Jason Licht Talks Jameis
December 26th, 2017
Tampa Bay general manager Jason Licht has been quiet for a while, not talking publicly except for his weekly spots on the Buccaneers Radio Network.
On Sunday before the Panthers-Bucs game, Licht raved about his prized draft pick Jameis Winston, America’s Quarterback.
Licht’s assessment coming out of the Atlanta game on Monday Night Football was a lot like what Dirk Koetter said, that a healthy Jameis is a better Jameis.
Licht said Jameis is “as close as he’s been to being 100 percent” healthy. And the GM said it appeared to translate to the field as he slung the rock against the Falcons.
“Jameis trusted his arm more than I’ve ever seen him trust his arm,” said Licht, adding Jameis is throwing the ball “more effortlessly” now.
And Jameis went out and turned Licht into Nostradamus, recording a beastly throwing day against an excellent Panthers defense on a cool Christmas Eve in Charlotte.
So now the question is whether Team Glazer will hang Dirk Koetter after a season in which his young franchise quarterback was injured but looked strong upon his return?
December 26th, 2017 at 8:17 pm
If Jameis was the primary problem because of the problem, possibly. But too many things went wrong this year, and Jameis was one of the least of the problems.
December 26th, 2017 at 8:22 pm
Yes they will. It only makes sense to keep Koetter. Great job JW
December 26th, 2017 at 8:33 pm
If Gruden doesn’t sign up, then keep Koetter and Monken and fire everyone else, especially the incompetent GM.
December 26th, 2017 at 8:33 pm
It’s about the only case you could make for Dirk.
Winston has looked a lot better the last two and it defientaly seems that the shoulder was no excuse for his poor play and was a big part of the reason.
Winston aside there are a ton of questions about some poor decision this team has made……Not sure if Winston alone will save him.
December 26th, 2017 at 8:34 pm
They don’t trust his arm to throw it into the end zone evidently!
December 26th, 2017 at 8:36 pm
I agree this was just an off year overall.
December 26th, 2017 at 8:53 pm
If Koetter had a playoff appearance under his belt….then he certainly gets another season. The reality of his record is simple….he has ONE 5 game winning streak….everything else is 1 win…2 losses. In two seasons he’s managed just TWO 2 game winning streaks. He’s managed losing streaks of 3 games, 5 games and now another 5 possibly 6. Think about that….in 31 games, he’s had 3 streaks of losing that account for 13 losses. Spin that around…in his 3 best winning streaks….he has 9 wins. I believe Koetter would even tell you he hasn’t got the job done. He cant get his team out of funks…he’s not winning close games…he didn’t maximize what Winston does well….and he picked a god awful defensive coordinator. If the Glaziers plan to hire another up and coming coordinator….then maybe i see keeping Koetter for one more year….at least you know what you have with Koetter. Other then that, i think they have to get Gruden, Arians, Harbaugh or even maybe o’Brien.
December 26th, 2017 at 8:56 pm
Nothing like holding on at the end of a love affair.
December 26th, 2017 at 9:01 pm
I could live with giving Koetter another year, but what kind of d coordinator are they going to be able to bring to town knowing it might be a one year gig?
December 26th, 2017 at 9:12 pm
The point made by austinbuc is the big issue with a coaching change. I think it has to be all or none unfortunately. The best case scenario for the Bucs is maybe Smith gets another job and takes it.
I know if I was a coach I would have zero interest in joining this staff next year unless it was a full rebuild of the coaching staff
December 26th, 2017 at 9:12 pm
You mean the GM came out of hiding when his QB finally had a good game? I’m astonished.
December 26th, 2017 at 9:23 pm
Peyton Barber not being the starter when deserved it over Martin isn’t Winston’s fault. Neither is having some of the most predictable play calling according to DCs that have faced this team isn’t Winston’s fault.
December 26th, 2017 at 9:27 pm
Season Is Over spot on, Licht always pops up to prop his crappy tenure up, like floating that he had a trade in place to get dalvin cook, BS… just draft cook but no you dont you do get that trade done for a kicker
December 26th, 2017 at 9:43 pm
Let’s hope the trend of Winston having a higher completion percentage continues to trend up.
We have a dataset of 30+ games that are average to below average and a smaller dataset of great games.
He’s young and gifted.
I hope he can find some mentorship and learn how to lead and be more consistent physically and emotionally.
I believe the mental part of his game needs the most work — temper tantrums and penalties of passion just don’t help the team.
December 26th, 2017 at 9:44 pm
Link to an interesting take on Jameis Winston’s continuing meltdowns. Remember, Jimbo had to tell him to STFU back at FSU. Some things never change:
December 26th, 2017 at 10:14 pm
Sorry Mr. Licht, your draft picks have been overrated and your free agency signings, disastrous. Goodbye!
