Why Chucky Went To The Raiders (For Now)
January 2nd, 2018
“You’d be licking your chops too if you could get a piece of an NFL team and live in Vegas. How about that Mr. Glazer?”
A lot depressed Bucs fans were hoping Team Glazer would give an arm and a leg to bring Chucky back. Those hopes were dashed when it was learned Friday Bucs coach Dirk Koetter would be retained for the 2018 season.
In a very interesting panel discussion on “Speak For Yourself,” seen on FS1, Colin Cowherd, Tony Gonazalez, Danny Kannel and Charlie Weis talk Chucky. The Cowherd, Kannel and Weis have some interesting stories about Chucky with a Tampa Bay connection, and Kannel had a few disparaging comments about Chucky winning the Super Bowl with the Bucs.
It’s a cool subject. You can watch (and hear) it all below
By the way, none on this panel believe for a moment that Chucky and the Bucs never discussed returning to the pewter pirates. Of course, nothing official has been announced between the Raiders and Chucky, so given Chucky’s history, this is not a slam dunk.
“There have been a lot of changes. Joe Gibbs was gone a few years. He came back and really struggled to adapt. I think it’s a real risky move.” – @ColinCowherd on Raiders bringing back Jon Gruden pic.twitter.com/LdyMHM5ovM
— Speak For Yourself (@SFY) January 1, 2018
January 2nd, 2018 at 5:10 am
Let’s see if he brings a 50 year old QB outta retirement to start over Carr
January 2nd, 2018 at 7:17 am
IF ( big if) Chucky wants control and all this other crap, I do not blame team Glazier for saying no. I am more worried about any changes, or lack there of on this team. So if there are no coaching changes, and the GM is the same, why would we expect any changes in the performance of the team? So if the coaches are back, that says there was a lack of talent, but the GM is back which suggests there was lack of coaching. I just hope this team gets it right in the head, no matter who runs the ship.
January 2nd, 2018 at 7:46 am
Better Oakland than us………been in the booth too long…
January 2nd, 2018 at 7:52 am
Oakland/Las Vegas probably makes more sense for Gruden…he never wanted to leave in the first place. I’m looking forward to watching Mark Davis follow him around like a puppy…wesring the same signature visor and scowl. It will be interesting/entertaining to say the least.
January 2nd, 2018 at 7:56 am
Last I heard, it is not a done deal. Jumping the gun a little aren’t you?
January 2nd, 2018 at 8:15 am
Who the “F” cares??????
So what!?!?!?!
Godness……alota buc fans are living in the past
January 2nd, 2018 at 8:23 am
If they’re really offering him part ownership that’s a no-brainer he can’t refuse that offer. I’d take that even if the team was in the middle of Montana. I’m glad the Bucs didn’t bring him back.
January 2nd, 2018 at 8:28 am
So even though you were just inducted into a “ring of honor”, and you have your home and roots in a community, you can pick up and run to the WC for the money. No problem… the life of a coach or a player. But we are supposed to speak highly of an ownership group that doesn’t seem to know a football from a basketball? Or blindly say “don’t you dare say something badly about the team or ownership?”. Think about it…we are all FA’s.
January 2nd, 2018 at 8:29 am
I love the way people say Chucky asking for full control was a deal breaker. Let me ask you this are you happy with the team and it’s progress since he left. It’s hard to imagine it would be worse. I mean we aren’t just loosing games since 08. We are a national embarrassment and Dirk and Mike aren’t gonna fix that folks sorry.
January 2nd, 2018 at 8:35 am
Dan
are you forgetting it was gruden and his puppet allen who started the playoff drought and were the ones unable to draft or sign good free agent.s Chucky and his puppet are one of the main reasons the bucs have not won a meaningful game in 16 years… living in the past never works out…
January 2nd, 2018 at 9:07 am
All heresay about Chuckie. Oakland could offer him a king’s ransom and allow him to pull a Holmgren/Seattle with having control over the GM seat but does anyone really think that the Davis family is going to give Gruden a share in the team and if so what percentage. Wouldn’t this involve approval of at least 24 of 32 of the NFL owners? Sounds like a long shot to me, at least the part of team ownership…..
