NFL Official Talks Jameis Winston Investigation
March 2nd, 2018
We’re about 110 days into the official NFL investigation into America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, for allegedly grabbing the crotch of a working female Uber driver without permission.
It’s a critical component to the 2018 Buccaneers season. Only Bucs fans with their heads in the sand or glued to Pro Football Focus grades would think otherwise.
We learned at the NFL Scouting Combine this week that Dirk Koetter doesn’t have “any” information about the investigation. And general manager Jason Licht told Joe that he, the GM of the team, doesn’t know if Jameis has been interviewed league investigators. Two weeks ago, Tampa Bay Times Bucs beat writer Rick Stroud said Jameis was not interviewed.
Considering the NFL in about 21 days this year wrapped up an investigation into an alleged domestic violence issue concerning Panthers GM Marty Hurney, this whole Jameis investigation appears to be about as energetic and focused as Chris “Swaggy” Baker at a spring practice at One Buc Palace.
Frankly, it stinks. And it especially stinks after star witness to Jamies’ alleged innocence, Ronald Darby, told Joe at the Super Bowl that the NFL had yet to interview him on the matter.
At the NFL Scouting Combine this week, JoeBucsFan.com was able to reach out to an NFL official and get a comment on what is happening with the Jameis investigation. “It is ongoing. We want to wrap these up as quickly as we can, but often it takes a while because of the number of people that have to be contacted and talked to,” he said.
Joe promptly walked to the nearest solid wall and head-butted it repeatedly.
As a powerful media player told Joe this week, the NFL, for now and for whatever reason, doesn’t want this Jameis investigation resolved quickly.
March 2nd, 2018 at 10:50 am
@Joe…
Now THIS is a great question, a good pursuit of hard-hitting journalism for the Bucs faithful that will possible greatly affect the Bucs 2018 SEASON, not issues or woulda/coulda/shoulda on 2017.
Well done Joe.
Go Bucs!
March 2nd, 2018 at 10:51 am
They got until March 15 to figure this out. If not then my season tix are done.
March 2nd, 2018 at 10:52 am
It’s seriously taken the NFL THIS LONG to talk to people?! Sounds like they’ve been on their Coffee Break for the past 110 days. If there’s no evidence, the NFL should abandon the investigation. I do wonder though if their worried about how they’ll be painted by the Mainstream Media.
March 2nd, 2018 at 10:53 am
The number of people they need to talk to? Please there’s only a handful..give me the phone numbers and I will personally take care of this during my lunch break..I’ll wrap it all once and for all…
March 2nd, 2018 at 10:58 am
I wish you would have said “Dude I’m not a f*cking idiot. It’s been 110 days and you haven’t even spoken to Ronald Darby. There aren’t many people involved in this and these kind of BS answers insult the media and our fan base. Everyone can see through it”
I know you can’t probably talk like that and keep up your job but that’d have probably felt good lol
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:02 am
They probably don’t want it resolved quickly because they’ll end up with egg on their face.
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:02 am
He did it! Time to sign Glennon, Super Bowl!
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:05 am
Guess who…Buc faithful…just put up the most bench press reps of any RB at the combine. A certain mister Saquon Barkley at 29 reps! Think that will assist pass protection for a RB?!! Hmmm.
Mister Saquon Barkley.
Go Bucs!
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:09 am
Also looks like players finally weighing in.
Arden Key is 238 lbs. I liked his tape but no thank you.
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:13 am
its been stated in the past if this was a player on the pats or cowboys, who have more powerful owners, this would have been resolved a long time ago. But because its on a team not generally popular in the NFL with an ownership thats not an extremely powerful energy such as jerry jones or robert kraft, NFL brass just does not seem to be in a hurry to resolve it… Our best scenario here is that it doesnt even get resolved this season which is a good possibility or not enough evidence is admitted in order to suspend or punish jameis but wow im with joe i would be butting my head against the wall with answers like that they may as well said to JBF oh its just the bucs that team is not a big concern for us right now its not like they are going to do anything great for us this year or generate more money for us!
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:14 am
Anyone have a link to the combine. The nfl network app isn’t working with my cable provider. 🤬
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:15 am
sounds like they’re building their case!
