Examining Koetter Referencing Dealing With “People That Are Trying To Tear Your Team Apart”
December 2nd, 2017
Joe has wrestled with this one for a week and is finally typing it up.
Dirk Koetter says he believes people are trying to implode his team he is challenged by the task of dealing with them calmly.
It was an eye-opener eight days ago with Koetter answered a question about what surprised him about being an NFL head coach.
Here’s the verbatim exchange on the Buccaneers Radio Network:
Host Casey Phillips reading a fan question: What was something that surprised you about being a head coach? You got about one minute.
Dirk Koetter: Oh, one minute’s not enough, Casey. I don’t know if I could [answer quickly], there’s new stuff every day. You can’t predict what’s going to happen. There’s always going to be stuff that comes up every day that needs your attention, or that demands your attention. And you just got to be ready for anything. And you got to keep a level head, you know, not let people that are trying to tear your team apart to get under your skin, which isn’t always easy.
So Joe has been wondering, to whom was Koetter referring?
It’s a bit of a troubling statement from the coach. So Joe’s going to dive in and speculate.
MEDIA – From Day 1 of his regime, Koetter was barraged by national claims that he might have orchestrated a coup to overthrow Lovie Smith and score the head coaching gig following the 2015 season. It upset Koetter deeply. He considered himself a loyal soldier to Lovie and a loyal person who simply wouldn’t do something like that. Joe always thought the speculation was ludicrous, primarily because Lovie clearly was a bad head coach running a brutal defense he had taken over personally. Lovie earned his fate.
Also, Koetter’s Bucs have endured assaults from local media, including the February hit job on America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, by the Tampa Bay Times.
For weeks recently, Bucs beat writer Scott Reynolds has been pounding a loud drum for a Jon Gruden return to coach the Bucs, including calling Koetter “very standoffish with the media.” Frankly, Joe finds Koetter the opposite of standoffish with media. This isn’t Girl Scouts. Koetter answers questions directly and is approachable and communicative. Heck, the guy invited Joe to have a beer in his office recently. What more is Koetter supposed to do, host a media barbecue, hand out Halloween candy to reporters, and stroke the collective media throng’s inflated egos?
Koetter’s recent radio take also came just a few days after the BuzzFeed detailed report that accused America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, of being a felonious crotch-grabber. So perhaps he was reeling a bit from that shock.
JAMEIS – Jameis isn’t trying to tear the Bucs apart. But what about his handlers? Did they advise him not to report the Uber crotch-grabbing allegation to the Buccaneers? The reality is Koetter was blindsided. Jameis, like any other player, is supposed to report any potentially suspect activity to the team immediately. So maybe Koetter feels Jameis is getting some me-first advice, which in turn is a force detrimental to the team.
Why exactly isn’t Jameis publicly naming the alleged third passenger in the Uber vehicle? That isn’t helping Jameis appear innocent to his teammates and fans, and that reality helps tear the team apart.
Just read Jameis’ public statement after the allegation. What a train wreck mess that was/is for a variety of reasons. Koetter may realize that he’s fighting against a PR nightmare that doesn’t have to be.
JON GRUDEN – Sorry, Chucky fans, but Joe has little respect for Chucky not going out of his way to say he supports Dirk Koetter as head coach of the Buccaneers. That should have been Chucky’s public response the minute rumors started swirling that he’d take over for Koetter in January. Weak and classless, Chucky.
Koetter was very welcoming to Chucky at training camp, let him address the team, and we all saw more of Koetter’s hospitality on Hard Knocks. Meanwhile, Chucky lives in Tampa, knows all about the rumors of him coaching the Bucs and won’t do a damn thing to quash them publicly.
Joe doesn’t care what Chucky may be working behind the scenes with Team Glazer, but have enough class to put up the appropriate public front, one that wouldn’t help, you know, “tear your team apart.”
*Joe could write a heck of a lot more about what Koetter might have been thinking when he referenced dealing with people trying to tear the team apart. Heck, there could be so many forces at play, which happens when a team struggles mightily. But Joe’s just going to cut it off here.
