Free Agency Countdown: 20 Days — Colvin Will Be Free
February 22nd, 2018
Freedom imminent
With all the uncertainty surrounding the Buccaneers’ cornerbacks, the ideal addition would be a highly versatile young veteran who won’t completely break the bank.
Multiple reports out of Jacksonville, starting with Jags reporter Hays Carlyon and ending with Prickly Pete Prisco of CBS Sports, claim cornerback Aaron Colvin will walk from the Jags next month simply because they can’t afford to pay him.
The 26-year-old nickel and outside corner is the third wheel to the Jags’ two wealthy Pro Bowl corners, A.J. Bouye and Jalen Ramsey.
Colvin has played outside during his four years in Jacksonville but settled in last year as a full-time nickel, including an interception in the playoffs, his first career pick.
He’s a good football player. If you’re a “value” guy in free agency, Colvin could be your man. The versatility of Colvin also could afford the Bucs to be a little more patient with Vernon Hargreaves. Trust Joe, the Bucs are not throwing in the towel on 22-year-old Hargreaves.
Joe has written about Colvin previously and positively. Is he Brent Grimes? No. Is he Ryan Smith? Hell no.
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:10 am
now your are talking joe. young with upside. you got to get passed the geriatrics, injury prone and trying to relive the past with has beens that never were. this player is step in the right direction for you. keep it up and resist the failed past and geriatric injury prone bums.
this is a player that actually can help.
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:10 am
I am pulling for a Fuller signing. Fuller + Grimes retained 2 years ideally.
CB1-Grimes/Smith
CB2-Fuller/draft pick
Nickle-VHIII/jude or mcclain or elliot
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:11 am
“A good nickel, but he will never play on the outside.” -Trusted Jags scout
Not worth our money Joe.
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:13 am
Yes everyone thinks Hargreaves should be a seasoned vet. But then again “he’s only 22” right?
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:13 am
Congratulations TMax your first Positive post, sorta. lol
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:13 am
If we’re spending on a corner then it needs to be someone like Rashaan Melvin or Trumaine Johnson. I don’t even think I’d be all that thrilled about paying Malcolm Butler.
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:24 am
OrlandoJoe
bucs need a nickel too they do NOT have a single NFL caliber CB signed for next year…. VH3-BUST is beyond garbage and his only future is coaching little rugrats in clearwater.
Evolvingbucfan
I’d love to positive more often that being said facts and reality do not allow for much positives when being a buc fan. the cycle is brutal and will be so next years as well….. overflowing optimism for underwear football, nut punched by week 4 and draft talk by week 8…. it’s a buc life
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:26 am
Yeah tmax, that was almost uplifting!
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:26 am
Lamarcus Joyner DB LA RAMS
and
Patrick Robinson CB Philly
are the two guys I want the Bucs to sign. Both would be enormous upgrades and will allow the Bucs to concentrate more on the defensive line in the draft.
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:29 am
Tmax
Hargreaves is a good nickel. Therefore, we don’t need Colvin. You’re going to see Licht be extremely aggressive with the defensive line and offensive line this offseason. I’d honestly be surprised if he signs any free agent cornerbacks.
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:32 am
Wausa
I don’t think Patrick Robinson would be a good addition and guys like Joyner are only successful playing for good defensive coordinators like Wade Phillips. We will end up sticking with Conte at the SS position because for some reason Koetter is in love with that man.
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:34 am
OrlandoJoe
vh3 is not good nor will he ever be good. he is mentally weak headcase who celebrates getting burnt when qb overthrows.
raise your standards he has DONE nothing to have any confidence moving forward. You can’t coach SHORT, SLOW OR STUPID!
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:43 am
he would be nice…..but I still think we should give the red carpet treatment to Malcolm butler….then sign a guy like colvin or ej gaines or rashaan Melvin….then draft a big CB like Holton hill….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:52 am
tmax – I have to agree on Hargraves. Was surprised when they took him early in the 1st round being known as short and slow for a corner. Kept saying he was a “Baller”, so short & slow wouldn’t make a difference. hmmm. Obviously was a reach. Actually was hoping the Bucs would select that lunatic corner Apple that was taken by New York just before vh3, so that shows you how much I know.
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:53 am
no no no any defender we get besides grimes never works out hell to me grimes always injured so he really isnt the ish to me but umm nah we do bad with defensive free agents
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:55 am
uckinator
vh3 was a 5th or 6th round talent taken WAY to high to appease the local feel good story crowd that is not concerned with wins. I was high on apple as well but man what a nut job.