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:22 am
Joe must have not told them that JW3 is America’s Quarterback!!!!!!!!!!
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:27 am
yeah, like Cosby is americas comedian
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:31 am
THE WAY JAMEIS WAS IN COLLEGE TELLS ME HE DONE IT , STILL UP TO HIS OLD WAYS CAN’T CHANGE THE COLORS OF A LEOPARD, OR ZEBRA…….
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:36 am
If our President can “grab ’em by the p****,” why can’t Jameis?
Seriously, the NFL better have a good reason for the delay!
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:38 am
Joe
why not just go to the police and yell WHY HAVENT YOU ARRESTED JAMEIS YET?? I NEED CLOSURE! Lol.
Or just walk right up to goodell and say listen I know there are players on video beating on women who still got to play in the SB BUT this is Jameis Winston were talking about and even though there is zero evidence against him and it seems like nothing more than a money grab from the same lawyer that lost to jameis previously I think you need to suspend him for at least 6 games so that the good ol boys down yonder can kick back with a cold one and say “see eyes told ya dat boy is nuttin more than one of thems FSU thugs.” Go Bucs
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:41 am
The NFL wants year round coverage. I don’t look for any news until the dead period after the draft.
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:46 am
It’s a critical component to the 2018 Buccaneers season. Only Bucs fans with their heads in the sand or glued to Pro Football Focus grades would think otherwise
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Yes sir, great work
I’ve been echoing this sentiment in the comments section for the last couple of weeks and several posters get very defensive when I think that if Jameis gets suspended then we should be looking at QB with our first pick. Not saying we have to take a QB, but what a waste of a year it would be to have our franchise QB miss 6 games and watch our season sink before us.
Licht and Koetter can’t afford not to have their QB on the field for up to 6 games. The Glazers and the fans will not excuse them for a QB’s potential suspension.
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:48 am
Perhaps the Glazers are ok with a slow decision so more season tickets sell.
I see less folks buying tickets if we know our #1 pick is suspended for six games next year.
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:50 am
Boy all of the Jameis haters are out in full force today.
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:51 am
the team played better with Fitz in there anyway.
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:51 am
I can’t help but feel like our fans are being held hostage.
This regime doesn’t have the luxury of another lost season, and if our QB is suspended we need to do something major at that position. More than just Fitzpatrick or Glennon.
Maybe we sign Sam Bradford, or pursue another FA QB, IDK. But I do know that we can not just sit back and watch this collapse, much like we did last year with doug Martin.
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:53 am
Ndog,
I love Jameis, own his jersey, and make it a point to draft him in fantasy football each year.
But, I love my Buccaneers more, and if our QB is ineligible for up to 6 contests next year, then we need to be prudent and think about what’s best for the organization.
I take it you’re a Jameis fan first, then a Bucs fan? Totally cool by be, I’m just the other way around.
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:54 am
For the record, I assisted in coining Josh freeman apologists, “Freemanites”.
I will never put one player before a whole team. I love Jameis and he is so much more promising that Freeman, but we can’t afford to have another lost season.
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:59 am
Jamise sucks
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:00 pm
DB55 Says:
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:38 am
Joe
why not just go to the police and yell WHY HAVENT YOU ARRESTED JAMEIS YET?? I NEED CLOSURE! Lol.
Or just walk right up to goodell and say listen I know there are players on video beating on women who still got to play in the SB BUT this is Jameis Winston were talking about and even though there is zero evidence against him and it seems like nothing more than a money grab from the same lawyer that lost to jameis previously I think you need to suspend him for at least 6 games so that the good ol boys down yonder can kick back with a cold one and say “see eyes told ya dat boy is nuttin more than one of thems FSU thugs.” Go Bucs
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Man, that can’t be the way this is being evaluated. I hope Jameis is clear and eligible to play barring injury.
Going back to your personal
Attack towards me yesterday, will YOU apaologize to JBF.com commenters if Jameis gets suspended? I know I’ll be thankful if/when Jameis is cleared.
Goodell is so arbitrary it scares me.
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:11 pm
If JW3 is suspended, then I will give the coaching staff a two year pass!!!!!!!!!
Go Bugs!!!!!!!!!
