Jameis Winston’s Ugliest Stat
December 21st, 2017
Deplorable data
Forget for a moment that America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, is riding a personal eight-game losing streak as a starter.
Let’s take a full sample size, such as 16 games, and look at the Buccaneers’ first-half scoring.
In Jameis’ last 16 starts, your beloved Bucs are averaging just 7.5 points in the first halves of games. That’s horrible production, the kind that changes the complexion of games because your team is too often trailing.
In 2016, the Bucs ranked 22nd in the NFL in first-half scoring at 10.4 points. In 2015, even with Doug Martin running wild, the Bucs were 16th in the league at scoring in the first half at just under an 11-point average.
Sorry, but you can’t push this all off on the playcaller and the guys around Jameis.
Dirk Koetter’s offenses in Atlanta never ranked worse than 11th in the NFL in first-half scoring. So you can’t call it a Koetter thing.
Jameis had a nasty habit of slow starts to games in college. He also had a habit of digging himself and his team out of those early holes.
Two reasons Jameis was drafted were for his renowned leadership and incredible football IQ. Well, Joe has to question the leadership skills when the offense steadily takes too long to get its engine going. And while Koetter must make better adjustments earlier, so does Jameis. He’s got some freedom at the line of scrimmage, and he simply needs to be prepared to play better sooner.
At the end of the day, it’s the quarterback’s team. And especially, it’s the quarterback’s offense.
The steadily anemic first halves might be the biggest story of this lousy Bucs season.
December 21st, 2017 at 10:25 am
Is there a stat for overthrows?
December 21st, 2017 at 10:43 am
Jameis is a jealous person
Its going to eat him up if a young qb near his age wins a superbowl this year……
Watching the playoffs again is going to get him pissed
If we win only 4-6 wins next year, dont be surprised if he doesnt want a long contract and just play on 1 year franchhise tag
December 21st, 2017 at 10:43 am
Improvement along both the O-line and D-line will go a long, long ways to the Bucs success in coming years. Hopefully Coach or GM Gruden ( whichever he decides or maybe both) will do just that.
December 21st, 2017 at 11:04 am
Jameis can do it!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g7-R4v9G-to
December 21st, 2017 at 11:04 am
Man, after your column on his actual stats being really good, it’s good to see you’ve got another negative column concerning Jameis. Whew, I thought for a second there appeasing the mob wasn’t a priority. Run Jameis, run.
December 21st, 2017 at 11:16 am
My guess its is because the new been’d around, the Sims/Humphries/Evans/Djax/Swaggy bubble screens, ok, not really swaggy, but that is about the production on those screens with a few exceptions
December 21st, 2017 at 11:17 am
It’d be interesting if someone had a stat for how many times Bucs’ drives in the 1st half fizzled either because of turnovers, rushes that fell short, or because of incompleted passes. And then how many of those could be laid at Jameis’ feet.
Without knowing how that analysis would turn out, my guess would be that the Bucs QBs would be ‘accountable’ for the vast majority of drive killers. But I’d also suspect that if one looked deeper into it, there’d be a LOT of shall we say ‘mitigating circumstances’? Things like receivers not making plays that were make-able, or our OLine allowing a jailbreak that got Jameis or Fitz creamed (followed by a fumble or INT), etc.
December 21st, 2017 at 11:29 am
Stats are for losers. What matters are wins
December 21st, 2017 at 11:29 am
Penalties! It seems like whenever the Bucs have a big play or worse yet a game changing play it gets called back. This happens way too often to be a mere coincidence and it’s been happening for years throughout multiple coaching regimes.
Leads me to believe that the league is purposely calling penalties on the Bucs. I’m also convinced that the patriots get more than there fair share of friendly calls. Krafts relationship with goodell would be my suspicion so I ask myself wtf did the glaziers do to goodell to deserve such treatment. Chit just ain’t right! It’s every single big play! It’s amazing that the Bucs are even able to score.
And let’s not talk about the refs eating their whistles when it comes to protecting Jameis. He never gets roughing calls, just like cam never does. Hmmmm 🤔
December 21st, 2017 at 12:02 pm
@joe…I disagree
this ties directly to dirk…..in atl and in 2015 dirk had an HC that held his hand….now that he’s the man in charge, the offense has no identity and with all these weapons we cant score more than 21 points….that falls on dirk…simple as that!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
December 21st, 2017 at 12:21 pm
Under Jimbo, FSU have had a history of slow starts and adjustments are made at halftime!
It’s the playcaller!
And the Atlanta game wasn’t a slow start the RB fumbled after a long drive!
December 21st, 2017 at 12:42 pm
Can’t blame him for having a poorly coached, rotten Defense, no running game, and an O-line that nearly got him decapitated.
You judge the Head Coach and his entire team by win totals, not just the QB.
