Report: Jay Hayes Fired
February 11th, 2018
Reportedly terminated.
UPDATED 2:18 a.m. – It seems the Bucs have accountability.
Per Jenna Laine of ESPN, the Bucs parted ways with defensive line coach Jay Hayes, who this past season oversaw a line that produced the least sacks in the NFL.
Hayes is a good dude and Joe is sad for him. The lone question for Joe is, if Hayes was deemed bad enough to get rid of, why wait nearly six weeks after the season when the best candidates to replace him are entrenched with other teams?
The answer should come soon.
Hayes came to the Dirk Koetter regime from the Bengals, where he spent 13 seasons guiding a highly respected unit known for its depth and seven- and eight-man rotations and depth.
February 11th, 2018 at 1:19 am
Because Bucs.
February 11th, 2018 at 1:20 am
Thank for your services Mr. Hayes.
Extremely respect around the league.
Wish U nothing but the best Sir.
February 11th, 2018 at 1:21 am
#Repost
Hire – Craig Kuligowski (U.Miami) as the Defensive Line Coach
Craig Kuligowski’s defensive linemen picked in the first two rounds of the draft since 2009. The full list since then:
• 2009: Ziggy Hood || 32nd overall to the Steelers
• 2011: Aldon Smith|| seventh overall to the 49ers
• 2013: **Sheldon Richardson || 13th overall to the Jets
• 2014: **Kony Ealy ||60th overall to the Panthers
• 2015: Shane Ray || 23rd overall to the Broncos
• 2015: Markus Golden || 58th overall to the Patriots
• 2016: Harris || 22nd overall to the Dolphins
Others
• Brian Smith
• Jacquies Smith
• Michael Sam
• C.J. Mosley
Note: Impressive list of talent for one position group for any school. Even Alabama, which recruits more trench talent than just about anyone, has only had three second-rounders and one first-rounder (Marcell Dareus in 2011) in that stretch.
Update:
**Sheldon Richardson
** Kony Ealy
Maybe hiring their old position coach will give us the leg-up in negotiations.
February 11th, 2018 at 1:22 am
• Position Coach Upgrades
February 11th, 2018 at 1:24 am
You’re right Joe. The ideal time to fire Jay Hayes would’ve been right after the season came to a close. All of the potential NFL Assistants are locked in at this point. I guess the Bucs have a College Coach in mind.
February 11th, 2018 at 1:26 am
He did fine with Ghost Johnson and the d-line in Cincinnati but for some reason couldn’t get it done in Tampa.
February 11th, 2018 at 1:29 am
Bring in Jack Del Rio and get rid of Smith while we are at it!!!!!!
I like Hayes though…I really do, but it could be he’s burned out with the team..I know I am! lol!
February 11th, 2018 at 1:32 am
The d-line coach must already be picked out if not lined up
February 11th, 2018 at 1:41 am
Every player he coached got worse. Guaranteed the players went and said something to get rid of this cancer.
February 11th, 2018 at 1:44 am
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The lone question for Joe is, if Hayes was deemed bad enough to get rid of, why wait nearly six weeks after the season when the best candidates to replace him are entrenched with other teams?
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Joe,
As U know – Many college recruits choose schools based on coaches.
So, maybe the potential coach – is coming from the college ranks.
And he just wanted a couple verbal/written commits – before his departure/hire.
February 11th, 2018 at 1:51 am
Tampabaybucfan Says:
February 10th, 2018 at 1:10 pm
….I’m beginning to agree that our fabulous coach Jay Hayes, isn’t able to develop a player so lets get one who is already developed.
In the words of Alanis Morrisset, isn’t that ironic lol
February 11th, 2018 at 2:06 am
I SECOND THE CRAIG KULIGOWSKI SUGGESTION!