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:12 pm
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:12 pm
This means they have nothing and are still digging to find something, the NFL likes to have something… the only thing they have going for them right now is the Reuben Foster incident, plus, this is the combine, free agency and draft news time of the year. after the draft they will come out with a statement because they will not have much news unless Gronk retires or something.
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:14 pm
Tom Brady was suspended and the Pats went 3-1 without him. The Eagles won the Super Bowl with their backup. The Vikings went to the NFC Conference finals with their backup.They should build a complete team and quit worrying about losing one player.
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:14 pm
Realist- You’ve been issuing quite a few passes of late. I’m not sure you were as patient with previous regimes.
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:17 pm
Bucsfanman,
You mean the Lovie Smith regime
Realist, wanted Lovie fired before the ink was dry on his contract
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:18 pm
It sound like someone or a few people have an axe to grind with the Bucs for whatever reason. I also agree with SteveK that not only the fans, but the organization, is being held hostage.
Is it crazy to suggest that the Bucs need to focus on getting a *starting* QB at this point? I’m not necessarily saying replace Jameis but I don’t know if the organization can afford to sign low hanging fruit like Mike Glennon. Is Ryan Griffin a viable future option?
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:26 pm
So, everyone is wondering why haven’t they talked to Darby and Winston. They must be looking to build a perjury trap. They want to get video or other evidence that supports the driver’s side of things, first. Even if they don’t have any proof and can’t actually compel Darby or Jameis to talk under oath, just the possibility that there is evidence to the contrary would give them pause.
If Jameis is innocent and he and Darby are telling the truth, this tactic won’t work. If he’s guilty, …
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:26 pm
Yeah, a little hypocritical if you ask me. I wasn’t going to take him to task until he started with the “pass giving”!
Realist, NOBODY gets a pass. Better organizations have fired coaches for FAAAAAR less. If they don’t turn the corner THIS year, he’s done!
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:31 pm
Steve K
I’ll apologize in CAPS
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:36 pm
I too give Koetter/a Licht a pass is Jameis is suspended for 6 games.
And, I see why fans won’t. Since fans won’t give the regime a pass if Jameis is suspended, then we need to know the outcome by draft day/FA dinner bell so we can solidify the QB position.
Not to mention, if Jameis is suspended for 6 games, his next suspension would be for a year. This is why I would rather draft a QB early if Jameis is suspended. Too much at risk here.
Fans won’t give Koetter and Licht a pass if Jameis is suspended for 6 games, therefore the Buccaneers might be looking at a QB this offseason as job security is very much in question for Koetter and Licht.
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:38 pm
Me too, DB55. I pray Jameis is not suspended, and if we know he will be then the task at hand is to find another franchise QB. It would suck, but it would suck exponentially more to wait it out like we did with Doig Martin.
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:45 pm
“Joe promptly walked to the nearest solid wall and head-butted it repeatedly.”
Just eat paint chips…..Same lasting effect but atleast you might have some fun before that happens.
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:52 pm
It’s absolute BS that this “investigation” is still ongoing. It’s not that damn complicated! Find out who the mysterious player or friend was in the front seat and be done with it.
Holding the Buccaneers and their fans hostage is unacceptable and I’m glad Joe and Ira continue to point it out. Rant on guys, you rant for me!
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:58 pm
Joe good work for asking.
However you really think they’re going to relay everything answering your question ? No.
There is probably more detail and leg work needed to be done. The location of the pick up where Jameis , Darby and mystery 3rd person got in the uber. Researching security cameras seeing if there is footage. The drive through location: is there security cameras. Talking to uber and the driver. This will get resolved. They will talk to Jameis and Darby soon. It’ll happen before the draft once the leg work is completed.
I think Jameis did do something. I’m not entirely sold he was innocent at Florida state. If Winston was innocent he would have notified the Bucs when his uber account was cancelled due to the accusation. That way it was fresh and the Bucs could have been prepared. 18 months later they just find out. It makes me feel winston was hiding something again.
March 2nd, 2018 at 1:02 pm
BUCFANMAN & LAKELAND
GOOD JOB CALLIN HIM(or her) OUT!!!!!!!!……
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
March 2nd, 2018 at 1:09 pm
folks want to give dirk a pass for IF he loses his QB for 6games but those same fan would give the previous regime a pass when the HC lost his OC for the ENTIRE YEAR!!!!
