The Cornerback Dilemma
February 15th, 2018
Critical piece of offseason puzzle.
In a perfect world, the Bucs would not be in a holding pattern thanks to stud corner Brent Grimes.
Look, this is not a knock on Grimes, who clearly is at the top of his game at 34. Joe wants Grimes back for 2018. And the Bucs need him terribly.
Grimes is still one of the best corners in the NFL.
And that is the pickle the Bucs are in. No team should be this dependent on a 34-year old corner who was unclear about his future plans when the 2017 season ended. Most teams have backup plans when or if a thirty-something player js considering walking away.
The fact Grimes toyed with retirement last offseason has Joe nervous.
This isn’t the way Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht had it planned. He drafted Vernon Hargreaves in the first round just weeks after he signed Grimes. Hargreaves was to have established himself by now as a solid NFL corner, and if Grimes left the loss wouldn’t be severe.
However, last year, Hargreaves totally fell off the map. It was a disturbing turn of events to see a rookie corner who handled himself well then plummet so rapidly and so dramatically in his second season. Joe talked to a former NFL cornerback about this and let’s just say the commentary was disturbing.
So when Gary Davenport of Bleacher Report suggested the Bucs need to get younger in the secondary, Joe doesn’t disagree in theory. But Joe has to ask, again, what evidence is there that Bucs coaches can develop young corners? Joe can’t find any. So drafting a corner in April on the first or second day of the draft is akin to throwing away a valuable pick.
No, it shouldn’t be this way. And yes, Davenport is right. In theory.
Unfortunately, Joe lives in the real world. Until or unless this defensive staff can prove it can develop a young corner, this team must acquire or keep veteran corners no matter if they are 28-, 30- or 34-years old.
Brent, please come back.
February 15th, 2018 at 1:04 pm
The loyalty these former falcons have for one another…. dont wait on this guy… letd get the ball rolling here in the next couple weeks… aquib talib? Vonte davis? Shoot maybe find a way to get sherman… but i see it now grimes retires after the draft and free agency and were stuck with garbage pickings
February 15th, 2018 at 1:05 pm
Excuse me aqib
February 15th, 2018 at 1:15 pm
All this FA talk what waste of your time Joe. They won’t do anything in FA, nothing huge. Maybe a few stop gaps here and there. Glazers have shut the money vault after the debacle Licht created.
February 15th, 2018 at 1:18 pm
One solution:
Change the f*cking coaches. ARGH! We have the horses on defense to pass rush (Spence, David, Kwon) yet we continue to run a 4-3 despite not having the best personnel (read: pass-rushing DEs) for it! Use the players you have instead of trying to shoehorn the players into your system!
FUUUUUU….. why can we as fans see this disaster and the coaches not?
February 15th, 2018 at 1:20 pm
Easy solution, offer Grimes an extension that expires the day that free agency starts. If he signs great if not look for a replacement. There are other CB’s available in free agency. The preference would be to keep Grimes but if that’s not possible move on.
February 15th, 2018 at 1:29 pm
They have already fired the Dline coach and if they can’t develope corner the whole defensive staff needs to hit the road.
The solution of avoiding one in the draft because our coaches are awful is just running away from the problem.
Why in the world should we build our team in an assbackwards way to appease horrible coaches that can’t do their jobs? It seems absolutely senseless.
It’s just mind boggling to me to call it a wasted draft pick. To me that’s a basic endictment on our entire front office to keep awful coaches around that can’t do their jobs and because of it handicap themselves in both free agency and draft. I get it’s your opinion Joe……but if it’s true maybe you should consider the ripple effect.
February 15th, 2018 at 1:29 pm
Waterboy
Sounds like a solid strategy to me.
Again show him..or actually Miko some R E S P E C T.
Immediately start courting him and Miko and offer them a “market valued” contract. And guarantee at least next year. Don’t try last year’s trick of giving him an un-guaranteed contract. That is still sticking in Miko’s crawl from last year and I was surprised when I heard about it. I get not guaranteeing beyond next year.
February 15th, 2018 at 1:31 pm
let him walk….sign ej gaines…Malcolm butler….play man press….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!…GO BUCS!!!
February 15th, 2018 at 1:31 pm
Gotta sign him. 8-10 seems high but what other options without trading draft picks /quality players for another corner. Talib will be traded for picks. Sure guys can be had in draft but it’s rare that a 1st year corner plays at high level.
