Chucky Can’t Keep It Real
January 10th, 2018
“I know nothing, love everyone, love football, and I never wanted to leave the Raiders.”
Yes, Joe watched every minute of the grand and large Raiders news conference yesterday announcing Jon Gruden, Chucky, as the new head coach of Oakland/Vegas.
Chucky took all kinds of questions. Great entertainment.
Chucky had plenty to say. And most of it was an exercise in nonsense, much like Chucky’s analysis of most players during Monday Night Football broadcasts. He loves nearly everyone, when you know darn well he doesn’t.
Anyway, among the BS Chucky was slinging yesterday was a straight-faced pile of pooh about his contract. Asked about the terms of his allegedly historic 10-year, $10 million deal, Gruden answered with a straight face and said. “I don’t really know the terms.”
Jiminy Christmas! Can this guy ever be real when he’s behind a microphone?
There were other gems from Chucky. He didn’t want to talk about his decision to take the job, when he decided on it or when negotiations got real. All he said was that Raiders owner Mark Davis called him a couple of weeks ago. Meanwhile, Davis explained that he’s been chasing Chucky, including visiting him in Tampa, for the past six years.
And then came the biggest gem of all. Chucky explaining that he never wanted to leave the Raiders and his heart has always been in Oakland.
Huh?
As JoeBucsFan.com columinst Ira Kaufman noted, it was Chucky’s agent who told reporters during the 2001 season that his client would not coach the Raiders in 2002. Chucky never fired the agent for spewing garbage, of course, and the publicity helped nudge his trade to Tampa Bay just after that season.
Joe loves Chucky for bringing the ultimate prize to Tampa, but man, the guy is so full of baloney. He simply can’t help himself. It’s going to be a tough media road for him in the modern age of social media and intense and instant scrutiny, all of which is monitored by players.
Joe’s going to enjoy watching Chucky from afar.
January 10th, 2018 at 5:12 am
a harbinger of things to come.
January 10th, 2018 at 5:53 am
For Gruden the truth is too often an impediment. Koetter may avoid the truth but he doesn’t lie. Players need a HC they can trust and believe. I like our future better than that of the Las Vegas Raiders.
January 10th, 2018 at 6:10 am
Raiders could become Cleveland West and Gruden will still be worth a few priceless sound bites! The guy is entertainment for sure but after the Super Bowl he was a coach that averaged 6.5 wins a season (45-51 in final 6 seasons including a 4-12 and 5-11). Great move for Gruden, no state taxes in Nevada so that back loaded contract will pay out for Chuckie but I would not be surprised if the Raiders average 6.5 wins a season as well….. The guy is fun to listen to: a lot like ole Coach McKay and Steve Spurrier…. Good luck Chuckie, thanks for pushing Dungy’s team across the finish line in 2002!
January 10th, 2018 at 6:14 am
what is he supposed to say at an introductory presser with a lame duck team, of course he is going to see that he wants one year w stadium full before they slink away to vegas…. its like licht and koetter throwing all their bs about how successful this year was
January 10th, 2018 at 6:15 am
Dude is a huckster selling snake oil. Most overrated person on the planet.
January 10th, 2018 at 6:27 am
Chucky isn’t “refreshing” enough for Joe; unlike a cold beer, Dirk Koetter, or a mouthful of Mentos.
January 10th, 2018 at 6:34 am
I hope he goes 0-160 with his 10 year deal. But with the Bucs luck they will become New England Patriots west.
January 10th, 2018 at 7:06 am
Well all the Chucky haters got what they wanted,, just like when they did when they ran him out of town to begin with.
It’s been such a joy watching the bucs match the Browns as the worst team in pro football since that happened.
But good thing we got a straight shooting head coach and heck of a nice guy defensive coordinator. Those are the important things.
January 10th, 2018 at 7:07 am
Being two-faced – saying one thing to someone (with conviction) and then doing the opposite – being disingenuous.
These were the personality traits of Jon Gruden that over time, didn’t sit well at all with many of the individuals who played, coached and administrated under him.
Remembrance of these Chucky tendencies is why I was very wary and had very mixed feelings about Gruden coming back as coach of the Bucs when the rumors were so heavy that would be the case.
Jon works as hard and diligently as anyone in the business at his craft and is one hell of a motivator of men. Which is why he is likely to have at least a degree of success initially with the Raiders.