IMO, he was already given a pass due to his 9-7 record the year before…..
this is a “WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY” business…..lately this regime has went 5-11…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
March 2nd, 2018 at 1:17 pm
LakeLand Says:
March 2nd, 2018 at 12:14 pm
Tom Brady was suspended and the Pats went 3-1 without him. The Eagles won the Super Bowl with their backup. The Vikings went to the NFC Conference finals with their backup.They should build a complete team and quit worrying about losing one player.
^^BINGO^^
and the bills ended a 17year drought with a first year HC and erratic QB play……titans made the playoffs with erratic QB play…..hell, the jets won 5games with NO QB….LOL…
and to think folks want to give this regime a 2 year pass just because Winston might miss 6 games…..that aint even half the season….lol….
and dirk and licht said we’re very very close…….why do they need 2 extra years if Winston misses 6 games…..lol
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!…..GO BUCS!!!!
March 2nd, 2018 at 1:19 pm
813 BucBoi,
Good point! We all know Lovie Smith has won less games the past four years (2 with the Bucs and 2 in college) than Dirk has won the last two years with the Bucs. Dirk is literally twice the coach Lovie is on results alone.
Beyond that, if Jameis is suspended for 6 games, and if we know there are no excuses, than we need to draft a QB with the 7th pick. I think one of the top 4 are there. If not, that means one of Chub, Nelson, or Barkley are available and I pray to god we draft Lamar Jackson in round 2.
No excuses means that if Jameis is suspended for 6 games the we need a new QB.
Thanks for your passion and making a great point. You can’t deny Lovie Smith wasn’t worse. Lovie has zero players at the combine this year and he coaches in the Big Ten. Lovie hired his family to coaching positions on an underwhelming defense. Lovie also napped at the combine. He needed to go. Dirk may not be the answer, but he is literally twice the answer Lovie would be.
March 2nd, 2018 at 1:21 pm
813bucboi,
If Jameis misses six games that I believe we are looking at a new QB in Tampa. Can’t make excuses and get fired bc our #1 pick is suspended for damn near 40% of the regular season.
If a six game suspension is looming, then get a new QB and make it happen this year.
March 2nd, 2018 at 1:23 pm
Bucanole Says
“They got until March 15 to figure this out. If not then my season tix are done.”
Didn’t you already have to pay for them?
Besides, its not the bucs fault. They can’t put guns to the heads of investigators.
March 2nd, 2018 at 1:26 pm
This has “suspension” written all over it. If he was going to be absolved, it would have happened by now. The NFL is building a case and determining length of suspension, because they don’t want an Ezekiel Elliott situation again. I bet Licht and Koetter know this already, which is why we are hearing Mike Glennon rumors. Goodbye, Jameis.
March 2nd, 2018 at 1:27 pm
The number of people….
What, was the Uber car a clown car with hundreds in it?
Let me see….haven’t talked to Darby….haven’t talked to Jameis…..
According to the driver, she was alone with Jameis…..
Number of people to be interviewed…..my a$$.
If the NFL can be sued for dragging it’s feet on this, they should be.
March 2nd, 2018 at 1:30 pm
If that’s the case, Jeebs, then I sure hope we get one of the top five QBs in this draft:
Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, or Lamar Jackson.
We can not and will not watch our season be flushed down the toilet bc we our #1 pick QB is out for 40% of the regular season. That is a recipe for disaster, not playoffs.
We waited and stuck Winn doug Martin on his suspension and how did that turn out?
March 2nd, 2018 at 1:41 pm
The reason they have not talked to Darby or Jameis is that they have not interviewed the Uber driver because her lawyer is probably not willing to let her make a statement while the possibility of extorting more money from Jameis exists. The only person who benefits by dragging this out is the Uber driver. There is no other logical explanation.
