do it this year.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:21 am
@Joe1 … “Well, this just solidifies Joe’s belief that the Bucs will draft Quenton Nelson at No. 7 if he is on the board.”
@Joe2 … “Now Joe isn’t trying to suggest this Nelson will be a bust, but the Bucs have much bigger needs than a guard at No. 7.
Yup, got it. Clear as mud.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:22 am
Round 1 Nelson
Round 2 Chubb or Michel (Chubb was the man before the injury)
Two TE sets with that interior OL we should shred on the ground.
Pistol
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:22 am
^^I’d take I. Oliver…who might be the best CB in this draft over Jackson, Hughes, Ward, etc. If we land him in the early second it would be a really nice value with solid floor and ceiling.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:23 am
Evolvingbucfan Says
“Here’s an interesting question, what if Nelson and Barkley are both there @ 7, who do we pick?”
If they don’t take Nelson in that situation, then they have to rely on Sweezy this year (Marpet is being moved to the other side, which I think is a huge mistake). If they take Nelson, they can cut Sweezy and free up about $5m for free agents. We can get a CB and RB in free agency IF we free up the money…and draft a RB in later rounds.
Personally?
I prefer to take RB Dimitri Flowers later. He’s hard hitting, more of a fullback. We have WRs to stretch the field. We have speedy guys already. I think we need a RB who can pound hard and get first downs and touchdowns, pass block and break the occasional 25 yarder.
That’s Flowers.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:23 am
Buccs were at Oliver’s pro-day/workout, so he is at least on their radar.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:25 am
BTW, Joe…could you PLEASE find a better picture? I’m not a Carrot Top fan at all…
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:26 am
Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says
“I think Jason Licht might stay, even if we don’t win this year, especially if we have a good draft.”
Exactly.
And I will add that if the offense progresses and is Top Ten overall, Koetter will stay as well, regardless of whether we have a winning record (but I think we will have a winning record).
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:27 am
Hahahaha…..First the Taco Charlton quote got me going then Evolving follows that up saying that the Bucs should worry about finding the G spot later
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:28 am
Free agent corners rarely work-out….at least in the Buccs case, but seemingly in general overall. Yes, you can find an rb in the scrap heap, but Barkley is going to be the exception. He’s in the mold of Tomlinson, just a rare breed at the rb who has it all (size, speed, quickness, power, elusiveness). Keep in mind that most of Barkley’s negative runs were because he played behind a terrible offensive line. Tampa is developing one of the best olines in the league….it would be scary for other teams with him in our backfield. I’d be happy with Nelson or Barkley…and get the, “rbs will only give five great years of production compared to ten from guards” but Barkley is a game changer.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:28 am
Dotson has 2 years left on his contract Bonzai. But he’s also turning 33 in Oct so yea – we need to be looking for his legit replacement. This is not a very good draft for Tackles though so they are likely to be over-drafted this year.
It IS a good draft for CBs. And CB is currently our biggest need aside from a good RB. If we don’t draft a CB in rds 1 or 2 – there will still be some pretty good prospects available with our 2nd pick of the 4th rd I believe.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:29 am
I think Safety is a secondary (scuse the pun) need. I think a CB, RB, OL and DL are the top needs. And it just so happens that there is one of each at the top of the rankings (for what the rankings are worth)…and at least 2-3 will be there for us at 7.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:31 am
G spot RB rounds 1&2 completes the offense….For 5his year and for the long future.
It also allows us to cut Sweezy. Then use his money to add to the secondary. IMO drafting Nelson at 7 is like drafting a guard and a DB because of the ripple effect.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:32 am
Feelthepewter…….Grimes?
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:32 am
Pickgrin Says
“Dotson has 2 years left on his contract Bonzai.”
I could swear they extended him this year. Maybe the extension was for next year though. Bucs would save 4.8m by cutting him next year though. (they could save 4.6m by cutting him this year after the draft I think)
(btw, NFL. Com draft secotion got revamped yesterday)
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:36 am
Bonzai, safety might be the second most important position in today’s nfl on defense because of the passing evolvement. Corners mainly only have to cover a quarter of the field, where as safety has to cover over half… Fitz can play anywhere in our secondary, but he’d be a domiant free safety and force qb’s off some throws (that type of thing doesnt show up in the stat book). Fitz can also lock down receivers at corner if need be….hes got the size, and recovery speed to matchup with any size and speed receiver…..plus the great instincts and ball hawking intangibles you want to see in a DB. He’s got all pro written all over him….
see the analysis made by Brett Kollerman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHmdoPB3SN4
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April 3rd, 2018 at 10:38 am
Current FA CBs:
• Bashaud Breeland (26)
• Davon House (28)
• Delvin Breaux (28)
• Adam Jones (34)
• Dontae Johnson (26)
• Byron Maxwell (30)
• Leonard Johnson (28)
• Jeremy Lane (27)
• Robert McClain (29)
• Alterraun Verner (29)
• Terence Newman (39)
• Marcus Williams (27)
• William Gay (33)
• Darrelle Revis (32)
• Brice McCain (31)
• Sterling Moore (28)
• Darryl Morris (27)
• Brandon Boykin (27)
• Sheldon Price (27)
• Asa Jackson (28)
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:41 am
JimmyJack Says:
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:32 am
Feelthepewter…….Grimes?