February 11th, 2018 at 2:13 am
Craig Kuligowski – Mic’d Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5_A_Y74g4U
#WeNeedMo’Juice
February 11th, 2018 at 2:32 am
Coach Kool’s
Potential Defensive Line Prospects: University Of Miami
Chad Thomas – DE | Height: 6-5. Weight: 277 | Projected 40 Time: 4.73
R.J. McIntosh – DT | Height: 6-5. Weight: 293 | Projected 40 Time: 5.20
Kendrick Norton – NT | Height: 6-3. Weight: 318 | Projected 40 Time: 5.23
All Three – Can help the Bucs Out Immensely!
February 11th, 2018 at 2:49 am
Was it Smith, Koetter, Licht, or ownership that initiated the action? Inquiring minds want to know. It will say a lot about the reason.
February 11th, 2018 at 2:54 am
BTW, Joe, while slow, you’re still in the know.
February 11th, 2018 at 3:25 am
Should have been earlier but at least we are seeing a change. It all starts upfront, no pining in even mentioning the DB group of the DLnis not fixed.
February 11th, 2018 at 4:25 am
Hallelujah! Bucs have found their sacrificial lamb! It was DEFINITELY Jay Hayes fault that the Bucs went 5-11. Don’t know what college coach is taking over for him, but as of now I have to put my money on 11-5 this year. Yup, accountability reigns supreme in Bucsville. Dumb asses.
Go back & look at what the Bengals DLine did in 2014 & 2015 (last 2 yrs Hayes coached them). 2014: 20 sacks (defense ranked #12 in the NFL with 344 Points Allowed) and Bengals finished with a 10-5-1 record (lost in the playoffs). 2015: 42 sacks (defense ranked #2 in the NFL with 279 Points Allowed) and Bengals finished with a 12-4 record (lost in playoffs).
Only 2 DLine guys are what I’d consider to be household names: DT Geno Atkins & DE Carlos Dunlap. The rest are guys like Gilberry (remember him?), Will Clarke (yup, same Clarke), Michael Johnson (went back to the Bengals & added 5 sacks in 2015 from … tada, the Bucs).
Difference between those 2 DLines? Virtually nothing from a personnel standpoint (lost 1 added 1 but that was inconsequential) and oh ya, Michael Johnson returned to the Bengals in 2015. Carlos Dunlap’s sacks went from 8 to 13.5 and Geno Atkins sacks went from 3 to 11 (2014 to 2015). NT Peko went from 1 to 5 and Michael Johnson returned & added 5 sacks in 2015. Same coaches, almost identical personnel (BTW, non-DLine only added 4 sacks both years, give or take .5 sacks).
For some reason, I kinda get the impression that Jay Hayes wasn’t the problem in Cincinnati, but rather a big part of the solution. Also get the funny feeling that Hayes wasn’t the problem in Bucsville either. We just happen to like scapegoats.
February 11th, 2018 at 4:32 am
This is so funny. I heard Joe Cullen was already approached by Klueless Koetter and Cullen turned him down. What a dumpster fire this team a coaching staff is.
February 11th, 2018 at 5:27 am
We should go and get Keith Millard he got a decent year out of clayborn his rookie year
February 11th, 2018 at 6:34 am
Well, now to replace a few D line players too. I dont know what happened. He seemed to be a great hire at first but then look at the performance. Maybe its the lack of talent combined with something else, maybe he was tired of trying and loosing the fight that was in him while in Cinci….who knows.
As always, LUV is on it though. Man I wish I hadthe time to put into this like you, lol. Too many bills and too much OT at work for now. But yeah Kuligowski would be a great pick up!
And I have a feeling a few more firings will also occur….
February 11th, 2018 at 6:52 am
He’s a good line coach, no disputing it but someone had to be the scapegoat for Lichts awful group of d linemen
February 11th, 2018 at 7:04 am
Jay went to my church and I had the opportunity to talk with him most times he was there. He is a very nice man with a wonderful family. I was very impressed with how respectful his kids are. It is a shame he couldn’t coachthe line as well as we needed him too. Good luck Jay.
