Free Agency Open Thread, Day 2
March 15th, 2018
Yeah, Joe knows yesterday was a head-shaking day.
The activity/non-activity at certain positions had Joe letting out audible groans.
Not all is lost. There are still players available the Bucs could sorely use… if the Bucs are actually motivated to fill the craters on the roster.
Bang it here all day in this post if you can figure out the Bucs’ offseason strategy or share any rumors of player movement.
March 15th, 2018 at 7:02 am
Joe appreciate you cranking out the articles man, you must have more than 2 Joes now? Anyways keep up the diligent work and keep the info coming.
March 15th, 2018 at 7:03 am
I’m almost as concerned about the players we did get (and what we spent on them) as I am about who we didn’t get.
March 15th, 2018 at 7:05 am
Would like to see GB SS Morgan Burnett come in, a corner or two from among Gaines, Claiborne and Melvin, Okafor, another DT (McDonald, Poe, Bennie Logan), C Jensen and how about a guard from Pugh, Sitton and Mewhort.
At least create some depth and have a legit guy at each starting spot.
March 15th, 2018 at 7:09 am
Bucs’ offseason strategy: Sign a couple of cheap bench players in FA
Draft a few good players — they don’t cost much
SAVE MONEY FOR THE MOVE TO LONDON
March 15th, 2018 at 7:11 am
Another good one Joe!!! She is another good looking Free Agent!!! Hope we can sign that one to!
March 15th, 2018 at 7:11 am
yesterday was 3-14, which is pretty close to what the bucs record is going to be after this showing by the licht brigade
March 15th, 2018 at 7:15 am
Another day of going lichts out !!!
March 15th, 2018 at 7:21 am
okafor and Mathieu , better than nothing.
March 15th, 2018 at 7:22 am
Jensen would be a solid pickup. That would be a great start to Day 2. C’mon make it happen Licht.
March 15th, 2018 at 7:22 am
Bucs aren’t going to London, the Glazers are hated there too for how they have run ManU. The Jags owner however is well liked in London.
March 15th, 2018 at 7:25 am
I am relieved we didn’t get caught up in some of the deals that are out there, hoping we sign a few guys today, and really hoping we have a solid plan for the draft.
Jensen, Sitton, Mathieu, Suh, Reid, Lynch, Gaines would all be guys I would be interested in.
March 15th, 2018 at 7:34 am
Rumor is Jensen is going to sign this morning.
March 15th, 2018 at 7:37 am
The real question is: Are the players we are picking up better than the ones we released……and the same going forward.
So far, we will be replacing Hawley, Baker, Martin….and I don’t believe those players have been brought in yet.
We are fortunate to have a few groups that are secure: QB, WR, TE, P, LB
And three more that one player could secure: Oline, S & RB.
We need 3 starters in FA and 3 in the draft.
March 15th, 2018 at 7:38 am
Easy, is that rumor from Incarcerated Bob? ha
March 15th, 2018 at 7:41 am
Teams are throwing out stupid money this year
Nate soldier the highest paid left tackle.
Trumaine johsnon and butler the highest paid dbs
3rd tier running backs making 5-7. The receivers who are average at best getting over 10 mil per.
I get that licht doesn’t want to overpay. However, that’s what this year is all about and bucs have to many holes to fill. They can’t fill these holes in one draft. Koetter and licht have to know that there may not be a next year. I can’t seem to believe they really think that they were close last year to being a good team. Like if a few snaps went their way, they would have winning record?
Make some dang moves. Jensen/Gaines /okafor / Matthieu are my favs left
(Sitton will be a dolphin…Pugh coming from back injury so they have already been thru that )
March 15th, 2018 at 7:42 am
Day 2 – has got to be better than the noname signings yesterday.
March 15th, 2018 at 7:44 am
Joe, what’s up with Ryan Jensen Bucs gonna sign him or let him leave Tampa without a deal?
March 15th, 2018 at 7:45 am
Easy –
Where did you see Jensen to bucs. I have been on every site -and don’t see that confirmation ?
March 15th, 2018 at 7:46 am
I think everyone needs to chill out. I thought they would go bonkers with free agency trying to win NOW and save Licht and Koetter’s jobs, but they are being very smart and looking long term, which I think needs to happen. To hell with quick fixes, they need a long term solution to build a dynasty…
March 15th, 2018 at 7:47 am
@tamapbaybucfan
Our QB position is not secure. If he doesn’t perform well this season you may hear talks of not picking up the option. Especially if the glazers clean house. A new coach may want to pick his own QB
March 15th, 2018 at 7:48 am
Sign Jensen. Build from the inside out.
March 15th, 2018 at 7:50 am
My hopes for day 2: trade gmc, lvd & aires for picks. don’t bring anyone older than 25 in FA.
