“As Many Of Them As They Can Get, They Gotta Do It.”
March 24th, 2018
“Mr. Glazer, we have to increase the cafeteria budget for the animals I’m bringing in.”
It’s time to start collecting.
Don’t step off the gas.
That’s the word from former Buccaneers tight end Dave Moore, the 16-year NFL veteran and film guru of the Buccaneers Radio Network.
Moore was on WDAE-AM 620 this week praising the move of Ali Marpet back to right guard and the signing of nasty-boy center Ryan Jensen. And Moore loved how Jason Licht spent this month buying defensive line help like Joe purchases boneless chicken at Abe’s Place.
(Have you ever heard the story of how Abe’s Place actually created the boneless chicken craze?)
Moore had a directive for Licht: Don’t stop.
“As many of them as they can get, they gotta do it,” Moore said of loading the roster with pass rushers.
Amen to that. This is the NFC South, home of Cam Newton, Drew Brees and Matt Ryan. And none of these guys is fading away anytime soon. It’s not a typical division, getting after the quarterback is a different level of “top priority” and everyone knows it.
Go there in the draft, Licht.
Heck, get feelers on a draft-day trade of Will Gholston if that’s what it takes to move up and get a beastly pass rushing talent. Joe is harsh on Gholston for his sackless 2017 season, but he certainly has value in league circles.
And what a great situation for a rookie pass rusher it is in Tampa now. He’s got hard-working defensive ends, men with Super Bowl rings, to study and compete against, and solid offensive tackles to fight in practice. Plus a fresh defensive line coach with an abundance of passion, knowledge and experience on the field.
March 24th, 2018 at 11:37 am
HB-LG-CB-SS
March 24th, 2018 at 11:48 am
Let’s do it baby, is it possible to sign suh and trade Jackson for a 3rd rounder that would be nice. I really don’t think Jackson has much more to offer than Godwin and we can draft a speedy receiver in the later rounds
March 24th, 2018 at 11:49 am
Desean Jackson for a 3rd rounder? You play too much madden. Let’s hope for 5th or 6th, hell even a 7th is great.
March 24th, 2018 at 11:54 am
Suh would be Ok. But his price tag is way to high. There are/will be some good rookie pass rushers available at 7 or if we trade Key/Hubbard/landry/Davenport/Ejiofor will be in ther somewheres. We might get one of these. But I agree with Dave Moore. Don’t stop just because we have 2 already. Hell get 2 more!! You can never have enough pass rushers and disrupters in this league. Get a great pass rush and you increase our chances of winning games..twofold. Its Our biggest key for the upcoming season. Thank God we finally realized it. Now if only we can get Smitty to get off of his A.. and come down out of his Pressbox!
March 24th, 2018 at 11:54 am
The. Bucs. Aren’t. Signing. Suh. My god how are people still asking for it
March 24th, 2018 at 11:55 am
We have to find some late gems in this draft.
We still have some serious holes in the secondary and at running back and offensive line.
I think guice and Sony will both be better than Barkley.
If we can be fortunate enough to trade back, we can nail one of them.
Speaking of trading back….That saints game killed us.
We really could have used those pics.
March 24th, 2018 at 11:56 am
(Have you ever heard the story of how Abe’s Place actually created the boneless chicken craze?)
Have you ever heard the story of how chicken gets to the market?
March 24th, 2018 at 12:08 pm
I agree if Chubb happens to be there at 7, absolutely take him! Otherwise you have your pick of best secondary player (I’m hoping for James…. look what Adams in NY and Ramsey in Jax did as far as impact), then target the depth of pass rushers in this draft round 2!
March 24th, 2018 at 12:15 pm
I don’t think any of the three we want will be there at seven now unless there are more trades but I hope the Bucs are part of those trades to move down
March 24th, 2018 at 12:21 pm
I’ve been calling for the DJax trade for weeks. The 49ers could help out Jimmy G by taking their extra 3rd round pick for him.
I am 100% against signing Suh. First of all, he doesn’t want to come to the Bucs. Second of all, be will be a disaster for team chemistry. He cares only about himself.
March 24th, 2018 at 12:22 pm
Abe’s Place has awesome food, and good cold beer. But I never ever order boneless chicken wings, after it has been revealed that much Rat Meat has been sold as such.
That being said, it does not seem we use DJax correctly, and Jameis does not have the chemistry with him that Curt Cousins did.
Perhaps we should trade him, if we can get something worthwhile for him.
March 24th, 2018 at 12:23 pm
We really need help in our secondary I would love another pass rusher to complete this nasty line however it won’t matter if we can’t stop teams from throwing the ball around and unfortunately we have 3 great quarterbacks in our division and no great corner or safety to stop them from picking us apart. I say get the best corner or safety with the 7th pick if Nelson Barkley and Chubb are off the board. Then trade back into the first round sacrifice next year picks to get davenport.