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:06 pm
Tmax
Who do you want in the draft this year?
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:13 pm
OrlandoJoe
Nelson at 7… or trade back. No hope for Chubb or Barkley plus Chubb or Barkley might sit out a year versus playing for the glazer circus.
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:14 pm
Alarm bells went off when TMax said he was for Colvin. Bigger than anything, OrlandoJoe hit the nail on the head: “A good nickel, but he will never play on the outside” and as he said, we don’t need another nickel (VHIII, Jude, Elliott & R Smith can all play nickel). With Lord C on this one (sign Kyle Fuller) & hopefully re-sign Brent Grimes (and Robert McClain too). Then draft a quality outside corner someplace in the top 3 rounds & let them all battle it out to see who starts.
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:22 pm
DR
VHIII, Jude, Elliott & R Smith can all play nickel are ALL garbage and if not upgraded the results will not change. Obviously there is no hope for a pass rush next year with the same staff and the cryin clown leading the way…. every position on bucs defense outside of beckwith and kwon should be looked at for upgrades yes that includes lvd and his slow starts to the season. stop showing love and loyalty for garbage players and raise the bar.
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:25 pm
I wanted no part of VH3, I was wanted either Shaq Lawson or Sheldon Rankins. And looking back even though neither one of those guys turned out to be anything special I would still take either one of them over VH3 right now!
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:31 pm
TMax is 100% right in that we (the organization) crowns guys before they do anything. How about making someone earn it then say they are decent never tell them they are great. Just look at last year, VH3 was going to be aggressive and lock people down, Spence was going to get 15 sacks, McCoy was going to setup as a leader, Evans was going to improve his Run after the catch, Doug Martin was going to get back to his “old self”, Sweezy was going to be healthy and nasty. Did even one of those things happen? No this team just needs to shut up, work harder than they have ever worked in their life and produce, stop predicting things and just PRODUCE!!
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:35 pm
Don’t pay players for what they did. Pay them what for they are going to do for you.
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:37 pm
Just here to say: “Well done Tmax” I actually enjoyed your post…. This time. LOL
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:37 pm
VHIII played fine in the slot imo. Not sure where the idea he can’t play nickle comes from. He did fine when playing there. Where he struggled was outside; and he was hurt week 2.
His measurable’s were fine. No one had a grade on him lower than R1 that I saw and most every site had him as the best pure CB (since Ramsey was a hybrid S/CB). He’s bigger than Grimes with a better vert. Basically Chris Harris Jr build.
Him not playing well has been mental more than physical. It’s not a lack of talent or ability.
And honestly our secondary has been so f*cked the last few years due to absolutely no pass rush from our front 4. I don’t want to invest more draft picks into it until we know we’ve fixed the pass rush.
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:38 pm
Lamarcus
exactly right sir!!!! until the glazers get a real football guy in charge and not some has been ex player or coach nothing is going to change.
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:39 pm
Joe(s) and JBF posters, what’s the concensus on: Trumaine Johnson? Is he worth a look-see, can we afford him?
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:40 pm
Lord Cornelius
vh3 was a gamble that has proven not be a solid investment. it’s time to cut bat and let him ride into the sunset and future job as a pop warner coach or crack dealer depending on his ambitions in life.
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:41 pm
^^^That’s the Tmax we’ve come to know and love or loath depending on the ambition in his post.
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:43 pm
ChanEpic
Of course the bucs can afford Johsnon but why in the hell would he come to this crap show franchise when he has a choice… least desirable location in nfl will have to overpay.
worrying about the salary cap for bucs fan is almost as bad as buying insurance to protect against alien invasions. remember the league had to implement a MINIMUM salary cap mostly due to the glazers refusal to field a respectable product.
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:46 pm
Tmax, I’ve heard worse analysis that’s for sure. I would LOVE for them to throw a mint truck at this guy. Johnson/Grimes as 1a/1b and a rejuvenated DL… We might be talking something here.
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:47 pm
for all those worried about the salary cap the steelers have been in cap HELL for a decade and managed 2 super bowls. The cap can be managed the ONLY WORRY buc fan should have is Talent at every position. only 6 to 8 keepers on entire roster. NO Point should salary cap come into play. You get the best players possible and let the attorneys and suits upstairs manipulate the cap. for a team with no meaningful wins in 16 years the cap is hardly a concern. bucs have never WON consistently in their existence so talent trumps cap.