March 2nd, 2018 at 1:50 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai
yes it is the bucs fault. If the glazer’s demonstrated any level of leadership this distraction and the gruden distractions would have never taken place in the first place… This team is irrelevant nationally and the glazers are the least respected owners in the nfl. No way kraft, jones or rooney have to deal with this BS from the league. The franchise is a laughing stock
March 2nd, 2018 at 1:59 pm
STEVEK
the previous regime had a defense ranked dead last…..this regime is in the same category and has way more talent…..the previous regime averaged about the same amount of points and dirk currently has way more talent…..
there’s no reason to draft a QB when dirk has been “coaching up” ryan griffin for years now…..he should know the system…..if Winston is suspended for 6games we have our answer on the roster now…..his suspension is not a reason to have a lousy season or draft a QB early…..THATS AN EXCUSE to have a lousy season…..
all of our question/holes can be fixed thru the draft and FA……the key will be coaching…..
you may think dirk is better than lovie but they both have had last place finishes in defense and the NFC south…..the only difference is lovie PROGRESSED his second year with a bunch of rookies and dirk REGRESSED in his second year…..
imo, their in the same boat….and if dirk doesn’t get us to the playoffs in 2018, they be at the same fishing pier…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!…..GO BUCS!!!!
March 2nd, 2018 at 2:01 pm
Actually Jones and Kraft had their best players suspended multiple games under murky circumstances. That argue doesn’t hold much water…less than Swaggy Baker on a critical 3rd and goal for the Panthers. At any rate…it probably ain’t good news for JW.
March 2nd, 2018 at 2:05 pm
stevek
so i guess you want to trade Winston if he gets suspended….
and you think one of those rookie would led us to the playoffs?….having a rookie QB is no excuse not to make the playoffs…..dirk will still get fired….ask lovie…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
March 2nd, 2018 at 2:09 pm
NO EXCUSES!!!!!!
this regime has known about winstons situation since the middle of the season!!!!!…..they’ve had more than enough time and money to create a back up plan in case Winston has to sit…..
but i have a feeling this regime will get caught with their pants down….again….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
March 2nd, 2018 at 2:20 pm
JonBuc
it does hold water it’s not about the players were suspended its about the pace of the investigation and the support from ownership. Both Kraft and Jones were both vocal and supportive of their respective players in the media and league wide. glazers are a joke. the results are indisputable not a single meaningful win in 16 years and not a single meaningful game in 11 years.
March 2nd, 2018 at 2:30 pm
@Joe
I’m assuming Goodell is at the combine and taking questions?? If it’s either in an interview or if you can just talk to him, can you please yell “WHY THE HELL HAS IT TAKEN JAMEIS’ INVESTIGATION THREE MONTHS TO GET UNDERWAY AND IT TOOK YOU TWO WEEKS TO ALLOW THAT WIFE BEATING PANTHERS’ COACH TO GET OFF RIGHT AFTER THE SEASON???!!!”
Goodell- “Uhhh, I have no comment about that.” He’s such an ass. Hate Goodell.
March 2nd, 2018 at 2:57 pm
can’t believe all the homers here. some of us told you he was trouble before they took him!!!!
this is on licht for selling him, and the glazers on buying and putting $$ ahead of common sense.
March 2nd, 2018 at 3:00 pm
TMaxed Out:
I get that you’re not pro-Glazer…the Bucs are their JV team compared to Man U.-just the way it is. But you refer to Jones, Keaft and Rooney…ALL of which have had their star players suspended without indisputable evidence…forgot about Big Ben who was Harvey Weinstein before Harvey Weinstein. Allegedly. Not sure what good it would do for the Bros. Glazers to “get tough” with Goodell. How’d that go for Jerry Jones recently?
March 2nd, 2018 at 3:14 pm
813bucboi,
No, I would not trade Jameis. He is on his rookie deal this year, with a 5th year option. If we know Jameis is going to be suspended, then I would draft a QB early this year and may the best man win!
If Jameis is suspended, or playoff chances are much worse. If we draft a top QB prospect, at least we might have a chance, and it would put our QB position into a better place.
Fitzpatrick is a FA, and Ryan Griffen is coming off a bum shoulder with ZERO NFL starts…
I say we roll with Winston either way, and draft a QB early if we know he is out for 40% of the regular season.
No Excuses=No Holding Back!
“Caught with their pants down” is exactly what we did with Doug Martin. Stupid to stick with him for sure!
March 2nd, 2018 at 3:25 pm
Joes, I love your site and the work you put into it. Respectfully, you could have and should have done better regarding this matter.
