Patrick Murray Talks Koetter Messaging
December 6th, 2017
So what’s been the chatter from the head coach inside the bowels of One Buc Palace and in the locker room the past couple of weeks?
Joe isn’t using a spy or scribbling down messages meant for the team only. Kicker Patrick Murray was talking about it on the Buccaneers Radio Network.
On Monday, Murray said formerly winning head coach Dirk Koetter has been talking to the team about passion leading up to the last two games. And Joe suspects it had nothing to do with Rachel Watson.
The talks moved Murray, he said, and it seemed he thought Koetter made a mark.
Why did Koetter choose “passion?” Joe has no clue. Feel free to speculate.
Did the Bucs play passionately in Atlanta and in Green Bay. The haters will say they didn’t, others would say they battled to the end.
December 6th, 2017 at 11:17 am
Murray looks like a keeper.
December 6th, 2017 at 11:21 am
They battled, I agree.
But they were handicapped by a piss-poor offensive and defensive schemes.
Improve both of those (with different coaches) and we have a way netter shot at winning in the future.
December 6th, 2017 at 11:22 am
Passion message direct hit to Gmc. My best bet
December 6th, 2017 at 11:25 am
they battled….4 games to run the table
December 6th, 2017 at 11:29 am
Love the Rachel Watson photo !!
December 6th, 2017 at 11:31 am
Koetter seems too complacent lately…Like to see him lose his mind after one of these losses and show his own passion…If the coach don’t care why should the millionaire players…
December 6th, 2017 at 11:34 am
I’m with Erik.
Mike AND Dirk need to go.
Look at what happened with the LA Rams after they hired 2 competant coaches. 1 year removed from being the laughing stock of the NFC West, they are competing for a division title. Sean McVay has done an amazing job with Jared Goff and Wade Phillips resume speaks for itself. Winston needs a coach like McVay to take him to that next level.
December 6th, 2017 at 11:35 am
the Rams have been drafting high for years and have a strong roster
December 6th, 2017 at 11:42 am
Ah, the gratuitous GMC shot by Lamarcus! Well played sir!
Of course, you could point to any of the 10 others on the field at any given time, but that would take effort!
Overall this team is soft, offensively and defensively. Perhaps THAT is what he’s referring to?!
Where’s the fire?
December 6th, 2017 at 11:44 am
Passion or not Dirk was hired solely for the progression of his QB. There have been no positive results in two years with our QB.
It was a bad reason to hire him as a head coach to begin with.
December 6th, 2017 at 11:44 am
Passion fruit ice cream and sherbet today at obp? I bet gmc is buying.
So gmc almost got a sack on Sunday but Hundley stepped up in the pocket and Clarke got the sack instead. Gmc stood up, shook his head and walked away towards the sideline. Meanwhile kwon and everyone else congratulated Clarke.
#Passion #teamwork #ineedmysacksformyprobowlwhichisallicareabout
December 6th, 2017 at 11:48 am
DB55- Your hashtags are showing!!!
December 6th, 2017 at 11:52 am
Sure Our Bucs battle every Sunday. But so does ISIS..and they are losing.
December 6th, 2017 at 11:59 am
This team seems incapable of passionate play for four total quarters a game. I want to see undaunted passion like Roy Moore at a high school cheerleader car wash.
December 6th, 2017 at 12:01 pm
Lamarcus is just playing follow the leader. Started by maxipad. So one of his 2 followers will do it in just about every thread.
December 6th, 2017 at 12:13 pm
Why is passion even an issue? That should be a given. You would think the hundreds of thousands of dollars would give them all the passion they need. Koetter should have them motivated and prepared to compete.
December 6th, 2017 at 12:17 pm
Nothing Joe has heard of previously. Sorry. Many safeguards in place over here.–Joe
December 6th, 2017 at 12:19 pm
“Why did Koetter choose “passion?”
Because too many of the players have lacked passion this year. Passion leads to extraordinary effort. Some players have neglected to give 100% of their attention and maximum effort on each and every play this year.
Mental mistakes and lack of focus – not lack of talent – has primarily been the reason for this year’s disappointing results.
Yes we need a major talent upgrade at all but 1 starting position on the Dline and the Oline needs some shoring up as well – beyond that, a solid CB and a dynamic RB has this team pretty well set to compete with any team – IF the worst offending players can get this focus and “passion” problem dealt with.
Joe I agree with you that there was solid effort the last 2 games – unfortunately, the team as a whole is still out of sync – reeling from all the early losses and still struggling to find their identity.
December 6th, 2017 at 12:21 pm
#KeepKoetter #KeepLicht
December 6th, 2017 at 12:29 pm
Solid FG kicker. The problem is his Kickoffs aren’t deep enough. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s on the low end of touchback % for kickers.
December 6th, 2017 at 12:31 pm
I don’t relate to the modern football player….they have elite talent…but seem to lack the passion that made this game so GREAT
December 6th, 2017 at 12:35 pm
#FireKoetter #FireLicht #MuteBuccaneerBonzai #TradeJaboo #DraftAnotherKicker #WaitTilNextYear
December 6th, 2017 at 12:44 pm
Yes we need a major talent upgrade at all but 1 starting position on the Dline
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You talking about McDonald, Ayers, Gholston or Spence? Cuz I agree everyone else needs to go. Well we can keep baker and siglia and Clarke I guess but everyone else must go right now.
