Ironman Poe On The Radar?
March 4th, 2018
Free-agency favorite?
With the free agency dinner bell ringing in 10 short days — TEN!! — it’s time to really consider what kind of free agent general manager Jason Licht wants, and what the team really needs.
And then hope the two thoughts marry up.
This brings Joe to the speculation of the day from CBS Sports NFL Insider Jason La Canfora. He sees Falcons free agent defensive tackle Dontari Poe circling Tampa.
Some executives I spoke too could see Dontari Poe staying in the NFC South, moving south from Atlanta to Tampa Bay. He put up strong film with the Falcons last year on a prove-it deal and the Skins, Broncos and Colts are among those who would have interest.
Joe liked Poe last year and that hasn’t changed. The 27-year-old, two-time Pro Bowler with the Chiefs is an ironman, Dude has missed two games in six seasons after Kansas City made him the No. 11 overall pick in 2011.
Now being an ironman isn’t everything. Booted Bucs loafer Chris Baker has missed just five games in the last six seasons. But Poe has always been more talented and meaner, and he’s got postseason experience.
Whatever you think of Poe, who has battled weight issues, he’s a serious upgrade and a guy worthy of guaranteed money over the next two seasons. And we can assume the guy who signed Baker last March still sees a crater in need of filling at the position.
If forced to choose, Joe would prefer an established edge rusher and a beastly rookie defensive tackle, but filling a hole and asking questions later is usually the better move.
March 4th, 2018 at 4:08 pm
27? Shouldn’t we be looking for Defensive linemen in their mid 30’s?
March 4th, 2018 at 4:09 pm
Did you say he was mean Joe?
We’ll be having none of that on our team.
March 4th, 2018 at 4:23 pm
Does he like the Museum of Ice Cream?
March 4th, 2018 at 4:26 pm
Poe has a slightly MEAN streak in him. He can play nasty. So that excludes him from our roster! We want nice pied pipin Jethro Tulls on our team!!
March 4th, 2018 at 4:26 pm
I’d take Poe. If you can’t get to the QB from the edge then flush the QB out of the pocket by putting pressure up the middle.
March 4th, 2018 at 4:29 pm
A lot of big interior guys in this draft. One major interior guy in FA(Poe) and ZERO edge rushers. It’s a bucs life
March 4th, 2018 at 4:31 pm
This was a player I hoped we chase last season. I honestly would rather sign him than draft Vea.
One consideration, since the front office/coaching staff thinks we are so close, why not offer the Colts, #7 and our #1 from next year for the number 3 pick and make Bradley Chubb a Buccaneer? I’ve been pondering this for a little while and I’m not sold on it quite yet, but if you believe Chubb is closer to Garrett than Barnett, which I believe, then maybe it makes sense.
If we are that close hopefully the pick will be closer to a second round next season.
March 4th, 2018 at 4:34 pm
Weight issues next to the Ice Cream himself?? Not a fit from afar. Make sure the ice cream is FLAT- FREE
March 4th, 2018 at 4:37 pm
I liked Poe also last year, but obviously his $8 mil price tag was too rich for GM Licht (managed to ‘save’ the Glazer Boyz a whopping $2 mil by corralling Baker instead). But thankfully Spotrac now pegs Poe’s market value at around $6 mil a year, so maybe Jason will see the licht.
BTW Joe, I’m with you on grabbing a beastly rookie DT & an established edge rusher (although that ship might’ve sailed with Robert Quinn). Even if we sign Poe & re-sign McDonald, I’d still prefer that we draft a beastly DT (like Vea or Payne) AND draft 2 DEs in addition to that (hopefully we hit on 1 of the 2). Imagine an interior DLine with GMC, Poe, McDonald & Vea (or Payne). An interior like that could stay fresh all game & keep collapsing the pocket through the middle (and stopping the middle run), making it easier for our big DEs to secure the edges & exert pressure on the QB from the sides.