March 15th, 2018 at 7:50 am
Okafor 1st stop is bucs and if we threw 4 mil a year , the saints couldn’t match with their cap issues. He made 2 per last year
His favorite coach is here now. They said his Achilles will be good to go by season start. Fast healer like beckwith ?
It’s risky but what other options do we have.
March 15th, 2018 at 7:51 am
As much as I would love Mathieu in Tampa he said “i’ll take winning culture over money”. Folks, we do not have a winning culture here in Tampa.
March 15th, 2018 at 8:00 am
Parnell McPhee anybody? Worth a look IMO.
March 15th, 2018 at 8:08 am
Sign Jensen!
Sign pass rushers!
Get it done, Licht! This defense is abysmal.
March 15th, 2018 at 8:26 am
I will say this. Licht must have amazing confidence in his draft strategy..
March 15th, 2018 at 8:27 am
@GoBucs
Bingo
March 15th, 2018 at 8:38 am
If we sign Jensen, I’m good with that. I’d lime to have Mathieu, another decent vet CB (Claiborne, Gaines, rogers-cromartie), Okafor for the right money. No idea what folks are thinking about. This is a very weak FA class for most of the things we need DEs, CBs, OL. RBs we can find in the draft (Penney, etc) 3rd round or beyond. Chubb will not be there, neither will Nelson. Vita Vea will be though. I say our moves are structured towards 3-4 base. So EDGE OLBs are little easier to find in the draft we get one of those in RND2, and maybe a later gem ( I Like Joel Ostman, he’s going to go late). We are ok folks. Big FA splashes haven’t helped us in the past.
March 15th, 2018 at 8:43 am
I’m so tired of hearing about a 3-4 defense as if switching to that will solve all the problems. It’s not happening anyway so get over it
March 15th, 2018 at 8:44 am
If Bucs sign Jensen & Claiborne that would help in the draft. Still would like to see them sign a DE like Ealy & get McDonald re-signed.
Looks like we may draft 2 RB’s. (Guice, Penny, Walton) which is wiser than overspending on the free-agents available.
I don’t think we’ll be able to trade down so take best player (Chubb, Nelson, Minkah, Derwin) then be sure we get a G, DT, DE, Secondary
If we are somehow able to get both DE Arden Key & DT Tim Settle, I would look forward to possible playoff run because honestly the only way we’re getting there is if Jameis takes us there this year!
March 15th, 2018 at 8:52 am
Counting on draft picks to get to next level on a team void of leadership and captained by the selfish me first POS career loser cancer93 is not a winning formula
March 15th, 2018 at 8:54 am
? Is it better to get several good players of just one great one?
March 15th, 2018 at 9:07 am
If Nelson is available grab him .Draft a running back in the second round.Then look for an edge rushers and hope Spence comes back healthy.h
March 15th, 2018 at 9:10 am
There’s nothing worse than the NFL Network telling marquise free agent players where they should sign. For example Nate Burleson’s tells Tyrann Mathieu
“Consider a place where you have the best chance for a ring and not just for the money”
How does a team like the Buc’s compete with that?
March 15th, 2018 at 9:11 am
Someone said this in another thread, I think it was adam in ny, that perhaps the Bucs know how the Jameis Winston investigation is going to turn out and it isn’t good. That’s not a bad theory. We’ll know for sure if that’s the case based in how they draft because right now this is not a team that can win the division.
March 15th, 2018 at 9:13 am
Jensen left Tampa without a contract heading to Indy who has the most cap money left, surprisingly they haven’t signed anyone, DE Okafor visiting this morning
March 15th, 2018 at 9:31 am
Tmax out of curiosity why do you feel the need to constantly repeat yourself?
March 15th, 2018 at 9:54 am
Release
• Robert Ayers | Saved: $6,000,000
Contract Notes: 2018 Roster Bonus: $1M (3/18/2018)
Restructured
• William Gholston | Cap $ Saved: $4,282,500
Trade
• Gerald McCoy | Cap $ Saved: $12,250,000
Contract Notes: Dead $ Incurred: $500,000
Total Cap Saved: $22,532,500
March 15th, 2018 at 10:24 am
That’s a rather puzzling post coming from you LUV.
Restructure Gholston – sure.
But why would we release Ayers when we are desperate for DE help and Ayers is the best we’ve got currently?? He may be getting old and is somewhat injury prone as well – but he’s better than any player I see available in FA at DE. If Ayers was not under contract – I have a feeling he’d be getting more than $6M offered in FA this year so its not like his salary is out of line. Makes no sense to release him without a better replacement.