He is a bridge gap. 1 year until we get some depth. He is looking for 1 year too.
And I don’t think he is looking for ring and will sell out and take less for that ring. Miko wants the cash.
February 15th, 2018 at 1:39 pm
Grimes shouldn’t be retained as option 1. We need that stud corner
February 15th, 2018 at 1:42 pm
I played D2 baseball at Shepherd University. I used to work the down marker for the school’s football games.
I was able to see both Brent Grimes and John Kuhn play for Shippensburg. They were and are complete studs.
I was also fortunate enough to see Jahri Evans play for Bloomsburg U, and it was like watching an all you can eat pancake dinner go down.
I think we pass on Grimes and lock up a stud, younger, corner.
With that said, I am still offering Grimes 8-9million + incentives bc the guy is a rare breed of athlete. I am so thankful to be blessed to see such stud amateurs play at the D2 level.
February 15th, 2018 at 1:49 pm
Bringing Grimes back should be the #1 priority in FA. He is the only CB to have success in this system.
Letting him walk just to “get younger” is a gamble. And this franchise is not in a position to make gambles.
February 15th, 2018 at 2:02 pm
Somehow I think we’ll find a way to blame GMC for Hargreaves total meltdown too!
FINGER-WAG!
February 15th, 2018 at 2:15 pm
Actual Vernon Hargreaves had an averaged grade at PFF in 2017. Jason Evans had the below-average grade. And I agree with the PFF grades. With that said, here’s my options for the Bucs at CB.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/vernon-hargreaves/10645
Draft Minkah Fitzpatrick or Denzel Ward
Sign Bashaud Breeland in free agency
February 15th, 2018 at 2:16 pm
***Justin Evans***
February 15th, 2018 at 2:29 pm
So I’m actually doing this community board mock draft right now with a bunch of fans from other teams where we can trade picks / players / etc.
The first 6 picks were QBs and Chubb (#3) and Barkley (#6). Arizona traded up to 6 to get Josh Allen as the only trade at that point.
So I took our boy Quinton Nelson OG at 7 as I had no trade down offers.
What’s exciting me most in this fantasy world – is that I made a trade with the Rams fan/owner; to send our 3rd round pick & 7th round compensatory pick; for Robert Quinn DE and his 4th round pick.
Essentially moved a 3rd to a 4th and gave up the last pick of the draft pretty much to get a 27 year old DE coming off a 15 game 8.5 sack season. Dude had 10.5/19/10.5 sacks from 2012-2014 before injuries held him back in 15′ and 16′.
That’s a move we should try to make in real world land
February 15th, 2018 at 2:30 pm
correction Barkley went #4 i meant
February 15th, 2018 at 2:35 pm
There are TONS of solid to good CBs in free agency and the draft this year … we should get at least 3 of them
February 15th, 2018 at 2:54 pm
Agree with your pick Lord Corn.
If faced with a similar scenario, take the trench warriorover the CB.
February 15th, 2018 at 3:03 pm
Bucsfanman
Damn dude time for surgery to remove 93 nuts that are stuck. Hope it’s throat and not brain. Brain durgery can be a mutha fer. Get well sir. Team is better off without the smiling me first cancer. The selfishness outweighs his great first step to nowhere
February 15th, 2018 at 3:13 pm
What was said about VH3 by a former corner? Was it just about his play or stuff off the field? I hadn’t heard of any off the field issues with VH3 before, so I hope that’s not the case.
February 15th, 2018 at 3:15 pm
Vh3 is a bust. Bucs waste wasy to much hoping on wasted picks. Next
February 15th, 2018 at 3:26 pm
LC 4 GM!!!!!!!!!
nelson and Robert Quinn…..and we still have our 2nd round pick to get a RB or dline….
you got my vote….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….GO BUCS!!!
February 15th, 2018 at 3:29 pm
Those PFF grades are all over the place…
They say Kwon is a below average player (he made the pro-bowl), that Beckwith is a poor player and that OJ is a poor player.
Meanwhile they said David is the #2 LB in football (something I’d agree with), Dotson is the #7 tackle, Evans is the #14 WR… BUT D-Jax is #17…
Also they say Chris Conte is an AVERAGE starter. LOL!
They are all over the place in terms of grades. There’s a few I agree with, but they seem nearly completely random and reward players with bigger names. I don’t think D-Jax had the poor season many talked about, but #17th best WR grade? That’s laughable.
