Playoff-less GMC
December 13th, 2017
Victim of organization
You know what is sad? The Bucs have one of the greatest defensive tackles of his era and his talents largely have been p!ssed away.
Right about the same time the NFL will hosts its annual combine in Indianapolis, GMC will turn 30. A graybeard by NFL standards, a senior citizen. And the poor guy has never been on a playoff team. He’s only been on two winning teams in his career.
It doesn’t matter how; it doesn’t matter why.
The Bucs have never drafted him a quality defensive end to help him dominate, and the one the Bucs did have, they let walk away for no good reason.
Veteran Tampa Bay sports columnist Gary Shelton writes on GarySheltonSports.com that this is a horrible stain on the organization.
It is beginning to look a lot like Gerald McCoy will go his entire career without playing in a postseason game (other than a Pro Bowl). McCoy is 29, an age when a lot of defensive tackles start to lose their burst, and he’s re-injured. You’d have to be playing Lotto to expect the Bucs to make the playoffs in the next couple of years. A shame. McCoy’s’ a good guy and I think fans judge him harshly. How many defensive tackles are lifting their teams to glory?
Simply put, in the eight years the Bucs have had GMC, the team didn’t really want to have a quality defensive end. Oh, sure, the lip service is they tried and that’s correct. Look at all the stiffs they have drafted and signed, and every single one of them was a swing and a miss.
But if the Bucs really wanted a quality defensive end — really wanted a difference-maker at defensive end — they would have acquired one either by the draft or by free agency or a trade.
(The Bucs really wanted a quarterback and got one; really wanted a wide receiver and got one; really wanted a tight end and got one.)
It’s criminal how this organization, through a series of short-sighted stunts, has all but thrown away the talents of GMC.
December 13th, 2017 at 9:13 am
Gerald has been EXTREMELY well-compensated for his “misery.”
December 13th, 2017 at 9:14 am
Its the organizations fault every player they bring in gets the Will to win and desire to be great sucked out of them by the soft, fragile career loser with no heart. If cancer93 had the same pasdion for football that he has for his dolls and losing bucs would have won more games and you nuthuggers would not have to make excusses for cancer93 coming out flat more than not…
December 13th, 2017 at 9:16 am
Whats criminal is all the flat uninspired performance the POS captain blowout has led and recieved free pass after free pass…
December 13th, 2017 at 9:18 am
Baloney…Overrated and never made players around him better like most high end tackles down through NFL history. Worst of it is, his trade value is probably down to near nothing…Time to move on, years and years away from a division title…
December 13th, 2017 at 9:18 am
Hopefully the soft career loser has played his last snap in tampa… its the only hope thst the young players have
December 13th, 2017 at 9:21 am
MILtiple missed players to help him. Chandler for an 2nd?? CAlais in FA?? MIChael Bennett ?? WINT even factor in the bust draft picks. NEVEr try to comment from a iPhone
December 13th, 2017 at 9:24 am
The Bucs have one of the greatest defensive tackles of his era and his talents largely have been p!ssed away.
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Joe-
You misspelled Will Linebacker!
December 13th, 2017 at 9:25 am
@Tom- Definitely! But how sad is it that this franchise has made no strides since he got here. It would be like not bringing in top-tier WRs for Winston year after year. What results would you expect?!
GMC’s been a good player on a failing franchise. At the start of the year, we all thought the drought would end. Sadly, it looks like somebody hit the “rewind” button.
If GMC had any sense, he’d sign with a contender and get the heck out of here.
December 13th, 2017 at 9:26 am
Gmc is NOTHING more thsn a fragile crybaby that is the UNDISPUTED Face of the Basement Years and a complete embarrassment to the male species…
December 13th, 2017 at 9:27 am
Joe, the Bucs have drafted 5 DE since McCoy was drafted: one in the first round, two in the second, one in the 4th, and one in the 5th. You don’t call that trying? In FA, we’ve brought in two big names in Johnson and Ayers. That’s not trying? They have FAILED – yes; but you are wrong to say they haven’t tried.