But I also think its highly likely that by year 4-5-6, somewhere in that range, that Mark Davis will seriously regret having guaranteed Gruden a 10 year contract.
Reminiscent of ending to the Meatloaf song…
I couldn’t take it any longer
Lord I was crazed
And when the feeling came upon me
Like a tidal wave
I started swearing to my god and on my mother’s grave
That I would (pay) you to the end of time
I swore, that I would (pay) you to the end of time!
(5 years later coming off a 4-12 season)…
So now I’m praying for the end of time
To hurry up and arrive
‘Cause if I gotta spend another minute with you
I don’t think that I can really survive
I’ll never break my promise or forget my vow
But God only knows what I can do right now
I’m praying for the end of time
It’s all that I can do
Praying for the end of time, so I can end my life with you!!
January 10th, 2018 at 7:24 am
Davis explained that he’s been chasing Chucky. Kind of like the Hooter girls do.
January 10th, 2018 at 7:34 am
Watchin the “Jon Gruden Mic’d Up” video on YouTube yesterday reminded me of a quote I heard from a coach this past Summer.
“Bitchin ain’t coachin”
Gruden’s a hoot to meet in person, but I’m glad he isn’t coming back here for another go-round at running this organization. And when it came down to the total control issue, the Glazers said “thanks, but no thanks”. Despite what Jon may say.
January 10th, 2018 at 7:38 am
Obviously straight shooting to the press is the key. Look at Belichick.
The embodiment of straight shooting and media candor.
SMH
C’mon, man. Belicheat is a totally different animal. If you don’t want to talk, don’t talk. No problem there. But why invest the time to spread piles of BS? When a coach talks to the media, he’s really talking to the fans who care and will still be there when he’s long gone. –Joe
January 10th, 2018 at 7:42 am
Doug Martin is probably done so I guess we’re going to start Chucky bashing now. I really wish a coach could stand up there and say the deals of my contact are none of your damn business check the records and find out yourself so don’t fault him for that.
And he was traded to the bucs. He didn’t want to leave the raiders he wanted a new contract and the tease is the only way he ended up in Tampa. It’s your job to question everything but it sucks that already you judge an ex coach now on another more than this pathetic coach we have in Tampa. So much trust in koetter and he has never given a straight answer about why he had so much faith in Martin but whatever guess we have to swallow your disgusting arse kissing of dirk one more year
January 10th, 2018 at 7:52 am
How about focusing on the Bucs HC. He failed miserably. If Gruden can BS his way into a mansion, so be it. I’m happy for Gruden. I’m not happy about coach Dork.
January 10th, 2018 at 7:56 am
I wonder if Gruden would have stuck with Drug Martin?
January 10th, 2018 at 8:09 am
No one needs to discuss publicly the terms of their employment contract…..that’s personal…..would you discuss your personal business about your spouse to the whole world? Obviously not…..so I understand why he said that to deflect the question and not be so stand-offish with a straight up response.
…..Gruden is though contradicting himself when he said he never wanted to leave the raiders. It was publicly known he wanted out of the Raiders because of Al Davis but maybe he never wanted to leave the team or Oakland—–alota people couldn’t stand AL Davis…..so that’s a two part answer to that one.
I wish Gruden the best…..just not on gameday against the bucs.
January 10th, 2018 at 8:14 am
I guess he’s not a “straight” shooter like Koetter. LMAO
January 10th, 2018 at 8:32 am
So so so SO glad we don’t have Chucky here in Tampa. You all forget he was fired for a reason right? This dude hasn’t coached in HOW MANY years? I can’t wait to see what Raider nation does when he doesn’t get to the playoffs in his first few years. Better yet, what happens when he ruins Carr?
January 10th, 2018 at 8:50 am
Gruden, like most coaches don’t like to make everything public. Of course we have Dirk, who will openly tell you he’s worried about his job, what’s a distraction, how he’s worried about his clock management skills ect…. Most good coaches don’t keep it real to outsiders.
January 10th, 2018 at 9:07 am
So no doubt Chucky’s pants are already on fire……..
January 10th, 2018 at 9:09 am
Now we can watch the bucs fail and chucky fail. 2 years and chucky locker room will be a complete circus
January 10th, 2018 at 9:23 am
Watching it now.
