“Every Year He Got Better”
March 30th, 2018
Bummed losing Vinny Curry.
The way a Super Bowl-winning coach bragged up one of his former players, the Bucs may have gotten a steal landing defensive end Vinny Curry this month.
At the NFL coaches breakfast this week during the NFL owners meeting in Orlando, Joe wanted to know more about Curry. So who better to talk to than his coach with the Eagles, Doug Pederson?
The way Pederson talked, he’s not happy Curry got away.
As we now know, Curry started all 19 games for the world champs last year and became expendable in part due to a necessary salary dump because the Eagles traded for Michael Bennett.
Curry was on the streets for only a matter of hours before Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht swooped in to sign him with six other teams.
“He’s kind of a speed-to-power guy,” Pederson described Curry. “He did an outstanding job for us [last] year just being able to rush the passer. We drafted him several years ago and every year he got better and better and better. And he made a big impact on our d-line last year.
“We rotate so many guys that [Curry] assumed his role and on third down he could move inside and play a tackle position if we needed to or play outside.
“His knack for the ball — that made him a real good player for us last year.”
Sounds like every trait the Bucs both needed and wanted from a defensive lineman last year.
Now they have a ballhawk. Combined with Jason Pierre-Paul, it is hard to envision, barring injuries, the Bucs being last in the NFL in sacks again this fall.
March 30th, 2018 at 3:32 am
Sounds like what we heard about Carrol being bummed about losing “mysterious back” Sweezy. So long as he doesn’t have any “mystery” injuries, and isn’t getting called out by rookies-ROOKIES!!-for being lazy, a la lardass Baker, I think our new coach Buckner can get maximum value out of Curry. It remains to be seen of course, but I’ll go out on a limb and say Buckner would have the inside track for DC, should we take a dump this season. Certainly hope it doesn’t come to that though.
March 30th, 2018 at 5:05 am
Feels good knowing our DBs won’t have to cover WRs for 6 Mississippi’s on passing downs…
March 30th, 2018 at 5:54 am
Hey Joe I have a question
Has a Coach every said to you “I’m glad we got rid of that guy.”
Coaches always say oh wish would could have kept that guy sorry to lose him
March 30th, 2018 at 6:27 am
97.5 in Philadelphia was not happy to see Curry go. From all I’ve seen and heard up here, we got a steal, and no issues on or off the field. No complaints from or about him. Our D is definitely better already, and there’s more to come.
March 30th, 2018 at 6:32 am
Hey Joe, you sure do have a lot of Debbie Downers on here.
March 30th, 2018 at 6:38 am
@ATrain haven’t heard a peep about anyone on this coaching staff saying they wish we kept Baker tho…
March 30th, 2018 at 7:27 am
Thanks for the 411 Sparky good insight.
March 30th, 2018 at 7:35 am
I am very encouraged over the upgrades on the Defensive line in this 2018 season… Go Bucs!
March 30th, 2018 at 7:38 am
We hear this every year about our FA signings…and so do 31 other teams….
March 30th, 2018 at 8:01 am
It will be interesting to see which one turns out the best….the trade for Bennett vs the acquisition of Curry.
We didn’t have to give up a draft pick for Curry.
I can just see the disclaimers Joe would add to Bennett……”anthem kneeling, cop bashing, paraplegic pushing”…….would be very funny….now, I think the Seahawks let him go”for no good reason”
March 30th, 2018 at 8:03 am
This Bucs fan was seeking Curry’s addition, and Sal Paolantonio on ESPN had some similar comments from team officials that they were indeed upset about seeing Curry leave the Eagles DLine, multiple reasons. Smart move by Licht, and good move for Buck.
Guess what Buc faithful….27 days and counting till the SA-QUON Sweepstakes!
Almost all draft capital for 2018-2020 still intact!
Go Bucs!
March 30th, 2018 at 8:13 am
Key words… barring injury. That’s the problem with this team no one discusses. Almost always in the top half of the league in games missed by starters.
March 30th, 2018 at 8:16 am
On the record? Not very often.
***However*** if a coach doesn’t like a guy who left, coach will either say nothing or a generic “hope he has success.” The coach won’t go into detail about him he helped his team win (a Super Bowl).
March 30th, 2018 at 8:24 am
I don’t believe that Licht and his staff are some brilliant defensive line talent evaluators. If they did, Calais Campbell would be a buc. The big killer is that Licht with his Arizona connections didn’t know what a stud he was/is. I like the Bucs filling out roster holes, but Licht/Koetter failed 2 years in a row to address positions that were down right awful. Last year, it was running back, the year prior it was receiver. It was shameful how poor the talent is there, especially considering how cheaply average, proven talent costs.