BTW, they need to “try” again this offseason. They need to draft 2 DE before the 4th round and pick up another big name in FA. This has been a bad defense for too long, but a pass rush cures a lot of ineptitude.
December 13th, 2017 at 9:27 am
This is why I think we should trade him. Give him a chance to get a ring and get us some picks.
December 13th, 2017 at 9:28 am
tmaxcon, it must really suck being you.
December 13th, 2017 at 9:28 am
Until he and Martin are gone. Then maxipad will decide it is someone else.
December 13th, 2017 at 9:31 am
@tmax- Man, you know that it’s this franchise, right?! I mean top to bottom we are awful. I blame the Glazers. It starts there. There’s no vision for this franchise, no direction. Nobody is held accountable and we are simply a check-cashing store for has-been free-agent mercenaries!
December 13th, 2017 at 9:33 am
Bonzi
It must really suck falling for career losers… NO ONE is giving up a pick for a quitter who is 30 with a injury history and who us currently injuried. Especially a player thats makes others around him worse. Once again the nuthuggers are upset thst i am right AGAIN that bucs would never win a game with this clown a team captain…
December 13th, 2017 at 9:34 am
I’m rapidly losing faith. Not in Licht. Not, even, in Koetter. But in the Glazers. They’re the only comm9n denominator in all of this mess. Malcolm knew what he was doing as an owner, and the results showed up in the front office and on the field. But his sons seem to be a different matter. Ever since Malcolm had to let go of his organizational duties when he became too ill, things haven’t been remotely the same with his sons in charge of operations. I get that, by employing themselves, they’re saving themselves millions of dollars each year. As an entrepreneur, I totally see the bottom-line advantage, and they have every right to employ themselves. But, I think the circumstantial evidence that they’re just not cut out for making sound executive-level decisions reliably is overwhelming, at this point. I think it’s fair to say that, if they REALLY care about putting the team and fans first (and I believe they do), then they’re just going to have to let go and hire people with solid football credentials at the executive level.
December 13th, 2017 at 9:34 am
Fact:
Every DE brought in or drafted regressed next to lollipop candy crush
Fact
On other squads playing next to inferior tackles all said DEs have made the playoffs if not Super Bowl
Fact
Gmc is a beeeeeeeeeeachhhhhh with nooooooooo heart and a brainless degenerate as his biggest fan.
Trade his ass to LA so he can back-up Aaron Donald and pursue his acting career.
“I don’t like getting hit, I want to be an actor” – Fake Batman
You ain’t never heard no chit like that come out of LVDs mouth or Winston or Evans.
Gmc and Conte should politely resign and then skip across the street to st joes womens for their pre-op discussions
December 13th, 2017 at 9:35 am
And for the record GMC “lovers”, we are NOT one DT away from being good. This sentiment that he’s supposed to elevate a turd is laughable.
December 13th, 2017 at 9:35 am
Bucsfanman
Gmc is equally responsible with his fragile arse body and soft ways. He is the leader of the losing culture… glazers fund it and the crying clown leads it
December 13th, 2017 at 9:36 am
When is the last time an NFL owner said I’m gonna get you to the playoffs lol nonsense
December 13th, 2017 at 9:40 am
DB55- Nobody trails a play better than Chris Conte! Nobody!
Not for nothing, but that “eating ‘W’s” thing was far more disturbing to me than not wanting to get hit. Who the h&ll WANTS to be hit?!
December 13th, 2017 at 9:42 am
Get rid the crying clown, the unreliable gerbil and the walking penalty machine and watch the young kids flourish without the bad character teammates corrupting them. pos holdovers gmc, martin and dotson must go
December 13th, 2017 at 9:43 am
I disagree T. The losing culture comes from the top of this pathetic organization. There’s no accountability. Maybe if someone up top lit a fire under these coaches and players and raised expectations, we’d be having a different conversation about GMC.
December 13th, 2017 at 9:44 am
tmax- Dotson was our best lineman this year, ironically.