February 22nd, 2018 at 12:47 pm
@tmax
“celebrates getting burnt when qb overthrows”
Don’t forget the finger wag! That’s his go to move for the 10 yard overthrow.
February 22nd, 2018 at 1:01 pm
The jags were down and out for a long time but came back to life this last year.
They got no great coach.
Go bucs. It can be done. The essential franchise Qb is in place…….hold the leads he gets and were right there.
February 22nd, 2018 at 1:10 pm
Orlando,
Joyner isn’t a product of Wade Phillips unless, you think putting a guy in a position to succeed is something W.P. invented. Joyner isn’t (as of now) a great zone player. Last year as a primarily zone player He looked avg. Phillips comes in and plays Joyner where He’s most confident, man, and the results are positive.
That said, if the Bucs signed him, they’d most assuredly put back in a zone which is where He was avg.
The fact is Smith’s defensive philosophy ain’t changing so if the Bucs do sign a FA CB He’s going to be playing zone. So it’s best to sign a player who thrives in the scheme.
February 22nd, 2018 at 1:57 pm
VG3 has followed the career tradjectory of fellow Gator Ahmad Black…although Black was moved to safety. Similar effectiveness, however.
February 22nd, 2018 at 2:16 pm
Outside CBs are the Bucs greatest need in the secondary. VH3 can man the slot, I believe Denzel Ward is the best cover CB in the draft.
February 22nd, 2018 at 2:18 pm
Ahmad Black was a CB at Lakeland High. The Gators moved him to FS, during his freshmen season. He never played CB in college.
February 22nd, 2018 at 2:28 pm
I knew the Bucs were going to draft Hargreaves but when Laremy Tunsil slipped, that is who I would have drafted on that night …
February 22nd, 2018 at 2:50 pm
We need to sign the best outside CB we can get our hands on in FA – in addition to Grimes. Let VH3, Ryan Smith, Hey Jude and Elliot fight for the right to play slot and earn back-up roster spots this year and hopefully one of them will emerge as a starting corner heading into 2019 when Grimes will likely retire.
February 22nd, 2018 at 3:04 pm
Pickgrin
or do it the smart way and rid the team of all those fools you mentioned who can’t play nfl football and try and build a winner.
February 22nd, 2018 at 3:12 pm
bucs are in the basement because they waste so much time on players that simply can not play football.
February 22nd, 2018 at 3:47 pm
A troll says what?
February 22nd, 2018 at 4:19 pm
tmaxcon Says
“bucs need a nickel too they do NOT have a single NFL caliber CB signed for next year…”
That’s simply not true. How many receptions did VHIII allow in the slot when he was moved there?
He played very well after that on the outside too. It could be he just needed a wake up call, it being his second year and all. Just like Mike Evans did.
Ryan Smith ended up doing well on the outside too. Guess what? It was only his second year and his first in the NFL CB spot. I know, he’s not between 5’9″ and 5’11” so he’s not a real Buccaneer CB…
I’m not saying we shouldn’t bring someone in. I think we should. But to say we have nothing is wrong, unless you are the type to ignore developmental players.
February 22nd, 2018 at 5:07 pm
Bonzi
Vh3 was horrible outside and in the slot period. He is not a nfl talent just another failed local feel good story who should have never been drafted…. bucs have not developed any play since whyce developed sapp…
February 22nd, 2018 at 6:53 pm
Evolvingbucfan Says:
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:13 am
Congratulations TMax your first Positive post, sorta. lol
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THIS!!!!
Not only that but is one of the Only threads in the last few years that he hasn’t hijacked about the man that slept with his wife!
February 22nd, 2018 at 6:58 pm
Pickgrin Says:
February 22nd, 2018 at 3:47 pm
A troll says what?
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Pick…..I have Always respected you from the day you came here. Keep up the good work Sir!
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:07 pm
Ooo Hell naw …nobody developed Sapp! He was just one of those guys that steps on the field after the draft and takes over!! NO PLAYER DEVELOPMENT NEEDED!!!
February 22nd, 2018 at 11:52 pm
Hope we re sign McClain, if anything so I can keep the Die Hard references
February 23rd, 2018 at 9:24 am
Aaron Colvin is likely to fall into the second tier of available cornerback free agents behind players like Trumaine Johnson, Morris Claiborne, Bashaud Breeland, E.J. Gaines, Patrick Robinson and Malcolm Butler. PFF said he allowed just 0.76 yards per cover snap, the fifth-best mark among 34 cornerbacks. All we have to do is re-sign Brent Grimes and sign one of many very good FA CB’s and the secondary will be in good shape.