December 26th, 2017 at 10:18 pm
B4 the game? C’mon..
December 26th, 2017 at 10:39 pm
Macklemore
Is it possible to gather the opinion of anyone who has played sports or has been able to climb one set of stairs before passing out?
Lions do not listen to the opinions of sheep. Or fat ass geeks who got beat up in gym everyday
You guys are funny. Keep going one day very soon Winston will leave Tampa and you can have Mike Glennon burning up the scoreboard.
December 26th, 2017 at 10:51 pm
Licht’s future and job security depends on Winston’s success or failure. Koetter’ s scaled down game plan for Jameis these last 2 weeks may have saved his and Licht’s jobs.
Jameis still has a Long way to go before he is a franchise QB
December 26th, 2017 at 10:59 pm
Db55
Marklemore and others are scared of a strong personality Qb.
Marklemore whoever wrote that forgot 1 key subject. Winning. That writer is just bashing JW behavior but left out that if the Bucs win some games every now and then JW doesn’t get mad about losing. Easy remedy. It goes hand and hand. Players win they are happy and fans are happy. Players lose they get mad and fans get mad.
I read that whole story looking for the solution of JW madness but their was none. It made Jameis look like a idiot and a escape drunk prisoner mad man serial killer.
December 26th, 2017 at 11:01 pm
I just can’t accept that Winston’s play alone should keep this front office together.
In 2015 we were a complete offense passing and running the ball. Our defense wasn’t very good but we were decent a stopping the run.
Right now we are bad in every area of football except passing. Our special teams is even getting worse.
Problems aren’t getting fixed only created.
December 26th, 2017 at 11:12 pm
Jimmyjack
Ur right. Every facet of the game is broken. A damn wr threw a bomb on us and completed 51 YARD TD TO JJ!!!!!!
WE ONLY KICK OFF CORRECTLY. We had 10 on field for TD scored on us. Pats game we kick after kick after kick. We got our punt blocked twice. No run game or threat. Peyton barber is way better than dm. so teams playing deep every down stopping the pass ( jw been an excellent tight window thrower btw). Maybe we are ok at passing. Just ok cuz of no running threat makes teams game plan defensivly eaiser to stop JW.
December 26th, 2017 at 11:14 pm
You guys are going to get grey hairs worried about the haters. The fact is Winston has a laundry list of incidents in his college/pro career.
The rage accusation alone was enough to have some people hate him reguardless of anything else. No matter what if Winston isn’t winning there will be a group of people that will be showing their hate……And guess what? Everything he’s doing(Uber, eating his fingers, picking fights) is only growing his group of haters so get used to it.
You aren’t going to change anybody’s opinions since most of theirs are made up. Only person who can shut them up is Winston and only with winning so you better just get used to it for the next several months.
It will also be getting worse when this Uber case plays out no matter what the outcome is.
December 26th, 2017 at 11:15 pm
Rage was a typo…..no need to spell it out.
December 26th, 2017 at 11:25 pm
Another problem that’s starting to creep up on us and only getting worse is the amount of pentalties we are taking.
I think it was the GB game where we had multiple delay of game pentalties. Delay of game is a penalty for rookie offensive systems.
And what about Mike Evans getting called for PI weekly? The guy has been committing PI since his rookie year if we are going to be honest. We saw refs take note and start to look for Mike committing PI last year……..This is a problem that should have been prepared for. They are ways to avoid it with proper coaching………..Where’s the foresite? Answer: Same foresite used on that final drive ind the 2nd quarter on Sunday.
December 26th, 2017 at 11:55 pm
I got ur first 2 post but I didn’t understand your last post. Do u mean it creeped in as the season got late or its beginning to creep up? There is one game left. Season is over. Time to look at who playing hard and standing out around this time. There is nothing to play for but that only. Player performances and wins.
About ur first post JW and his team needs to win. Only thing standing out is his entertainment gaffes. I think it’s not his mishaps or his memes, he starts winning will fix his rep.
December 27th, 2017 at 12:05 am
Under Licht’s watch…the Bucs have “earned” the right to pick 1st, 9th, 18th ( inexplicably OJ Howard was still on the board ) and most likely 5th next spring. I can see why his option for next year was picked up given that sterling resume/performance.
December 27th, 2017 at 12:10 am
Hahahaha Lamarcus…….Honestly I’m not sure what I meant. I think I’m just bit up about the pentalties from the last game. We went on a really long and time consuming drive before missing(of course) that FG. Three if you count the holding in the end zone……But hey kudos to Hawley for instigated a pentalty(that dude plays physical, Don’t bench him all year!!!!).