March 24th, 2018 at 12:25 pm
Grimes and hardgraves is not going to get it done and we all know conte sucks
March 24th, 2018 at 12:28 pm
Time to add some capability to the secondary.
March 24th, 2018 at 12:31 pm
I say best corner at 7 if we can’t get Chubb Nelson or Barkley. Is Fitzpatrick is the best safety and best player available get him. Then some way trade back into first round to get vita vea or Davenport. Then we have a shot at superbowl
March 24th, 2018 at 12:33 pm
I’ve got news for you Joe….Gholston has value but I don’t think we could give him away for free…..I doubt any team wants to pay him his $6,500,000 guaranteed salary next year…..especially after he has been thoroughly trashed on JBF….
Now, Jackson is another matter….let a #1 or even #2 go down on another team in training camp and he would be marketable……of course, what happens to us if Evans or Godwin goes down.
I do agree that we need to draft an edge rusher but now it could be a project player rather than a first round starter.
March 24th, 2018 at 12:38 pm
Gholston is the best and perhaps run stopper we got.
March 24th, 2018 at 12:42 pm
I think the odds of getting a DT plummeted with the Unrein and Allen signings. Here are a few names I hope we can choose from, not just in round 1.
• DE Bradley Chubb
• OG Nelson Quenton
• DT Vita Vea
• DE Marcus Davenport
• RB Saquon Barkley
• DE Harold Landry
• RB Derrius Guice
• S Derwin James
• RT Mike McGlinchey
• DE Ogbonnia Okoronkwo
• CB Tarvarus McFadden
• CB Greg Stroman
March 24th, 2018 at 12:43 pm
CB Greg Stroman is a kick returner. Probably not a great CB, so he’s have to be a 7th rounder or UDFA.
March 24th, 2018 at 12:45 pm
Wasn’t there a player who is missing a limb in this draft?
March 24th, 2018 at 12:52 pm
Bonzai, I agree with your list 100% !
And you are thinking of Shaq Griffin. Kid can play!
March 24th, 2018 at 1:00 pm
We need more pass rush.
In the NE Patriot dynasty era, the only other teams to win the Superbowl have been elite when it comes to rushing the passer! Think Giants, Broncos, Seahawks, and Eagles last year
March 24th, 2018 at 1:00 pm
Good thing they didn’t sign Michael Bennett huh ?
March 24th, 2018 at 1:03 pm
D. Moore is 100% correct. I’ve been preaching this for months.
The #1 problem the Bucs have had is they try to get an “on paper” starting lineup that looks decent during the offseason – with zero depth behind it. Then when one of those starters gets injured and another busts – they have no one to fill the void and the season goes down in flames.
Depth is king.
Depth on the trenches is the #1 asset ANY football team can have.
The Bucs do NOT need to draft a RB high. Leave that to fantasy football.
the Bucs cannot fix everything else in a single offseason.
What they CAN do is completely fortify the trenches with talent and depth. If they do that – the ground game and the defensive backfield will see massive improvements even if left as is. They will also have ample opportunity to supplement those groups with later picks and the wave of free agency that occurs after roster cut-downs begin.
The Bucs need another beast interior lineman and another young DE to add to the mix. They could use another swing tackle and another young interior D-lineman to mold as well.
The ideal scenario for the Bucs:
Nelson fals to #7
And they grab a young promising DE in round 2
It is obvious that Licht and the Bucs are focused on the very thing I’ve been preacHing for months. The trenches. They’ve done well thus far- but they must still do more to make the overhaul complete and constant.
FIX THE TRENCHES, FIX THE BUCS!!
March 24th, 2018 at 1:05 pm
Suh isn’t coming here, folks get over it. Just like Gruden wasn’t coming back either.
As for d-line help: I believe Kony Ealy and Bennie Logan are both still available. Certainly wouldn’t mind bringing Ealy in and stick it to his former team.
Then we could add Eric Reid as safety. Oh wait, too many fans in Tampa wouldn’t be able to handle a guy with opinions like that…
March 24th, 2018 at 1:06 pm
@Bonzai and @gbobucsfan
Yes! Shaquem Griffin from UCF. That dude is relentless!
I’d love to see us scoop him up in mid to late rounds if available. Kid has so much heart and nonstop motor.
March 24th, 2018 at 1:07 pm
Every one continues to over look Trumaine Edmunds @ 7….do your own research about his game and potential
March 24th, 2018 at 1:14 pm
gbobucsfan Says
“And you are thinking of Shaq Griffin. Kid can play!”
Just think of how JPP could inspire that kid. I know he’s an OLB but could he possibly make the switch to DE? Even if he cannot, he would make good depth I think.
