“Biggest Sleeper Of The Draft”
April 30th, 2018
Former Bucs QB talks Bucs draft.
For Bucs fans still belly-aching why the Bucs passed on Isaiah Oliver and instead settled for M.J. Stewart while also grabbing Carlton Davis in the same round, former Bucs quarterback Chris Simms would like to have a word with you.
In short, anyone complaining about the Bucs settling on Davis have no idea what they are talking about. That’s what Simms said in so many words.
In a Bleacher Report video Simms cut before the NFL draft, Simms went bananas for Davis, saying he has first-round talent and called him “the biggest sleeper in the draft.”
Simms just raved about the guy. In the video, there is a clip of Davis making a sweet open-field tackle on Sony Michel.
Enjoy. (Former Bucs rockstar GM Mark Dominik also was stunned David dropped so far in the draft.)
Is Auburn CB Carlton Davis the most underrated player in the #NFLDraft? @CSimmsQB thinks so đź‘€ pic.twitter.com/ul0Vb9vDd9
— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) April 26, 2018
April 30th, 2018 at 7:08 am
The biggest draft puzzle for me was not who we selected but picking Stewart in front of Davis……It’s hard for me to believe we were in jeopardy of losing Stewart.
Please press Licht on that question.
April 30th, 2018 at 7:08 am
Pumped!
April 30th, 2018 at 7:23 am
@TampaBaybucfan
Exactly, we could’ve had Oliver and Carlton
April 30th, 2018 at 7:25 am
Someone PLEASE explain how Chris Simms all of a sudden became Joes expert on all things football? Ok so dude had his spleen ripped out in a game and daddy won a Super Bowl with the stinking Giants! So what!
April 30th, 2018 at 7:26 am
Guess Joe doesn’t like honest Chris Simms debate since he has to monitor Comments on him.
Joe monitors everything. Why? Because Joe is legally responsible for every word typed on this website. Joe filters for malicious content, unsubstantiated accusations, and attacks on the business and credibility of JoeBucsFan, among many other things that have nothing to do with Chris Simms. –Joe
April 30th, 2018 at 7:46 am
You’d think cause the guy had to scheme against the secondary his entire life he would know what a good DB is supposed to look like. So seeing this does make me feel differently about the pick. I thought the bucs would try to play him at safety. But watching more tape I hope he’s an outside corner for us.
April 30th, 2018 at 7:49 am
I love it when trolls they they know more than a player who actually played the game in college and professional, or a GM. Aaaaamazing. Thanks Joe for being responsible for keeping this site on the up and up.
April 30th, 2018 at 7:50 am
Don’t know enough about Stewart, like most of us on here, don’t know enough about Oliver either, we just kept hearing his name from the draft pundits, so yeah, when we passed on Oliver, I was like what the …, who is this Stewart guy and why didn’t we get Davis since we didn’t get Oliver, then we get Davis and I’m like we could’ve had both Oliver and Davis or Justin Reid or Ronnie Harrison, yeah I was a lil confused, but the last M.J. out of NC didn’t work out too bad, so I’m hopeful, sounds like he has that dog Kwon is looking for.
April 30th, 2018 at 7:55 am
Its not all that hard to understand why MJ Stewart was picked instead of Oliver. I feel like people just know Oliver as the bigger name and thats why they are upset about it.
And who cares that Stewart was picked ahead of Davis. They have them both.
April 30th, 2018 at 8:01 am
Carlton Davis a ronde barber type pick in terms of his tackling ability, sucked when Auburn and muschamp got him instead of the gators but now he is here hope his nfl carreer here is as good as the one up in auburn
April 30th, 2018 at 8:06 am
Thanks Joe !
We greatly appreciate the moron monitor !
April 30th, 2018 at 8:27 am
“Joe monitors everything. Why? Because Joe is legally responsible for every word t”…..gawd….there is NOT enough money in the world to to pay me to read every word posted on JBF….I feel for that poor soul
April 30th, 2018 at 8:28 am
The more film that I watched over the weekend on this guy, the more that I like the pick. He uses his long arms effectively.
The Bucs had Stewart rated higher on their board so that’s a positive reflection on him also.
Go Bucs!