1 Mark Davis looks like a cartoon character.
2 Gruden wants a FULLBACK! Wonder why? I thought FBs were a waste of time these days? (sic)
January 10th, 2018 at 9:31 am
gruden has 100million reasons why he shouldn’t “keep it real”….GO BUCS!!!!
January 10th, 2018 at 9:34 am
lightningbuc Says:
January 10th, 2018 at 6:15 am
Dude is a huckster selling snake oil. Most overrated person on the planet.
He said in the press conference that he guarantee’s nothing except to bust his behind trying to win and that the Raider’s will get what they deserve in regards to their record so not sure what you mean by huckster. All those ex raider legends and some of his ex players came out to a press conference to see a overrated snake oil salesmen? Most be one heck of a con-man to fool everyone. Not fooling you though.
January 10th, 2018 at 9:48 am
All done watching it.
Man…that was a long one. And they act like it is some major huge event the world needs to acknowledge.
Gruden smart move: “I’m not here to make promises…but I want to win.”
Gruden avoided any roster commitments except for Carr.
I can see what’s coming…he even used the term ‘rebuild’.
January 10th, 2018 at 10:16 am
Belichick never answers any questions. Always evasive. And what he does say is often with the purpose of misdirection.
Another known fiber, the best coach in college football Nick Saban. “I have no interest in Alabama job”
But if one wanted to look at folks who have a real problem with the truth, look at the Glazer boys. Which is why Jon is not here now.
What did you expect him to say at his press conference. “i didn’t really want to come here but I got a crap load of money”. Please.
January 10th, 2018 at 10:25 am
Pickgrin
Agree completely as usual. As for Meatloaf…everybody always leaves out the good part…the orgasm by the dashboard lights…actually one of the best orgasms musically in pop music but no match of course for Donna Summer’s “Love to love you baby”. That was about 15 minutes of hearing her orgasm…pretty hot rolling down I-75 around 2AM.
I guess our orgasm under the dashboard lights was our SB.
Always sets up the age old question…is the orgasm worth what comes after it?
I think the SB was worth it but I’m ready to move on from what came after it.
January 10th, 2018 at 10:26 am
BTW as you suggest Pickgrin that includes Chucky. I’m ready to move on. Good luck Raiders.
January 10th, 2018 at 10:27 am
I heard he called Jamarcus yesterday!!!
January 10th, 2018 at 10:32 am
Eric.
Jon and the Raiders are waiting for you. Go join them.
January 10th, 2018 at 10:34 am
I hope the Gruden jock hanging bucs fans get their heart broke.
GET OVER IT GRUDEN LOVERS
One of the things that drives me the most nuts about this team is how quick Buc fans cry about a different draft pick or a different coach. Gruden helped devoid this team of young talent and keep a decent GM from helping build the team with talent.
Have fun Raider fans. For the next 5 years you will go mental trying understand what is happening right before your eyes. It looks good, it sounds good, but something doesn’t make sense.
January 10th, 2018 at 10:52 am
My greatest concern during the prospects of Gruden coming to Tampa was his ability to adjust to all the changes that have occurred since he coached here before. It is simply not the same game and while the question of whether Gruden was a good coach is still in my mind uncertain, he defiantly will have difficulty with all the new rule changes. He has indicated on Monday Night Football many times his disagreement with calls and how glad he was not being a functional part of the game. I agree with joe, he will be fun to watch from afar. Good luck Chuck.
January 10th, 2018 at 10:54 am
Joe you for one should be happy that Gru took the Raiders job. Cause everyone who was around at One Buc while Gru was coaching there knows he would clown you almost daily with some of your nonsense questions. So you’re lucking he didn’t come back and make you look silly again.
January 10th, 2018 at 11:39 am
So basically the Raiders are going to win the Superbowl next year
January 10th, 2018 at 11:56 am
Aaron Rodgers said Chucky promised to draft him. Cadillac was a buc instead, although not a bad pick for at least one season. Still we needed to wait for Freeman to be deafted in order to have a decent QB and we all know how that ended… This is just an example of how Chucky can be two-faced. And Aaron Rodgers well, we know about how that worked out for him and the Packers. Throughout all this years we’ve had a few 1000 yards rushers, but no playoffs, and the Packers? I like Chucky’s Qb show tho.
January 10th, 2018 at 12:42 pm
I like Chucky and hope he does well with the Raiders. He’s rounding up his old crew.