LB is not really a need for us, but if he is still there late in the draft, I would love to get him.
March 24th, 2018 at 1:15 pm
I would love to have him and Bully as depth at LB.
March 24th, 2018 at 1:19 pm
AlteredEgo Says
“Every one continues to over look Trumaine Edmunds”
I like him, but unless he can make a switch to DE, I don’t see a need for him…unless the plan is to oust David and move Beckwith into the middle. Not sure I’m quite ready to give up on David just yet.
Although, unless he steps things up once we have a good Dline, I really don’t see the point in overpaying him when the need for an extension comes up.
March 24th, 2018 at 1:20 pm
@Tony from LA … “The ideal scenario for the Bucs: Nelson fals to #7. And they grab a young promising DE in round 2.” Might work for you (and many others Tony) but I tend to think that’d hurt us this season. There are a number of excellent Guards who could be had in the middle Rnds. And adding several DEs in FA improves our draft day flexibility … we don’t NEED to draft a DE in Rnd 1 or 2 right now (although IF Chubb is available, I’d say pull the trigger). What we still NEED is a starting outside corner to complement Grimes (FA Breeland would do). We still NEED a lead-dog RB (draft in Rnd 1 or 2). And we could certainly use a starting SS (FA Eric Reid would do). And we could also use another beastly DT (someplace in the top Rnds of the draft). So many needs. So few picks.
March 24th, 2018 at 1:20 pm
Does anyone feel that Chubb may be a lil soft other than me and Council Rudolph ? Just not the fastest crispest top 5 pick d end I’ve seen ?
I also ? If he is fast enough to play end in the NFL , not that he can’t succeed with his hands and great technique but I think he is a lil soft and slow . He is kinda a hybrid tackle / end guy ?? Kinda reminds me of Santana Dotson’s skill set ?
March 24th, 2018 at 1:25 pm
It is highly doubtful if Shaquem Griffin lasts past round 3, and remember, we have no 3rd round pick anymore.
Nice thought though !
March 24th, 2018 at 1:34 pm
I liked Shaquem Griffin in the 5-6 round but since the combine he is projected to go in the 3rd. That’s a little high for LBer for the Bucs considering their needs.
March 24th, 2018 at 1:47 pm
I hope there are great players, (advertised) available at #7. I hope everyone is knocking at our door to swap picks. I hope we are smart enough to take the picks.
March 24th, 2018 at 1:51 pm
James (rd 1). We need a DB/Safety desperately and who’s playing opposite Grimes? Michel (hopefully rd 2). I like Michel’s tape he’s a relentless runner and isn’t afraid of contact which will work well with (the supposed) “culture change” and new “nastiness” in TB.
March 24th, 2018 at 1:53 pm
Are people forgetting we need an explosive RB? What about corner who the hell is playing opposite Grimes? Ryan Smith?
March 24th, 2018 at 1:54 pm
@ DestinJohnny says:
“I think Guice and Sony will both be better than Barkley”.
Good thing this nut job isn’t in charge of anything…but his clueless wit, heaven forbid being in charge of draft picks. I mean…where does one start with people like this?! It makes you smile in fear for their own intellectual well-being in other walks of life.
Who else seems like a likely team to trade up into the Top 10 Bucs fans??
Go Bucs!
March 24th, 2018 at 2:01 pm
TonyC- watch Guice tape- he is a tough SOB!! I am a Sony guy too- I think someone will take him Late 1, JMO. His pass catching is fantastic.
March 24th, 2018 at 2:23 pm
I still think we need to move D.Smith to guard and maybe sign a tackle or daft a tackle
March 24th, 2018 at 2:28 pm
I am liking what I am seeing!It looks like the Bucs are finally getting serious about fixing both lines. Great moves so far. Keep looking for good fits through trades and kill the draft. Licht is good at finding diamonds there. Let’s hope for another couple of finds for the back half of the D and a good running back. Separate topic. Looks like the Bucs knew better than Joe when it comes to Mr Bennet. Seems the big guy is an animal off the field too. Indicted for assault on an elderly parapeligic. Great move not chasing that AH.No one we need walking the streets of Tampa Bay and can give a squat how many sacks he gets. Hope he. Gets sacked for this one if true!
March 24th, 2018 at 2:52 pm
Tony from L.A.
I liked your post. Lot of good points.
I wouldn’t be so harsh if they take a RB early though. If they were picking a RB based solely on need I would agree but that’s not the case in this draft. There are lots of skilled RBs. It’s a good year to need one.
Say if Barkley falls. They have to take him if they believe he will be an elite player. You just can’t pass up an elite prospect, can you?