February 11th, 2018 at 7:11 am
Great timing, a) no coaches are available worth anything, b) maybe hayes was promised DC by now c) who is coming to this dumpster fire where entire mgt and staff are lame ducks, no one wants 1 year bucs DL coach on your resume
only other thing is, maybe mike smith, getting HC at indy wants hayes?
February 11th, 2018 at 7:16 am
While its puzzling why he was fired at this late date,We needto get bigger and stronger on defense. This is where Jason Light has to get much better in free agency.and focus on the D line .
We didn’t produce enough sacks,but we also were poor at stopping the run.
I was looking at the tackle for loss leaders for 2017 which listed players with
7 TFL’s or more.Teams with multiple contributors include: ( Note this also may include LB’s)
Philadelphia 50 TFL’s
Minnesota 44 TFL’s
Rams 38 TFL’s
Atlanta 35 TFL’s
Bucs only had three player combine for 27 TFL’s.The breakdown was McCoy 13 and Kwon and Beckwith each with 7.
We have to have more production from our D line.
February 11th, 2018 at 7:29 am
Edit: list also includes some safeties.
And here’s one I find interesting Mike Hilton corner for Pittsburg with 10.
February 11th, 2018 at 7:39 am
Mr. Hayes Boss is the one that should have been fired…. His name…..Mr. Smith. Think there’s anyone still around to replace him????
February 11th, 2018 at 8:01 am
Another backstabbing move, i guess the head coach, found a scapegoat. Coach H, hang in their, probably a blessing.
February 11th, 2018 at 8:05 am
Kansas95Buc Says:
February 11th, 2018 at 1:51 am
Tampabaybucfan Says:
February 10th, 2018 at 1:10 pm
….I’m beginning to agree that our fabulous coach Jay Hayes, isn’t able to develop a player so lets get one who is already developed.
In the words of Alanis Morrisset, isn’t that ironic lol
Kansas City Buc Fan
Thanks for re-posting this……timing was good here….once in a while I get it right and I think the Bucs got this right. For the exception of GMC, McDonald and Spence we may have a great number of new Dline players….none of our current line showed improvement under Hayes…..nice guy’s finish last.
February 11th, 2018 at 8:23 am
Could be the man was stuck with players who did not have the ability to improve or develop.
It’s also an unwritten rule that if your going to fire a position coach do it early enough where the guy could catch on somewhere else.
Dirty pool. They just noticed the dline play sucked? And does this mean they think they have the personnel in place and just need a different coach?
Timing is odd.
February 11th, 2018 at 8:31 am
@Eric
I expect wholesale changes in personnel also…
February 11th, 2018 at 8:37 am
I am aware of what he did in Cincy, but he did not get the job done here in Tampa.
February 11th, 2018 at 8:40 am
no biggie….
February 11th, 2018 at 8:46 am
Another great coach who comes to tampa and regresses…. No coach can survive cancer93
February 11th, 2018 at 8:49 am
tmax…did McCoy blow off your autograph request once upon a time ?
February 11th, 2018 at 9:00 am
Scapegoat for the bigger problem. A new d-line coach won’t resolve the defensive issues that I saw last year.
February 11th, 2018 at 9:00 am
AlteredEgo
nope but he blows his damn job off 6 to 8 times a year and admitly states he came out flat…. can’t have your highest paid team captain coming out flat and leading his team to another blowout. no bucs team captain has led more blowouts than cancer93 and that says a lot given the history of the bucs being a laughing stock more than not.
February 11th, 2018 at 9:03 am
@Tmaxcon
He has quite the body count for position coaches!!!!!! My favorite part is when he half azz stunts or different line up because they don’t help him be “disruptive” and then complains that they don’t work!!!!!!!!
For 3 years the sacks and disruptions are on the decline!!!! But the sheep don’t want to trade before its too late and want to build to carry this guy????????
Fix the “real” problems, the “Trenches”!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!
February 11th, 2018 at 9:04 am
@ AlteredEgo
No, McCoy was just too big for tmaxcon.