Hopefully, Koetter and the Bucs win games through their final five games this season. Winning is the best counter to any negative force.
December 2nd, 2017 at 11:18 am
Of all the controversy over the Bucs, this one is the most puzzling: “Why exactly isn’t Jameis not publicly naming the alleged third person in the Uber vehicle?” Assuming there was a 3rd person, and that person was in the front seat, that would seem to put Jameis out of trouble. Why has Jameis, and his attorneys, not named that 3rd person? By not naming, it makes it appear that Jameis is lying.
December 2nd, 2017 at 11:21 am
A win sort of “fixes everything”, so we need to beat the Packers at their home tomorrow.
I hope the Buc’s rally around Jameis tomorrow, and we go back to Tampa with a win.
December 2nd, 2017 at 11:24 am
What is this lopsided coverage? Koetter is a bad Coach, sometimes some of the play calling, makes me wonder if he didn’t have a couple of beers before he coach games. If this would have been Coach Smith, he they would be calling for his head. Call this Coach,what he is bad.
“Lopsided?” Joe shared Koetter’s take and offered insight into what Koetter might have been thinking when he said it.–Joe
December 2nd, 2017 at 11:25 am
He was talking about me. And every other fan that has seen enough and wants him and his best bud Mike Smith (Aka: The Atl Rejects) gone. In favor of a proven coaching staff of winners.
Write Jim Harbaugh a blank check. Hire Dave Gettleman run the front office, while retaining Jason Licht as head of Pro Personnel. Hire Nick Fangio to run the defense. Heavily address the O-line and D-line in both Free agency and the Draft. Get yourself a legitimate NFL Running back.
Voila, I have just given the Glaziers a sure fire formula for sustained success in the NFL.
December 2nd, 2017 at 11:28 am
Why the driver of the car produce her pickup order or other information to verify her store. The N.F.L. know the name of the third person
December 2nd, 2017 at 11:35 am
The problem we have with Kotter is that the team as a whole looks unprepared almost EVERY week. This is the most talented overall team we’ve ever seen and we still have a losing record. Again, we seem to never make any adjustments in a game to help us win. And Im tired of consistently getting 2 blow out games a season
December 2nd, 2017 at 11:40 am
I think he’s referencing the media. I’ve always thought the media in general down in that area is toxic for the Bucs. I’ve seen it with a couple different coaches and eventually the players start reading those stories and losing faith in the coaches.
As far as Jameis we really don’t know what information he has already given the NFL and Bucs organization to help move the investigation along. Just because that information isn’t made known to the media doesn’t mean it’s not happening. I’m still reserving judgment to see what comes of that before jumping to conclusions.
December 2nd, 2017 at 11:42 am
I get a chuckle over Koetter’s comments. “Tearing the team apart?”
An uninspired, predictable, weak, underachieving, soft 4-7 team playing the WORST defense in the NFL, led by clueless coaches and supposed team leaders in clown shoes doesn’t need any outside sources “tearing it apart.”
They did it to themselves.
If the Bucs were 7-4 you’d hear nothing.
Can anyone name me a more embarrassing Buccaneer team? This team is more pathetic than any team Leeman Bennet, Lovie Smith or Raheem Morris ever fielded…
December 2nd, 2017 at 11:44 am
@ Seminole Bill: the reason the third person hasn’t been named is that he doesn’t exist.
Occam’s Razor.
December 2nd, 2017 at 11:52 am
it ain’t coaching folks….to some degree it is the talent…to a greater degree the players attitude…
December 2nd, 2017 at 11:54 am
One thing Koetter has lacked is “his guys” in the locker room. Many coaches that become head coaches, get the opportunity to bring in some of their guys. Players that help establish a culture on the team. Koetter took over “Lovies guys”, you get the sense that nobody is playing for the coach….They kind of do whatever and don’t fear Koetter cutting them. I’ll continue to say I believe what you are seeing is a team that pretty well knows the season and their coach is done. The attention to detail just hasn’t been there….
