“It Usually Means Your Player Has A Pretty Serious Injury”
November 9th, 2017
Talkin’ Jameis.
When Joe read the report yesterday of America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, visiting noted sports surgeon Dr. James Andrews, it sent cold shivers up Joe’s spine.
Of course yesterday, the Bucs tried to downplay it. Jameis said he’s seen the guy before and that may have a kernel of truth to it since Andrews is from Birmingham and that’s the neck of the woods Jameis is from. Perhaps the two have crossed paths at a country club?
As Joe told people yesterday, anyone who throws an object for a living doesn’t go out of their way to see Andrews just to share fishing stories. Athletes don’t visit Andrews for an ingrown toenail. That’s like you don’t go see good friend of Joe and #StickCarrier Dr. David Wenk for a head cold.
Jameis going to see Andrews scared Joe and should scare the hell out of Bucs fans as well.
Last night on “Late Hits,” with co-hosts Alex Marvez and Bill Polian, heard exclusively on SiriusXM NFL Radio, Polian, the Hall of Fame general manager, said Bucs fans should be scared with this news.
Alex Marvez: You have had to deal with Dr. Jameis Andrews with this sort of thing before. Never really good news when someone takes that trip to go see him, is it?
Bill Polian: No, Jimmy Andrews is not a guy you feel good about your guy going to see because he is not a good doctor; he is among the best in the world. But it usually means your player has a pretty serious injury. So it is not a good thing. Now, let’s hope this is only a short-term thing. We have got Andrew Luck, Deshaun Watson and now our next young, bright quarterback potentially off the field for a lengthy period of time. That’s not good for the game.
Now for baseball folks, the name “Dr. James Andrews” is akin to the Grim Reaper because more often than not, in baseball, invoking Andrews’ name often means in the next sentence “Tommy John surgery.” Or it could be a rotator cuff injury. Oddly enough, that’s what former Chargers team doctor and orthopedic surgeon Dr. David Chao speculated was wrong with Jameis when he watched video of Jameis in a recent game.
True Bucs fans should be lighting candles this weekend for Jameis. This is scary stuff and Joe doesn’t think it is over-the-top to suggest the immediate future of the franchise rests both on Jameis’ shoulder and Andrews’ evaluation.
November 9th, 2017 at 11:49 am
Silver lining – a torn rotator cuff isn’t favorable for his future baseball career
November 9th, 2017 at 11:50 am
“Dr. Jameis Andrews” lmao
November 9th, 2017 at 11:53 am
So what I’m reading is: a doctor in California, who did not examine Jameis but only watched a some film of him from one game, determined Jameis had a rotator cuff injury weeks before the Bucs’ doctors, and meanwhile Jameis was still allowed to play?
This organization has become a laughing stock dumpster fire. As the Mad King said, “Burn them all!”
Fire Licht, fire all the coaches, reset the franchise. If we learned anything from the Eagles and Rams this year, franchises can be turned around almost immediately when competent people are in charge. No more wasting time, let’s start the search now.
November 9th, 2017 at 11:53 am
🙂
You know, typing that story, Joe caught himself typing “Jameis” for “Jameis” like four or five times. That was one that got past Joe. Thanks for the catch.
November 9th, 2017 at 11:53 am
“America’s Surgeon”
November 9th, 2017 at 11:55 am
Shut Jameis down for the season, get his health taken care of so that he’s ready to learn an entirely new offense in the off season.
November 9th, 2017 at 11:59 am
Joe caught himself typing “Jameis” for “Jameis” like four or five times.
Get some coffee Joe! J/K, I just like busting your chops. JoeBucsFan.com is by far the best place to get Bucs news. Keep up the great work!
November 9th, 2017 at 12:01 pm
Of course I hope JW doesn’t have a serious injury…but he wasn’t accurate before the injury. To say that all of his problems are injury related isn’t, well, accurate.
November 9th, 2017 at 12:03 pm
@Jmarkbuc
Jameis was literally a top 10 QB in every major statistical category, including completion percentage, before getting his shoulder hurt/ re-hurt.
November 9th, 2017 at 12:04 pm
Thanks for the kind words man!
November 9th, 2017 at 12:05 pm
“… invoking Andrews’ name often means in the next sentence “Tommy John surgery.” In other words, rotator cuff injury.”
Tommy John surgery reconstructs ligament damage in the elbow. Completely different animal. Torn rotator cuff (depending on severity) can be reattached with pins, or rehabbed back via physical therapy.