February 11th, 2018 at 9:05 am
the losing culture is real and led by cancer93 until that is fixed nothing will matter. you people can keep going over all the scenarios and make all the excuses you want for cancer93 but the results prove he chokes when it matters most and comes out flat more than not. bottom line you guys can choose to have selective memory all you want but facts are facts and results don’t lie…. the great first step to nowhere is nothing more than a good dt being overpaid for first qtr production. not a single meaningful win in 8 year career. nobody loves to lose like the cryin clown
February 11th, 2018 at 9:06 am
realists
cancer93’s coaching body count is nearing that of the assistant coach body count Loser Lovie Produced…. bodies everywhere
February 11th, 2018 at 9:06 am
NO WINS just BODIES
February 11th, 2018 at 9:07 am
Tmaxcon is still trolling cancer don’t acknowledge Him ever maybe could go away lmao
February 11th, 2018 at 9:11 am
Citrus college defensive line coach- jarron gilbert
February 11th, 2018 at 9:16 am
Buccaneer scotty
maybe you could raise your standards and stop nuthugging a career loser with a great first step to nowhere.
February 11th, 2018 at 9:20 am
Maybe this is just wishful thinking, but maybe he was let go so we can bring in a coach with experience with 3-4 d-lines. I guess we have to wait to see the new D-Line coach.
February 11th, 2018 at 9:20 am
Helluva post.
I’m in the middle. GMC is talented, makes a ton of money, AND defenses led (by his paycheck) are by and large underperforming, with a stench of a wretched losers mentality and softness.
Winning is the best deodorant.
February 11th, 2018 at 9:21 am
And the losing doesn’t seem to phase him, maybe it does? But, the attitude that is portrayed is that it is “ok”.
February 11th, 2018 at 9:27 am
Conte Piscatelli
never be a 3-4 front in tampa with Cancer93 on the team… He has STATED MULTIPLE times is is a 4-3 3 Technique nothing else. again he has publicly stated he won’t play another position…. great attitude from your highest paid team captain… just another religious hypocrite no character fraudulent POS and the undisputed face of the basement years.
February 11th, 2018 at 9:47 am
There ya go Joe – your fire defensive position coach(es) campaign finally getting some traction. Better late than never – amiright?
February 11th, 2018 at 10:08 am
WOW!!!!!!!!!!
This team, this organization is about as stupid as it gets. The defense does HORRIBLE and what do the Bucs decide to do? THEY FIRE THE MOST CREDIBLE COACH ON THE ENTIRE STAFF!!!!!
Arguably one of the best Dline coaches in the league with Cincy. Consistent, comes hearts and all of a sudden can’t coach? SCREW THJIS TEAM!!!!!
February 11th, 2018 at 10:13 am
The fall guy for koetter… we all know mike smith falls with koetter out the door when we go 5-11 again thats koetters buddy
February 11th, 2018 at 10:15 am
Defense Rules – The defensive struggles had NOTHING to do with Hayes. The low sack totals had NOTHING to do with the line.
Been saying for years and its always the same crap, you can’t sack somebody when everyone on the field is wide open. The soft zone scheme that our dbs are playing leave so many wide open holes in the field that a simple slant route almost guarantees every play that there is someone to dump to before the lineman gets there. It’s impossible, this is common sense bullshlt.
The Bucs just fired the best coach on their staff. GO BUCS!!!!!
February 11th, 2018 at 10:20 am
I think Hayes probably told them straight up not to expect an increase in sacks as long as they keep using this crap scheme.
Dirk probably didn’t like him talking bad about his boyfriends coaching so did what he had to do. Otherwise Smith would have had him sleeping on the couch.
February 11th, 2018 at 10:22 am
Conte could be onto something. Might explain the reason it took so long.