December 6th, 2017 at 12:51 pm
Well played DB. Too bad your working premise is so flawed.
December 6th, 2017 at 1:02 pm
Yeah there are shortcoming in the roster…it is disturbing that when the whistle blows ,some of the players seem to accept it …and it shows…
December 6th, 2017 at 1:05 pm
Season is over is right…….Why are we even worried about passion? Who gives a flying crap. Our abundance of passion has gotten us to the cellar and unable to put up a fight with any decent team in the league. What do they deserve a pat on the back now because they lose with passion? What are they tee-ballers now?
A few posts later Pickegrin is agreeing with Joe about effort? Really, they give great effort? That sounds like a slap in the face to me……Effort isn’t to be expected anymore? Shall we cheer effort at Ray Jay now?
The fact that fans are giving a rats azz about passion and effort is a joke. The good teams in this league will match our passion and effort every freaking day. Then they will beat us with confidence and a winning attitude. Passion and effort won’t win you squat in the NFL.
All the passion and effort this team has is suspect at best too…..I saw none of that when the season was on the line at home vs Car then the following week at NO.
December 6th, 2017 at 1:18 pm
Maybe Dirk needs to work on confidence……..
Leaving Ryan Smith on an island to get destroyed by Julio Jones is a pure confidence killer.
When we get the ball inside the 5 and and won’t give our line a legit chance to cram it into the end zone is another confidence killer.
Having Winston heave the ball downfield every first drive is yet another killer when he constantly misses.
When you got players not on their A game, like Kwon and Ayers have been seen, it does no good for anybody including their backups watching from the sideline.
Will be interesting to see what decisions are made for running the football this week and if Dirk decides to build some confidence with what worked last week.
December 6th, 2017 at 1:19 pm
Alot of people were pushing for Alvin kamara on this site in last draft..imagine a really good running back that can also catch a mean ball out of the backfield with ease..what happens is the opponent can not stack to either the run or pass and is left guessing more times that not and that makes others around them better..man what could have been..you know a guy like devante Freeman , hunt , Bell , kamara , or I’m sure more to come out next draft..why in the hell can we not get a good back and some really productive de’s ?
December 6th, 2017 at 1:34 pm
Hmmm….JW has passion…ooooh yea…..I forgot that’s too much passion (he makes boneheaded plays)!! And it’s said GMC doesn’t have enough passion (he doesn’t make enough plays) Mike was #1 now ME production has fallen off, oooh you need to feed the ball to Djax, why doesn’t OJ get involved more, gosh Cam play fell off….at some point you probably need to make a wise
assessment and realize the problem isn’t just in the locker room at ONE BUC…. it’s also found within some of this fanbase…extremely harsh, unpractical fan base.
Based on Patrick’s show…it’s not all talent….because we need more passion the kind of passion… oops JW….
has it may get you into trouble, but that’s what happens when you try to create something. Yes Patrick sounds like a keeper who doesn’t lack confidence. Of course, some think kicking is extremely easy so Pat you better not miss….this crowd will flip on you like that coin flipped at Lambeau…and cost us the game.
Beware of this fair-weathered fan base who will throw the baby out with the bath water…frightening👹🖤👿🖤
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December 6th, 2017 at 1:40 pm
Is it though pickgrin, is it really?
December 6th, 2017 at 1:45 pm
passion is best served quietly…..seething quiet passion….not junior high pep rally dramactics
December 6th, 2017 at 2:34 pm
Jarod…..I know it’s a fans right to second guess a draft choice by I’ll never understand why fans worry about who we didn’t get when what’s more important is who we did get.
Personally I think it looks like a really nice draft class with 4 players, OJ, Godwin, Evans and Beckwith who all look to have nice careers here in Tampa.
I can understand the beef about RB and DE players but there is more then just the 2017 draft class to blame for that…….Especially at DE which was a position that needed to be adressed from Lichts first postseason.
Also, not knowing what the Bucs were thinking, there could be a chance(obvisouly would be a misevaluation) that the Bucs had McNicolos rated just as high or very close to Kamara and why they waited……..It wouldn’t be the first time a fifth rounder outplayed a 2nd rounder and we would all be giving them praise had that been the case.
I just really think it’s more accurate to judge the players they did choose rather then the hundreds they didn’t………..I never hear anybody cry about not selecting the several other RBs they didn’t select that didn’t have great seasons. The only names you hear is fans plucking Hunt and Kamara out of the mix because they blew up. It is so very easy to do that in the middle of the season but on draft day is is and always will be a total crapshoot.
December 6th, 2017 at 2:58 pm
Passion? How quickly Dirk forgot the training camp takeover where we stood for 3 hours straight, screaming in 95 degree , 100% Humidity for his team. That’s passion, Dirk Koetter. You failed to deliver on your part.