December 21st, 2017 at 12:53 pm
nole4Jaboo, shhh, don’t ruin the narrative.
December 21st, 2017 at 1:02 pm
Here is the thing, everyone saying well Jameis has a bad oline, no running game, no defense please explain the following to me……. How is it that young Jameis can’t get it done with all his leadership and raw talent and football smarts but yet across the country another talented signal caller is getting it done?
That QB would be Jimmy Garappolo. He is 5-0 as a starter. Took a team that was last place in the league and made them better. SF is Ranked 23th in the league in points and 22nd in yards allowed. They surely are better than TB at stopping the pass but they allow more points. For comparison our rock stars are ranked 22th in points allowed.
From Pro Football Talk today: “Jimmy Garoppolo is running the 49ers’ offense like a seasoned veteran.
Sunday’s win over the Titans was just the fifth start of Garoppolo’s career, and yet he was in complete command both on the sideline and on the field, as revealed by an NFL Films video showing Garoppolo leadership with coaches and teammates in the closing moments of the game.
San Francisco led 22-20 with three minutes left in the fourth quarter, but the Titans had the ball and were driving toward a go-ahead field goal. It was Garoppolo who made sure everyone on the 49ers’ sideline was on the same page about what they were going to need to do if the Titans took a late lead.
First Garoppolo asked the 49ers’ coaches to review with him what their calls would be during the two-minute drill. After that, Garoppolo went to the 49ers’ receivers and told them what to be looking for from the Titans’ safeties to determine how deep to run their routes. Finally, Garoppolo approached 49ers kicker Robbie Gould to ask him where the offense needed to get the ball to make him feel comfortable that he was in field goal range. Gould told Garoppolo he needed the offense to get the ball at least to the 37-yard line, which would be a 55-yard field goal.
Garoppolo marched the 49ers down to the 28, and Gould nailed the game-winning 45-yard field goal as time expired.
The 49ers’ decision to give up a second-round pick for Garoppolo just before the trade deadline is already paying off. They were 1-10 when Garoppolo entered the starting lineup and are now 3-0 with Garoppolo as their starter.”
Have you ever heard of Jameis doing this when the game was on the line? Talking to the players and coaches to go over all the details? I have heard of him eating W’s or trying to pump guys up but never that kind of focus and determination on the task at hand.
Look JW3 is talented and looks to be the most talented Buc to ever play at the position. But he as the leader and top pick in the 2015 draft needs to do more. You can say he needs help, well so does poor Jimmy in San Fran…. Guy was on a pathetic team and turned them around, his top receiver is his starting running back…. His offense is him and Carlos Hyde….. We have so much more. As the leader of the team it starts with the little things.
Sure JW3 is smart but knowing how weak your running game, kicker and defense is should make you play differently. You don’t be stupid and take risks unless you have to. Did you notice how differently he played against ATL on Monday night? He took check downs, played safe with the ball, etc. When you have no team around you sometimes doing less is more. Take the sack, don’t fumble at all costs, don’t throw stupid throws that put your team in a bad situation, don’t poke people in the back of the head and I could go on.
And by the way I think the last game was the best he has ever played in his NFL career, so I know he is capable. But he needs to put that out more often.
December 21st, 2017 at 1:29 pm
112 Fumbles Joe 12
December 21st, 2017 at 2:22 pm
M.M. beat Winston in every category at the nfl combine including football iq… Being accurate is more important then being a leader as a leader could be anyone on the team .
December 21st, 2017 at 2:22 pm
look at dirk koetters offenses at every stop he’s been at his first half scoring, first quarter in particular have always been horrible despite the fact he’s worked with 2 very talented offenses in tampa and atl and the jags had a decent offense personal wise while he was there
December 21st, 2017 at 2:45 pm
So what’s the answer Joe(s) – this is chicken and egg if I have ever seen it.
December 21st, 2017 at 4:12 pm
Insert Jameis for Bortles on the Jags and they may be undefeated at this point.
Insert Bortles for Jameis and the Bucs may be winless.
December 21st, 2017 at 6:40 pm
@Wausa
Nope. Fitz still won us 2 games
December 21st, 2017 at 6:45 pm
@bucglory2002
Well said sir!
December 21st, 2017 at 7:13 pm
Jameis is getting better at comebacks. Now he just needs to score more points in the 1st half and he will turn this team around. He STILL only has 4 opening drive TD’s in 43 games and 10 total 1st quarter TD passes. At least he got ONE on Monday night. Hope he gets better next year, he has looked better this year in some games. Still don’t have a Winston jersey! Not yet! Brad Johnson and the King of Tulane are the ONLY Bucs QB’s that I bought their jersey. Had a Doug Williams shirt I got my Mom to buy me when I was a kid in ’79. I hope JW is the NEXT QB jersey I get but he needs to be more consistent first.