December 13th, 2017 at 9:50 am
Eating Ws will be a thing if it’s not already. You just not cool like that.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
All the cool kids are doing it.
🖖🏽👅
December 13th, 2017 at 9:52 am
I take that back you pretty cool but not jaboowins cool 😎
December 13th, 2017 at 9:59 am
I enjoy ‘eating W’s’ with my wife in the privacy of home, not in front of a bunch of dudes!!! 🙂
December 13th, 2017 at 10:02 am
DB55- Nobody trails a play better than Chris Conte! Nobody!
Let’s not forget Barrett Rudd lol
People always talk about GMC get off and how many sacks and pressures he has. Are you saying he hasn’t been a part of top defense because he’s never had teammates to match his caliber play? Once again he’s a part of one of the worst defenses in buc history and it’s not his fault were gonna blame everyone else. GMC is the only tackle in the NFL that gets double teamed? go ahead say it lol.
There is not one fan of this team that right now wouldn’t swap out GMC for Aaron Donald, someone who is just as dominating in a 3-4 as he was in a 4-3. GMC is coddled by this franchise and I don’t want my so called best defensive player on the sidelines crying if he’s walking around instead of on a stretcher
December 13th, 2017 at 10:02 am
He has made millions. But bad drafting has made him play
For crappy teams his whole career
December 13th, 2017 at 10:03 am
To each his own. Some people make great careers out of doing it in pubic
December 13th, 2017 at 10:06 am
You have issues DB! Touche!
December 13th, 2017 at 10:06 am
Man come on. We know gmc doesn’t “accommodate” to nobody. No rookie or no star de. And wonder GM’s don’t get no help for him.
I think itsGmc not wanting no one here. Probowls on the mind. Other guys would just take his sacks like Ayers.
It’s not human not to go after a another stud after 8 years. No way. Not buying the B’s anymore.
Then why not other players want to come here?? Gmc should be a dream to play next to and take a pay cut to come to Tampa. No???
December 13th, 2017 at 10:17 am
This is GMCs third bicep injury, he has had injury problems throughout his career, he has shown that the fans lack of love and respect for him gets at him personally and he has made more money than he can spend in a lifetime. I wouldn’t be surprised if GMC doesn’t hang it up after this year.
December 13th, 2017 at 10:17 am
While I respect Gary Shelton’s opinion and right to have one – is he watching the actual NFL? Yes, the Bucs have a putrid history over the past ten years – but the NFL is about to set a record for most worst to first division winners in NFL HISTORY?
This archaic, old-timey notion that the Bucs are years away just isn’t on par with what we see in the NFL today. Scheme matters. Coaches REALLY matter. Exhibit A is the Rams. Add McVay and Wade Phillips and a handful of very doable offseason moves and the Rams have gone from doormats to playoff caliber in a single offseason.
There are numerous examples of this across the NFL with teams that appeared to be in much worse shape than the Bucs are in now.
As for GMC. I love him and think he’s an excellent player. But the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Paying GMC over 10 million dollars a year at age 30 and beyond just isn’t prudent. going forward. The Bucs should allow him to find another place to excel and use his salary for 2-3 impact players across the line (both lines really).
More than ANYTHING – that’s what the Bucs need this offseason – an injection of talent and competition across both lines and at the CB position. Stop with the BS of dreaming of spending a high first rounder on a RB. The Bucs should add, at minimum, 8 potential starter and rotational players across both lines and at CB this offseason via the draft and free agency. If they do that AND hire a coach known for his talented schemes who comes along with a like-wise talented Defensive coordinator… look out.
December 13th, 2017 at 10:20 am
And what’s sad is I watch some other teams play for the first team in awhile
I watched the saints/falcons and rams/eagles
Cox,Donald, Cam Jordan and RANKINS all bust threw their double teams as if they were never doubled. Hmmmmmmmm sometimes creating triple team w a chip block and still go to the back field. Gmc ain’t no probowler this year I’m sorry
December 13th, 2017 at 10:24 am
What is tragic is the Joe a a legion of fans have been duped by this fraud. The only thing he care about is getting his game check and collecting comic books. In that order!