January 2nd, 2018 at 9:27 am
JonBuc Says:
January 2nd, 2018 at 7:52 am
Oakland/Las Vegas probably makes more sense for Gruden…he never wanted to leave in the first place. I’m looking forward to watching Mark Davis follow him around like a puppy…wesring the same signature visor and scowl. It will be interesting/entertaining to say the least.
Never wanted to leave? He approved the trade to the Bucs, watch the SB recap dvd. If he missed it so much then why does he still live here? I am assuming you have never been to the Oakland area, it’s mostly awful. He now would have to move there for a few years then Vegas. I am surprised he’s doing that if a few of his kids are still in school. We shall see.
January 2nd, 2018 at 9:46 am
I believe Gruden thought he had the job here and could simply walk into OBP and demand anything. After he was denied he had to save face or go back to ESPN and get mocked for teasing everyone again about coming back. He is using Vegas and might get what he wants, but he knows his legacy is on the line.
January 2nd, 2018 at 9:47 am
Art Shell part II
January 2nd, 2018 at 9:55 am
What I took away from that piece is after the Gruden talk they went on to discuss Pete Carrol and how if you don’t get the players that are cancers out of the locker room it will kill the team overall. Can anyone say Martin, and Baker??? And that is one of the areas that Dirk has got to clean up, he needs to have a firm hand with his players that don’t do what he demands them to do and when he doenst that leads to a undisciplined team that jumps offsides on 4th and 5 with the game on the line.
January 2nd, 2018 at 10:01 am
Ndog
Dont leave cancer93 off that list… his soft approach and flat performances are the root cause of bucs defensive failuers under his tenure as captain abd undisputed FACE of the basement years
January 2nd, 2018 at 10:15 am
@FortMyersDave said: Wouldn’t this involve approval of at least 24 of 32 of the NFL owners?
I wonder about that, I would guess they can give little slices of the team away without too much hassle? I base that on the fact that Steve Spurrier was given part of the Redskins as part of his deal.
January 2nd, 2018 at 10:16 am
I’m glad to be out of the Gruden 2002 fog. I can see things clearly now..the rain has gone…….
January 2nd, 2018 at 10:16 am
Depressed? Nope, this fan is relieved egomaniac isn’t coming back. Already been down that road. Raiders can have him.
January 2nd, 2018 at 10:32 am
A called strike on a check swing! Gruden is to Tampa what Judge Roy Moore was to Alabama. ‘Nuff said. I am pleased with Team Glazer retaining Dirk Koetter; Mike Smith notwithstanding. Now let’s dump Bajakian, Hayes and whatever moron coach is responsible for our kicking teams and then hire Derrick Brooks as a consultant. I think the above would bring the Pirate ship back on course. Finally, rethink that ‘soft camp’ approach(worked well for Del Rio, right?). Dick Vermeill’s training camps were notoriously brutal, so the ideal would be something between Dirk Koetters kumbaya circle jerk and Vermeil’s tough as nails men only camp. Koetter is in the midst of a growth period; I fully expect a sterner, more accountable approach to player development. Just my opinion, but look for a tougher approach to player conditioning next season.
January 2nd, 2018 at 10:32 am
Yes, Gruden coach for part ownership deal would require owners approval hence why the hiring has not been announced.
January 2nd, 2018 at 11:16 am
That unchecked ego of Chucky’s is how he became expendable in Al Davis’ eyes after 3 years of success in Oakland. Both Tampa and Oakland got what they wanted in the trade and both went to the SB. I doubt Chucky would have beaten any other team than Oakland that year and I doubt Davis expected to be facing Chucky in the SB that year either. If Mark Davis is seriously considering Chucky’s sky-high demands he’s crazy. A HC with an ownership stake is a bad idea. They ought to leave him in the booth, but desperate owners do desperate things – see Tampa 2002.