March 30th, 2018 at 8:36 am
Every year we supposedly got better……until we got worse.
March 30th, 2018 at 8:37 am
OK. Here’s the “State of Mind for most Buc Fans”
If there are so many “Debbie Downers” on here, it is because we have been psychologically trained to be so by the Bucs.
How many times will you put your hand in fire before it clicks….Fire Bad!
How many times have we seen FA’s come to the Bucs and they instantly forget how to tie their own shoes?
Whether it’s the coaching, scheme, losing culture, ownership, player getting a fat check – SOMETHING is happening with the Bucs in that almost all FA’s that have come here dissolve in spontaneous combustion.
The point is, UNTIL we see it ON THE FIELD, the attitude will be one of “We’ll See”.
How’d all that hype last year work out?
SHOW US THE WINS!
March 30th, 2018 at 8:41 am
Why didn’t they resign him then? Maybe he’s another Swaggy
March 30th, 2018 at 8:47 am
If we don’t get a lot of sack prod,they’ll be saying ya bc the secondary is so bad, QBs are getting the ball out quicker. Need a playmaker!
March 30th, 2018 at 8:56 am
Joe wrote why in the story.
March 30th, 2018 at 9:24 am
Question: What did the typical JoeBucsFan.commenter say when the Bucs won the NFC Championship?
Answer: The Bucs suck! A real team would win the Super Bowl! Fire everyone!
I understand being a little jaded, but dayum…
March 30th, 2018 at 9:34 am
Mr Berry some posters on here would complain about taxes if they hit the lottery. No one understands more then a long time Buc fan how much of a gut punch last year was but don’t see the point in complaining about every move the team makes. We know mistakes were made, pointing them out over and over seems pointless to me.
March 30th, 2018 at 9:39 am
Curry wil play hard for us. I just don’t want us to rest on our laurels and think we have this pass rush thing solved. You can never have enough pass rushers. Get another good one in the draft. Somehow for some reason, A great pass rush seems to make your Defensive secondary look better. I think the Bucs will do themselves better by continuing to harded them trenches and getting an RB. You can always pick up a safety and CB in the later rounds.
March 30th, 2018 at 9:44 am
Solid solid pick up
Good locker room guy. Has his head 100 % screwed on right and focused on ball
Our d line officially isn’t the worst anymore.
Sounds like jason is finally vetting players mental makeups now.
March 30th, 2018 at 9:47 am
Lol
That is True!!!!
Hahha
I will say it
Bye Loaf I mean Baker
March 30th, 2018 at 10:02 am
I like the upgrades so far this off season. I’m sure this team will be better than last years. My biggest worry is the Bucs are in a division where the other three teams made it to the playoffs last year. We have to at the very least go 4-4 in our division or we will be sitting out the playoffs again. I’m sure the Saints, Falcons, and Panthers are all improving. Just hoping we improved enough to keep up. I can’t wait for the Draft. Keeping the faith. Go Bucs!
March 30th, 2018 at 10:07 am
How many wins have the new transactions produced so far????
Until they earn it on the field these moves mean absolutely nothing and are almost as meaningless as cancer93 pro bowls.
March 30th, 2018 at 10:16 am
Damn do ppl even read the story before commetting?
March 30th, 2018 at 10:17 am
You do know we haven’t played and games yet TMax, don’t you? I mean do you actually watch the games? On this good Friday praying you get some love, and common sense, in your head.
March 30th, 2018 at 10:31 am
This is as predictable as a GM stating he got “just the guy we wanted” in the draft.
But as were looking at things in March, we appear to have gotten significantly better on dline.
Of course, it would be impossible to get worse unless they added more teams to the league.
March 30th, 2018 at 10:38 am
I just posted in an earlier article that I feel rotation is the most important thing for the Bucs d-line this year. Trading down for earlier picks and getting a DT and DE in rounds one through three. Possibly even one and two.
March 30th, 2018 at 10:38 am
Pessimists tend to look only at the big picture. They will tear apart any move by saying, “he will not win us the Super Bowl”. Look at the illogical hate for McCoy to confirm the pessimists will never be happy.
Optimists (and what I consider to be true fans) will look at each transaction separately. Does it make the team better? If the answer is incrementally, then it is a good move. No one move by itself will solve all problems, but a collection of good moves will make the team better overall. Progress is progress.