Aside from Barkley I’m sure they have a few RBs they like. If Guice or Sony or whoever falls to them round 2 and they think he can be a future 1k RB for us it’s a good pick. If they like some of the guard prospects better then the runners I’m fine with that too. Maybe they like somebody they think will be there in the fourth.
RB should be on their radar IMO. But at the end of the day they should be picking players not positions. Get the guys you like the most.
March 24th, 2018 at 2:57 pm
And if I’m Licht I am keeping in the back of my mind the whole offseason and draft process that next year is likely loaded with 4-3 Ends. This year seems to be a bit stronger at the DT position.
If I had to guess they won’t be drafting any Dlineman until later in the draft. Of course there’s always a possibility somebody drops in their lap. That’s part of the fun.
March 24th, 2018 at 3:01 pm
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REMAINING “NEEDS”:
(1) Starting RB … likely Saquon Barkley (I think he falls to #7)
(1) #2 CB … likely a 2nd rounder (Davis, Oliver, Tolliver, Dawson, etc)
(1) Starting SS … likely a 4th rounder (Terrell Edmunds, DeShone Elliott, etc)
(1) Rotational DE … likely a 5th rounder (Josh Sweat, Chad Thomas?)
(1) DT to back-up GMC … likely a 6th rounder (lots of options)
(1) Backup OG … likely a 6th rounder (lots of options)
(1) Return Specialist … likely a 7th rounder (DJ Reed!?!)
NOW, I’d like to see Licht sign a starting SS in free agency like Tre Boston or Kenny Vaccaro as well as a #2 CB like Brashaud Breeland, so that he doesn’t have to use picks on those positions and can maintain the flexibility to trade up if he wants … but … even if he doesn’t sign anyone else in free agency, we can be in good shape post-draft.
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March 24th, 2018 at 3:02 pm
If I’m the Bucs I get tunnel vision in the second round. I’m either going RB or guard. My guess is there will be a run in the end of round 1 on either RB or interior lineman. Whichever group is stronger is the way they will draft IMO.
Anybody know if we pick ahead of of behind the Colts round 2? They have a lot o& the same needs we do.
March 24th, 2018 at 3:04 pm
NUT……What do you think of those second round CBs? I heard they were trash.
March 24th, 2018 at 3:06 pm
ALTEREDEGO,
BOTH Edmunds brothers are awesome … I’d be thrilled with Terrell Edmunds as our next starting SS and he could be had in the 4th round! He’s also a freak athlete like his brother and could be a perfect partner for Justin Evans.
March 24th, 2018 at 3:16 pm
Please issic stop posting your thoughts are a waste of memory space to read
March 24th, 2018 at 3:25 pm
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JIMMYJACK,
NONE of 2nd round CB’s excite me, but they could all be far, far, far better than Ryan Smith and Hargreaves, so I’d be happy if Licht drafted one … there is also a possibility one of the projected 1st round CBs (Jackson, Alexander and Hughes) slips into the 2nd round, which would be great.
I actually kind of like Holton Hill and JC Jackson … both may be problem children but they seem like 1st round talents … so, if a SS like Ronnie Harrison slipped into the 2nd and we drafted him and then added a Hill or Jackson in the 5th, that could be magnificent.
I REALLY hope Licht signs Breeland and either Tre Boston or Kenny Vaccaro so we don’t “need” to draft a CB or SS in the draft though, as I’d like to see us be able to trade up. Think Saquon in the first, Arden Key in the 2nd, RJ McIntosh in the 4th, OT Desmond Harrison in the 5th and then using the 2-6ths to move back into the 5th for the best OG available and finally using our 7th rounder on RS/CB DJ Reed … THAT would be an awesome draft!
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March 24th, 2018 at 3:29 pm
I completely agree with NFL NUT. If we didn’t have to waste the pack a corner or safety then we could trade down and get more picks with Buffalo. If we could get both of Buffalo’s 1st rounders for our 7th overall I do it and they are desperate for quarterback and pissed off the jets got in front of him. We all know Cleveland and the jets are taking a quarterback Buffalo needs to make sure they get their guy this could work
March 24th, 2018 at 3:30 pm
ISSIC,
Chubb is not an “elite” DE prospect, but he’s the best in this draft by far and the Bucs should be happy if they land him at #7 imho.
Daniel Jeremiah recently ranked him 5th out of 10 DE’s drafted since Clowney and Mack.
If I remember correctly, his list was:
1. Myles Garrett
2. Jadeveon Clowney
3. Khalil Mack
4. Joey Bosa
5. BRADLEY CHUBB
6. Dante Fowler Jr.
7-10 … I don’t remember the names
I think the above is solid and I compared Chubb to Bosa in the past.
March 24th, 2018 at 3:36 pm
Nut…..Agreed on that for signing those positions and not needing to draft there.