February 11th, 2018 at 10:38 am
I see our Bucs are reverting back to their old ways. Trying to trat the virus while the real cause of the virus remain…Pressbox Smitty. This does nothing Buc fams. Mike Smith get another coach and he sits high atop the game with his binculars while their is no accountability defensively on the football field. I’m slowly starting to not like my Bucs. If the Bucs were gonna fire anybody, it should be DC Mike Smith. I don’t think Jay Hayes is worried. Watch another team pick him up..yesterday. What a sad frnchise this Buc team is becoming ..again.
February 11th, 2018 at 10:45 am
I thought the Ira podcast this week was dead on when they said it makes no sense to blame GMC for losing. The same people that hate on GMC love LVD who has a worse record than GMC. This is a team sport and the failures are also on the team. NFL is about results and the D line could use a new voice teaching them as it has not been effective. I am puzzled like most why Smith retained his job. If Winston can make the next jump with his QB play, I still think this team can do damage next year. This team goes a he does.
February 11th, 2018 at 10:52 am
LVD and GMC are captains of a losing defense.
I think when you look at their paychecks, specifically “what % of salary cap”, one can naturally expect “more” from those players.
GMC was the #3 overall pick in the old CBA and has made a fortunate. Folks just expect a winner.
Also, GMC has been here the longest, most associated with losing.
Finally, this defense hasn’t had a 10 sack player in a decade. GMC plays D-Line, and “sacks” are more expected from that position.
I just want to win. And, I can’t help but want to seek out the “why” for losing. Understanding “why” helps fanatics digest/get over losing.
The team wants more support, then WIN SOME GAMES.
Also, ESPN is WEAK SAUCE: no sh!t Sherlock we are getting rid of Doug Martin. Tell “Jenna” the “bold move” would be to keep Martin for another piss poor year. So out of touch some media is.
February 11th, 2018 at 10:53 am
I find it interesting that for months Joe has been calling for “accountability”……citing the firing of coaches on winning teams while the Bucs stay idle. Now we finally fire someone…..anyone…..and all the whiners and criers come out trying to defend the indefeasible.
Either you agree with Joe or not….
Now, I am one who really thinks a fish stinks from the head….so perhaps Hayes was a scapegoat….but nevertheless we now have some of the “accountability” that Joe’s been calling for.
February 11th, 2018 at 10:54 am
indefensible
February 11th, 2018 at 10:56 am
Greg Auman listed DL Coach Brentson Buckner as a possible option:
” First name that jumps to mind for Bucs DL job is Brentson Buckner. Arizona led NFL in sacks in 2016 with him as DL coach. At least 35 sacks all of his years there. He overlapped with Licht in Arizona in 2013.”
Wouldn’t hate the idea.
February 11th, 2018 at 10:57 am
Maybe increased season ticket sales will help the issue.
February 11th, 2018 at 10:58 am
I am with BucEmUp maybe the bucs put pressure and blame on Hayes and Hayes told them straight up get me the players and the line will produce. So they fired him. Just a guess. Also I am starting to lose respect for the Glazers the way they r doing things with the bucs
February 11th, 2018 at 11:16 am
Sometimes these players just need a new voice chirping at them in practice. Sometimes the old guy gets depressing and they tune them out….. New faces can be inspiring.
February 11th, 2018 at 11:16 am
Fans were crying so much about our Defense. The bucs had to produce a..sacrificial lamb from somewheres. Everybody knows who should have been fired right after the season. But he remains..smiling..testing his new binoculars for next yr. I’m not worried about Jay Hayes. He will land nicely somewhere else.
Hayes is a no nonsense type coach. I’m willing to bet he spoke his mind and heart. And the Bucs did not like it. The real cancer, Mike Smith..remains!
February 11th, 2018 at 11:25 am
I have never seen a D-Line coach that coach the secondary. Is the D-Line coach in charge of the defense? The Bucs pass defense was ranked 32nd in the NFL. It seems to me , that is the responsibility of Mike Smith, Jon Hoke and Brett Maxie.
