Ex-Buc Details Complete Game By Peyton Barber
December 4th, 2017
(Photo courtesy of Tampa Bay Buccaneers)
Joe highly recommends you read these detailed Xs-and-Os quotes from a former Buccaneer breaking down what Peyton Barber accomplished yesterday.
And while you read it, think about how this certainly doesn’t sound like Doug Marin.
The ex-Buc is 12-year NFL veteran Anthony Becht, a stout run blocker in his day. He was on WDAE-AM 620 today and was asked about why Barber found room to run in Green Bay. Was it Barber or the line?
“In the NFL, that’s what it is, you have to have the back who can feel the seams open up and slip through them and make those big runs. Peyton Barber did that,” Becht said. “There were some times where he was patient, he waited, and the holes opened up and the blocks were there. That’s something that hasn’t been consistent when you’re looking at, you know, the backs trusting the linemen. But it looked like Peyton Barber gave them a chance to at least try to do their jobs effectively. And then he went out there and made some plays, you know, he had the cutback, made people miss at the line of scrimmage. [Jacquizz] Rodgers had a nice cutback run that was big in the second half. It’s a mixed bag.
“In the NFL, it’s never really clean in the run game. You got to trust really one or two guys, to either get off the double team, do their job so that that hole creates. Because it’s usually sometimes not there until the back literally gets three steps to the location where it’s supposed to be. He’s reading it presnap, the linemen have to block it. And if it’s not done properly, now you have to become a guy that can make people miss and go get some yards. [Barber] did a nice job of that in the football game when it closed down.”
So well said by Becht. And shame, shame, shame on the Bucs for not giving Barber a shot at being the No. 1 back earlier in the season, instead of sticking with Martin, who hasn’t been impressive for two calendar years.
Becht added that Barber wasn’t just a rusher yesterday. He played a complete game.
“I thought he was effective not only in the run game, he did well in the screen game and he had some crucial pass protections pickups in the game that were impressive in the second half, when we weren’t able to pick it up cleanly for Jameis Winston,” Becht said.
December 4th, 2017 at 4:37 pm
What were Barber’s running yards in the game?
December 4th, 2017 at 4:40 pm
Nevermind, looked it up. 102 running and 41 receiving. Not bad considering the small amount of practice he’s been getting.
December 4th, 2017 at 4:46 pm
I believe barber will do well until he gets one or two game tapes on film and then dc’s will be able to game plan for him.
Then I look at guys like Alvin Kamara and I’m like yea he’d never get past the TB high morality club with that grill and neck tattoos. A non-starter in fact. But wtfdik.
December 4th, 2017 at 4:51 pm
We should have moved on from Martin last year and sent a damn message. He’s simply a terrible running back right now and has been bad for years and was a huge reason the offense sucked last year. Even in his best years he was overrated imo- with only a handful of big games in a season propping up his overall yearly stats; and a TON of bad games even in his best year.
Barber isn’t some elite back at all; but he takes what is there and pushes through contact. Instead of a typical 2-3 yard run if Martin was in there; Barber would get hit and push it for another 2 yards. There were probably like 7-9 runs that were like that – where he gained another 2-3 yards after contact and they weren’t big gains.
Over the course of a game that’s huge. 2nd and 5-6 vs 2nd and 8-9. 3rd and 2-3 yards vs 3rd and long.
Thank god we waited till week 13 to figure this out.
December 4th, 2017 at 4:51 pm
I applauded the way the Bucs handled the Doug Martin suspension. I thought it was a gamble worth taking. You must be critical of him while watching film. While he might have the burst, he’s missing holes. Rodgers hasn’t been much better. Barber showed more yesterday, than he has in his young career with the Bucs. Martin may get into a better system and look good again, but its not going to happen with this one.
If I’m the Bucs, I move on from Martin. Now. Cut him like Stocker. Barber gets the lion share of the carries (he did miss a blocking assignment yesterday that almost got Winston killed btw) Pick up a back off of a practice squad and hope you get a find like Brate.