December 13th, 2017 at 10:25 am
joe
i will never understand your chest pounding in multiple articles over the years, stating that your best players or stars step up when it matters most during big games / situations. Yet you give free pass after free pass to cancer93 when he captains a flat uninspired performance or gets manhandled against dallas etc etc etc… Old school baseball guy that you are, I will assume you believe, like I do that the C actually means something yet you give free pass after free pass each and every flat uninspired blowout your superhero leads. Dude, your hypocrisy is rising to levels that only TV Evangelists usually achieve. And please explain to me why so many free agents come here and magically forget how to play yet most leave and find jobs and regain some respect. Same with draft picks look at the enthusiasm Evans and Winston used to play with. completely sucked out of them by your superhero captain blowout. Please enlighten me o wise one. He is a good player nothing more and far far from great.
December 13th, 2017 at 10:28 am
We wasted him and I feel bad. But those many many millions should dull the pain a bit. It’d work for me.
December 13th, 2017 at 10:33 am
Come on guys, You should be use to dismal performances from your Bucs. At least if we hire Chucky, the sideline antics will not be boring and our DC will not be sittin in the pressbox eatin Nachos during the game!
December 13th, 2017 at 10:36 am
@ Tmaxcon
When you have to post the same thing over and over on the same article to make your point…..you are engaging in “diarrhea diatribe”
As for the DE situation……2018 Draft….6 DEs & a CB…..and if we get an extra pick…..go for another CB.
At least that will show we are trying to address the pass rush.
December 13th, 2017 at 10:39 am
Tampabaybucfan
you are just butt hurt because once again I am right just like i was with the washed up vjax, unreliable gerbil, pathetic midget clown vh3, glennon, gmc, mcdonald etc etc etc… i see things clearly sir while your optimistic blindness hides the truth. i have stated for years this team would never win a meaningful game with gmc on roster and sadly i was right again.
December 13th, 2017 at 10:40 am
Tampabaybucfan
it must be hard for you to accept that in the end I am always right. All these soft weak players you say i should give a chance always fail.
December 13th, 2017 at 10:42 am
JW made a tackle on the guy who recovered OJ fumble. Gmc can learn from JW how to tackle properly. And why does JW look like a better tackler than our entire defense outside Lvd?
December 13th, 2017 at 10:45 am
He has never elevated the play of any D-lineman or defensive player around him at any point in his career. Ever.
If he is so good then how do you reconcile that? How do you make sense of that? If he is “freeing up” guys with 1 on 1s all the time then how come those guys are producing better numbers on teams without Gerald McCoy? Clayborn/Ghost Johnson/etc have all done better without him. Can’t blame the scheme considering he’s been in a bunch of them across various coaching staffs.
He has also never lead a good defense in general. We’ve had decent talent around him at times – to where you’d think at worst we should be a top 10-15 type defense; but it hasn’t mattered.
But the bottom line is I personally hate the vibe of his attitude for him being a leader. He’s too soft and too complacent.
Complacent is actually the perfect word – that is how I’d describe his feelings each season regardless of our W:L record. I want to see that our leaders are infuriated by losing. I want it to appear unacceptable to them. I’ve never seen that out of him ever.
December 13th, 2017 at 10:51 am
Bucsfanman
dotson has played better this year but that means absolutely nothing considering how crappy the line is. he was the worst football player on the field for both teams each week he played last year. he is a holdover and accepts losing equally as well as the gerbil and captain blowout cancer93… get rid of the holdovers their love of losing offsets any tiny bit of talent remaining.
December 13th, 2017 at 11:10 am
“the Rams have gone from doormats to playoff caliber in a single offseason.”