December 2nd, 2017 at 11:55 am
@Waterboy
the things that I mention are some of the same issues the media has which may be the basis of the “coup” of Kotter
December 2nd, 2017 at 12:04 pm
All head coache’s face those types of things and in some cities its even harder. Can you handle the job or not?
December 2nd, 2017 at 12:14 pm
JUST SPEculating but feels gruden wants this job for real.
December 2nd, 2017 at 12:15 pm
Everyone knows coaches lie to protect gameplans, players, and their own hide. Joe puts a lot of faith in Koetter’s word because Joe has a clear fondness for Koetter, even Mike Smith. Notice how Joe (Lee) always puts a “look, I like”-kinda phrasing in front of virtually every form of criticism towards Koetter & co. Go back and hear the podcasts. I don’t recall this kinda of affection towards previous coaching staffs. Heck, Joe sponsers a podcast that got its bearings from kissing Koetter’s butt from a catchphrase. I don’t get all the excuses for a -losing- head coach. Koetter implies, Joe complies.
Well written and thought out, and completely off target.–Joe
December 2nd, 2017 at 12:16 pm
The only people JW3 needs to name names to is the NFL and the Bucs. Do some investigation and find out who else was at the same charity event and then dot the lines. JW3 owes the media nothing just because your livliehood depends on “Stories”.
December 2nd, 2017 at 12:16 pm
Joe, I respect the fact that you put it all on the Table. I wish it was possible to analyze the Buc’s performance using talent, coaching, motivation, X’s and O”s and all the tangible factors related to the game. Unfortunately sometimes the real “Elephant in the Room,” is the intangibles. Winston, and what we don’t know about his antic”s, Gruden and his influence with the Glazers, Koetter and his struggles to salvage a struggling team, and finally the true dynamics of the Buc’s locker room. I can only hope the Stabilizing factor is Winning.
December 2nd, 2017 at 12:17 pm
@Joe
You are wrong on 2 points!!!!!!
#1 . We don’t need JW3 to name everyone in the car!!!!! He stated his involvement, and if it is truthful and he told the investigation, then we have no problem with that at all!!!!!!!!
#2. Don’t blame Coach Gruden!!!! This is how he and his agent can get leverage with other teams and/or His current contract for a raise!!!!! Blame the Glazers for having a NFL GM in a lame duck year, and will not speak on confidence of the GM and/or Coaching staff!!!!!! They made clear what is important and that is advertising, as we all saw with hard knocks!!!!!!@ If they performance on the field and results were top priority, Then they would do everything they can to clear the way for coaches, players and employee’s to perform the best they can!!!!!! They should be clearing road blocks and distractions, not creating them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We all know that the Tampa2 mafia has been waiting to try to take down what is building at 1 Buc!!!! Just look at what was said after the first loss of the year!!!!!! And many sheep have confused potential and production!!!!!!!! This is a young core team and played inconsistent because of it!!!!! Throw in injuries and distractions, and that is how we got to this point!!!!!! But I don’t see the “quit on the coach” talk anymore!!!!!! The Tampa2 mafia will use any tactic to destroy the current team!!!!!! They will say bench and rest starters for a better draft pick, then turn around and say the coach did not get enough wins so they must be fired!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2017 at 12:32 pm
@Kansas……Totally agree
@realist…….the flick are you talking about? “Trying to take down what is building”??
Dude your head is in the clouds bro. This GM has been building here for 4 seasons and we have the worst defense in the league, an offense who gets behind by several TDs weekly, no running game to speak of. We’re getting blown out at a clip. We’ve been known for choking away big leads and when we get into a meaningful game we don’t even bother to show up.