I would just rather see us draft from the strength of this class in round 2. From what I’ve seen the strength will be guard or RB. Of course if they get Barkley, or somebody drops like you said, that changes things.
If they don’t have a sure fix at CB avialable for draft they need to fix it another way.
March 24th, 2018 at 3:38 pm
^ Yeah, this is an extremely deep RB, OG and DT draft
March 24th, 2018 at 3:38 pm
I’m not sold on wanting to trade down. I think we would be better off with one of the top 3.
It used to be top 4 including Fitzpatrick but his stock has went down for some reason…….What’s the issue? Did he have a bad combine or get in trouble?
March 24th, 2018 at 3:39 pm
That is correct I saw that to. Chubb is the real deal.
I work with Cameron Brate cousin. He told me the Bucs are high on Fitzpatrick. They believe he is the best option in the secondary if we choose to go in that direction. I’d like to sign bashad breeland and go with a draft trade down to get extra picks. I think we could wind up with both of Buffalo’s 1st round picks and get Davenport as well
March 24th, 2018 at 3:43 pm
Hahaha there is no such thing as a real deal in the draft. History has proven that.
March 24th, 2018 at 3:45 pm
You don’t get a chubb for chubb?
March 24th, 2018 at 3:47 pm
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NOTHING is wrong with Minkah Fitzpatrick, I love that kid and consider him an ELITE prospect. He’s also basically a choirboy off the field, devout Christian, doesn’t drink, natural leader, etc., so no concerns there. He just doesn’t get a lot of “buzz” as he’s viewed as a hybrid SS/CB rather than a pure corner.
As for trading down … I’d be happy if we traded the #7 to the Bills for the #12, #22 and #96 and in fact would prefer it.
Would you rather have:
SAQUON … or Derwin + Nick Chubb + Derrick Nnandi
NELSON … or Joshua Jackson + Will Hernandez + Rashaad Penny
CHUBB … or Davenport + Taven Bryan + Frank Ragnow
Personally, I’d take the “or” in all three scenarios … I like Chubb, love Nelson and am over the moon about Saquon BUT none of those three are worth three solid players imho.
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March 24th, 2018 at 3:47 pm
Vea
Sony
Landry
Mortgage the entire draft for all I care. Imo these are critical pieces to the game
March 24th, 2018 at 3:53 pm
Meat head sign a funking CB now you effen idiot.
March 24th, 2018 at 3:54 pm
Nut…..If I’m sitting at 7 and strongly feel that whoever is there will be an elite/pro bowl type of player then I’m not trading my pick. Now if I think I can get a pro bowl type player at 12 that changes things.
I just think it’s a matter of evaluation. How big of a talent gap is there’s between 7 and 12. If the Bucs think there is a huge gap I wouldn’t make the trade.
March 24th, 2018 at 3:55 pm
Love Chubb love Barkley and love Nelson I really like fitz derwin and ward. So with all that being said I think we could get Davenport at 12 if we traded with buffalo and in NFL Nuts proposed scenario we could end up with any combination of those players he mentioned with buffalos second first and one of their seconds. Damn this sound confusing sorry guys I’m just really excited about this team for the first time since we won the Superbowl
March 24th, 2018 at 3:57 pm
Some folks are saying that’s Nelson is one of the greatest prospects they have ever saw. Some are saying Barkley is the second coming of B. Sanders….. Not saying they res right or wrong but I do thinking the Bucs would be wrong to pass on somebody they thought was that good.
Just a matter of how high they are on Chubb,Barkley,Nelson,Fitzpatrick IMO
March 24th, 2018 at 4:01 pm
If I’m making a trade and thinking I can get Davenport/Vae At #12 then I’d have to have them rated pretty close to whoever I’m passing on at 7.
March 24th, 2018 at 4:01 pm
This will be the year that player trades reemerge as trade day strategy…. watch
March 24th, 2018 at 4:04 pm
Either way…..We are all going to have our own opinions. None of it really matters. Only the Bucs opinion will matter.
I’m cool with whatever they do. They have proven they know how to find talent on draft day.
March 24th, 2018 at 4:08 pm
Trade down with buffalo get both their picks if Nelson Chubb Barkley aren’t there at 7. Plus I don’t bible thumping choir boy players on this team. We have too many nice guys. We need to get tough and physical
March 24th, 2018 at 4:16 pm
Cowboys also thin at receiver Bryant may be cut if he doesn’t take pay cut and Jason Witten is older, maybe they make a move for DeShawn Jackson, his value is higher with a team that has an accurate passer. Reunite with Cousins and the Vikings? There are several teams he’s a better fit for than Tampa.
Niners can use him too. He’s not the “need” for Bucs anymore with Godwin and Howard, both have speed and better size than Jackson.