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Grimes is the exception. Outside of Grimes can you think of any others? We paid a lot for Eric Wright and he was an absolute bust.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:41 am
feelthepewterpower Says
“Bonzai, safety might be the second most important position in today’s nfl on defense because of the passing evolvement.”
I agree we need an upgrade, but we also already have those spots filled for the year with Conte and Justin Evans. I know, Conte is only so-so…not bad but not great…but he is good enough for the year, especially if we have a pass rush.
And Justin Evans had a good rookie year. He could be the permanent safety at his spot if he takes a step forward.
I’m not saying Safety is not a need…just that if we needed to, we could put it off a year.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:42 am
Just because you have a good oline doesn’t meant your going to run the Bud Wilkinson offense.
get a good running game going it opens up play action, and would help in Winston not running for his life every other play.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:43 am
We aren’t drafting Fitz. If we are going Safety – Derwin James will be the pick. If we are going CB – Ward will be the pick.
Fitz is a nice utility tool but we already have FS and slot CB covered.
Fitz damn sure ain’t the next Jalen Ramsey.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:46 am
Feelthepewter…….Personally I don’t compare separate regimes. Licht has has personal control for 2 offseasons(now3) and has brought in two FA corners, to my recollection. Grimes and McClain. Both were successful in their respective roles IMO.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:47 am
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:41 am
feelthepewterpower Says
“Bonzai, safety might be the second most important position in today’s nfl on defense because of the passing evolvement.”
I agree we need an upgrade, but we also already have those spots filled for the year with Conte and Justin Evans. I know, Conte is only so-so…not bad but not great…but he is good enough for the year, especially if we have a pass rush.
And Justin Evans had a good rookie year. He could be the permanent safety at his spot if he takes a step forward.
I’m not saying Safety is not a need…just that if we needed to, we could put it off a year.
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The Buccs had Cameron Brate and still drafted OJ Howard. Mike Smith is also on record saying you can’t have enough (free) safeties in today’s NFL. Minkah likely is the BPA at seven. Like mentioned, you can play Fitz anywhere in the secondary, even in the box, he’s that versatile.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:48 am
@feelthepewterpower
You have a point about the Free Agent CBs not working out in Tampa…but I’m not ready to give up on our young guys just yet either. Smith just played his first year at CB in the NFL. So it was basically his rookie year. His speed will improve as he learns the system.
Seeing how VHIII responds to last season is what will determine his fate. We don’t know yet how he will respond, so its too soon to write him off. Lots of player take steps back during their sophomore years. It;s how they respond that tells us how they will do in their careers. That’s why it takes 3 years to truly evaluate players.
Drafting one is a good idea…at least later in the draft. Signing one would be an insurance plan in case we need it for this year.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:49 am
Pickgrin…..What you mean Fitz ain’t the next Ramsey? Just curious since you said you’re damn sure.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:50 am
@feelthepewterpower
You might be right. He might draft a safety. I just think we have greater needs early in the draft (the lines). I would take safety over Barkley though.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:50 am
JimmyJack Says:
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:46 am
Feelthepewter…….Personally I don’t compare separate regimes. Licht has has personal control for 2 offseasons(now3) and has brought in two FA corners, to my recollection. Grimes and McClain. Both were successful in their respective roles IMO.
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The Buccs had one of the worst passes defenses in history under Licht’s watch. McClain still isn’t signed, and as much as like Grimes he is what, 36? May not last the whole season. Free Agents corners are usually bandaids at best, we must get younger and improve the position through the draft. I think we’d all agree on this.
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:53 am
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
April 3rd, 2018 at 10:50 am
@feelthepewterpower
You might be right. He might draft a safety. I just think we have greater needs early in the draft (the lines). I would take safety over Barkley though.
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Barkley is the BPA if he’s there at seven which seems like a pipe dream. The only way the Buccs get him, imo, is trading up but I would not trade up, even to get what I think will be one of the best rb’s to come out in recent memory….yes, better than zeke, gurley, fournette, even Lev. Bell etc.