This team sucks and they suck bad bro…..They aren’t building anything but a perianal loser.hahahahaha
December 2nd, 2017 at 12:33 pm
Interesting way to put it … “People who are trying to tear your team apart.” Wouldn’t have expected that in a million years coming from Dirk Koetter. He’s always struck me as the type that lets outside influences like that just run off his back (so to speak). But now it’s appearing that those “people” (whoever they are) do in fact seem to get under DK’s skin. If in fact that’s the case, my hunch is that it’s a combination of influences: some media folks (especially with this ridiculous Gruden thing undermining DK’s leadership role IMO), perhaps some agents (to include Jameis’ handlers), and possibly even 1 or more players in the locker room (a lot goes on in locker rooms in my experience that never leaves the locker room). In any event Joe, sounds like DK needs a good craft beer & a couple days away from the circus.
December 2nd, 2017 at 12:40 pm
I don’t know how to feel about Koetters response and Joes analysis.
Just to keep it black and white; we are in this place and state because we asked for the exposure and national spotlight. We thought because we won some games we were ready for the “big leagues” amongst the winning franchises. This very bluntly showed us that the core of our team is not ready and we still don’t have a identity and leadership.
I’m not sure what the value of winning the remaining games are because clearly we see and have heard winning isn’t a automatic carry over.
Also the players we have on our roster seem to be content with the current reputation we have.
That is the reason Koetter is feeling the heat – win and you’re good
December 2nd, 2017 at 12:46 pm
All Dirk needs to do is follow his own advice. When asked about how to handle two wrs(Evans/DJax) who both want the ball he said something along the lines how winning cures most of those feelings.
I ain’t wanna hear about his little problems unless he can win in this league. We all know it and so does Dirk that this is a result driven league. There is enough talent on this team to win with…..Fielding an uncompetitive team for him is completely unacceptable.
December 2nd, 2017 at 12:48 pm
There was no coup to overthrow Lovie. And there is none to do so with Koetter. The NFL is quite simple. You must WIN. Winning solves and covers up most problems. Our Bucs are losers right now. Everything is magnified/illuminated. And until we win, Koetter and his road dog Smitty will continue to catch hell or..Pack bags. There no Mystique. Win Koetter. Or join Lovie, Rah, and Schiano at the local fishin hole. Most of this talk is..Much to do about Nothin. WIN..and it all disappears!
December 2nd, 2017 at 12:53 pm
I believe Koetter was talking about TMAX….
Or….if TMAX has been right all along, perhaps he was talking about GMC
December 2nd, 2017 at 12:58 pm
@Tampabaybucfan
Or, it could be in part about the sheep that b!tch about “play-calling” all year long!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2017 at 1:02 pm
Dead on Mike……What’s with all the conspiracy theory’s with this teams front office anyways? It’s really pretty comical.
For one maybe Gruden is being courted by the Glazers. That wouldn’t mean he’s trying to shred the team it would mean the Glazers think Dirk stinks. Right?
For two maybe the Glazers asked him not to talk about the team to keep some pressure on Dirk. I don’t see why it’s such a big deal to let your HC handle a bit of pressure and see what happens. Pressure is part of, maybe the biggest, pro sports.
At the end of the day Dirk is taking this team backwards which is not the plan. Don’t mind what he said but he better get used to it if his team can’t compete.
December 2nd, 2017 at 1:02 pm
The team tore apart losing again. What like week 2? This team was done. Ain’t no body sabotaging Koetter either.
“You are what your record says you are”.
You can blame tampa media, jw, lovie, gruden….. Koetter was already suspect starting the year and he is making Skip Bayless look like he was right about koetter soft approach
December 2nd, 2017 at 1:07 pm
Yeah, I wonder how Jameis would look to all of these self-righteous pr*cks if he had used the apology I was going to use: “I DIDN’T DO IT, and F*** all of you a—–les who are saying I did without proof”
December 2nd, 2017 at 1:12 pm
@ Realist
I’ll cop to complaining about playcalling but that hardly makes me part of the sheep…..by sheep I believe you mean someone who blindly follows.
Actually, I like Koetter….just not his playcalling…..think he should give up one of the two…playcalling or HC.