March 4th, 2018 at 4:42 pm
i with you on this one Joe. I would love to see Poe with the BUCs. Fill the damn hole
March 4th, 2018 at 4:45 pm
Sign Poe, Draft Vea, and all of a sudden this team has the foundation for a formidable 3-4 front. They could still run a 1-gap scheme to let Gerald do his thing.
March 4th, 2018 at 4:54 pm
Saw him play in Atlanta last year.He is a beast with a high motor.I say Jason better look into getting this one.
March 4th, 2018 at 4:59 pm
Many of you don’t realize Joe schedules posts here often far in advance. –Joe
March 4th, 2018 at 4:59 pm
Trade down get an extra 2, draft Harold Landry 1st, Josh Sweat 2nd and Nathan Shepherd the other 2nd, 3rd round Penny or Chubb will hopefully be there, we get 2 6’5 250 pound DEs with superior athletic traits, a 6’5 310 beastly DT, really hoping one of those 4 QBS drop to 7, don’t even need both 1st from Buffalo take a 1, 2, and 4 we need more picks
March 4th, 2018 at 5:03 pm
Sign him up!
I hope Licht doesn’t “cringe at the expectations” and screw the pooch on this one too.
Robert Quinn, Marcus Peters, Calais Campbell would all do wonders for the pewter pirates. We struck out hard, and it’s tough to tell if our swbig and miss for Quinn was a legit hack or a check swing?
Either way, we need to improve this defense in the worst way.
Go Bucs!
I still don’t see the Rams turning down our 3rd and a swap of 6’s, rather having miami’s 4th. Did our GM get cute, or did we make the strongest offer? If we made the strongest offer and it didn’t go our way, that’s ok. But to think this is the same dude who traded a 3 and 4 to draft Aguayo, and shipped off a 5 for houseplant sackless Johnson. We need to be better this year. Patience are gone, and JoeBucsFans should not be presenting better solutions than the actual Bucs brain trust. Bring on the talent, Licht, and don’t undersell the fans. Our eyesight works, and we can see this team needs an edge rush in the worst way. We also could see that Doug Martin was toast, but you wanted to pay him $6 million, and have Coach Koetter mention that we didn’t have the dough for Calais Campbell.
March 4th, 2018 at 5:05 pm
Would be nice
March 4th, 2018 at 5:29 pm
Upgraded *7 New Players On Defense*
• $20M On Defensive Line
• $20M On Defensive Back Field
RDE Noah Spence | Will Clarke | *Ade Aruna
RDT *Dontari Poe | *B.J. Hill
LDT Gerald McCoy | William Gholston
LDE *Muhammad Wilkerson | *Denico Autry
WLB Lavonte David | Nigel Harris
MLB Kwon Alexander | Riley Bullough
SLB Kendell Beckwith | Devante Bond
CB *Ross Cockrell | Ryan Smith
CB *Bashaud Breeland | David Rivers
CB Vernon Hargreaves | *Arrion Springs
FS Chris Conte | *Armani Watts
SS Justin Evans | *Kenny Vaccarro
Note: Can create another $18M+ by converting both Gerald McCoy’s & William Gholston’s (2018) salaries – into signing bonus.
Now U have:
– Average Defensive Line Unit – Infused w/youth
– Above Average Linebacker Unit
– Talented Young Cornerback Unit
– Talented Young Safety Unit
March 4th, 2018 at 5:39 pm
Curry just got release from the eagles
March 4th, 2018 at 5:42 pm
Jenna Laine reported that the Bucs only offered a 4th for Quinn. Smh. That extra 6th will really come in handy lol
March 4th, 2018 at 5:49 pm
Sign curry
March 4th, 2018 at 6:11 pm
Well now…i called for this last year with my
#bringhomeDPoe
March 4th, 2018 at 6:25 pm
Teams are trying to trade for Curry now. Prolly the Bucs!