February 11th, 2018 at 11:27 am
Maybe or should I say hopefully there are some changes scheme wise that are annoy to happen. My hope is they didn’t simply wait all this time. Gholston was at least getting 3 sacks a year prior now getting zero after a big contract, someone has to take the fall but honestly not sure what the bucs expected him to get done with what he had to work with. Not like he was a steal in the draft, he was never known as a pass rusher
February 11th, 2018 at 11:28 am
When you go from 9-7 to 5-11, the entire coaching staff should be fired. Especially when people are bragging about your B+ draft.
February 11th, 2018 at 11:51 am
CancerMax: Have you made that call to your kids yet?
February 11th, 2018 at 12:03 pm
I’m with Joe this guy is going to an in-house or from the college ranks basically gonna be a guy who doesn’t care the head coach will start the season on the hot seat
February 11th, 2018 at 12:03 pm
The Bucs need to focus with on a replacement with a track record of developing talent – a guy who also has a track record of players having career years under his tutelage.
Contrary to what most sites are proposing – the Bucs aren’t going to be able to sign or trade for any Pro Bowl DE’s this offseason. That’s a very unrealistic thing to hope for. Their chance is to draft/sign a multitude of guys and develop them into the type of players they want.
This upcoming hire is a crucial one for the current regime. It’s make or break time.
Fix the trenches, fix the Bucs!!
February 11th, 2018 at 12:40 pm
Tmax,
I don’t believe Mike Smith will ever do this but…….
keep GMcCoy at his 3 position with one more DT. Bring 2 LB’s or 1 and a SS to stand up at the line. This way MCCoy is on the field w players the team is deep at.
This team isn’t built for a 3-4. So to get more LB’s on the field it’s going to require “New thinking, innovative” yes I know seldom are those words in the same sentence with Mike Smith.
February 11th, 2018 at 12:48 pm
What is it with the Bucs & Bengals players & coaches. Del Rio would be a great DC for the Bucs as he moves toward being the HC.
February 11th, 2018 at 1:20 pm
Amazing! Forrest Gump drafts a 230lb pass rusher with 1 shoulder and the following year brings in a fat malcont who destroyed the culture and caused inter fighting in the locker rm and they blame/ fire a position coach
Whats in that licht ale beer the sheep been drinking?
“The Teflon meathead is untouchable” jay hayes
February 11th, 2018 at 1:34 pm
A lot was made of Noah Spence claiming he heard coaching tips from Simeon Rice that he had never heard before. Perhaps there was more behind that statement.
Of course Aaron Donald the D MVP claims he watches video of GMC to pick up some rushing tips yet I hardly view that as an indictment of Rams D coaches.
Perhaps though Noah was onto something.
February 11th, 2018 at 1:36 pm
Once this new D-Line coach take the challenge of trying to develop an edge rusher in Tampa Bay. He will be the 7th D-Line coach in the past 10 seasons.
Good Luck
February 11th, 2018 at 2:06 pm
He had so much to work with, the ONE draft pick got hurt, the other never was a pass rusher, ish starts at the top
February 11th, 2018 at 2:07 pm
I’ve been screaming for one coach’s name to finally come up to NFL from college ranks. It’s time for BRENT VENNABLE, Clemson’s DC to come help us out. This guy can coach PERIOD!
February 11th, 2018 at 2:19 pm
The Bucs finished the 2017 season with 22 sacks, the fewest of any team in the league. They also surrendered 378.1 yards per game, more than any other team in the league. This is the first defensive change the Bucs have made this year. Not sure how everyone else felt but when I watched tape of Hates on game day and could hear him yelling at players over and over again you could see it in the players faces. No respect. Lets move on and get a coach who can teach some of these players a spin move or a counter move.
February 11th, 2018 at 2:24 pm
godzilla13
Why not bring in a proven sack master like the Falcons, Carolina did with Dwight Freeney and Julius Peppers? It seems the young guys will learn more from proven vets than a position coach.