December 2nd, 2017 at 1:12 pm
Wow…the Realist been keeping it real!
December 2nd, 2017 at 1:20 pm
@Tampabaybucfan
Great Idea!!!! Lets not have the best play caller in the building not call the plays!!!!!!!! Like I said earlier, If this offseason, its advantageous to hand off those duties and they have a plan and practice it!!! Then do it!!!!!!!
But when the bad o-line making the offense very 1 dimensional, and the QB that cannot stretch the field in pass game to get extra men from the box, I don’t how anyone can watch that and b!tch about the “playcalling”!!!!!!!!!! what is the magical play-calls he is supposed to be doing!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stack your chips, and straighten up Tampabaybucfan!!!! Your better than that!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2017 at 1:24 pm
Seminole Bill Says
“Why exactly isn’t Jameis not publicly naming the alleged third person in the Uber vehicle?”
Technically, he has not confirmed that Darby was there either. He’s being smart, rather than saying anything that can be twisted against him.
If, say, it is proven that there was only him in the car, well he can’t be called a liar, because he never said there was.
Doesn’t really matter though. He didn’t do it.
December 2nd, 2017 at 1:26 pm
I think you’ll all be surprised at the improvement in the run game going forward.
December 2nd, 2017 at 1:29 pm
@ Realist..
Confused by your double negative in the first sentence….but I think his game plans and playcalling has cost our offense dearly…..our Offensive production is nowhere where it should be.
We have Winston, Weapons & according to Joe a solid Oline…..and if the running game isn’t working that’s where the change of gameplan & playcalling come in.
If you think not being able to convert on 2nd and 2, 3rd and 2 & 4th and two is good playcalling…..perhaps you are the sheep.
December 2nd, 2017 at 1:33 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo think Koetter is talking about Pablo……Pablo suggested “Walk softly and swing a big m-fu-in’ elongated arc…..but Koetter went with stick. Pablo has pestered Koetter about that with texts and midnight phone calls…..Pablo apologizes to Dirk….now Dirk has no excuse to lose anymore.”
December 2nd, 2017 at 1:39 pm
@Tampabaybucfan
Sorry for the improper grammer!!!! Must have read 1 too many of your post the and “double negative” matched your attitude this year!!!!!! And I did not say that Head Coach Koetter play calling is perfect, like the rest of the NFL!!!!! But Atlanta thought and was prepared for the run!!!!!! Sorry that the backup QB did not convert or that the run game did not get stuffed so that you could be happy that the Bucs followed the old blue print book of playcalling!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2017 at 1:40 pm
Man lets be honest here, Kotter shot himself in the foot. How does your team come out ‘flat’ for multiple games? Why in the hell are we not putting our players in the best position to win
December 2nd, 2017 at 1:56 pm
@ Realist
You won’t find many with a more positive attitude than TBBF….I’ve had to maintain that since ’76….and it hasn’t been easy.
I must admit that this year….more than most years, I am a victim of unmet high expectations……I am extremely disappointed in the Bucs performance and I guess it shows.
Like I said, I like Koetter and hope he survives…I don’t like churning coaches every 2 years…..but there has to be some accountability from the GM, Coaches & Players.
Sure, there needs to be accountability from the Glazers….but, I think they are delegating as they should and they are coming up short…..again.
December 2nd, 2017 at 1:57 pm
I like to hear Dirk speak candidly. It would be nice for him to speak softly about how all the building he has invested into the passing game has done nothing but blow up in his face this year……..Thats the main reason we suck.
They built this team all wrong building it primarily around the passing game and our passing attack absolutely reeks. They thought they would have a team they could win a shootout type game and they have done nothing this year but prove just how horribly wrong they are. They really don’t have a clue how to build a winning team.
They basically ignored every other aspect of the game and focused only on the passing game for basically four years now.
The Bucs have screwed up so badly that we are good for a measly 3 or so points almost every first half with our awesome passing game……Then we get get behind every game because we have ignored every other part of the team and have no ability to win games outside of passing.