Um – not exactly. Rams have been suffering through mediocrity and drafting high for years. They’ve been building that defense up for quite awhile now. Add a legit QB and a few good weapons like they’ve done the last 2 years and – boom – “instant success”…
December 13th, 2017 at 11:28 am
tmax- I’m guessing that you’re going to get your wish in more ways than one:
1. Martin is gone after this year, for sure.
2. Dotson probably as well.
3. GMC may be the only hold-over if they can’t negotiate a better deal or trade.
LC- It’s kind of hard to argue that point. It’s why I find myself softening my stance on him. You can argue both sides: he never had talent around him/ he never made anyone better beside him.
I really do think his era is coming to a close as a Buc.
December 13th, 2017 at 11:30 am
@Pickgrin- Good point. They’ve been drafting top picks for shoot, almost as long as the Bucs. I can’t remember when they were last relevant.
It takes the right GM/coaching staff with a handful of talented players to turn it around. It’s not here right now.
December 13th, 2017 at 11:45 am
I hope they Trade McCoy to a contender. Any team in the league would love to have him.
This POS team, and many POS fans dont deserve him
December 13th, 2017 at 11:49 am
Pick
Correct me if I’m wrong but outside of Watkins and kupp it’s the same roster as last yr no?
December 13th, 2017 at 11:50 am
Capt. Tim- Good DTs don’t grow on trees. I think more fans will miss him when he’s gone than they would have you believe.
Agreed, crappy franchise!
December 13th, 2017 at 11:53 am
Bucsfanman
there will be no trade unless Capt Tim becomes a NFL GM in the next 6 months. No NFL gm is going to give up anything for a broken down, often injured, currently injured 30 year old locker room cancer that has NEVER won a single meaningful game in his entire career. maybe Mr. 0-16 Marinelli can con Jerry into a 7th round but no one is giving up anything for that washed up fraud.
December 13th, 2017 at 12:04 pm
Mc Fraud retire PLEASE ask we can finally get to the playoffs!!
December 13th, 2017 at 12:09 pm
BB- We are NOT a DT away from being a playoff contender.
December 13th, 2017 at 12:21 pm
You guys are blaming McCoy for us not getting to the playoffs since he’s been here? We have the stupidest fan base in the league I swear.
December 13th, 2017 at 12:22 pm
Besides Robert Ayers who does Gerald McCoy have on this line to help him?????? Outside of Gerald McCoy and Robert Ayers, our D-Line is trash.
December 13th, 2017 at 12:38 pm
DB,
I believe the Rams also solidified they’re o-line with 2 FA signings.
But overall the Rams have been acquiring talent at the right places. The Coaching staff is definitely a huge part of the story but it’s not the only part.
The Jags have a similar situation, talent accumulating, on both sides of the ball.
No QB but that’s it. The two teams have been rolling along with draft picks and FA
signings and they both appear solid.
Odd is two other teams that are just as if not more similar. The Bucs and Titans.
If you read the articles from both teams leaving out players and coaches names
I don’t believe you could distinguish between the two. Same issues from both teams.
December 13th, 2017 at 12:39 pm
You guys blame McCoy for this teams failure? Stupidest logic I’ve ever heard. One player is not responsible for the Bucs failures that have coincidentally happened since he’s been here. Why don’t you blame the cheap Glazers and GMs for not getting McCoy help. Some of you always compare him to Sapp but these Bucs teams are different than those back in the day, Sapp is different from McCoy and Sapp always had help on every D-Line he was with (Brad Culpepper, Booger Mcfarland, and Simeon Rice etc).
December 13th, 2017 at 12:56 pm
mp813
cancer93 sucks the will to win and desire to be great out of every player that walks through the doors at one buc circus tent…. he is a good player and a cancerous teammate who would rather lose than win. total POS player. get rid of the cancer and watch these young guys flourish…. and remember boys and girls NO ONE and I mean NO ONE quits on a coach like cancer93 does.
December 13th, 2017 at 1:06 pm
It really is a shame. Blue chip players like this are suppose to be players that you can build around. Reminds me of Joe Thomas. Both of these players have what I would consider to be completely wasted careers.
December 13th, 2017 at 1:24 pm
These are GMC exact words, when the Bucs were thinking of drafting Aaron Donald.