March 24th, 2018 at 4:23 pm
Let’s not worry about the offense right now that’s the least of our problems right now we need to be worried about our awful secondary I’m so tired of watching conte play. And hardgraves has been a huge disappointment. Grimes is ok but old and brittle. We need help at corner we need a short saffety
March 24th, 2018 at 4:24 pm
DRAFT NELSON CHUBB BARKLEY IF THERE AT 7 IF NOT TRADE DOWN FOR 2 FIRSTS AND A SECOND FROM BUFFALO
March 24th, 2018 at 4:30 pm
@JimmyJack – I like that you are looking ahead to next year’s draft many don’t do that and it is a factor in this year’s draft.
Like NUT said our best case is trading back in the draft and hopefully it’s for either the Bills 1st and 2nd rounders this year or another team’s picks this year and a first next year.
We need a SS, CB (1 just to get to even, 2 to have any depth), RB (I would prefer two rookies here in addition to Barber), DE (Davenport getting a season to develop behind JPP and Curry would be ideal and smart), OG, OT, and DT.
I know we can’t get all of those filled in the draft but to get half of them filled would be nice.
March 24th, 2018 at 4:36 pm
I can’t believe were all on the same page on Joe bucsfan this is unheard of… I’m waiting for someone to start talking about trading Gerald McCoy to bring this back to reality… La Marcus? Issic? Depressed bucs fans are you there?
I love GMC
March 24th, 2018 at 5:28 pm
Alan
GMC can’t be traded. He needs to be released so we can start winning
March 24th, 2018 at 5:32 pm
There he is! Haha awesome!
La Marcus GMC is the face of the franchise. The DT in the league. Master of the 3 technique and a run stopping machine! We can’t release him…. You know now that we got JPP here to help bring him to his peak bro
March 24th, 2018 at 5:39 pm
Alan,
GMC is a nice player.
Aaron Donald is the best 3 technique in the game.
March 24th, 2018 at 5:39 pm
Winston and Kwon are the new faces of the franchise IMO. Both need to step up and take control of this team.
GMC is done. He was not very good last year. He do anything noteworthy in the first half of the season or so…….Well see maybe he plays better with new players around him. I really think they need to keep him off the field more and keep him fresher.
March 24th, 2018 at 5:50 pm
GMC is face of the losing years. When he goes to the ring of honor and has his name in the stadium I’ll always remember these basement years.
And he is a quitter.
March 24th, 2018 at 5:53 pm
Alan
You don’t make sense. Why does he needs JPP for him to be elite?? That don’t make sense. You even doubt him
March 24th, 2018 at 5:56 pm
I’m just being sarcastic to get you going. But GMC is a great DT regardless if you All bash him
March 24th, 2018 at 6:03 pm
The GMC hate is so stupid, he gets this bad reputation because fans still expect him to be an elite top notch DT. That’s not what he is. He is however, a very good DT and would start on any 4-3 team in the NFL. GMC is a tier 2 defensive tackle. Once fans can accept that he’s not an elite double digit game wrecker, the GMC hate will go down. He is what he is.
March 24th, 2018 at 6:06 pm
When the season starts, Brees will be 4 months away from his 40th birthday. He’s going to fade soon enough.
March 24th, 2018 at 6:06 pm
Everybody has their own opinion. I never thought GMC was great but I do think he is a very good player. I saw him slowing down last year but he did start to come on strong so there’s something left in his tank.
I also don’t care that he was the face of the franchise. I don’t let ESPN interviews and media heads tell me how to think. It’s easy to believe everything you hear, sorry to all the McCoy believers(nut huggers, dreamers) that got duped.
March 24th, 2018 at 6:09 pm
I’ll be the first one to say that Gerald McCoy is overrated based on the praise he gets in the National media and all the pro bowl appearances, but he is still a quality player and important piece the dline. The constant hate makes no sense……Gerald McCoy is not Aaron Donald.
March 24th, 2018 at 6:16 pm
The tough thing about McCoy is that he was the face of the franchise. But Most of that franchise was Mark Dominick’s and Lovie Smith’s franchise.
Those were six years of some very bad and poorly constructed teams.
Go back starting from 2010 and think about what other players stick out in your mind for making big plays and winning us games? TbH the only one who was memorable might be Vjax and Donald Penn…..I’m sure there are more but the point is there should be a lot of players jumping out at you when you look back on all those years. Pretty freaking sad……Friggen Yucs
March 24th, 2018 at 6:16 pm
a little perspective….for years Gerald McCoy was considered the best player on the team. Game day broadcasters had to come up with something nice to say about the Bucs….and besides that McCoy has “the fastest get off “
March 24th, 2018 at 6:36 pm
Just read this on a PFT comment:
“It would be kind of cool if Tampa also drafted Shaquem Griffin. The new Tampa two.”