Talent or not this has been one of the most poorly constructed rosters in the history of this team. The front office has laid a complete egg.
December 2nd, 2017 at 2:10 pm
They got extremely greedy with DJax……and maybe they had to take O.J. but that was another luxury Dirk couldn’t afford in 2017.
It was a total lack of vision to keep adding receivers here while trusting injury prove J.smith, featherweight Spence and never has been Ayers to fill voids. And sorry Joe but it’s quite shameful you know better then Dirk about Martin. You’re allowed to be wrong.
THey got greedy and they got bit. By the time they fix the lines, which Dirk hasn’t proven an ability to do, they will have to be rebuilt again considering the approach this team takes.
December 2nd, 2017 at 2:21 pm
Realist, good point I have been watching too many passes sail over both Evans and djax’s head when they are open. Evans ,last year and Djax this year.
If Jameis doesn’t fix this this season,he needs to hire an offseason coach to work with him. Last i Heard he had a pitching coach.
The only other option is to become a shorter passing QB,in which case he will have to shave off more than a half second off his delivery and exercise a little better ball placement.
December 2nd, 2017 at 2:26 pm
Maybe the 3rd person is a player and friend so not naming him until after March to save them from the Clune civil suit. Jameis already taking the perception hit so waiting until limitations run out prob doesn’t matter at this point.
December 2nd, 2017 at 2:28 pm
Maybe he has too many things to deal with as head coach and OC.
The team has been ill-prepared most of the season.
Get it together coach. You get next year and that’s it.
December 2nd, 2017 at 2:34 pm
@Bob in Valrico
There is another way to look at that topic!!!!!! I was speaking with someone who I will not mention names but, What if JW3 needs to not practice more, but rest!!!!! It was suggested that just like a pitcher that losses velocity and starts throwing harder to keep it up and placement become erratic!!!!!!
I don’t know but maybe one of the Florida State robots can answer that while JW3 was not the greatest deep ball thower, he did hit in college the exact routes that were run this year, and he was not in the ball park for the WR to try to make a reception!!!!!!! But yes, strengthen the arm with out fatiguing it!!!!!!!! Could be why you see on plays opposing safties playing within 10 yards, hmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2017 at 2:35 pm
Keep my comment in moderation as long as you want Joe. Doesn’t mean I’m not right.
Amazing how you actually think Joe sits around staring at your comments agonizing whether to approve them. –Joe
December 2nd, 2017 at 2:36 pm
Jameis’ body of work is extensive enough for Koetter to know his strengths and weaknesses…..it’s on the coach to make the proper adjustments there.
Also with the impotent running game…..you have to make gameplan and in-game adjustments.
The same goes with the defense.
We have some coaching issues for sure.
Shorter passes for Winston……get Djax open on short passes…..
Defense is more difficult without any pass rush…..good luck with fixing that, Mike!!!
December 2nd, 2017 at 2:55 pm
Isn’t he talkin’ about M. Smith and his “defense”?
December 2nd, 2017 at 3:04 pm
Listen we can debate Koetter’s talent all you want but could we stop starting with a lie. It’s like saying we are cutting corporate taxes from 35% to 20% when that is clearly a Republican mistruth. The statuatory or posted rate for corps is 35% Corps actually pay…”the effective rate”…just under 20% at 19.8 which is about average for ALL corporations in the civilized world. Whenever you hear someone talk about cutting corporate taxes from 35% you know they’re zooming you.
It’s the same when I read this offense was the most talented we’ve ever seen?
WTF? We have an outstanding WR but he’s not even the best WR in his own division. We have a second WR with speed and promising TE’s and 3rd WR’s.
In short our receiving targets do contain some talent. But the rest of the O?
Who here is arguing that this OLine is just LOADED with talent. Our RB’s? Really? No great talent there.
But most importantly…our QB!!! What’s he done this year. Well he’s missed three straight games and played poorly a couple of games before that because of his injury. 5 games that #3 did NOTHING!!!