March 4th, 2018 at 6:26 pm
Trade a 7th for curry
March 4th, 2018 at 6:29 pm
Curry
29yrs
3 sacks in 2017…
Please explain his signing. How exactly would he help us? Can be help Spawn reach his full potential? His production last year…ehh
What am I missing
March 4th, 2018 at 6:31 pm
Hell Yeah Add Curry to the Rotation
March 4th, 2018 at 6:38 pm
Cool your Jets Bucs fans! 🙂 This Bucs fan has been pining for Vinny Curry for awhile…awhile if some have seem the prior posts, but Ian Rapoport (who you know can’t really be counted on for much “breaking”) says that he”may be released. PFT says…may. So if PFT hasn’t said that it actually happened, then maybe it hasn’t.
@Buccaneer Scotty is spot on, that if PHI is desperate, as it appears so, a 7th rounder is fair to take on a young 29/30 DE that is HEALTHY, and a perfect 4-3 fit for Buckner. Nevermind Smitty or any of that. $9 million for a younger 29/30 (only because they are forced to pay Brandon Graham at other DE position there)…is well worth if for the Bucs! AND NO BACK ISSUES like Quinn, nevermind Quinn did that because of Donald, perhaps.
Go Bucs!
March 4th, 2018 at 6:44 pm
I like the idea of shoring up our interior line for now and for the future.
Licht still has to make something happen at End. A stopgap player, or two, wouldn’t be a bad plan because DE options next year will be a lot stronger then this year. Possible candidates I’m hoping for would be Bennett, Peppers or JPP. I also think they should consider Wilkerson and bring him in for at least a interview.
March 4th, 2018 at 6:46 pm
Definitely intrigued by Ade Aruna now after the combine. Size/athleticism is elite. Would be a good player for Buckner to mold
March 4th, 2018 at 6:50 pm
Yeah, he had the 2 most snaps @ DE but only produced 3 sacks? Red flag
March 4th, 2018 at 6:55 pm
Early today on NFL trade rumor said eagles was releasing Curry. Now it is saying the Eagles are trying to trade him, get his cap number down or are going to release him. It also say he is 22 rated pass rusher of 109.
March 4th, 2018 at 6:55 pm
Yeah we need proven pass rushers….you know it…..I know it……Licht has to know it too, right?
March 4th, 2018 at 7:01 pm
Sign Poe draft Vea…interior on smash…Hulk SMASH
March 4th, 2018 at 7:03 pm
Licht’s head must be spinning trying to make up his mind after reading JBF’s comment sections….everyone needs to back up and give the man some room to make up his own mind 😉
March 4th, 2018 at 7:07 pm
I agree Tnew, trade up to #3 Colts if possible and grab Chubb, reminds me of Bennette. Or I also agree with Guzziep, trade down and grab more picks in 2nd round, we need more Cbs even for depth issue. Our depth stinks not to mention starters.
March 4th, 2018 at 7:08 pm
I went back to the last article and read that Cameron Wake could be in play during free agency…..I’d be more then happy with signing him or Bennett or Peppers. Add that with a Poe signing and we won’t be looking too bad on the line.
Adding Vea is intriguing but I think they may need to snag a CB instead unless Nelson is sitting there. What we do in free agency should kinda tell us if we are drafting a CB in the first few runds
March 4th, 2018 at 8:04 pm
It’s a good year for CBs,DTs, and RBs.
I don’t think Poe AND Vea would do much for us. Don’t knees both, but we definitely need one of them.
March 4th, 2018 at 8:04 pm
Don’t need both*****^^^^^
March 4th, 2018 at 8:19 pm
I like him. Good long term investment. Solid player.
March 4th, 2018 at 8:21 pm
They should have signed Dontari Poe last season.
March 4th, 2018 at 8:27 pm
Don’t count on any real FA pick up
We will draft a few good players
The team will stay losing and only half full the stand
WHY
Because these are your New London Bucs
Tampa is a small market Glazers want Bigger
March 4th, 2018 at 8:34 pm
I think 99% of Bucs fans would have rather had Poe than Swaggy last year … same holds true this year.
