Could Carlos Hyde Get Back In Play?
April 15th, 2018
We know from Dirk Koetter himself that the Bucs chased at least one high-profile running back in free agency last month but backed out as the price escalated.
We also know there’s a strong chance the Browns draft Saquon Barkley.
Cleveland owns the Nos. 1 and 4 overall picks in the draft next week. And nearly every draft guru on the planet believes Barkley is the best talent available in the draft — a true three-down running back with more game than Ezekiel Elliott when he was a prospect.
So what if the Browns draft Barkley?
They already have 24-year-old Duke Johnson on the roster, one of the most versatile backs in the NFL. He had 74 receptions and 4.2 yards per carry last year, racking up more than 1,000 yards from scrimmage.
And the Browns just paid pounding and proven running back Carlos Hyde to a three-year $15.25 million contract in free agency. Hyde is a true No. 1 running back and simply does not fit with Barkley on the roster.
If that draft scenario plays out, Joe would smell opportunity. Perhaps the Browns would take the Bucs’ fourth-round pick next year in exchange for Hyde?
A deal like that would be win-win for both teams. And maybe Hyde was on the Bucs’ radar in March, as Koetter noted. A quick look at Hyde’s contract shows the Bucs could get out of it after this season with minimal consequences, and they still could draft a running back in the late rounds this year.
April 15th, 2018 at 8:17 pm
The more I think about it, the more I think the Browns won’t take Barkley with Hyde in the fold.
April 15th, 2018 at 8:18 pm
Should bring in Reuben Foster. He and Jameis know how to treat women.
April 15th, 2018 at 8:20 pm
I think Browns take QB and Giants draft Barkley.
April 15th, 2018 at 8:22 pm
Let’s draft a RB, they’re a dime a dozen now and not worth the pay
April 15th, 2018 at 8:40 pm
Or how about the Bucs just draft Barkley and let the Browns keep Hyde.
April 15th, 2018 at 8:46 pm
Sounds like Barkley will go to Giants
April 15th, 2018 at 8:56 pm
Aristotle, tell that to the 2017 buccaneers. Or any fan that had to witness such god awful rb play.
April 15th, 2018 at 8:57 pm
There is no such thing as enough talented RBs on a team, but while they easily could afford to take Saquon I highly doubt they will. They are going QB at 1 and probably Chubb or trade down at 4.
April 15th, 2018 at 9:02 pm
Reminds me of last year.
Licht signed Desean Jackson- and we all thought he we address the teams issues!
But he didnt. He stopped, with tons of money in the bank- and gaping holes at DE, RB, CB, Etc.
And of course- the team sucked again. As usual.
We have money left.
And more holes than the draft can fill.
He needs to get off his butt- and sign two more vets.
Im sick of this team playing with obvious deficiencies- And money in the bank.
If he signed a CB and a Guard- then the draft gets much more manageable
Dont have to be superstars. Just solid vets- we can upgrade them next year.
Then we can focus on a RB and a safety innthe draft
Or if he signs A RB and a safety? Safety and CB?
We gave a 1st and a 2nd round pick. Cant fill four holes on the team
Spend the damn money
April 15th, 2018 at 9:04 pm
Why would Licht trade a pretty valuable draft pick to get a RB that he had already decided the price tag became too high on in the 1st place???
That makes absolutely no sense. So what – now we are going to pay more than Licht wanted to for the player AND give up the 2nd pick in the 4th Rd??? Joe said next year’s (2019) fourth rounder, not this year’s. And, there’s a great chance Licht, if he liked Hyde, was being cautious to make sure he had the money to get the job done at defensive line and bowed out of the Hyde chase when it was going down on short notice at the start of free agency. Of course, there’s always a chance Hyde preferred Cleveland. You made a lot of assumptions.–Joe
Joe has the weirdest ideas about how to “improve” the team sometimes.
April 15th, 2018 at 9:11 pm
I would be willing to trade a 5th or 6th for Hyde. If we can’t trade back, we will need the 4th. If you trade the 4th, then you make Cleveland pay part of his salary.
April 15th, 2018 at 9:12 pm
“Have a first and second round”
April 15th, 2018 at 9:16 pm
That’s more of an indication they are passing on Barkley.. I bet the trade down and take LT McGlinchy. Or reach for him at 4.
April 15th, 2018 at 9:23 pm
Lol are you saying that there signing of Carlos Hyde was a smoke screen? Hahaha when has Cleveland ever been known to take the best player on the available? I think with the two running backs they don’t have a need for Barkley. Fans, media and draft freaks think they have it right but Nelson or Chubb could easily be the pick at 4 especially after Joe Thomas retired.