April 30th, 2018 at 8:32 am
Both them can and WILL tackle. Not sure Oliver is that kind of guy. I expect one of these guys might end up at Safety or at least have the versatility to move around. Oliver doesn’t.
April 30th, 2018 at 8:35 am
I read the article and watched the video on Stewart. I didn’t see Chris’s defense of MJ. Did I miss something? I didn’t find this “word” that Chris wanted to have with me.
April 30th, 2018 at 8:48 am
It’s puzzling taking Mj Before Davis
Davis is a badass and we were lukcy to get him.
Jason does weird stuff man
April 30th, 2018 at 8:48 am
I don’t always agree with Joe and usually voice my opinion when it happens but in this case I’m glad he’s controlling the trolls who have nothing better to do then vent and be angry about their lives on the website that has nothing to do with them. Most trolls are complete cowards in real life which They have to do it virtually. Thanks again Joe for staying on top of it
April 30th, 2018 at 9:41 am
I think Davis is the top CB in the draft. Ward plays at 175#. Hes gonna get shoved down by the big 6’5” NFL receivers
Stewart is a people hatin’tough guy. I always love moving CBs to safety- that way you know they have some cover skill. They may leave him at Corner, sliding him in to the slot.
In that case – Hargreaves is done( which I doubt).
Surprised if they leave him on the outside, as a corner. Hes really agressive with recievers in the film I watched( which wasnt alot). Would get him penalized.
Meybe they think they can coach it out of him
April 30th, 2018 at 9:54 am
I’m NOT ready to give up on Hargreaves yet. What he has know is a TON of competition to even continue getting paid. Enough of the shenanigans and just play football.
Sometimes people shine when pushed to the brink.
I also think Justin Watson is an athletic freak and we seriously might have struck gold with this kid. His burst off of the line is unique and I think his goal of attaining the 3rd wide out spot by the end of the year is completely attainable.
And wondering who will return punts for us, I think the obvious answer is D Jackson because if anything, he is expendable now.
April 30th, 2018 at 10:08 am
Great work joe ! (Joes). I too enjoy listening to Chris Simms evaluate players. He’s a very good analyst and is detailed and you can tell he puts in the homework.
I love both Stewart and Davis. And honestly this should be earning to Hargreaves. Last year mike smith stated they don’t tell Vernon to play off the ball. They give their corners that option. Stewart and Davis are known for coming up to the line and jamming guys. Obviously Jason Licht agreed with Mike Smith with the type of guys he brought in.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Hargreaves is shopped around this summer if he cannot beat either of these two out.
April 30th, 2018 at 10:20 am
Just because we don’t understand the MJ Stewart pick – specifically where it happened – doesn’t mean it was a bad pick or the wrong thing to do.
All I know is that the Buccaneers defense is better today than it was 4 days ago.
We got the best DT from a pretty strong group of DTs.
We got two CBs in the 2nd round from a solid crop of CBs.
We got a Safety in the 4th at #117 who is fast and athletic and likely more talented than his draft slot would indicate.
We took a flier on a LB in the 6th rd at #202 who has NFL level talent – but couldn’t stay healthy in College. He’s healthy now so may well be able to compete for a spot.
That’s a good haul considering we also filled a couple needs on offense pretty nicely as well.
Listening to Carlton Davis’ interview with the Tampa Bay pen and mic club got me pretty fired up about that young man’s attitude and demeanor.
Love that he has plus height. First CB we’ve had over 6′ since Talib I believe.
April 30th, 2018 at 10:20 am
Simms and Dominik. Yep. Two real experts. One couldn’t throw a pass without someone batting it down, the other went 28-52 as a GM and ruined the Buccaneers culture, and assured himself of future employment in the coffee business. Created the dumpster fire that Licht has been trying to extinguish ever since
April 30th, 2018 at 10:27 am
Grimes/Davis/Hargreaves
Stewart/Smith/Elliott
Jude/Robinson
Are we carrying (8) CBs this year?
April 30th, 2018 at 10:52 am
Yeah Chris Simms..That what we thought you were here in Bucland when we drafted you..a sleeper. Problem was, thats what you did..went right to sleep and never woke up!!