February 11th, 2018 at 2:26 pm
We wanted accountability, now we have it
February 11th, 2018 at 2:46 pm
This reminds me of the time when Lovie Smith fired Ron Rivera as the Bears DC, after they lost the Super Bowl to the Colts. Then a few years later, he fired Steve Wilks as DB coach. Steve Wilks joined Rivera in San Diego and later in Carolina. And the Bears continue to stink. Now Steve Wilks is the Head Coach of the Arizona Cardinals and Ron Rivera has been the Head coach of the Carolina Panthers for 7 seasons. Lovie Smith is the Head Coach of a college team.
The stench fall from the top to the bottom
Not the bottom to the top
February 11th, 2018 at 2:50 pm
I completely agree with this move, but I also would have understood if the Bucs kept him on.
Really, you cannot squeeze blood from a turnip. Hayes had next to nothing to work with. I know, some people think he should have gotten something more out of who was here, but you know what? If all you have is trash, no amount of coaching will do the job.
That said…
…I believe it is a good move to fire him. They should fire all but three players from the defensive line too.
February 11th, 2018 at 2:53 pm
Sort of on topic…I don’t think they waited too long at all. I think they were waiting until after the superbowl.
All the teams scrambled for the coaches as they hit the streets. Some might have been good options, but the teams who got deeper into the playoffs had not released their coaches yet.
Now they have.
Certainly, we can do no worse.
February 11th, 2018 at 2:57 pm
Jay Hayes probably called out the team for drafting a kicker in the 2nd round instead of a defensive linemen, remember he ran the drills for the defensive linemen at the combines that year when we drafted the great Aguayo
February 11th, 2018 at 3:01 pm
He is probably too classy to call them out for how he likely called them out for their terrible scheme. So they fired him.
February 11th, 2018 at 3:28 pm
It’s not only players that play better elsewhere but, coaches coach better elsewhere.
Ie: Raheem, Shiano, Mike Shula, Leslie Frazier, Greg Olsen etc. I’m sure I’m missing some. Hayes probably forced his way out of this seismic fart. The culture seems to be terrible.
APB for Eddie DeBartalo!!!
February 11th, 2018 at 4:18 pm
Damn not gonna mention any names but damn we’ve got some Miami Hurricane lovers on here don’t we “luvmybucs” She it
February 11th, 2018 at 4:35 pm
Jay Hayes is probably somewhere celebrating with the family. This is the worst organization in all sports.
February 11th, 2018 at 4:36 pm
They may give the position to Paul Spicer. I don’t think they can find anyone else willing to accept it.
February 11th, 2018 at 5:52 pm
Hmmmm
February 11th, 2018 at 5:52 pm
This has less to do with accountability and more about a switch to a 3-4 defense imo. I dont recall Hayes having experience in a 3-4 defense and i could definetely see a switch come next year. We have the LB’s to run it and i sincerely doubt they drafted a 255 lb Spence to run as a 4-3 DE long term. I see a quicker turnaround for the pass rush if they make the change to a 3-4(hopefully with a healthy Spence)and maybe draft a Vita Vea.
February 11th, 2018 at 5:55 pm
Bucs just cut the best coach on the defense. It’s funny when all the idiots get their way.
Can’t wait to see what the excuses are when they get a new dline coach and all new dline.man and the d still sucks. What’s gonna be the reason for the bad d then….realist???!!!!!
February 11th, 2018 at 6:27 pm
BucEmUp
Don’t feel sorry for Jay Hayes, he’s free of this cesspool of a team. Feel sorry for the remaining coaches. They have to endure another year of torture in Tampa Bay.
February 11th, 2018 at 6:29 pm
He’ll go somewhere else and pick up right where he left off in Cincinnati.
This coaching staff is garbage. Mike Smith is garbage.