November 9th, 2017 at 12:06 pm
Jw on ir should be destination number 1. Most importantly, get him away from the loser locker room.
November 9th, 2017 at 12:06 pm
Darn straight jmarkbuc he never has been accurate
November 9th, 2017 at 12:09 pm
2-6 with JW and you’re freaking out as if Bucs record was 8-0. He’ll never be the savior you suggest. Get Gruden and get Cousins at Qb. Trade away JW, Evans (Godwin, if given a chance will be better), GMC, and dump Ayers, Conte, and Martin.
November 9th, 2017 at 12:10 pm
JameisNOT being out may be a very good thing for the Bucs. It will allow us to possibly compete in some games. And, since so many of you think he is such a scholar, it may allow him some extra time to finish his education. Heck, in two weeks he may even be on Dr Andrews staff. He can lick the envelopes on the invoices to be mailed out.
November 9th, 2017 at 12:11 pm
Maybe Dr Jameis Andrews can tweak Jameis’s accuracy ligament also
maybe while he is there, can press the maturity button as well.
November 9th, 2017 at 12:13 pm
Joe wishes he could hit the bottle hard this early in the day just like this. Granted, even the blind can see Doug Martin is done.
November 9th, 2017 at 12:15 pm
i am seeing a pattern from the uneducated jameis bashers… they all live in the past with the BS perception tampa is a defensive town…. tampa is a losing town that had 1 great year yet you same folks keep crying for a failed past when the young stars, evans, winston, kwon, beckwith, godwin, oj all need and deserve NEW and fresh ideas and philosophies not conservative failed approached by failed has been players and coaches that choked more than they won when it matter most in the playoffs…
November 9th, 2017 at 12:18 pm
Give that brain a once over also DOC..
November 9th, 2017 at 12:20 pm
Ding!
November 9th, 2017 at 12:21 pm
the clueless trade gmc crowd needs to wake up. he has ZERO value… let me explain business to you… he has a bloated contract, is having a horrible year, injury prone, proven loser and has quit on multiple coaches. i understand the fanboys led by joe can overlook all this but successful gms would not give up anything higher than a 5th for a soft broken down dt who does not like to or know how to win. Now if gmc was on another team the bucs would gladly give up 2 firsts and a third for a broken down soft loser.
November 9th, 2017 at 12:21 pm
On the bright side Jameis still has time to join the MLB.
November 9th, 2017 at 12:22 pm
Thank you Stav.
November 9th, 2017 at 12:36 pm
The fact that Polian refers to Jameis as “our next young, bright quarterback” is a silver lining out of this. I think Polian is generally very balanced in his opinions and seems to be one of the better talent evaluators out there. Nice to hear a vote of confidence for Jaboo.
November 9th, 2017 at 12:41 pm
need innovative plays!
November 9th, 2017 at 12:44 pm
Hey while Aimless is on the doctor circuit…he should schedule a eye exam with an ophthalmologist
November 9th, 2017 at 12:47 pm
Like Joe said. Get a run game and ands well on offense. But that sorry defense? It might 2 years to rebuild that thing
November 9th, 2017 at 12:48 pm
said this yesterday…its an indictment on the medical staff….
OMG…ITS ANOTHER 813 REPOST!!!!!
813bucboi Says:
November 8th, 2017 at 11:20 am
winston should’ve sat after the ARZ game but dirk was too busy trying to save his job….now he’s trying to ruin the franchise….
good to see winston say enough of this…he should’ve took grimes with him ….what does this say about the team doctors….GO BUCS!!!
November 9th, 2017 at 12:48 pm
Our next draft needs to be all D/O line and 1 CB.
November 9th, 2017 at 12:54 pm
If Jameis is badly injured, that’s more on the medical staff. If they told Koetter to shut Jameis down he would have.
Joe finds it difficult to believe Koetter would risk a potentially career-threatening injury to Jameis for one or two wins. If anything, shelving Jameis gives Koetter a pass. Koetter knows his job is directly tied to Jameis. If he actually did expose Jameis to a bad injury, not only is he fired, but he would have a very hard time finding another job.
Understand folks are anti-Koetter, but he’s not this naive.
November 9th, 2017 at 12:55 pm
813bucboi
jameis should take your boy vh3 with him; maybe andrews can add a foot and some speed. he is a miracle worker after all. obviously he will not be able to fix the immature brain fart celebrations after being toasted but it might buy him another year in the league before he sets off on his future career as a pop warner coach
November 9th, 2017 at 12:56 pm
He got a shot at the combine for his shoulder…ANYONE remember? …this could be chronic and long term or always been there…not good at all 🙁
November 9th, 2017 at 12:57 pm
It’s hilarious that so many people want an Jameis shut down.