Just got finished watching the Seahawks vs the Eagles. There were 6 running backs on the field better than our best.
December 4th, 2017 at 4:57 pm
Moving forward….
We keep Barber & Quizz……..I think we should resign Sims if the price is right. He is a good 3rd down back and has great hands & speed.
We should pick up another RB in FA or later in the draft (4th through 7th)
That should suffice.
We desperately need to concentrate on DE & CB early in the draft.
Martin is history.
December 4th, 2017 at 4:59 pm
Did the Bucs not scout Barber, in Auburn he got stronger as the game progressed. We saw Barber average more than any other back on the team last year. Why didn’t that open their eyes. Oh yeah we got Martin nevermind.
December 4th, 2017 at 5:14 pm
@JOE
you were right all along regarding martin….crow ate….GO BUCS!!!!
December 4th, 2017 at 5:17 pm
And how dumb is Koetter for not using Barber at all this season until yesterday?
Bye bye, Koetter…
Bottom line, it’s impossible that we could ever be as optimistic about next season as we were about this season unless we have an entirely new coaching staff.
Think about it, it’s true.
And Jameis deserves at least one chance to prove himself in a different scheme ok r he’s gone after next year too.
December 4th, 2017 at 5:19 pm
*or he’s gone after next season too
December 4th, 2017 at 5:19 pm
They put their chips on Martin, and on a retooled O Line that has blown all season. Hard to swallow pride and admit mistakes, especially as the seat grew hotter all season. My hunch is that the Glazer boys pushed them to start Barber. Clearly DC was not bought in. With an even worse O Line yesterday, the kid looked like he belongs.
Pistol
December 4th, 2017 at 5:24 pm
Agreed and was calling for Barber all damn preseason. 25 haD a major missed block on a crucial 3rd down, but he’ll learn from it.
December 4th, 2017 at 5:53 pm
a plus going forward
December 4th, 2017 at 6:01 pm
People are saying move on from Martin. What about moving on from Evan Smith , the whole dline including friggen mccan’t , all safties exept Evans , put vh3 as backup , get rid of that bum #29 Smith , special teams coach , defensive nator Mike friggen I can’t even stand to look at him since he was coach of falcons Smith and coach kutt…man , our team is bad ! Love the te’s , lb’s and wr’s but not much else man phuck !
December 4th, 2017 at 6:17 pm
I still think this is pretty damning for Koetter. Everyone outside one buc has been asking for Barber, and he would get maybe a couple carries a game. Now that the season is done he plays him and likely only because Martin was out and the guy gives us the best performance we have had in a couple years. I want to know is Koetter just that stubborn, or is he that bad of a talent evaluator, and really had no idea this guy could play?
December 4th, 2017 at 6:20 pm
Jarod
Yeah I get your wish list, but it can’t all happen in one off-season, not possible. I’m all in for just fixing both lines. If we can win both lines of scrimmage it will cover many of our deficiencies.
December 4th, 2017 at 6:46 pm
From a team morale POV, Martin should have been cut, and made an example of.
Or, signed to a work your way back contract.
Instead, we reward him ?
Ask yourself, what kind of message does that send to other Tampa players ?
If I were the Glazers, I would be outraged at Jason for wasting my money on Martin.
I mean Jesus, Barber gave us over 100 yards yesterday, on frozen Tundra.
Imagine had he been used more this season, what our record might have been ?
Coaching is a huge problem too, because on Blitzes, our backs failed to pick it up several times, choosing instead to do that stupid fake hand off into the line, when Matthews was coming.
December 4th, 2017 at 6:55 pm
I thought maybe they would let Barber play after Martin got his typical 36 yds.
