McCoy Turns The Wrong Corner
February 25th, 2018
No, the headline isn’t a Jameis Winston driving joke.
Joe is talking about Gerald McCoy getting a bear hug from Father Time today. Your face of the franchise (like it or not) has turned 30 years old.
Happy Birthday, Gerald!!
At the Pro Bowl, Joe found McCoy as a man in very, very good spirits, a guy who was full of gratitude and insight, introspection and optimism for his beloved Buccaneers.
That is tough duty around these parts, and it requires a man who yearns to win and see the good in his teammates.
McCoy has endured a 10-game losing streak (2011) and grinded through a second-half-of-the-season collapse (2012). He’s stomached an 0-8 start (2013), and he was a star on a 2-14 football team (2014). He also played through an epic December collapse (2015) and a head-shaking 5-11 season on the NFL’s worst defense (2017).
It’s almost amazing he hasn’t asked for a trade.
Joe suspects McCoy stays sane, in part, because he has earned about $100 million of Team Glazer loot playing for those many brutal Buccaneers teams. That has a way of soothing a man.
Regardless, Joe notes the McCoy birthday because it symbolizes how the franchise has very much wasted what could be the best years of McCoy’s career. It’s a lot to expect two more top-shelf seasons from McCoy. It’s hard to stay at the top of the game as a 10th-year defensive tackle and McCoy has eight years and several injuries in the books.
McCoy’s time very much is now, and McCoy truly knows he has an expiration date.
Joe expects one more fantastic season from McCoy. As free agency approaches, the way the Bucs proceed might tell us if that’s all they expect, too.
February 25th, 2018 at 8:49 pm
In before tmaxcon
February 25th, 2018 at 8:52 pm
Agree with him about the general state of the team, don’t particularly agree about McCoy. Howard thinks McCoy is an asset, not a problem
February 25th, 2018 at 9:08 pm
If I had his talent I wouldn’t focus it on sleeping with Tmax’s Wife, Mother, and Sister.
February 25th, 2018 at 9:08 pm
Really Joe? Can’t type T_max without an underscore or something?
February 25th, 2018 at 9:10 pm
Happy Birthday to 93. I would take a complete team of Geralds over a team full of Clown Jaboos anytime
February 25th, 2018 at 9:21 pm
Lol………..Still love this site.
February 25th, 2018 at 9:22 pm
All this talk of not signing Campbell. We don’t have a chance he signed with Jacksonville without even meeting the coaches or anybody. He didn’t sit face to face see the facilities or nothing until he was signed. If he went on several visits before signing I would say there was a chance. He did no visits just signed with no meetings. So us and 30 other teams had no chance. So quit with the 17 millionlying around cause it’s still lying around. I read plenty of articles last off-season of how great of a deal we got on baker. And that he is a late bloomer and got 4 or 6 sacks as a part time player. You never know until that free agent takes the field what you have. Most football players are system players. Then there are your select few who can dominate in any system. Unfortunately we have neither
February 25th, 2018 at 9:23 pm
I would be a lot more worried about our cornerback that
will be 35 in July.
He had some injuries last year and Miko stated he only played at 80% all year.
Far better off not counting on people to come back. The future is now.
As for McCoy, Its a tough place to play, Who knows when his skills will erode.
February 25th, 2018 at 9:24 pm
Can’t wait for the cascade of sh!t soon to be delivered by CancerTmax.
February 25th, 2018 at 9:31 pm
Campbell said he wanted to play for bucs so you are wrong.
In the end money talked. If we had offered that same amount he would have come here.
February 25th, 2018 at 10:04 pm
He should ask for a trade. David too. Careers wasted here.
February 25th, 2018 at 10:09 pm
I hate that we’ve wasted most of his career by not giving him competent help on the ends. In my view he would’ve hit double digits a long time ago if he had.
February 25th, 2018 at 10:11 pm
We wasted his career with bad draft after bad draft after botched personal moves. but hey he made somemajo coin wow
February 25th, 2018 at 10:20 pm
Move McCoy to DE in the 3-4 and he can be a double digit sacker this year and really get his spirits up, but he needs to decline the Captain of the Defense honor and defer that over to Kwon who can use that to really fire up the defense. His injuries have come from fighting double teams his whole career; you will get more years out of him at DE in a 3-4. Let Stevie T take on the double teams.