Did you really expect to extrapolate an honest and detailed answer from an NFL suit with one simple question? You guys should have prepared a 2nd, 3rd & 4th question, even to the point of provocation. They are stringing along their customers and we are owed an explanation, especially the season ticket holders (which I am not) even if we are a small market. Their response is simply unsatisfactory. They can revoke credentials but, they can’t fire you, right? You guys can do better.
Pffffft. So you just assume Joe asked one question? As you might say, “You can do better.” –Joe
March 2nd, 2018 at 3:28 pm
I’ll call it now. If the Bucs are 6-0 the NFL will suspend Winston for 4 games for some BS reason just to stick it to the Bucs.
March 2nd, 2018 at 3:50 pm
Joe it seems to me that they have there backs against the wall and want to elongate the investigation to keep themselves from embarrassment.something smells fishy here…you have witness A(Fameis Jameis) that has not been interviewed not even contacted and witness B(Ronald Darby) in the same boat as Jameis I wanna know exactly WHO has the league contacted and talked to so far in the past 3-4 months.
March 2nd, 2018 at 3:54 pm
There is only 3-4 people,5max that they have to interview and talk to.lets see,2 witnesses for Jaboo,none for the plaintiff. No police report or affidavit filed.no physical evidence against Jameis and the only circumstantial evidence against Jameis is that his Uber account was used for the ride.there is insufficient evidence to pursue a case against Mr.Jaboo and to file any type of league disciplinary action to go forth with. Case closed and Mr. Jaboos legal team will be filing a motion of lawsuit under slander against Mr Jaboo.
March 2nd, 2018 at 3:55 pm
I too am worried about this situation because it should be wrapped up by now.
If Jameis gets suspended, then we are screwed.
March 2nd, 2018 at 4:00 pm
stevek
I understand your theory……no doubt we have to go all out but we cant be reckless…..
would love to get lamar Jackson….but we have too many holes to spend a 2nd rounder on a QB….
now we could maybe teddy ballgame….I would be cool with that….but if licht spends a 2nd rounder on a QB, folks would have his head….lol….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
March 2nd, 2018 at 4:03 pm
MTM Says:
March 2nd, 2018 at 3:28 pm
I’ll call it now. If the Bucs are 6-0 the NFL will suspend Winston for 4 games for some BS reason just to stick it to the Bucs.
I can see that happening….I can also see the NFL suspending Winston if we’re 0-6 or 3-3 just to stick it to us…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
March 2nd, 2018 at 4:13 pm
813 buc boi,
I am down for Teddy, Bradford, or Keenum!
We need someone better than Fitzpatrick to help make up for the potential loss of Jameis…
March 2nd, 2018 at 5:00 pm
I clearly do not know what any investigation is turning up. I do know there has been plenty of time for the NFL to bring a resolution to this case.
The NFL is a collection of 32 franchises with mutually dependent needs. The Bucs should be able to plan for 2018!!! That would include knowing whether your franchise QB is going to get suspended…or not!!! They should know this before FA and before the draft.
Bucs deserve the results of #3’s investigation ASAP so as to allow them to prepare appropriately for 2018. This will totally suck if the NFL handles this as well as they did the hurricane and the bye dates.
I can see it now…after much speculation and innuendo but no decision we roll through the pre season….looking pretty good…and then the week before the season starts the NFL drops a 6 game suspension on #3. How badly would that suck?
March 2nd, 2018 at 5:58 pm
As I said, you won’t hear a peep more than likely until the end of March, when the statute of limitations runs out. From there, if no lawsuit, the NFL will move on to first determine if JW is lying about number in the car. If he is lying, they walk to back to he was probably in violation of the NFL conduct policy–and he gets the double whammy. Not saying I agree, but that’s how it works when defending the shield. Joe can recycle the “stinks” story over and over, but that’s how it goes. As for those saying if it was Jones and Brady this would be done…notsomuch. Don’t forget how long the Brady and Zeke storie’s played out. And if they suspect guilt, more foot dragging is the norm. Does it hurt the team? Yes. It’s intended to. Not saying I agree with that either.
March 2nd, 2018 at 7:39 pm
The story doesn’t make sense…who sits up front in uber when alone…then gropes an uber driver?