Anywho one thing everyone can agree from, from PFF to more respectable scouts, is that Ryan Smith is a terrible terrible player. They have him listed as the #105th corner, so I assume that means they only rated 105 corners.
February 15th, 2018 at 3:35 pm
@813
Tampa should just have a community counsel of JBF posters as the major decision makers for the team lol. I honestly feel like we’d do a pretty good job
February 15th, 2018 at 3:37 pm
Lord Cornelius – I think that’s some fantasy stuff, I don’t see the Rams letting Quinn go that cheaply, but if that was even a remote possibility I’d take it. A trade for him was discussed before here and I think the offer being discussed was Brate plus a 2nd rounder, which is probably more along the lines of what it would take. Would hate to lose Brate, but he’s going to want probably $7m in 2 years and we already got OJ who looks like a star, so I’d put him in a deal if need be, but I’d also try to work that 2nd down to a 3rd. But DE’s are nearly impossible to find and you’re not getting one for nothing and I doubt the Rams would give up Quinn unless they got a good return. He’ll be 28 years old when the season starts, which means he should have another 4 solid years of production, so I’d make the trade happen, even with the 2nd rounder. HOWEVER, I’d probably try to trade down the 2nd rounder before sending it to the Rams – so maybe you jump down to the middle of the 2nd round and pick up an extra 4th before you make the deal – I think the Rams still take the offer even if it’s 10 picks or so further down in that round.
February 15th, 2018 at 3:37 pm
@Rod Munch
PFF grades might as well be randomized numbers. I can’t trust any of that.
They graded OJ worse than guys like John Ross who didn’t do sh1t last year. Said his blocking was basically terrible and I have no idea how they came to that conclusion. I saw plenty of solid blocking by OJ last year; and saw plenty of other TEs in the league playing who couldn’t block worth a sh1t.
February 15th, 2018 at 3:38 pm
Do not draft a corner sign / trade for one and sign two. Pick your guy negotiate a sign and trade ,sign another first day and another two weeks later , really good free agent corner clas shaping up. Take advantage of it and sign three !!!
Really 6 or seventh round pick to get the best f agent corners , this is a no brainer but you have to have the mind set of we are going to solve this corner situation once and for all , right f’ ing now while we have the opportunity.
There is nothing and I mean nothing other than Light himself keeping this team from having the one of the top 5 , 3 deep corner rotations on Sept first. Not cap, not roster talent, not resigning young players ,not avail talent , I’m mean nothing other than Light thinking he is some sort of roster magician. Which it appears very clearly his coaching staff is the opposite , so all the more reason to solve this problem NOW and have a clear path in the draft.
February 15th, 2018 at 3:38 pm
So Hargreaves has a sophomore slump, injures his hamstring in game 10 and is ultimately put on IR, He is a bust? or should we give him his 3rd year to recover and regain the form that prompted us to pick him in the first round to begin with? I never hear this scenario only he is a bust and should be cast on the rock pile of DB’s that Buc coaches can’t coach. Which came first, Bad Buc DB coaches or production drop-off and injury on the part of VH3. If Vernon rebounds and produces in 2018, does that mean the Buc’s DB coaches are off the hook and we now have a green light to draft first round safety’s?
February 15th, 2018 at 3:44 pm
Rod Munch
I believe in PFF grading system
February 15th, 2018 at 3:45 pm
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February 15th, 2018 at 3:50 pm
@Rod
They’re literally talking about having to cut Quinn in an article I just read. They can’t afford him and if he doesn’t take a pay cut then they have to either find a trade partner or let him go.
The Rams fan/fantasy owner was actively shopping him to me for this reason.
The Pats gave up Chandler Jones for a 2nd rounder; and that was their best DE coming off a 12.5 sack season at only 25 years old with less injury history and less wear n tear in general.
We’d maybe have to straight up just give a 3rd but it all would depend on how many others are bidding. WOuld have been nice to make that trade for Jones and his 18 sacks in retrospect using the f*cking Aguayo pick lol
February 15th, 2018 at 4:02 pm
Lord Cornelius – I had not heard of any talk of cutting Quinn, if that’s the case then yes, the Bucs should be full in on trying to give up something to avoid him hitting the market where he’ll probably go somewhere else. He’s making $12m, which is probably a bit below market value so I can’t see why he’d restructure and take less money to stay there. Not sure I buy he’d be a salary cap cut since at worst he has trade value I’d think and the DE market is so incredibly weak this offseason I the Rams would easily move him for something of value.