February 25th, 2018 at 10:42 pm
100 million is a wasted career?
Retire and go fishing. Save your brain. Even if you win a super bowl people around here won’t be happy.
February 25th, 2018 at 11:38 pm
Well he never worked any overtime…it could be worst..he could have played for the Pats the past 8 seasons.
Tampa Bay Bucs 0 playoff games past 8 seasons
New England 19 playoff games last 8 seasons
You see it’s not all bad playing for the Bucs
After the last game he can stop off at Publix
Get his Ice Cream and enjoy the offseason
February 26th, 2018 at 12:06 am
I believe they should have TRADED him at the deadline … and that they should TRADE him NOW before he loses what value he has, and that is NOT a dig at GMC’s talent level or play … it’s just that a team with as many holes as the Bucs shouldn’t have so much salary tied up in one 30 year old DE plain and simple imho.
February 26th, 2018 at 2:08 am
His name is
Tmaxipad
call him by the disgusting title he deserves.
February 26th, 2018 at 3:06 am
Happy Birthday McCoy. It’s been a pleasure watching you wreak havoc for the Bucs all these years. One of my all-time favorite Bucs, both on and off the field.
February 26th, 2018 at 5:33 am
Happy Birthday GMC; you’ll be a HOF’er one day imho.
February 26th, 2018 at 6:31 am
Yes…..30 means he very well could be Tmax’ Father…..GMC could have had Tmax when he was around 20. The abandonment by GMC could explain Tmax’s hatred but how can you blame GMC? Who wouldn’t abandon a constant crybaby like Tmax.
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February 26th, 2018 at 6:49 am
@Nflnut…. seriously HOF for Mccoy??? Seriously?? WHAT exactly has he accomplished that makes him HOF worthy??? His ability to make gullible fans as well as media believe that because he is double teamed on every single play (ahham bullspit) he does not have more sacks than 6 per season on average. Or is it the fact that he gets “hurt” in the 4th quarter of any game we need him. What makes him HOF worthy?
February 26th, 2018 at 7:53 am
NFLNut Says:
February 26th, 2018 at 5:33 am
Happy Birthday GMC; you’ll be a HOF’er one day imho.
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Just like you think Jameis is on a HoF trajectory, 😂!
No sir, not yet!
Happy Birhday, Gerald!
February 26th, 2018 at 8:13 am
Same personality as Michael Jackson beware kiddies
February 26th, 2018 at 8:31 am
JOE,
They say the first thing to go is a players speed…… Gerald is known for his “quick get off” and he just turned 30. One can only hope that the Bucs brass is ready to write checks for ALL of the top tier DL this year.
-Concerned Bucs fan
February 26th, 2018 at 9:21 am
Welp! The Rams are making their team better meanwhile in Tampa it’s cupcakes and ice cream for everyone! HBD Cupcake!
February 26th, 2018 at 9:23 am
The organization has failed GMC in a similar way that they are failing Jameis Winston.
February 26th, 2018 at 9:24 am
Really Joe? He endured the losing all these years really? Even though he’s a player it’s everyone else’s fault except McCoy wow now I’ve heard everything
It’s the coaches fault he ended his first couple years on injured reserve because he was reaching for running backs instead of getting into position, it’s everyone else’s fault that they stink at stopping the run simply McCoy job isn’t too stop the run it’s to rush the passer. Weak article and that’s being polite about it
February 26th, 2018 at 9:29 am
Happy Birthday, Gerald. It’s too bad your career was wasted in Tampa.
February 26th, 2018 at 9:30 am
Not there yet Says
“Really Joe? He endured the losing all these years really? Even though he’s a player it’s everyone else’s fault except McCoy wow now I’ve heard everything”
That is an ignorant statement.
McCoy has consistently been one of the hardest, most dedicated workers on this team. It’s not his fault the Bucs failed to build around him the way they said they would when he was drafted.