Posted by Michael David Smith on May 8, 2014, 4:51 PM EST
NBC Sports
Buccaneers defensive tackle Gerald McCoy has seen the mock drafts pegging former Pittsburgh defensive tackle Aaron Donald to Tampa Bay with the seventh pick in the draft. And McCoy has one thing to say about it: I’m not changing positions for a rookie.
McCoy currently plays the three-technique tackle position, and there has been some talk that if the Bucs draft Donald, they’ll move McCoy to the nose tackle and let Donald play three-technique. McCoy wrote on Twitter today that he thinks that’s ridiculous, and that there’s no way he’ll move to nose tackle no matter who the Buccaneers draft.
Some fans responded to McCoy by saying that’s a selfish attitude, but McCoy said it’s simply a matter of knowing what he does best. McCoy says he can best help his team as a three-technique tackle, and that if the Bucs draft another three-technique tackle, they’d be better off giving that rookie the starting job and having McCoy as the second-string three-technique.
Some fans responded to McCoy by saying that’s a selfish attitude, but McCoy said it’s simply a matter of knowing what he does best. McCoy says he can best help his team as a three-technique tackle, and that if the Bucs draft another three-technique tackle, they’d be better off giving that rookie the starting job and having McCoy as the second-string three-technique.
“Knowing your strengths and weaknesses are what makes you a professional,” McCoy wrote.
McCoy is an excellent player, and it seems strange that the Bucs would be considering moving him. Then again, McCoy is heading into the final season of his rookie contract, and it’s possible that the Bucs are already planning to let him walk next year. If that’s the case, it would make a lot of sense to draft his replacement, whether McCoy is ready for it or not.
The Bucs passed on Aaron Donald and extended GMC less than 6 months later
The Bucs should have drafted Aaron Donald and traded GMC
They would got a better player, draft picks, and saved money
December 13th, 2017 at 1:31 pm
Sorry the duplicate paragraph. There’s no way I would have given GMC a $98,000,000 contract. When I could have Aaron Donald for 4 years $15,000,000. And some draft picks for him.
December 13th, 2017 at 1:41 pm
Lakeland- See that’s the problem though. A GM worth his salt would’ve done just that, drafted Donald and let the cards fall where they may with GMC. GMC doesn’t sign the checks, Licht does. Had they drafted Donald we would have seen what type of “professional” GMC is/was.
I would’ve told GMC to pound sand if he didn’t like it because I’m the GM and I am GOING TO DO WHAT’S BEST FOR THE T-E-A-M!
It’s not GMC’s fault our GM has no cojones or vision.
December 13th, 2017 at 2:05 pm
I agree, we should trade McCoy to a contender, get some picks, and give the big guy a shot at a title, of some sorts.
It looks like we are years away from contention.
December 13th, 2017 at 2:10 pm
Best defense in the history of this Buccaneer Franchise history (1999) and this is the D line
72 Chidi Ahanotu DE
77 Brad Culpepper DT
97 Tyoka Jackson DE
78 Marcus Jones DE
92 Anthony McFarland DT
99 Warren Sapp DT
94 Steve White DE
Don’t think Warren Sapp was complaining about not having an all star supporting cast. What all these guys had is drive!
December 13th, 2017 at 3:02 pm
tmax how many times a week do you think you post the same exact nonsense about GMC?
This one single article you’ve posted 15 times, so I’m guessing over the course of a week that averages about 180 comments about GMC.
You are obsessed. Get a grip. And here’s a fact for you and DB:
Not a single DE who has played next to GMC has gone to another team and played better, except Adrian Clayborn for 1 single year (this year).
Bennet’s stats are exactly the same. Everyone else has done even less since they left. And the claim that guys we brought it suddenly weren’t good any more once they got here is also false. We brought in Michael Johnson and Robert Ayers, who each only had 1 good season ever in their career before coming here, not sustained success.
#facts
December 13th, 2017 at 4:27 pm
How about the move to put Swaggy, Baker-Iverson next to him this offseason… good call on that one