Thoughts?
March 24th, 2018 at 6:37 pm
Sign bashad breeland
March 24th, 2018 at 6:46 pm
Tbucs
I always hear how good he is but when I watch the games he is:
Running into double teams
Can’t break the doubles – can’t finish what he started
Poor in the run game- teams run his way for a reason
Claims he is the team leader in wins but a role player when we lose
8 games a year he invisible- plays like a undrafted free agent
Is only a 3t tech and 3 tech only- sorry 3-4 guys
Can’t stunt
Weak spin move-in gets caught in the middle of a spin move looks like he giving up his booty( see the Arizona game first AP touchdown run for example)
Wants to just run straight- out of shape
March 24th, 2018 at 6:47 pm
@Tbbucs3
“The GMC hate is so stupid, he gets this bad reputation because fans still expect him to be an elite top notch DT. That’s not what he is.”
Part of the problem is that is what he is paid like. If he is being paid top notch DT money it is fair to expect top notch DT results.
March 24th, 2018 at 6:47 pm
Can anyone here tell me his strength?
A quick step and then he quits just to play Patty cake ….his favorite game.
March 24th, 2018 at 6:48 pm
Joeypoppems
Thank you!!! 1 million a game? Gtfoh
March 24th, 2018 at 6:52 pm
93 game great game !
room
March 24th, 2018 at 6:54 pm
Bucs are bringing in FA HB/KR Benny Cunningham for a visit. Yea, who the eff is he?
March 24th, 2018 at 6:55 pm
Gmc Patty cake bakers man game is great. He probably can beat the Mother Goose herself
March 24th, 2018 at 6:57 pm
Cunningham is ok back. For 3rd string. If I remember he played on the Rams and he burnt us on a kick return or punt return when he was on the Rams
March 24th, 2018 at 6:59 pm
@lambchop
Benny Cunningham was the Rams receiving back for a few years.
March 24th, 2018 at 7:06 pm
As far as this article goes, yes. It would be a huge mistake for Licht to settle on this potential pass rush. I still expect them to draft a DE. Round 4 maybe? They gotta get a RB in the 2nd round since, as of now, they dont have a 3rd round pick.
I would prioritize other positions over DE in the first round tho, unless Chubb still falls to #7. I’m on the Derwin James bandwagon at #7 tho.
As the draft gets closer and closer Im growing more and more afraid that Barkley will be there at #7 and the Bucs actually pick him.
March 24th, 2018 at 7:08 pm
@Larmarcus
I definitely agree with some of your points but when you say stuff like “can’t stunt and has a weak spin move” that ultimately comes down to his style of play. Gerald McCoy is a head on player meaning he’s best when he can stay square and in his lane to use his quick get off and hand techniques.
Would you criticize Lesean McCoy for not being being able to truck linebackers over or Mike Evans for not being able to burn DBs on go routes? It all comes down to style of play.
@Joey
Have to agree there that he is overpaid but there are overpaid players on every team. Our new center, Ryan Jensen, is overpaid. So is our new kicker.
March 24th, 2018 at 7:11 pm
Tbbucs3
Agree with you. I have to look at msmith when he calls stunts. Does he calls stunts cuz they can’t even the job done just going straight? Maybe
March 24th, 2018 at 7:12 pm
Joey…..Barkley….BOOM!!…..Draft done……Playoff bound!!!!!
March 24th, 2018 at 7:13 pm
GMC is the Dwight Howard of the NFL
March 24th, 2018 at 7:16 pm
I’ve read a lot of fans clamoring for Fitzpatrick. I say if you can’t Barkley, Chubb or Nelson you Get Derwin James! Or you trade down! Derwin James over Minkah Fitzpatrick all day everyday!
March 24th, 2018 at 7:20 pm
One thing that needs to change and it has nothing to do with free agency or the draft. They have gotta get these guys to square up and make their tackles on defense! Way way way to many missed tackles last year. Smitty needs to get his butt down on the field and out of the booth. Get on them during the game. Coaching needs to be better 110 percent!
March 24th, 2018 at 7:43 pm
Trade down. You will still pick up an extra draft pick to compensate for losing a 3rd rounder. And..Another DE and Defensive back will be available in the 2nd and 3rd rds. BE smart Bucs. You are doing pretty good thus far.
March 24th, 2018 at 8:16 pm
In the end job mccoy is a top 5 defensive tackle in this league and regardless of what you guys feel about him it doesn’t matter much. Lets just win some football games
March 24th, 2018 at 8:53 pm
Since realistically we aren’t getting Chubb the 2nd best pass rushing option to me is Marcus Davenport. To all the people pounding the table for Derwin at 7 SS is not a priority, and as much of a beast as Quenton Nelson is we could easily pick up Braden Smith in the 2nd. Pass rusher is the priority and you can never have enough of them.