February 26th, 2018 at 9:31 am
D-Rome Says
“The organization has failed GMC in a similar way that they are failing Jameis Winston.”
Yeah, because the Bucs surrounded McCoy with talent to help him succeed. Get real, man.
February 26th, 2018 at 11:00 am
Bonzai
The only problem with your statement is that everyone who has played along side gmc has gone on to be successful elsewhere. Akeem Spence has played in more playoff games than gmc. Bennett, Clayborn the list is long very long. #Facts
February 26th, 2018 at 11:24 am
I wonder how quickly tmax would get run off this site if he was accusing Jameis of being pedophile instead of accusing GMC…
Hmmmmm 🤔🤔🤔
February 26th, 2018 at 11:30 am
DB-
The only problem with your statement is that it’s incorrect, and we’ve been over this before…
Bennet- same production as he had with the Bucs, but went to a better team.
Clayborn – even less production than he had with the Bucs outside of 1 single game in 3 years on the falcons…
A. Spence- bruh, really? A 3 sack season? You know he got 3 sacks with the Bucs in 2014 too. (And had 8 more solo tackles, which I know you covet)
Cmon man.
February 26th, 2018 at 11:34 am
How many playoff snaps do they have though? Even Michael the ghost Johnson has more playoff snaps than gmc. He’ll George Johnson has more playoff appearances. Again the list goes on and on.
February 26th, 2018 at 11:45 am
we should trade McCoy he deserves to win
February 26th, 2018 at 11:52 am
Kinda sad on how many So called Buc fans Hate on one of this teams best players..McCoy. They guy has worked his tail off over the years. Just think if the Bucs had built a Great Defense around him. But we thought we needed that great Offense. See how far that has gooten us. If they trade him, I hope McCoy goes to a Winner where he can shine during his few remaining yrs left. Cause at the rate this Buc organization is going, Our defense ain’t gonna shine for another 2 or 3 yrs.
February 26th, 2018 at 12:20 pm
Fact! McCoy could play on a Dline with ALL pro-bowl players and STILL lose games.
He’s a loser (on the football field) plain and simple just look at the people he’s played with who have all gone on to the playoffs without mcpuddingpop
How much evidence do you people need? Not 1 playoff appears his entire career but it’s always everyone else’s fault. Do not take into consideration all the bs he spews after the game and his disappearing acts during the games.
It’s not mcbuttercups fault the same way it’s not the guunnss fault.
February 26th, 2018 at 12:42 pm
He he he he he …it not the guns fault! Don’t joke like that! Damn near made me throw up! Keep guns out of schools or we will be..TAKING A KNEE AGAINST THE SCHOOL BOARD!!
February 26th, 2018 at 1:29 pm
I am not a lover of GMC because he gets paid $100 million for getting an injury of some sort almost every year, but I am also no a hater because the Glazers have never gotten him any dominating help on the d-line to where he has been double covered his entire career. Maybe should’ve thought of spending that contract money a little wiser.
February 26th, 2018 at 1:35 pm
Interesting read below posted by Gregg Rosenthal (former early columnist from the stud crew over at PFT–now NFL.com).
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000916972/article/nfl-trade-tsunami-this-offseason-could-be-defined-by-deals
Imagine that… it references Vinny Curry from PHI…as THIS loyal Bucs fan had been opining on that we should target. Cut/restructure Ayers, Gholston should be cut outright. Swap Geno Atkins for GMC (indirectly), maybe supplement with a Connor Barwin. Let Spence recover.
February 26th, 2018 at 1:55 pm
Not a GMC hater as he loves to call people who speak the truth about him, but I want to ask those who unquestionably love him a few questions:
1. Name one game of the 109 starts that McCoy has that he took over, I mean dominated. (Note, if you have to think that hard about it, then…)
2. Great players make people around them better, yet McCoy supporters are always calling for help to make McCoy better; why is that?
3. GMC has been the highest paid player on the team for the last 4 seasons. Name one game that he outright won for the Bucs in the closing minutes. I know of one, in Atlanta. Is that good ROE in 8 seasons?