Passion? Dirk is going to try and preach passion? What did you (Dirk) do when your leader on Offense instigated a brawl causing your best WR to get suspended a game? You stood there with your arms folded watching other coaches break it up and show zero emotion.
Passion? Watch the latest Rock Riley video of GMC’s locker room video.
Passion? Watch the Buccaneers snapchat video today, where you see defensive players practicing a choreographed handshake.
The more I watch interviews and videos, the more I see how this team is full of fakes and frauds. You take on the personality of your head coach, plain and simple.
I feel so foolish for buying into it.
December 6th, 2017 at 3:20 pm
Wow…pretty lame response Joe. I wasn’t trying to do anything but try to figure out a way to come to your website. “Best of luck,” is not the response I was expecting.
December 6th, 2017 at 4:01 pm
The Tampa media is largely in support of Dirk. Maybe they don’t want to be associated with a disfuctional franchise that blows through head coaches and is putting their own image above winning, I don’t know.
IM Not one for clinging to a 9-7 record with only passion to bank on. Not when the team is going backwards ringt in front of us.
Only the media saves dIRk iMo. They better be right. TOO much talent to justify this train wreck and the fans are getting restless waiting.
December 6th, 2017 at 4:15 pm
A new coach will bring in his own guys, that’s been done repeatedly. Roster overhauls are the first thing a coach does. I, for one, am not ready to throw in the towel on D.K.
A lot of haters and psuedo-GMs on this site. I’m just a fan tired of starting over.
December 6th, 2017 at 4:36 pm
The players are playing hard….but when you know your playing without a purpose….when you know your playing in a failed design it makes it hard to put your best foot forward all the time.
Fire Mike Smith, Dirk should either give up play calling, or hire someone else to handle clock management and other in game head coaching responsibilities, and keep Jason Licht.
Dirk will get this thing humming I know he will….but only when someone comes in here and sends the players out on defense in a scheme that looks to be designed by someone who has a pair.
December 6th, 2017 at 5:57 pm
……we talking about passion in the NFL???? Don’t you need passion to get to this level??? What about passion to put players in the best position to win, passion to adjust the roster to its strengths? Damn shame the fans have more passion than majority of the roster. Think I might call Satan and see if we can bargin my soul for the Bucs to be competitive again
December 6th, 2017 at 6:21 pm
@Buccaneer Bill……..Much like when Dirk was hired I don’t think a new guy means we have to overhaul and start from scratch. I would also hope that would be a requirement for any new coach. I would also like to see somebody who could work with Licht because Jason has done a nice job finding talent in the drafts overall.
I hear a lot of fans saying the same thing as you that they don’t want Dirk fired because of what happened with the last three coaches. I don’t understand this notion because each one should be discussed separately IMO. It doesn’t make any sense to keep Dirk because of what happened with Greg Schiano or Lovie. I don’t see how it does.
Dirks situation is different then any other coach that’s been here. He was brought in with a talented roster of young players that were expected to only get better, a look at the young offensive line we have has shown regression especially in the rush game.
Dirk was retained to get Winston to the next level. Where are the results?
He was also retained because his offensive was effective in 2015. Since then he has changed the way this offense operates and it has been much less effective.
Another thing is the DJax signing. This falls back primarily on Licht but I don’t think it’s a major reach to suggest Dirk wanted to spend most of our free agent money in the passing game………..That was a waste of money as the other three phases of the game are absolutely horrible and our passing game has gotten worse at the same time. It was a waste of money and Dirk should be accountable in part.
There’s only one thing and one thing only that’s good that I can think of to say about Dirk. And that’s having a 9-7 record. I think fans are clinging to that mark but in reality 9-7 is quite lame in the NFL unless it is a sign of things to come.
December 6th, 2017 at 8:50 pm
I appreciate that commitment Kansas but Satan is not interested in helping this organization. I’m convinced that he, himself, has put the curse on us. I believe that he and Gruden made a deal after Gruden was fired.
December 6th, 2017 at 9:05 pm
OMG Joe, thanks for that awesome picture of Rachel. She can carry my flag ANY day!
December 7th, 2017 at 5:35 am
@JimmyJack
We can agree to disagree. I base my thoughts on how the team looks to me, especially the offense. The key question for me is: Does the team look like they’ve given up? No, not in my opinion. I have seen decades of bad Buccaneer offenses, and I don’t see that when I look at Koetter’s offenses in the aggregate over three years. I see more talent at more positions, but I don’t see quality play at DL, RB, and OG. The Marpet move to Center will pan out, while Winston needs to cut down on his mistakes. But, don’t kid yourself, Winston is a franchise QB.
I’m not happy about the defense, but they didn’t turn into a juggernaut last year, they had a few good games against a week schedule. That 9-7 schedule last year bought them a tougher one this season. Our linebackers are good, but I saw Lavante David get blocked out on those QB runs last week in OT. When I hear the coaches talk about being out of position, that’s on the players for not playing assignments. Get a DL, plug in a durable RB, and see some improved play from the OL and things will look so much better next season. If that happens and the team still fails to improve, then consider a change, but for now – Stay the course!
December 7th, 2017 at 11:01 am
So in week 14, when all is lost, DK tries a passion speech? Smh…..