February 15th, 2018 at 4:07 pm
PFF doesn’t know the play calls on any given play. They don’t know the coverage assignments. They don’t know what the call requires of the lineman.
Ex – maybe someone looks beat in coverage but it’s because a different player wasn’t in his correct zone. So the player who played the play correctly is penalized for no reason.
Or maybe an offensive lineman is supposed to swing on a run play but doesn’t; and it f*cks up other lineman on the play even though he takes a guy out on a running play. He looks good to PFF while others look bad.
Even the pressure stats used do not take into account time from snap to pressure. If the QB has 5-7 seconds to throw then I wouldn’t count any created pressure at that point as the D-line doing a good job or O-line doing a bad job.
I mean in general they should be able to make assumptions about a lot of this that kind of helps the accuracy but it’s a ton of assumptions to make every play
February 15th, 2018 at 4:07 pm
Lord Cornelius – Also on that Chandler Jones trade the Cards gave up Jonathan Cooper, the #7 pick in the 2013 draft, he was not yet seen as bust as he had been injury plagued – I don’t think the Pats thought he was just a throw in. I also remember at the time Bucs fans saying what the fudge, why weren’t the Bucs in on bidding for Jones, I think the response around most of the league was why was he traded for so little.
But hey if the Bucs can get Quinn for a 3rd, then they should do it right this very second – I think it would require more than that, but would be more than happy to be wrong. He is still in his prime, isn’t overpaid and has a couple of years on his contract still, it seems like a good type of player to grab.
February 15th, 2018 at 5:18 pm
check out the 2019 Bucs pick
http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2019_1.php
February 15th, 2018 at 5:26 pm
All I know is they better pay the man. Although I have zero confidence in Mike Smith, maybe they find another corner to play across from him.
I don’t think Grimes will come back though, it seems Jay Hayes was pretty eager to get out of this crap coached defense, does anyone really believe Grimes feels any different. IN FACT, I am willing to bet 100 bucks that Grimes signs elsewhere for LESS than what the Bucs offer him. BET!!!!!
Entire new coaching staff for this CRAP show of an organization AGAIN next season caused by Koetters inability to recognize that his best bud is the biggest problem with the entire team.
FIRE MIKE SMITH!!!!!
February 15th, 2018 at 5:30 pm
813bucboi….hate to bust your hope bubble but they will never press….EVER!!!!!
Every….single…..year its the same crap. 2018 won’t be any different. Corners 12 yards back slant passes wide open receivers and watching Jameis struggle to carry an entire team on his shoulders being hung out to dry every single week.
This team needs new owners because the biggest problem on the team is going nowhere
February 15th, 2018 at 5:51 pm
Bucemup
Agree
Big issue having such a young qb carry ur sorry team. For 3 straight years. Koetter was trying not to have him do that because ” we have a good defense now” remark. That went crashing like week 2. Then Yes JW once again carry them into the the playoffs and Koetter blames him
February 15th, 2018 at 5:59 pm
AlteredEgo
WalterFootball mock draft is similar to my mock.
February 15th, 2018 at 6:04 pm
Well they 2018 mock draft look similar to my mock. Their 2019 mock don’t make sense. Unless the Bucs trade down with the Super Bowl champs. Or they deal a player to the Super Bowl champ.
February 15th, 2018 at 6:22 pm
It all comes down to coaching. Need a coach who can inspire players to perform. A good coach would win those close games and even games no one would expect a team to win. Even with players who may not be great, there were several games this team should have overcome and won. It starts with the head coach. It is ultimately his responsibility to overcome problems and find ways to win, even with team members injuries.
Hey, would Monte come back?
February 15th, 2018 at 6:25 pm
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AJ McCarron won his grievance and will now be an UNRESTRICTED free agent! This could actually impact the Bucs big-time as the Broncos are expected to sign Cousins and the Browns are now expected to sign McCarron, meaning both teams will likely pass on drafting QBs in the top 6 picks.