And what exactly do you think we’d get in trade for McCoy? A 4th rd pick? 3rd maybe? A lot less than what his play is worth to us that’s for sure. You just looking to dump his $12M salary or what? If so – why?? – to have more to spend in a crappy FA field??
Makes no sense LUV. Choo got some ‘splaining to do with that one…
March 15th, 2018 at 10:38 am
LOL if the Honey Badger stands by this there is NO WAY he’s coming here.
“It’s not all about money for me,” said Mathieu, ranked No. 5 in NFL.com’s Top 101 Free Agents of 2018. “I want to go somewhere where I can be completely immersed in football, and it’s not too much about anything but winning. I want to be a part of winning culture, where you feel that all the time. That’s all I want.”
March 15th, 2018 at 10:55 am
SCBucsFan Says:
March 15th, 2018 at 9:31 am
Tmax out of curiosity why do you feel the need to constantly repeat yourself?
cancer93 is the main problem the bucs have not a single move they make will turn out until the locker room cancer with a smile is gone. you may think I am over the top but the results prove I am right. Too many times we have learned how selfish that POS is… refusing to play DE, selfish statements when some suggested bucs draft aarron donald who is ten times the man that punk 93 is… pouting like a beotch when winston pumped up team, celebrating loses (well before baker)… the losing culture is real and it’s led by cancer93… this team stands no chance until they have a defensive captain with heart and a drive to be great…
March 15th, 2018 at 10:59 am
Lookout Fellow Buc fans for the amazing..exciting upsoming season of the..SOB’S (Same Ole Bucs!) The ship will sail..Injuries, excuses, poor coaching…and all. ALL ABOARD!!
March 15th, 2018 at 11:25 am
@luv
Don’t need more cap space when we got plenty now and the cap keeps rising(also don’t need to create a MASSIVE hole at DT with GMac93 gone).. It’s a crazy market now and am glad we aren’t signing overpriced castaways from other teams (Jet McKinnon, Watkins, Hyde for example).. We need to continue to build through the draft and get good deals in FA to patch the holes.
When the Bucs actually become GOOD then we can get the better FA’s chasing a championship late in their careers
Completely off topic.. But I am so glad that the Glazers main priority went crashing out of the biggest competition of the year across the pond. Terrible owners
March 15th, 2018 at 11:45 am
Yes keep signing linemen. I saw Jensen is on to Indy without a deal here. Cmon Licht. Need a true good center to get marpet back to mauling and to run the dang ball more. Get mewhort or sitton. Couple DEs who have shown they can get to the qb. Cant believe licht didnt get one of the RBs. Now he will probably trade up for one he just cant live without.
March 15th, 2018 at 12:14 pm
Lol nothing’s gonna happen that’s worth a damn, this thread is pointless. Might as well put up a “Gone Fishing” sign until the draft lol
March 15th, 2018 at 12:27 pm
Mike Pouncey just got released by the Dolphins … if we don’t get Jensen, he could work …
March 15th, 2018 at 2:17 pm
The Glaziers are hated in Tampa too so what is your point
Buccaneers become
LONDON BUCAROOS
March 15th, 2018 at 3:05 pm
This is like an NBA off-season, middle tier players getting top dollar.
Thank you for not being involved in this insanity. Don’t listen to the herd of whining sheeple. If we signed lets say Matheiu to a 11M/year I bet people still are gonna be here crying we spent too much and it don’t matter because our QB sucks, or we have the ice cream man so we can’t possibly win with him.
Pansy arse fans wanting to buy instant success. Well that’s not life and its never been the NFL.
And here’s Joe with his lantern leading the herd to the Skyway.
March 15th, 2018 at 3:15 pm
Poe to Panthers 3yr/$27M
March 15th, 2018 at 4:13 pm
Across the internet I keep seeing bucs fans so pissed off we’ve missed out on big signings. We’ve spent the better part of a decade making huge splash signings that don’t work out. I for one am excited we are focusing on lower level guys who are trending upwards. Keep doing what you’re doing Tampa and don’t fall into the Suh trap and let’s see what a new mentality can do for us moving forward. It’s time things change.
March 15th, 2018 at 5:43 pm
I just viewed the video of Beau Allen making his One Buc Place debut. Hysterical. He takes the podium as if he is a first round draft pick or the greatest FA signing in the history of the NFL. This organization is the biggest joke of all time. Wow!
March 15th, 2018 at 10:29 pm
We dont need no stinking big name free agents…..didnt we almost win those close games last year….32nd ranked d line is just the way its looked at…yall looking at it all wrong…We got A1 numero uno GMC, so what you talking bout? Man please!!!
We got this!!!
/sarcasm off
We’ll be ranked 33rd in D this season at the rate we’re going….why do i even try to care anymore….what a joke!