January 10th, 2018 at 12:50 pm
Another brilliant move by the Bucs . The last year Gruden was with the Bucs the team was 9-7 . They fire him . Koetter was 4-12 and they keep him. Is there a dumber front office in pro sports ?
January 10th, 2018 at 12:59 pm
LOL! I remember 2 years ago when Lovie was fired after 2 years that the worst thing the Bucs could do is become the Cleveland Browns and fire their coaches every two years. I said at the time firing Lovie was truly a dumb thing to do since it meant taking Dirk, who was doing a great job as OC and working one on one with Jameis, taking him away from what he did best to be the HC for no real reason. I also said all the dopes applauding that move will in 2 years be calling for Dirks head. How amazingly right I was.
January 10th, 2018 at 1:05 pm
To the point of not knowing the terms of Gruden’s contract, unless he is an attorney, it is more likely than not that he does not know the terms of his contract well enough to discuss them publicly.
January 10th, 2018 at 2:11 pm
No more coaching repeats including Mike Shula and ESPECIALLY CHUCKLES GRUDEN! So Chucky is CAPT. BS. Some surprise there. Good riddance and thanks Raider Nation!
January 10th, 2018 at 2:57 pm
Here comes the Chucky hate from the same Bucs fans that were begging for him.
Just get over it
January 10th, 2018 at 4:23 pm
Chucky will do well in Oakland and the bucs wont
January 10th, 2018 at 4:39 pm
In football, where results mean everything, demeanor is interpreted after the fact based on a coach’s success.
Being jerk\liar\bore is only a character flaw if you lose. if you win, being a jerk \liar\bore is just your “management style”
Koetter is almost 180 degrees from Gruden on the BS issue, but he’s a salty guy whose abrasive direct style praised when the offense broke records in 2015 and won 9 games in 2016. In 2017 he’s snarky and bitter it’s evidence he’s in over his head. If lovie coached us to 11-5 he’d have been described as a rock and a stabilizing force. Instead he lost endlessly and is remembered as a loser with the personality and adaptability of a rock. When Jon was winning he was a master motivator who knew how to push players’ buttons, when he wasn’t winning enough he was a disingenuous guy who would say anything to get what he needed to out of a player.
same guy, different results, different judgments of the same approach.
January 10th, 2018 at 4:46 pm
on a side note – and this is probably just decades as a bucs fan taking its toll – this has the feel of a move that would have failed disastrously had the bucs done it but we fans will be subjected to JG’s wild success now that someone else did it. It would be a fittingly tragic next chapter in the Bucs’ history of sending people on paths to championship glory by moving on from them
January 10th, 2018 at 7:12 pm
I certainly appreciate the Lombardi trophy and fully understand it never would have happened with Dungy or without Gruden. I just don’t trust that either one could have done it without the other. Gruden couldn’t maintain a team, forget about build one. He may be a much better HC now, but I can’t respect a man who’s word means nothing. Build with Koetter. Trust is too important to be discounted. Both men have things to prove. I’m betting on the one who can be trusted. No hate here. Just want what’s best for the Bucs. Gruden has already proven it’ not him.
January 10th, 2018 at 7:31 pm
@ joe
he DIDNT WANT TO LEAVE AT THE TIME…..
it was a trade ….what do you want the man to say …..” I wanted to leave for tampa but now I’m back….your around P.R. people
we ALL know someone advised him ok say you had your son here…etc etc….maintain a good appearance
admit you just don’t like the guy and your entitled
but after 10 years even with one more ring….he still will love tampa better because he lives here and his dad coached here
January 10th, 2018 at 7:36 pm
my solace was watching him flash that ring at the mariota game…..
uggh I hope jameis is in that position next year
BUT he will probably be on his 3rd coach
EVERBODY IS ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK NEXT SEASON…YES HIM TOO….
if he doesn’t get it done
January 10th, 2018 at 9:01 pm
Not there yet Says the truth is he was either lying to them or lying to us when he said he loves it here or there or is it there or here? You see he says so much crap that you never know what is real or not. Yesterday while watching that I felt like he was telling the truth which means he lied to our faces just 5 weeks ago.
January 10th, 2018 at 9:52 pm
u morons that do not lie chucky are the biggest dunb assess of all . wow and u like 5/11 just suck year after year wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
January 10th, 2018 at 9:55 pm
chucky doesnt owe u morons anything u get what u deserve . i am betting most of u paint your faces at the games