April 3rd, 2018 at 11:00 am
Regarding, VH3, Bonzai… I see the talent. The guy has one of the smoothest hips from a corner that you want to see, and he has great ball instincts. I am higher on Vernon than the majority of Buccs fans, even with his recent mary jane accusations, ha. Corner is one of the hardest positions in the league to come in and master right away, so I am more patient than the usual fan. I just dont understand why he plays so far off his man in coverage, especially given his height/wingspan. He plays his best when he is playing press and playing more aggressive.
April 3rd, 2018 at 11:00 am
Feelthepewter…..Agree with you totally about that. But I also think that’s a tall order this draft.
I don’t know much about the prospects but many believe Ward is not worthy of #7. In round 2 the G spot and RB prospects may be too great to pass on. I’m completely against drafting for need. We may be looking at a round 4-5 CB.
Our best opportunity might be to trade down but that’s not really a true option until the actual draft and however it shakes out.
April 3rd, 2018 at 11:01 am
I think some of his issues could be due to scheme….soft zone, and as well the lack of pressure we’ve had on a quarterback. His game should improve this season, and I think he will get his confidence back….we shall see.
April 3rd, 2018 at 11:04 am
@Kobe Faker- You must have your head in the sand my friend. “Smash Mouth” is alive and well. 34 of 47 Super Bowl Champions have had top 10 rushing attacks. Eagles #3, Patriots #10: Patriots #7, Falcons #5: Broncos #17, Panthers #2: Patriots #18, Seahawks #1: Seahawks #4, Broncos #15: Ravens #11, 49ers #4 and on and on and on………
A legit rushing attack is a NECESSITY in today’s NFL whether YOU care to acknowledge it or not!
April 3rd, 2018 at 11:07 am
JimmyJack Says:
April 3rd, 2018 at 11:00 am
Feelthepewter…..Agree with you totally about that. But I also think that’s a tall order this draft.
I don’t know much about the prospects but many believe Ward is not worthy of #7. In round 2 the G spot and RB prospects may be too great to pass on. I’m completely against drafting for need. We may be looking at a round 4-5 CB.
Our best opportunity might be to trade down but that’s not really a true option until the actual draft and however it shakes out.
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I agree with you no Ward and drafting for need. I take BPA, but if it also fills a need then its like getting an additional coupon on a sale item. I just don’t see a dominant corner in Ward ala Lattimore (who didnt go top ten last year, no?) and Ramsey who went six or seven I believe the year before….you have to be an elite corner for me to pull the trigger.
Rb is tricky…and like you said the Buccs might be forced to try and take one in the second or late first…which isnt a position you want to be in. I still think we can get a solid rb early middle rounds….like a Royce Freeman but then again the regime might be feeling the pressure if they wait to long and yet another rb doesnt pan out.
April 3rd, 2018 at 11:15 am
Pewter…..It is a tough call with RBs. But I don’t think they make draft picks based on pressure. I think they have their draft board and will stick too it. RB looks like a very big hole right now but I think they left roster room at that position for a reason. It will be interesting to see what they do there but I could see us drafting 2 backs if we land a Barkley or maybe Guice.
If they don’t get a RB until the later rounds maybe they bring in an experienced player to fill the roster void.
April 3rd, 2018 at 11:19 am
Jimmy – I’m saying Ramsey made the transition from College Safety to NFL outside CB look easy.
That will not be the case for Minkah IMO. He needs to stay at Safety. Free Safety specifically. Thus is not a good fit for the Bucs because we already have a young, fast, talented Free Safety in Justin Evans.
Derwin James is a natural SS and a better choice for our needs than Fitz.
Denzel Ward is a natural outside CB and a better choice for our needs than Fitz.
That’s what I’m saying.
April 3rd, 2018 at 11:29 am
I hope we draft Ward. We don’t need a guard.
April 3rd, 2018 at 11:36 am
If they wanna get Nelson in the first and a RB in the second, they need to resign McClaine and sign Leonard Johnson. THIS CB SITUATION IS RIDICULOUS!!!!!!! Old ass Grimes (missed 7 games last year), Ryan Smith (Waaay not worthy of a good #2 CB), and VH3 (no one has a clue what he can do). AND NO DEPTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But I am also a strong believer that they are going to trade back in the first for a DT/DE and CB in the first. Koetter is known for not getting RBs early on in the draft so I don’t think they’re going to pick one up in the first with an extra first round pick. Not Michel maybe if it’s a very late round pick). I didn’t like the resigning of Grimes for so much money but if they can bring in Ward/Johnson or possibly Hughes in the late first/early second for Grimes to teach them, it would make me happier.