April 30th, 2018 at 11:01 am
Chris..VH3…has always step onto a football field and had his way….the NFL showed him otherwise and crushed his confidence….he has the physical tools and talent….it is all head games now…and NFL WR’s talked some serious smack pre snap and backed it up….it is all in VH3’s head …it is all him now….a few INT’s will go a long way….I hope the kid can get his act together otherwise he’ll be playing his second contract with another team
April 30th, 2018 at 11:05 am
@Tampabaybucsfan From what I’ve heard NE was interested in a slot corner, and right after we select one NE trades up with us to get another, that leads me to assume they were interested in Stewart who if I recall correctly was rated higher than Dawson (whom they ultimately took). But you’re right we could’ve had Oliver, now we have to deal with Atlanta having him :/
April 30th, 2018 at 11:13 am
How far off the line did he play in college? You already know where he’s going to be lined up here
April 30th, 2018 at 1:31 pm
Somebody measure his wingspan!!!
It must be 6-4 or 6-5!
Hes a freak like Antonio Cromartie or Kevin Durant!
His hands go past his knees!!
April 30th, 2018 at 3:25 pm
I’ll break this down for those that keep asking. The bucs drafted MJ first because they believe he is the better player. The bucs didn’t draft Oliver because they believe that both Davis and Stewart are better. Their group of paid scouting professionals (correct or not) have more data and football knowledge than you do. Sorry. The bucs and every team in football do a far better job of scouting than your YouTube/Mike Mayock scout technique.
April 30th, 2018 at 4:52 pm
The same way most folks get jobs in TV. They come with knowledge of the subject they are hired to discuss and often have compelling takes and can explain things in short, easy-to-understand bytes while possessing a qualified football resume.
He played quarterback in the NFL and both played for and worked for Belicheat.
If you have ever heard Joe Montana interviewed, you will understand why guys with better football resumes are not guaranteed TV and/or radio jobs.
April 30th, 2018 at 5:00 pm
Pretty sure you would if you were getting paid $250-$400 an hour to do so which is what legal fees would be if Joe let some dipstick using a handle slander and make up sh** in the comments.
Of course, no hair off of your balls. Joe’s the one that would lose a business, not some clown with a nondescript username.
April 30th, 2018 at 9:33 pm
Still puzzled by our 2nd rd pick of MJ Stewart; It appears our coaches really loved him the week of the Senior bowl. I understand that excitement for assessing smaller school players vs. larger school players, since level of competition is a question. But there is plenty of tape on him and his performances at UNC. I even understand that he may be more of a scheme fit for our defense rather than the kid from Colorado who is taller and faster. But look at who the Patriots traded up for just a few picks after; UF’s Duke Dawson. Dawson is about the same size and body type as Stewart;. Dawson’s 40 time was a faster 4.45 vs. Stewart’s 4.54. Dawson was a nickel/corner starter all his time at UF and has awesome tape in the SEC, in my opinion better than Stewart’s tape, but google it yourself if you don’t believe. Yet we take the kid from UNC, from a crappy defense by the way, because he had some good Senior bowl practices? Time will tell, but I for one will be watching the career of Dawson, not the kid from Colorado, to see who really got the right DB; my money is definitely on Belecheat!
April 30th, 2018 at 10:30 pm
Chris Simms is good enough for Mike Florio – the #1 NFL program on TV. He is not worthy enough for Joe Bucs Fan commenters…. Yeah that makes sense.
May 1st, 2018 at 12:05 am
I watched Davis a few times last season. Auburn had a darn good team and he was a big part of it. I’m excited to see him play as well as the rest of the new Bucs. I have no complaints about anything Licht did. He filled a lot of holes and this could be his best draft yet. Davis is a baller and not afraid to get right in your face.
May 1st, 2018 at 12:52 am
Licht was a novice GM when we gave him his first opportunity to be a GM. He came in believing BPA was the key to the draft, and has had to learn the hard way BPWN (Best Player We Need) is the much better strategy and you fix your trenches first
May 9th, 2018 at 6:31 pm
Chris Simms does his homework. He is well-studied and he does a great job of expressing his opinions in a compelling way. He is just fun to watch. I am proud of him doing a great job in this new realm, and I enjoyed his time as a Buccaneers QB.