April 15th, 2018 at 9:25 pm
Intelligent analysis Pickgrin
April 15th, 2018 at 9:35 pm
I wouldn’t give up next year’s 4th round pick for Hyde especially if they draft Barkley. The Bucs would be doing them a favor by helping them clear some cap space because as a #4 pick Barkley will be making a decent about of money for a RB.
April 15th, 2018 at 9:41 pm
Joe is talking about 4th round 2019
April 15th, 2018 at 10:15 pm
If we’d offered Hyde the same exact terms as Cleveland, he definitely have come here. No state income tax and we may not be a more desired location compared to anyone else, but we are to Cleveland.
So now we should give up a fourth next year to what we already passed on earlier?
April 15th, 2018 at 10:16 pm
Geese, Pickgrin. Sorry. I usually read your stuff if I don’t read any others.
April 15th, 2018 at 10:50 pm
If they have Hyde, do they even draft a running back that high?
April 15th, 2018 at 10:52 pm
I don’t like the idea of getting rid of picks
The Bucs need cap space for extensions on Marpet, Alexander, Smith and Winston.
If anything the Bucs need more draft picks so they can have more rookie contracts
April 15th, 2018 at 10:55 pm
Screw that nonsense. We need to plan for the future get our running back in the draft. If Koetter doesn’t want to train him tell him to pack up his office. 2018 no more excuses!
April 16th, 2018 at 1:45 am
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I just can’t believe the Browns will be stupid enough to draft a RB, even one as awesome as Saquon, at #4, rather than trade that pick to the Bills for #12, #22 and more … and if the Bills happen to move up to #2, then trade that pick to the Cardinals for a boat load of picks.
I still have my mock the same as it’s been for quite a while, with the first 4 picks being QBs, the 5th being either Chubb or Denzel Ward and the 6th being either Chubb, Ward or Watson … I think Saquon will be there at #7 for the Bucs.
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April 16th, 2018 at 3:43 am
5 million a year for Hyde? Are you crazy??!!
Or a few hundred thousand a year for a 3rd or 4th round RB?
Lets stick with a young RB who is cheap!
Or even 5 million over 4 years for a 2nd round RB!!
Carlos Hyde is wayyyyy too expensive for us!
April 16th, 2018 at 4:41 am
The Bucs don’t want Hyde anymore. On to the draft.
April 16th, 2018 at 7:42 am
This is written objectively and fairly by a loyal Bucs fan.
Apparently….@Pickgrin made “a lot of assumptions”, and apparently those are “bad/not allowed”. When an article is written, if it’s not adhered to as fact and prescient, then there’s well,…an unfavorable reaction, not to mention the article’s analytical weight evaluation. Let’s all look at the specifics.
Some of @Joe’s statements above.
“So what if the Browns draft Barkley?”—Assumption #1 (They might not draft him and might need to fill the gaping hole at LT now that Joe Thomas retired, or DT badly needed)
“They already have 24-year-old Duke Johnson on the roster, one of the most versatile backs in the NFL.—Assumption #2 (“Most versatile backs” in whose eyes, Duke wasn’t drafted or signed by current regime, and very well could be trade bait in the draft with Hyde as new #2 behind Barkley)
“Hyde is a true No. 1 running back and simply does not fit with Barkley on the roster.”—-Assumption #3—Is Dorsey assuming the same?, that in his eyes he actually signed Hyde to that deal and both would represent a common approach in Todd Haley’s new OC scheme coming over from Pittsburgh.
What do we think Bucs fans?? In my opinion, people are allowed to present differing views, and almost everyone makes “assumptions” or doesn’t depending on what word you would like to use, when articulating their analysis as both @Pickgrin did, and @Joe did. Hmmm.
Go Bucs!
April 16th, 2018 at 7:46 am
Joe this would be a full submission that our front office is inadequate. We lose on him in free agency and end up having to give up a draft pick for him? No, just no please
April 16th, 2018 at 7:47 am
Goodell – please move up the draft and save us from these nonsense articles
April 16th, 2018 at 9:26 am
Hmmmm………Tensions running high this morning.
Interesting.
The draft better hurry up and get here
April 16th, 2018 at 11:00 am
If we can draft Nelson or Chubb if they fall to 7 we have to run up to the podium and draft them!! If there gone then draft Vita vea!!! Games are won at the line !! Build the trenches !! Vea is an awesome athlete that can even play DE, hell he can play RB on goal line offense !! Our next Sapp !!!
April 16th, 2018 at 11:06 am
Hyde doesn’t excite me….Barkley DOES!!!! So if he’s gone I want Guice…a bruiser with attitude.
April 16th, 2018 at 11:13 am
No way they draft Barkley. They signed Hyde so they would not have to.
More likely, they go QB and OG (bye bye Nelson)