Browns: Saquon Barkley
Giants: Josh Rosen
Colts: Bradley Chubb
Browns: Minkah Fitzpatrick
Broncos: Quenton Nelson
Jets: Sam Darnold
Bucs: TRADE DOWN as Saquon, Chubb, Quenton AND Minkah are all gone …
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February 15th, 2018 at 6:38 pm
NFLNut
I have always said the Browns wouldn’t draft a QB with one of their 1st round picks. I don’t think John Dorsey will reach for QB. Especially one with not much more upside than DeShone Kizer.
February 15th, 2018 at 6:41 pm
I still think there’s a good chance the Browns draft Bradley Chubb first overall. If he the top prospect after the combine.
February 15th, 2018 at 8:01 pm
Hhhmmm???
February 15th, 2018 at 8:29 pm
@Joe … “let’s just say the commentary was disturbing.” Please don’t play ‘I’ve got a secret with us. Could you maybe unpack that a bit Joe? What part was disturbing, that VHIII doesn’t have the talent & skills to be an outside corner or that he has the talent but that Bucs coaches screwed him up?
Lots of JBFers are down on the defensive coaching staff after 2017, but many of those same folks were begging Mike Smith to stay after what he & the defensive coaching staff did in 2016. I’m reading & hearing lots of guesses (speculation?) about what changed, but there’s seemingly little evidence to back up any of the speculation. I’m now convinced that something ‘disturbing’ went on Joe, and in many more places than just the secondary. So come on, share if you’re in the know.
February 15th, 2018 at 8:40 pm
Nfl Nut
The bears signed mike glennon last year for 18 mil a year and still gave up draft picks to move up and draft a QB if the don’t believe in Kizer that I don’t think they do they will draft a QB with the first overall pick it’s a QB league I could see 5 qbs go in the first round this year.
February 15th, 2018 at 8:44 pm
‘Baz Says:
February 15th, 2018 at 1:18 pm
One solution:
Change the f*cking coaches. ARGH! We have the horses on defense to pass rush (Spence, David, Kwon) yet we continue to run a 4-3 despite not having the best personnel (read: pass-rushing DEs) for it! Use the players you have instead of trying to shoehorn the players into your system!’
You’d think they might’ve learned from the Lovie debacle.
February 15th, 2018 at 9:37 pm
@Lord Cornelius……. I agree 100 % with you about draft and actually though about Quinn also. If it does play out like that we would all be feeling good.
February 15th, 2018 at 10:10 pm
If I’m John Dorsey I’m placing Bradley Chubb on the right side off the edge. We’re talking the best bookends for years. Carl Nassib, Nate Orchard, Emmanuel Ogbah for depth. Caleb Brantley, Trevon Coley, Danny Shelton, Larry Ogunjobi the DTs. This just seems too obvious for Cleveland to pass up, especially if Chubb blow up the combine. They can get a QB with the 4th pick or free agency. But Hue Jackson and John Dorsey need to win now. And with Todd Haley as the OC, the need a veteran QB. They can continue to groom DeShone Kizer, he’s only 22.
February 15th, 2018 at 10:16 pm
RDE Bradley Chubb
NT Danny Shelton
DT Caleb Brantley
LDE Myles Garrett
Backups
DE Emmanuel Ogbah
DE Carl Nassib
DE Nate Orchard
DT Trevon Coley
DT Larry Ogunjobi
They all are 25 and under
February 15th, 2018 at 10:26 pm
Sorry Joe a Grimes is definitely not one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL. He’s about upper mid-tier. Let’s be honest
February 15th, 2018 at 10:32 pm
lol Maze, I was thinking the same thing
February 15th, 2018 at 10:40 pm
Browns already have two really good defensive ends. Zero chance they take Bradley Chubb
February 15th, 2018 at 10:49 pm
The Browns got 7 sacks from Myles Garrett in 11 games. They only got 4 from Ogbah in 10 games. They got 3 sacks from Nassib in 16 games, and they got 2 sacks from Orchard in 16 games. They need to get Myles Garrett some help, I believe they will.
February 15th, 2018 at 10:51 pm
You need at least 3 good pass rushers…I don’t see 3 good ones on the Browns roster.
February 15th, 2018 at 11:11 pm
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BUCS55 … I don’t think the Browns will sign McCarron at all unless they believe he’s their long-term starter, which means they’d give him a long-term deal and therefore NOT draft a QB at all. I’m not saying that’s what they should do, but it’s what they might do … as for me, I think AJ is a joke QB …
LakeLand … I think Sam Darnold has ELITE talent and could be a superstar on the right team … but I understand your point of view on Chubb, I just don’t think the Browns draft him … I think he goes #3 to the Colts and I think Saquon goes #1 to the Browns.