This offense was far from the most talented we’ve ever seen!!! “Potentially” #3 can be a great QB…but he’s not there yet!!! He hasn’t even outplayed all the Bucs QB’s from the past. He MAY yet…but right now he hasn’t and he’s a clear reason why you can’t really call this the best offense we’ve ever seen with the Bucs. Of course add in the OL and the RB’s and we really are not THAT talented.
December 2nd, 2017 at 3:46 pm
@ St. Pete
You haven’t considered the elimination of corporate deductions that allow them to go from 35% to 20%…..when you start at 20% their effective tax rate will end up lower even with fewer deductions. The pass through rates for small business is also a cut….no doubt about that. The 1.5 trillion deficit spending is there for a reason….that is generated from tax cuts and most of it is from cutting business taxes.
December 2nd, 2017 at 3:48 pm
Also….why do you think the market is responding so strongly to the plan?
Because they won’t benefit?
December 2nd, 2017 at 3:49 pm
@ realist
Quite possible , on the arm weariness. I was thinking about what toll pitching and QB’ing might have on his arm longterm.
December 2nd, 2017 at 3:55 pm
UMMM…@ JOE..Classless????
Maybe you should check out his interview/podcast HE REQUESTED with Rich Eisen. If you would of listened to it (you did report on your page and link it) Gruden stated he has respect for all coaches in their position and enjoys his job now….
Heard what Gruden said, and it didn’t hit the mark. And the Tampa rumors escalated from there with nothing from Gruden. Sorry, don’t like that Gruden didn’t step up and give any sort of any nod to Koetter specifically. –Joe
Now you want a personal support from Gruden when the Glazers haven’t???????????? The Glazers give Koetter plenty of support. They pay his check like any other employer.–Joe
Who wants a weak minded coach worried about who is “tearing apart the team” handle what your to handle
One thing on Gruden…..he didn’t give a flying stick carrying frig a mi jig who is worried about his team…. Fact is Gruden was borderline obsessed who was worried about his team. Joe could tell you a few stories. Or feel free to ask eye-RAH! Kaufman. He’s told some of them on his podcast –Joe
WRITE WHY THE GLAZERS HAVENT SUPPORTED KOETTER PUBLICALLY NOT GRUDEN
YOU WANT A MAN TO FEEL SORRY FOR WANTING TO RETURN TO HIS ONLY SUPERBOWL TEAM IF THE GLAZERS OBVIOUSLY FEEL THE SAMEWAY
UNBELIEVABLE JOKE OF A RANT WHICH MAKES NO LOGICAL SENSE AT THE END JOE LOL
December 2nd, 2017 at 3:58 pm
Jameis is hiding something. Can’t trust him.
December 2nd, 2017 at 5:18 pm
So Gruden’s classless if he’s talking to the Glazers about replacing Dirk and not telling the media he’s not. That would be a lie. Better to say nothing than to lie. It’s only classless if he’s “not” talking to the Glazers and intentionally lets the rumors run.
December 2nd, 2017 at 5:45 pm
GRUDEN IS GARBAGE – Who would want him back? Let’s not get confused who built the team he took over & won with – Dungy
I’m not sure at this point why the Bucs are doing so bad. Is it really the coaching? Yeah that’s probably a big reason why – does that mean we fire them right away, NO.
Here’s the deal, we keep going through coaches like a circus. Rather than get rid of the coaches every couple years, let them find out who the WEAK LINKS are on the team and get rid of them. The problem is, is that we have issues with quitters, locker room “cancers”, etc. – if we keep switching coaches, they stay. Let them make the moves they have to make in order to get the team in the right direction.
Also, let’s not forget how a lot of people were upset with the possibility of Smith leaving in the offseason. If JL can’t get them a pass rusher how is any defense supposed to be good?
I am a little concerned with Winston’s leadership style though. It’s a lot different from Brady, Brees, & Rodgers (From what i see on tv, online, etc.). I personally think that he has a lot of growing up to do.