December 4th, 2017 at 7:02 pm
I’ve been on the Martin Wagon through this whole thing, but Joe I must admit you were right. Peyton Barber looked awful good yesterday. Hope this isn’t a fluke and maybe Barber can solve our revolving door at RB. Good call Joe 😉
December 4th, 2017 at 7:14 pm
Is this the guy with 1.4 ypc the week before with the same line Martin was running with?
December 4th, 2017 at 7:28 pm
Season is Over
Part of the reason for the low total were 2 very short TD runs….I think both were less than 2 yards.
I may be the only one here but I would like to see if Barber repeats against Detroit Sunday….
December 4th, 2017 at 8:58 pm
He’s not the next Billy Sims but I have been telling you all this for a year and and went as far as to guarantee it ( 4 upcoming and 100 yards)which is hard to do on any given Sunday but I know how bad Martin has become and how cover up clueless Licht and Koetter have become !!! Yes I will say i was right and they were wrong and I’ve said it week in and week out for well over a year !!!
I wouldn’t blame an offensive lineman if they just Bitch slapped Licht or Koetter
December 4th, 2017 at 9:05 pm
4 yards per carry
My keyboard just jams up on this sight and then goes crazy as well as freezes and I literally can’t fix anything , my apologies
December 4th, 2017 at 9:09 pm
With the massive growth in content over the past year or two for JBF, I’m really hoping for a weekly post, podcast and/or YouTube episode with someone who knows how to watch and break down game film.
Maybe it’s not good for possible media agendas, but I’d really appreciate a truly educated view from somelike Becht or Steve White every week.
Think “The Joe Bucs Fan weekly Game Film Breakdown with ___________!”
Let’s go Joes!!!
December 4th, 2017 at 9:16 pm
The Bucs seemed to go away from Barber in the second quarter, even after he was running well. Was that to give him a breather? That play running to the right side was very effective.
December 4th, 2017 at 11:06 pm
When you are losing? Everybody needs to go!! or so says a lot of yas here. We got some good players. Its gotta be the coaching. Namely..pressbox Smitty. But Koetter wanted him. I just don’t think Koetter is right for this job. I never thought he was. And I want less verbalization and more implementation from Rev Jameis.
Every GD post game Conf its..I gotta get better..It was my fault and everybody on this team is..AMAZING. He luvs that word. This team just sucks..to Holy Hell and beyond!! Next up..Detroit. And No..don’t even think..about a Win!!! Not with this Buc team.
December 4th, 2017 at 11:51 pm
Dude, this was against the packer defense, they suck
Packers were allowing 3.8 yards per carry entering the game, better than the NFL average. And they got back Clay Matthews and another member of their front-7 for this game.–Joe
December 5th, 2017 at 12:04 am
Barber did better behind a patchwork OL and Jameis being back for the first time in almost a month. I mean………… Hmmm Seems like coaching stuck with DM22 a bit too long. And LOL not at 813 but congrats for the Eating of Crow. I have eaten it many times and I just hate the feathers in my teeth
December 5th, 2017 at 1:20 am
@DB55
Bucs-morality–not so much
Jameis Winston pick proves that morality is not their concern–even if he didn’t rape anyone –he still did it with a complete stranger who was completely drunk with his buddies watching. And they had no problem with that–made him their franchise. They have no problem with N. Spence getting the boot from Ohio State for molly use.
So not morality but poor scouting was why we are not sitting with Kamara and his golden grille.
December 5th, 2017 at 8:29 am
@Joe
Yeah they may have been allowing 3.8 a carry. But they were also allowing 105 rushing yards per game.
December 5th, 2017 at 9:47 am
Just for the record, most of those holes were right up the centers a$$. Our 3rd string center. This O-line sets up better for the run, simple as that. Couldn’t Pass Pro, that’s for sure. I like Barber but it was because we had better run blockers in the game. Marpet is a great run blocker… as a guard but the move to center for me is an utter failure I don’t care what PFF stats show. The eye test boys and girls. It was subtraction by addition.