January 2nd, 2018 at 11:16 am
I would not have brought him back with full control. Sorry…. no way.
January 2nd, 2018 at 11:40 am
If anyone remembers, Gruden was available because he and Al Davis were not getting along.
January 2nd, 2018 at 11:55 am
All I’m saying is this. For Koetter’s sake, he better hope and pray that Jon Gruden doesn’t reach the post season while our Bucs are sitting at home after another disappointing season.
January 2nd, 2018 at 12:06 pm
I like Chucky. I like his spirit for the game and his fire on the sidelines. Good luck to him with the..Las Vegas Raiders!
January 2nd, 2018 at 12:46 pm
If Gruden goes to Oakland, we will lose a customer. I have never met Jon Gruden, but we were hired twice to clean his roof. In fact, it has been cleaned in this past year, so he should be good to go until he sells it.
I could live in the Bay Area out west, but not Vegas, and that is where the Raiders are headed.
How anyone could leave Tampa, to live in Vegas is beyond me.
January 2nd, 2018 at 12:49 pm
I wonder what excuses the haters will use when Chucky does a great job with the Raiders and gets another ring.
Won with Del Rio’s team I guess.
As far as picking raiders over bucs, that is a simple as no trust in the Glazer boys. Cannot blame him for that, nor for likely not wanting to expose himself to an idiotic fan base who show him no respect.
January 2nd, 2018 at 1:25 pm
I believe the earlier thread that suggested the Glazers never had any contact with Gruden about returning to coach the Bucs. Thank the football gods.
January 2nd, 2018 at 1:41 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
January 2nd, 2018 at 7:56 am
Last I heard, it is not a done deal. Jumping the gun a little aren’t you?
At Buccaneer Brown 👁:
Like this doughy fella who writes Elf’n porn…I want to be able to claim “I told you all this would happen…but no one listened!” ( fingers crossed I too can declare victory. )
January 2nd, 2018 at 2:06 pm
Still not getting to me, JonBuc. You are like a tiny puppy whining for attention.
January 2nd, 2018 at 2:06 pm
Eric Says
“I wonder what excuses the haters will use when Chucky does a great job with the Raiders and gets another ring.”
I wonder what Chucky will say when we beat them in that superbowl.
January 2nd, 2018 at 2:14 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
January 2nd, 2018 at 2:06 pm
Still not getting to me, JonBuc. You are like a tiny puppy whining for attention.
Oh my, Brown Eye! Nothing whines for attention more than a chester molester type placing a hot/live link to his elf erotica and boring tales of woe turned to triumph. If anyone other than the Grammatica Bros. are into that trash you trot out then I’d be shocked. You’re scary creepy. Stay away from Chucky Cheese’s and EMO conventions per the legal mandate.
January 2nd, 2018 at 3:48 pm
the bucs anthem
Who the “F” cares??????
So what!?!?!?!
Godness……alota buc fans are living in the past
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fast forward 10 yrs and no playoff wins or even a appearance ….would you rather live in the future
hahaha……IF CHUCKY COMES BACK AND BEATS THE BUCS….YALL GONNA EAT CROW
AND THE STADIUM WILL BE A DEBAUCHERY…..oh wait we play the raiders….LOL
January 2nd, 2018 at 3:50 pm
I think chucky thinks Carr is better than jameis and a better chance to win period
sorry truth is hard to swallow I know
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:20 pm
Maybe the Bucs can get Dungy to come out of retirement – then he can build a SB team for Gruden again.
January 2nd, 2018 at 7:29 pm
The ones that didn’t want chucky back you guys are out of your fukkkkiinnng minds
January 2nd, 2018 at 8:34 pm
I told y’all all season long he wasn’t coming to the Bucs.
January 2nd, 2018 at 9:05 pm
WHY he may go to the Raiders?
Answer: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$