March 24th, 2018 at 9:12 pm
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I’m thrilled everyone is on board with my, “Saquon, Chubb or Nelson or TRADE DOWN” philosophy … I have little doubt Licht and various individuals in the Bucs organization read these boards … they need to feel the pressure and not waste the #7 pick on some DT or developmental DE.
Now, JIMMYJACK … I agree with you about the pick or trade being all about evaluation … I guess I just value some of the guys who would go in that #12-22 range more than others might.
I think there is a massive “talent gap” between Saquon and every other RB in this draft and I love Saquon and would be jumping for joy if the Bucs get him at #7 … but … even I don’t think he’s as valuable as Derwin James (12) + Joshua Jackson (22) + Derrick Nnandi (96), especially as we could get Nick Chubb in the 2nd round.
However, I don’t think Licht can “blow it” unless he loses his mind and takes Marcus Davenport or Viti Vea with that #7 pick.
I’ll be over the moon if we trade down for the #12, #22 and #96, also over the moon if we get Saquon at #7 and will be thrilled if we get Bradley Chubb or Quenton Nelson or Minkah Fitzpatrick at #7, and I’ll be very happy if we get Denzel Ward or Derwin James at #7 as well … any other players than those 6 players though and I’ll be disgusted.
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March 24th, 2018 at 9:31 pm
Nflnut
U play way too much Madden.
March 24th, 2018 at 10:22 pm
Ryan Smith is still your #2 corner and Chris Conte is still a starting safety. They are literally the two worst guys at their position in the NFL and the Bucs are starting them as of right now. Putting your entire season on the draft is a very very dangerous thing to do since you don’t even know who will be available. Still with JPP things are not completely hopefully – if the Bucs draft Ward in the 1st he seems (seems) like a guy that can start day one and then the Bucs would have to hope VH3 bounces back to be the 3rd corner, then the Bucs can try to get a safety at the top of the 2nd or maybe with some excellent scouting and luck they can get one in the 4th if they take a RB in the 2nd. Personally I’d get skip the RB all together and draft corner, corner, safety, corner, OL and probably another corner.
March 24th, 2018 at 11:15 pm
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Lamarcus,
Why would you say that? I’m a little old for Madden and video games of any kind in general, though I do like Tetris.
Anyways, NOTHING I said above is related to any sort of video-game and the trade I have been talking about for over a month, namely the #7 to the Bills for the #12, #22 and #96 is 100% realistic and is based on the values of each pick according to online draft value sites.
Regardless, I’ve always been spot-on with most everything I’ve ever typed on this site and it seems most of the posters are fully on board with my, “Saquon, Chubb, Nelson or trade down” philosophy, so I’m happy. Now, I’m just hoping Jason Licht is also on board.
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March 24th, 2018 at 11:50 pm
Lamarcus Says:
March 24th, 2018 at 7:13 pm
GMC is the Dwight Howard of the NFL
Lmao, so true. The comparison reminds me of a cockroach on it’s back. A whole lot of vigorous motion with nothing to show for it.
If he can’t perform now with the help on the DL, he will definitely be labelled a disappointment. Not a bust. But I think we’ll either see him benefit or some of the others. Before, we never had anyone causing nightmares for the offense except GMC so teams could gameplan for him without worrying about any other lineman. This season will draw the line on the sand so everyone can see what caliber of player he really is.
March 25th, 2018 at 12:29 am
^ Dwight Howard will be a first ballot HOF’er … I’m not sure GMC will be …
March 25th, 2018 at 4:44 am
Dwight Howard is not a HOFer. It would be a stain on the HOF if he got in. There are too many big men who actually won something.
March 25th, 2018 at 5:03 am
@Nfl Nut,
I play Madden all the time. And I assume that you do too. Because
Well………..everyone does
I play Because I really know the game and playing Madden sharpens my already encyclopedic knowledge. Do you wear a uniform when you play? I do because it’s a serious mental training tool. See it’s not the same.
You and everyone else plays Madden like fantasy football. It’s just too much like your draft picks , fantasy football. I know how to properly put together a T.E.A.M
You have any idea what that stands for ………I have it all locked up right in here.
You…Lol.
Signed,
Mark from Quebec city
March 25th, 2018 at 7:24 am
Derwin James is a game changer and freak athlete and it would be nice to have another guy on the backend of the defense that makes offenses worry about where he is and what he’s doing and the best part of all is fear to get hit by him. He is exactly what our defensive backfield needs.
March 25th, 2018 at 9:27 pm
Rashaad Penny is the anwser in the 3rd round oh wait