February 11th, 2018 at 6:42 pm
Lakeland,
I’M confident in our offense going forward with Koetter, but At this point i am happy for Hayes. He was the best defensive coach on this staff and he just got fired. Anyone who thinks he was even close to being the problem with our dline is a complete moron. That includes fans and the head coach/gm
February 11th, 2018 at 6:46 pm
Bug brand if you think this move has anything to do with a switch keep holding your breath. It will be the same scheme, same soft zone same front and same results regardless of the roster. My now nail clippings could make better decisions than this organization..I knew after this year that Koetter didn’t have the balls to fire Smith, I didn’t know the gm was that soft too
February 11th, 2018 at 7:06 pm
What I don’t understand, the Bucs gave up 4012 passing yards in 2016. And then they come back and give up 4169 passing yards in 2017. The only teams to give up over 4,000 passing yards in 2016 and 2017 were the Giants and the Bucs. The Giants fired their secondary coaches, but the Bucs hold on to theirs.
Who is responsibility for this, if not the DC and the secondary coaches?
February 11th, 2018 at 7:33 pm
he spent 13 seasons guiding a highly respected unit
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I smell McIceCream all over this decision. Hayes probably pushed him too hard or was mean or maybe jay knew McIceCream was garbage and said so out loud leading to his firing but wtfdik.
February 11th, 2018 at 7:57 pm
Mike Johnson……I tend to agree with you!!!! GMC is not the Cancer!!! Mike Smith is the Cancer… Get rid of him and we got a chance. Keep him as we did and we do not have a chance. I may be wrong but I may not be. IMO we are in trouble again in 18.
February 11th, 2018 at 8:47 pm
When is GMC is getting fired?? That’s the one I’m looking forward to
February 11th, 2018 at 8:52 pm
Wow. Just wow.
You people have been whining constantly about them keeping the coaches, and now you get you way and whine about that.
Bunch of posers.
February 11th, 2018 at 8:53 pm
Maybe because your 🌟 DT aka Mr. Flat is only a 3 tech and 3 tech only ……Ur always stuck game planning a certain way. It really doesn’t matter the coach.
February 11th, 2018 at 9:07 pm
People have been whining about Dirk Koetter and Mike Smith. And those 2 are still with the team. Getting rid of a scapegoat won’t solve the problem. As long as those two are still in charge of the offense and the defense. The team will still stink.
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February 11th, 2018 at 9:09 pm
I don’t care as long as they’re not on my team
Arthur Blank
February 11th, 2018 at 9:09 pm
Back in 2015 he was the heir-apparent to DC when Mike Smith got a HC gig because the Bucs defense was so awesome. That obviously never happened. Now he’s stuck as the Bucs DL coach…..a fate worse than death…..
yeah…..he wanted out of the dumpster fire and the Koetter/Licht /Smith knew it. Look for him to re-emerge somewhere with a better defense.
February 11th, 2018 at 9:27 pm
What a minute…. Smitty can use the excuse, I don’t have the players but Hayes can’t…. That’s BS….he was good last year when we went 9-7…. now that we finish 5-11 he’s the only coach to get fired…. But an offense that also underachieved promotes a coach….. Guess I’ll add Hayes to the list of excuses……
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!!…..GO BUCS!!!!!
February 11th, 2018 at 10:14 pm
I love when Buccaneer BrownEye bows her chest and calls people posers etc. on here. Maybe…just maybe Buc fans wanted someone else such as Mike Smith canned vs. the only coach who actually has a presence/isn’t a limp chimp on the staff currently.
February 11th, 2018 at 11:22 pm
Like a boat full of Lawyers sinking . .
Thats a good start!
About 6 more need to be cleaning out their desk- Especially Mike Smith.
Makes you wanna puke.
Jack Del Rio is sitting at home, and we have Mike Smith( And Dirk Koetter, for that matter)
Throw money at Jack, until he comes here as DC.
Give Koetter ONE MORE YEAR to get that offense on the right track.
And put Licht on notice- if this team goes into game one without 2 or more Great DEs, and a new CB and RB- hes Fking history!
Of course, none of that will happen. This is the Bucs.
Raise tickets to see a consistently crappy team. Keep the same DC who coached us to the worst Defense in the league .
They are probably writing their speeches for next January- tellng us that, despite the team always sucking, they are deeply committed to building a Champion!
Yeah. In England.