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February 15th, 2018 at 11:15 pm
Sure but I find it very hard to believe they draft the same position first overall in back-to-back seasons. They desperately need a franchise quarterback at one. Most important position in professional sports, then hopefully they take Fitzpatrick at 4.
February 16th, 2018 at 12:21 am
Maze – At first I’d agree with you on your thoughts about Grimes not being one of the top guys anymore, however seeing how far off a cliff everyone else on the club is, perhaps he is that good to only look like an upper mid-level guy in this scheme on this defense. When you think about the season it’s not like anyone ever picked on him, they just mostly threw to everywhere he was not at. He did get burned a couple of times, but overall he performed well. To go back to the PFF grades one thing I assume they can do right is math and their QB rating against him I believe was like 72 – that’s quite good for 2017. I do know the Bucs badly need to resign him if he’s not retiring, then after he resigns they need to trade for Talib, then draft a guy or two AND hope VH3 bounces back. Then get that deal done for Quinn if he’s available. Oh and for the love of all get someone to replace Chris Conte. Do all those things and the Bucs suddenly look OK on defense – and they have the salary cap room to handle all of that without much difficulty.
February 16th, 2018 at 1:34 am
I like your thought process Rod and well thought-out, yes lots of holes to fill but I feel we can sign two corners in free agency that would be an upgrade from Grimes and not have to trade those vaulable and needed picks for Talib. Quinn would be a fantastic addition to the team and maybe not even have to trade for him but would do so if needed. Lots of talent in free agency and even the draft this year for cornerback. Grimes can’t press and is not much of a tackler either. Old age is bound to catch up with him any day now.
February 16th, 2018 at 3:22 am
Lord Cornelius Says: “PFF doesn’t know the play calls on any given play. They don’t know the coverage assignments. They don’t know what the call requires of the lineman”. Yes and no, true but.. Regardless of not knowing coverage assignments and lineman calls, every player is graded the same. Most players who are covering a receiver are the ones responsible to cover the receiver. On the QB pressures, the sacks and hits are quantifiable and when the QB has 5-7 seconds to throw, I doubt PFF records it as a pressure. PFF has three separate people grade each player from each play and when they can not all three agree on the play grade, they simply do not grade the play.
The problem with the defense was not only the lack of pressure but the failed coverage. The Bucs allowed 260.6 passing yards per game. No team in the NFL allowed more. The secondary needs to re-sign Brent Grimes and if they can not, they will need to obtain not just one, but two solid CB’s. Probably one in FA’s and one in the draft. Ohio State’s Denzel Ward (the top cornerback in 2018, according to most draftniks) will be there at No. 7. If Chubb is there at 7 then CB Jared Alexander (5-11 190) may be there in the second round. He is known as one of the best cover cornerbacks in the nation. He is a ball hawk who uses his instincts and quickness, that allows him to generate turnovers. He ended last season with a (PFF) overall grade of 87.4, ranking No. 5 of 269 qualifying cornerbacks. He also ended the season with 5 interceptions with 9 pass deflections on 60 targets. He made more plays on the ball than he allowed passes to be caught, allowing just five receptions while intercepting a pass and recording five pass breakups. Alexander’s 17.7 passer rating when targeted was nearly 10.0 points clear of No. 2 among draft-eligible cornerbacks. In FA there are several options, including Travis Carrie, Rashaan Melvin, Malcolm Butler, Morris Claiborne and Johnathan Joseph. I would prefer Grimes, Claiborne and Hargreaves. The bottom line is that the CB position group must be addressed. Think if we sign Claiborne and draft Chubb, then are able to draft Safety Ronnie Harrison (6-3 218) Alabama?
February 16th, 2018 at 10:17 am
Then why did people want this Coaching staff back? 2yrs or 3 does not if they are that inept. Jason seems to think they are the the best smfh.
February 16th, 2018 at 3:22 pm
Why are the Bucs having little success developing 1st round and 2nd round talent?
The Bucs have changed Coaches more than Rosey Odonald visits the buffet line
Yet same thing
Maybe it’s the lockerroom
Maybe it’s a lack of WIN ONLY WIN
February 17th, 2018 at 11:05 am
The Bucs don’t necessarily need to get younger at CB, they need to get better. Whether its young,old or somewhere in between.