My problem is more with Winston not being smart enough hire a car aervice for the night and bringing hanger ons that seem to not handle their liquor well partying with him.
March 2nd, 2018 at 11:19 pm
It’s all about optics with the NFL …
March 3rd, 2018 at 2:02 am
Here is the deal – The NFL is doing the Bucs, and Jameis Winston A FAVOR BY NOT LAUNCHING AN INVESTIGATION yet. The strategy that would be smart, and likely what we are witnessing is the NFL effort to avoid giving the plaintiff cause to file suit. In Arizona, with few exceptions, the statute of limitation for actions alleging personal injury is 2 YEARS. See Matter of Estate of Chase, 125 Ariz. 270, 609 P.2d 85. Only Fraud, contracts, and other failure to pay liabilities appear to have occasionally longer statutes of limitation.
The alleged incident occurred around 2 a.m. on Sunday March 13, 2016 according to Buzzfeed who originally reported it. There has been no publicly recognized formal charges filed by the plaintiff to the police or to the courts. If the NFL would launched an investigation prior to the expiration of the statutes of limitations, that investigation alone would be enough cause for the plaintiff to suggest to a court in a law suit that the NFL SUPPORTS her belief that a crime has been committed.
I am not an attorney; I just prefer to use rational thought and common sense. I expect that shortly after March 13, 2018, the NFL will have a very fast investigation that determines that there is no evidence to supports a determination that a violation of NFL policy has occurred. No one will be blamed and Jameis will be free to resume his career with what is left of his damaged reputation.
The NFL’s primary interest is the shield, and they likely do not want to be drawn into a determination either way before the plaintiff has excused her opportunity to sue Jameis and the NFL. We all can stop worrying if there are no charges or law suits by the end of the day, 13 March 2018.
March 3rd, 2018 at 3:45 am
Ignorance is bliss.
March 3rd, 2018 at 3:51 pm
KfromFLA…on March 14 I suspect the issue moves to how many were in the car and where JW was sitting. If his claims hold water, this is over. If they don’t, now you have the odd player conduct requirements in CBA where if he is found to have lied on that, Goodell can *legally* determine he probably lied about the Uber driver contact. That is, no longer a legal issue and moreso a tell-the-truth to NFL issue…which by the way, he can stand by his claim as being true or come clean. Once this is NOT in the courts, it’s all CBA and that’s where Goodell gets his power. Lawyers advise at that point/determine if Goodell is in his legal bounds to levy punishment. As we’ve seen, he can pretty much do what he wants. Hopefully Jameis is not lying about number of folks in the car.
March 3rd, 2018 at 11:49 pm
Garbage and made up by the woman.
Hey “ladies”, quit treating men like ATM’s.
March 4th, 2018 at 9:10 pm
If you look at rules for Uber drivers you will notice that they required run video both outside front windshield and inside towards driver, Rumor has it there is a video on this one that the NFL never wants anyone to see if that true NFL looking at biggest out of court settlement in history. The NFL does not want to involve Ronald Darby he has been told to keep mouth shut. If there is video and Winston did it he looking at a lot more than 6 games. I hope he is cleared outright if not he will not take a snap in 2018. Bucs seem to be sitting on there hands doing nothing about QB situation.
March 4th, 2018 at 11:39 pm
Roy T. Buford if the NFL cannot prove if Jameis Winston touched anyone as alleged, how do they prove how many people were in the car? The situation does not change, 2-words against 1 is the minimum. IMO, if there was video evidence, it would be public knowledge before now.
The NFL should stick to what they can prove, even if that is through suggestive evidence. A 3rd unnamed person in the car suggests nothing.
March 6th, 2018 at 7:21 pm
It could rally the team, knowing their captain is getting screwed, and make them get better
March 7th, 2018 at 3:32 am
If Jameis gets suspended, there’s a Johnny M (Joe’s boy) waiting to be signed for free….lol
March 9th, 2018 at 11:17 pm
Now that Winston is being investigated as an NFL PLAYERit opens up all of his transgressions that occurred in college. The NFL couldn’t level punishments as based on college issues. Now they can
March 10th, 2018 at 8:53 am
St Pete, I can totally see your scenario happening. It would suck but …..