December 2nd, 2017 at 6:16 pm
I’m for giving coach K another season or two, granted he gets an OC who can play call a lot better, gets a new DC, and starts planning to replace JW3.
December 2nd, 2017 at 6:19 pm
And yes, we definitely need a DE first pick of the draft….Arden Key or Chubb.
December 2nd, 2017 at 8:39 pm
My gut tells me Scott Reynolds got a lot of clicks calling for Lovie to be fired around week 4 of his second season. It’s a shame because I used to love the Fab 5, but it’s clear that after his interview with Gruden this summer he wants to own this story that hasn’t happened (yet.)
All I can say, if Jon Gruden is reading this, then I’d recccomebd he avoid SR, because if the Bucs aren’t in the playoffs by next season then he’s gonna he all over that like the Joes on Doug Martin
December 2nd, 2017 at 10:01 pm
Bring on Gruden..He would make the bucs relavant again .He is NOT Gruden’s place to defend bucs coach as that belongs to the owners
December 2nd, 2017 at 10:50 pm
we need both chubbs this next draft/keep koetter but get a better playcaller that is in sync with Jameis/ new defensive coaches
Joe, what are your thoughts on who the third person is
I wonder about the background of the uber bitch, how many times has she filed lawsuits, etc unfair we get to know nothing about her but Jameis gets slandered.
December 3rd, 2017 at 12:15 am
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JOE,
This is an absurd article! I go on vacation, disconnect from the net for a week and return to this? Come on man!
It seems pretty obvious Koetter was referring to the media and so-called “fans” alone and not any of the Bucs players.
However, *IF* he was referring to a player or players, Jameis would probably be LAST on the list, as even when Jameis was injured and not playing he never “checked out”, always remained engaged and did his best to pump up his teammates and the like.
Also, Jameis’ uber thing occurred after his ROOKIE year at a time he certainly had no issue with Koetter … and then last year Jameis and Koetter went 9-7 together with Jameis referring to him as a “genius” … and even this year, Jameis has said nothing but positive things about Dirk, and again, has done everything but “check out” on the season.
The above said, I honestly feel that to imply Jameis may want Koetter to fail is not simply lazy reporting but slanderous to Jameis.
I can think of FIFTY-TWO other players on the Bucs roster that may want Koetter to fail more so than Jameis.
COME ON JOE … YOU’RE BETTER THAN THIS … RIGHT?
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December 3rd, 2017 at 12:23 am
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And STOP with the nonsense about Jameis needing to “name” the 3rd passenger. He does NOT and probably should NOT do that under any circumstance!
If Jameis believes the uber driver is LYING about being touched by the front-seat passenger there is no reason for Jameis to name that person just so she can then file a civil lawsuit against that innocent individual. Let her and her legal team try to determine who the front-seat passenger was so she can sue him or her … don’t just offer up an innocent person to the wolves so he or she can get slapped with a civil suit … again … COME ON MAN!
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December 3rd, 2017 at 2:00 am
The Media ask stupid, idiotic questions but for the most part they are Soft ball questions for a Losing coach I think they are very soft. The one time anyone asked a good question.(Roy Cummings) about, why the buc’s didn’t address the pass rush or try to get Campbell,he went off on a tangent. Win some games and prove your a good coach Dirk! You make yourself look bad when you continue to admit that you can’t fix anything. Your Defense is Jeckle and hide with no pass rush and terrible on third down. Your offense can’t throw deep, run the ball or score TD’s.Your team suck’s that’s what’s tearing it down.
IMO!
December 3rd, 2017 at 10:28 am
He’s a bad coach and he’s about to lose his job if the Glazer’s are smart, I’d be for him staying only if he gave up playcalling because he sucks at that too but he’s too prideful which is why it’ll cost him his job. So long Lovie 2.0
December 3rd, 2017 at 4:30 pm
Just a bad coaching job all around this staff makes way to many mistakes JOE I hope you go with him