I’m still rather disgusted that the draft isn’t BEFORE free agency … it’s just so nonsensical as-is.
March 4th, 2018 at 8:42 pm
Mike evans goat
I didnt see that yet about the quinn offer. I knew he must have tried to low ball them. Epic fail by licht. As many 3rd round picks he trades away during the draft and he cant give one up for a proven, game changing pass rusher. I’ll never get that one. Its surprising because he is on his way out if they dont go big this year. A 3rd could have taken quinn. And he didnt do it. Wow. Well lets see who he trades up for this year and gives that 3rd to.
March 4th, 2018 at 8:48 pm
Licht might think he can get Earl Thomas for a 3rd rounder … or … like I said before, he may feel that he’d rather have a 3rd round rookie DE and use the salary cap space Quinn would have occupied on a starting CB or DT or SS … people need to chill.
March 4th, 2018 at 8:49 pm
Just saw falcons are in talks with seahawks for bennett. If licht misses out on bennett too I’m done with him. Quinn and bennett available, gota get one. Id have gotten both if i were him. They could have been the 3rd and 4th round draft picks this year. 2 guys who could produce 20 sacks. Naaaa says licht.
March 4th, 2018 at 8:56 pm
Will Gholston and Robert Ayers will be the Bucs starting DEs this season. I will bet the farm on it.
March 4th, 2018 at 8:59 pm
I mention it last night that the Falcons were trying to trade for Michael Bennett to replace Adrian Clayborn.
March 4th, 2018 at 9:00 pm
NFL,
Chill? Yes because we have sooo much faith in JL. Hey, He’s earned that trust …
with such bold moves as ………….wait hold the f up. What is the the reason for this trust again, I missed it.
March 4th, 2018 at 9:00 pm
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^ A GM can’t just get every good player that becomes available as there is a salary cap and he needs to be financially prudent.
By the way, Marcus Peters, a top 5 CB in his prime and on a cheap deal was just traded for a mere 4th this year and 2nd next year … what’s an old, bad locker-room guy like Bennett worth? A 6th and that’s about it … if the Falcons get him for a 4th, so what … the Bucs shouldn’t make dumb deals just to make a splash, they should be smart and build for the long-term.
I don’t care that they missed on Peters due to his “issues”, don’t care at all that they missed on Quinn if he has a back issue (remember JR Sweezy?) and won’t care at all if they miss out on Michael Bennett.
I’d rather them sign quality free agents in their prime and without health issues than lose picks in a trade for old players or guys with health or off-field issues any day.
Let’s say we would have traded our 4th for Peters, a 3rd for Quinn and a then a 5th for Bennett … and signed no one in free agency as those three represent around $20mil in new salary.
Instead, we could use the 3rd round pick on CB Anthony Averett, the 4th on DE Chad Thomas and the 5th on DT Kendrick Norton and use the $20mil in cap space on G Andrew Norwell and SS Eric Reid.
So, everyone is freaking out that we maybe could have had Quinn with a bad back, Peters with his issues and old man, malcontent Michael Bennett, but we could end up with Andrew Norwell, Eric Reid, Anthony Averett, Chad Thomas and Kendrick Norton … I’ll be fine with the latter!
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March 4th, 2018 at 9:02 pm
LAKELAND,
I’d be surprised if Ayers and Gholston are starting … maybe one but not both imho
March 4th, 2018 at 9:02 pm
But the Falcons already has 2 good young edge rushers and good young DT
March 4th, 2018 at 9:04 pm
Yup ……….Falcons are negotiating with the Seachickens for Bennett. What an arse kick that would be
March 4th, 2018 at 9:09 pm
Don’t put all blame on licht glazers have made his job nearly impossible. Thanks to glazers bucs are clearly a joke that other teams play to get better deals. Bucs are UNDISPUTED least desirable location in nfl
March 4th, 2018 at 9:10 pm
Best we can hope for is 4-12 truth hurts but reality is undeniable
March 4th, 2018 at 9:13 pm
If Bennett comes here he will go to sleep. If he goes to Atlanta he will have a career year just to stick it to the ownership.