I have been a Bucs fan since day 1. I have lived through the horrible and rejoiced during the sparse good times. I think Licht and Koetter are doing good jobs. Not perfect, but more good than bad.
Go Bucs.
March 30th, 2018 at 10:40 am
Curry = a younger more productive bettter pass rushing healthier Ayers
Allen = a younger better attitude healthier Baker
Unrein = a younger, much bigger, more healthy NT than McDonald
We lose a little pass rush with McDonald; but in general I view these 3 as upgrades to individual roles vs additions.
JPP = the addition; and a huge one.
Spence = the hopeful addition via health this year.
I still want another DE & DT in the draft. But if we stay put at our pick I don’t see it happening unless Chubb falls. RB & LG & CB are more obvious holes at starting spots. DT/DE is moreso for depth/development but we NEED that too.
Trading down is the only way to hit on all these positions really; unless we nail some late round developmental dudes like this scenario:
1-Nelson OG
2-Michel/Juice/Ronald Jones II RB
4-Quenton Meeks CB
5-Nathan Shepard DT
6-Ade Aruda DE
But I doubt Shepard / Aruda are around by then. I’d love this draft tho.
March 30th, 2018 at 12:14 pm
Bucs fans need to realize that putting together a good defense is much more important than a running game early on in this draft and putting together a good team. DEFENSES WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. We lost a lot of close games last year to end up at 5-11 and it wasn’t because we didn’t have an amazing running game. It’s because we had the worst defense in the league. The only way I’m down for getting a RB in the second (only Michel or Guice) is if we trade down in the first and pick up an extra second round pick. People need to look in the mirror and see that we have a 36 year old, injury prone #1 CB in Grimes, #2 Ryan Smith that is soo not worthy of starting at #2, and VH3 who has shown us nothing since he was drafted. We need good healthy d-lineman to use for rotation and keep players fresh from this weather that gets hotter every year (look at the numbers if you don’t believe in global warming). And might I add that this draft is STACKED with good RBs. Defense is the first and most important thing that needs to be addressed in this draft.
March 30th, 2018 at 2:22 pm
SOE…Look at the back of Grimes baseball card and tell me why you call him injury prone please?
March 30th, 2018 at 2:55 pm
@ATrain
“Hey Joe I have a question
Has a Coach every said to you “I’m glad we got rid of that guy.”
Joe answers this question several times everytime he makes a trip to an event and gets outside opinion. His answer is always the same. No of course they’re not going to say that but they simply say nothing.
My mother used to say if you don’t have anything good to say about somebody then say nothing.
I think Joe sells himself a bit short though having done what he’s doing and asking those questions.
Joe has been around for a long time now…he’s seen and talked with all these people…I feel certain he can easily read between lines, body language, tone of voice. It’s actually one of the great things about JBF…I trust Joe’s editorial choices and if someone is just blowing smoke about a player I think Joe just leaves the comments out. If he doesn’t think they’re being honest he doesn’t have to use any comment.
March 30th, 2018 at 2:56 pm
I have an idea, since Curry will do absolutely nothing here, why don’t we see if the Eagles would like to trade get him back. A 3rd rounder would be perfect and then it would let them cut that piece of garbage Michael Bennett.
March 30th, 2018 at 3:27 pm
JimmyJack
You’re right JJ. He missed seven games last year but has had a healthy career. I guess I was trying to say is with age your body gets more fragile. That’s a fact. Even though it is amazing he’s lasted so long. But because he missed the seven games last year while also being 36, I just really disagreed with the one year/$7-$10 million deal. That average amount of money we could of got two younger “Glue Guy” CBs for depth, traded back in the first (what i want), and get a good CB in the earlier rounds of the draft (I’m down for Ward or Jackson in the first depending where we would land).
March 30th, 2018 at 5:55 pm
Lord Cornelius. Your mock matches Luke Easterling (top 3) lastest.
1. Nelson
2. Michel
4. Meeks
5. Senat (USF 1 Tect DT)
6. Martez Carter (Grambling quick RB)
6. Jeremy Reeves S. AL Saftey
7. Flowers QB USF
I want to get your (Luvmy & Pickgrin +) list of late round sleeper picks for SS,
CB, DE and RB before the draft. I’m almost finished with my list.
March 30th, 2018 at 7:41 pm
bucnuts nailed it square in the rock pile…………