4. In Gerald’s own words he said “There’s a quote from Doc Rivers in our room it is, Average players want to be left alone. Good players want to be coached. Great players want to be told the truth. Then why does Gerald only accept the comments that praise him as the truth?
Before the start of last season, the Bucs got another annual speech from McCoy. He said someone, who he refused to name, said this: “the gist of what it is, is I haven’t done enough to lead this team, simple as that. This team goes to the next level, as much as you need a franchise quarterback and those things are great, this organization, this team, when the Super Bowl is built on defense and that guy in the middle is what makes everything roll.”
He said that in 2017 he would lead, but he sat quietly with the anointed “C” on his jersey while Chris Baker played well below his capability in practice and in games. But, in McCoy’s defense, he was busy dancing with little girls for the Hard Knocks cameras, so he may have not have noticed. The Buccaneers now own the bad end of a highlight game, the number 1 rated game by Red Skins fans, one the worst implosions in Buccaneer history, if not the NFL when the McCoy lead defense gave up a 25 – 0 lead to a man who coined a phrase after the game, “You like that!” That big smile and handshake McCoy gave Cousins after that game is ever etched in my memory.
McCoy, who is a 1-trick pony, his get-off is one of the best in the league, has just turned 30 after a steady decline in sacks since the year before his current contract was signed. After being paid $100 Million Dollars, some are saying that Gerald wasted his talents with the Bucs. If it was your $100 Mil, and your defensive centerpiece had not contributed to a single playoff win, how would you feel about your investment?
Gerald’s supporters always come back to his Pro Bowls, but I say, Pro Bowls are 50% play and 50% popularity. Gerald is a VERY likable and popular guy. I am not a Gerald McCoy hater. I separate the great person that is Gerald McCoy from his play on the field. The facts speak for themselves, for anyone who cares to see them. Remember McCoy’s own words, “Great players want to be told the truth.”
February 26th, 2018 at 2:57 pm
KfromFla- Ironically enough, the 4 questions you pose are the same questions that are repeated over and over to critique GMC.
He’s a “good” player on a BAD football team. 3 of your 4 questions can be answered by that statement alone.
OUR expectations of GMC have always been too high. He is exactly the same player. He’s not a leader just because he gets paid the most. He’s just not that guy. Those are the facts. You expect too much.
The Baker incident; where was everybody else? There’s 53 guys! What about the Beasting Ayers, the veteran guy who was going to take over leadership. And frankly, I think it’s insulting that we don’t put most of the blame on the coaches and the dummies who brought Baker here KNOWING he had issues.
GMC is who he is. He’s an aging, decent DT who plays on a bad football team.
February 26th, 2018 at 3:19 pm
For those of you who are new(ish) to jbf here’s the video that the new Bucs dline coach Buckner was referring to.
GMC leading his troops onto the field …. begins mark 0:18secs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qRC4Vk6kisY
February 26th, 2018 at 3:29 pm
It’s time to entertain any type of trade options for McCoy.
February 26th, 2018 at 5:20 pm
Bucsfanman, I do understand what you are saying, but Gerald has been wearing a “C” for 5 seasons or so. He was elected to lead, he as failed at that duty. If he accepts the “C”, it becomes his job to lead, period. His teammates entrusted that important duty to him. If he was not up to the task, the “Man” thing to do would be to decline the offer to hold the position. That is life 101.
I am not advocating that the Bucs cut him, he is a very god player. He is not an EFFECTIVE leader, which means he is taking up an important position that could go to someone like Ayres who perhaps would have got into Baker’s grill. No one in the locker room is going to go over McCoy’s head and lead, and that is a problem, even for Kwon who would gladly take it over, but not as long as McCoy owns that Defensive locker room. It is a cruel conundrum. It is up to Koetter to see the leadership problem on the defensive side and do something about it. A man-to-man with McCoy must be the first step. I’m just not sure Koetter has the rocks to tell McCoy to step aside.
February 27th, 2018 at 1:49 pm
lol Db wtf did you just have me watch? hahaha