It’s unnessary to have to overcome two pentalties when you are driving to win the game. Was that the end of the nonsense pentalties? Of course not as Baker chimes in getting owned by Cam on the hard count.
Call it what you will but my take is that these pentalties shown a complete lack of confidence……..When it’s time to close out a game all we get is losers that have no mental ability to win in this league. That’s why we see them do dumb crap.
And I’m actively blaming this lack of confidence as being contagious and rubbing off on the kicker…….Nobody can teach 5is team how to win and play confident football…….Nah I won’t blame GMC I’ll blame Dirk. Get Gruden in here or somebody else who can give this team some confidence.
December 27th, 2017 at 12:22 am
It’s hard to blame lack of confidence on penalties. Penalties are always a lack of disciple. I didn’t get mad at nothing about last game but the dm decision was atricious
December 27th, 2017 at 12:26 am
Yeah I can see the discipline aspect but when your team is trying to win the game and you commit a pentalty that’s when the pressure is most Felt…..that’s why I call it a confidence issue
December 27th, 2017 at 12:31 am
It’s just like a pitcher in baseball…..He can be a great thrower but put a little pressure on him and he will start to commit errors(pentalties) and walk or hit batters………Pressure in sports makes your true form come to fruition. IMO this team lacks confidence and it’s shown every time they have been given a chance to win in the fourth.
December 27th, 2017 at 6:40 am
Joe, please turn off your automatic moderation on TBBF
December 27th, 2017 at 8:02 am
EEK Says:
December 26th, 2017 at 9:43 pm
“…temper tantrums and penalties of passion just don’t help the team.”
Cam had them his first few years. Still does. I would say the Panthers have found success.
December 27th, 2017 at 8:10 am
Dirk Koetter AND Jason Licht deserve another year.
Come on, people, we all knew Licht sucks at free agency. We’ve known it for years. His strength is young talent evaluation. We haven’t had a GM good at that since Rich McKay, and he wasn’t half as good as Licht is.
You don’t build a lasting competitor through veteran free agency. You build it through the draft and youth.
I’m not willing to give that up, and anyone here who is? Well, you be the judge.
And don’t be so willing to give up on players like VHIII so quickly.
December 27th, 2017 at 8:35 am
dirks downfall is going to be his terrible game plans and idiotic decisions when it comes to playing time. for example, there is the report that jameis was upset at the playbook being to vanilla, idk if i believe the beef but i do know our play book has been very predictable this season. jenna laine reported that defensive staff members told her that the bucs were the easiest offense to prepare for. i can’t tell you how many times a game i predict what play call is coming. far too often i know that. then comes his issues with playing the right players. there is no reason doug martin should be seeing the field ever since the green bay game. barber earned his starting role and frankly rodgers has been more affective than doug too. still dirk decides to keep playing doug and even after barber has an effective first half running the ball this week he turns to martin in the 2nd half. thats idiotic and absolutely killed our running game. there’s no other way to describe it a smart head football coach makes these decisions with ease it’s not hard to tell that barber is the more effective player and it’s not hard to see that godwin should have been seeing significant playing time for longer than just the last couple of weeks. i hate rotating through coaches so quickly but his decison making has really come across as odd and just plain stupid to this point and i just believe he’s not fit for the job. he is not fully to blame for the record because of injuries and other circumstances that fall on the players , but he is also not putting them in the best situations to succeed witch is the #1 job of a head coach. ill tell ya one thing i don’t think gruden would have a hard time identifying barber as the best back on this team and wouldn’t split carries by halfs like Dirk is doing. that is one of the dumbest things ive heard from a coach in quite some time.
December 27th, 2017 at 8:37 am
also he has failed to correctly address the main problem with this team (discipline) for years now the bucs and players on this team have let one thing lead to another and can never find a way to get out of a rut. football is about overcoming adversity and the bucs constantly fail to do that. that comes down to a lack of leadership witch starts from the top (HC)
December 27th, 2017 at 6:03 pm
if his sins began and ended with Jameis’ play i could by that. However, the questionable game planning, the bizarre-to-inept clock management late in halves, and his tendency to drift away from clear mismatches in his playcalling all have been evident regardless of the QB’s health. It all contributes to a general lack of implicit faith by the players in the guy(s) getting them ready for the game\season, which feeds into even more doubt in a vicious cycle. Renewing confidence requires some new faces – if not at the head coaching position, then in every major role beneath it. A delegated playcaller, a more proven QB coach, and a new defensive coaching staff are the minimim requirement for year 3 of the Koetter era to happen