Bucs are mentally damaged in all levels
March 4th, 2018 at 9:20 pm
@NFLNut … “the Bucs shouldn’t make dumb deals just to make a splash, they should be smart and build for the long-term.” You’re right on BOTH counts Nut, BUT … that’s not what we’ve been doing. Our BEST record in the past 10 years is 10-6 plus 2 x 9-7 finishes and the remaining 7 seasons were losing records. Zero playoff appearances. Don’t you think that perhaps TEN years is enough time to “build for the long-term”?
We’ve only had ONE owner and TWO GMs during that period (plus FIVE HCs) so turnover in upper management isn’t a real issue. Performance of that management certainly is however. They ARE the ones responsible for picking the HCs and for signing the players. They’ve certainly made more than their share of dumb deals, but building for the future? Not so much. Fifth year of Licht’s tenure and by my estimate we need NINE new starters plus a LOT better depth.
March 4th, 2018 at 9:21 pm
OMG, I just agreed with tmaxcon. The world just became a frightening place.
March 4th, 2018 at 9:25 pm
Wanted Poe last year get him get bennet Andrew Norwell just spend that money get ppl here
March 4th, 2018 at 9:32 pm
Defense Rules
Welcome to reality or the dark side
March 4th, 2018 at 9:39 pm
DEFENSERULES,
I think you misunderstood me.
When I said Licht shouldn’t do dumb deals just to make a splash and should instead build for the future, I was NOT saying he should build in such a way that success will be a long way off.
I simply meant that it’s better to sign guys in their prime or on cheap rookie deals so that they can play 4-5 years of quality football, than guys with injury or other issues that might give you one good year and then be a drain on your salary cap after that.
March 5th, 2018 at 12:38 am
Nfl,
While agree with you in principle, it’s the waiting for JL to make any of the moves you suggest or any other deals that you apparently believe may materialize. I don’t know what JL has planned, nor do you. I am skeptical based on history. JL’ s history as the bucs GM. I don’t believe that there is enough evidence to support an optimistic viewpoint.
Therefore, I will take a wait and see approach. If JL delivers, fantastic! But I don’t believe in wasting time fantasizing about possible deals or draft picks that amount to nothing more than a collection of possibilities. The team will not improve if choices remain possibilities. Choices require trade offs that is just part of life. Possibilities exchange choices for hope. I don’t believe hope is the best way to be successful.
March 5th, 2018 at 2:45 am
holy moly, atrain might have hit on something…do you think the glazers are killing off their own fanbase with the idea of moving the team to london?…i mean hey, they are flopping out from ever angle, raising ticket prices and losing the core fans…is this a smart big picture business move to bounce right out of tampa in a couple years?…if it is, get ready folks…it’s about to get even uglier in tampa
March 5th, 2018 at 3:39 am
Desperately need a DE
Dont sign Robert Quinn, successful DE
Try to sign Poe- a DT
Welcome to the failure that is Bucs Football
Team is an embarrassment
March 5th, 2018 at 4:18 am
Capt Tim, you hit the nail on the head. There was a very successful DE (Quinn) on the trade block. Very successful GMs make the deal. No whining about ‘Rams didn’t want to see him stay in the same conference’. You MAKE THE DEAL when you’re desperate.
March 5th, 2018 at 6:45 am
I am with nfl nut…the buccs needs free agents with upside, not look for past productib or free agents with issues.
March 5th, 2018 at 7:43 am
If he comes at a reasonable price I’m all for signing him. I can’t wait for FA to start!
March 5th, 2018 at 8:55 am
Pass. Look, I don’t care if he’s mean. We need sacks, and he won’t get them. Period. You get us good sack masters on the line, and the LBs will stop the run if the line fails to do so.