Have no clue why no “Glue Guys” at CB have been signed. Especially McClaine.
April 3rd, 2018 at 11:37 am
All this premium pick for defense stuff is overrated. Great players at CB and S come out of the later part of the draft with great regularity. Im not trustimg a rookie CB no matter who it is in this defense. The offense is further along. They spend all this money resigning their own guys on O and they got the QB they want. A run game will put the offense over the top and give this team a legitimate strength, the offense. Nelson and Guice is a dream situation
April 3rd, 2018 at 11:40 am
Ahh OK Pickgrin….I’ve heard a lot of analysts saying the same about Fitzpatrick. I don’t know how the Bucs would use him if they drafted him but we would have to believe they have a plan if they went that way, right?
If they did draft Fitz I’d be stoked because he has been touted as the better prospect over James…….Early on in the offseason I was hearing “The Big Four”……..now it is “The Big Three”
Not sure what to make of that but I believe that a lot of these rankings change as the experts get more insite from the actual GMs.
April 3rd, 2018 at 11:50 am
Joe my dude. Can you please do an article about the myth Tampa fans have about Brent Grimes durability? Please, I beg of you. I’m so sick and tired of looking up his stats everytime some random fan makes up BS about him.
To growing trend is that he isn’t durable. I’ve yet to hear any fan explain how they come to that conclusion but when I look up his statistics it sounds like some made up BS…….Now the myth has grown strong enough that SOE above me is just making up facts(he didn’t miss 7 games last year).
SOE, if that was a typo then I apoligize. But the “Brent Grimes isn’t durable” myth is alive in Tampa and growing strong. Fans claiming this either need to explain their claims or keep their yaps shut.
April 3rd, 2018 at 11:57 am
🙂
It’s a free agent who took the highest offer in a no-income-tax state, albeit with good intentions.
The ONLY thing all this says…is SA-QUON BARKLEY. Yesssirrr!
Go Bucs! Go Bold! Go Barkley! Go Primetime!
April 3rd, 2018 at 12:02 pm
Get off the freakin wire FSU fans.
We sure as hell aren’t taking James at #7 and if it came down to 10-15 spot and Ward and James were both still on the board, it would be Ward (one would hope) with this ridiculous CB situation.
April 3rd, 2018 at 12:07 pm
Don’t get set up with all of the Spin Buc fans. The Hype is starting. God knows we been rebuilding since..Kingdom Come!! Win Now is just a phrase. Everybody is sayin it. I need to see the product on the field. Until then..its all just conjecture.
Every GD yr we talk big and deliver..very small. Winning is all that matters.
April 3rd, 2018 at 12:09 pm
Agree wholeheartedly, Joe.
Q. Nelson is the smartest possible pick the Bucs could make.
One that will benefit them for YEARS.
FIX THE TRENCHES, FIX THE BUCS!!
April 3rd, 2018 at 1:51 pm
We just signed the Super Bowl Champion DL. LOL
Seriously though…we just signed two starting….one star..DE…we just signed two DT’s who were solid performers….that’s four new players on our DL…a desperate situation has now gone from desperation to a need for me. We have several needs.
Our OL is getting really close…Nelson could really complete it. It’s not just the massive size or athleticism we’d have in the middle three…all of them have reps as nasty players and the video of Jensen wreaking vengeance on a guy who hit his QB late. Imagine 3 300+ lbers who are jerks in the middle….
I think Nelson may be that assssswhole so many here yearn for. Given that we know Jensen is a jerk and Ali is also a mauler…the attitude set for the entire offense would be perfect. Think Jameis would like that style of play….not the guy who tried to fight a DL in one game….he would blossom big time with that terrible threesome anchoring the middle. It’s good to have a little ‘tude.
April 3rd, 2018 at 1:56 pm
Dubcity06
“All this premium pick for defense stuff is overrated. Great players at CB and S come out of the later part of the draft with great regularity. Im not trustimg a rookie CB no matter who it is in this defense.”
“Nelson and Guice is a dream situation.”
I’m sure as hell trusting Denzel Ward or Joshua Jackson over Ryan Smith and VH3 (on the outside). Nelson and Guice is not a dream situation. Nelson would be awesome but adding Guice does not equal a dream. And this draft is stacked with good RBs so we don’t need to get Michel/Guice in the second if we get Nelson in the first. If anything getting Nelson gives us more space to wait to get a RB.
April 3rd, 2018 at 7:20 pm
Take a chance on that other auburn kid maybe 3rd round? Or trade down and back up? We know barber will likely be better with the upgrades on the line so I don’t see rb as a high pick making sense. Actually nothing on this team makes.sense so that would fit perfectly with what they do here