He is not going to be magically better next year.
If he has real injury thats fine but all indications are he doesn’t.
Give him 2 weeks off to heal his boo-boo and get his butt back on the field.
November 9th, 2017 at 12:59 pm
813
i see it now in three years clearwater will be all the buzz with Vh3’s midgets taking on Murphy’s little guys in the pop warner bowl….
November 9th, 2017 at 1:04 pm
So you are suggesting there is some sort of conspiracy here that Jameis’ injured shoulder is a orchestrated ruse hatched by Jason Licht and Dirk Koetter to try to cover for a five-game losing streak?
November 9th, 2017 at 1:04 pm
Ironic how anyone with a clue already knows jameis is one of the best young qb’s in football
November 9th, 2017 at 1:06 pm
America’s Surgeon. gulp.
November 9th, 2017 at 1:09 pm
Lavonte and Kwon need to beast it up. Luke Kuechly brings his whole defense up. The guy is like a super computer wrapped up in a tank. Our LBs can do the same with good coaching. The Bucs’ problem is more mental than anything else.
November 9th, 2017 at 1:14 pm
BigMacAttack
what about the senior team captain and highest paid player…. how are lvd and kwon to pickup a defense when the senior captain has set such a great example in loafing and quitting for nearly a decade on multiple staffs. lvd is a good football player but not a leader by any sense of the word. kwon has enough to worry about learning his own position than carrying a defense with such a beastly and out of this world leader in cancer93… no one captains a blowout like cancer93 and no one receives more free rides than cancer93
November 9th, 2017 at 1:15 pm
Lamarcus I can see why you say that but this defense sucks because of scheme and d line. Had hey drafted and lineman and signed Campbell with a different scheme the d is ready to go. It’s evident when you see the difference in Hargreaves once he says forget this soft crap I’m playing up. Dude has been great since one adjustment. This is the worst defense in Bucs history. That’s saying something. Just watch. Gruden coaching the offense and who knows he may actually recruit Rex and say let’s try hitting the QB. Team immediately wins ten games after signing and drafting a dline
November 9th, 2017 at 1:19 pm
Jameis is never going to be a consistent or accurate QB. Ready to move on.
November 9th, 2017 at 1:20 pm
Agree broy34
This has to be the worse I seen in any level of football in quite some time.
November 9th, 2017 at 1:20 pm
“Machine guns” hahaha what a noob. Please go to your local armory and ask to purchase a “machine gun” and let us know how many others laugh at you, or ask you to just leave.
November 9th, 2017 at 1:25 pm
@BucFanFromOH….sorry, i don’t know what you call them or care…we don’t live for acquiring guns here 🙂
November 9th, 2017 at 1:32 pm
C eh N eh D eh
i’d keep the political commentary brief considering half your country does not even claim to be or want to be canadian. are you a frenchy wanna be from the miserable east or a tolerable western canadian.
November 9th, 2017 at 1:35 pm
I was unaware that knowing the proper terminology for different types of firearms meant I “lived for acquiring guns” but w/e. Maybe next time you are trying to insult someone, understand what you are actually saying (and don’t get your panties in a bunch when someone points out your error).
November 9th, 2017 at 1:37 pm
@tmaxcon…Wow, you’re an expert on what 36 million Canadians “think” ? …you should do Vegas with the mind reading skill…Most are very proud of this country, leaders in peace and human progress…a lot of places can’t claim that 🙂
November 9th, 2017 at 1:43 pm
@tmaxcon…you sure sound like a Trump guy…judge someone by where they come from or the colour of their skin
November 9th, 2017 at 1:44 pm
canada is north america’s port o let… more terrorists cross your soft arse borders than Irans… I love vancouver but the rest is useless especially the montreal frenchies.
November 9th, 2017 at 1:45 pm
Omg Joe
Please start charging for access. I’ll happily pay a sub if it means weeding some of these idiots out of here.
November 9th, 2017 at 1:51 pm
DB55
knowing joe he will hire dotson and gmc to moderate the paid forums.
November 9th, 2017 at 1:53 pm
@tmaxcon….I’m done, not arguing with your stupid, racist, brainwashed comments…go back to your TV and guns, bud 🙂
November 9th, 2017 at 1:56 pm
C eh N eh D eh
dont put words in my mouth pansy… i have never mentioned color…. the canadian hating wannabe frenchies have tried to succeed multiple times so calm down darling and pull your skirt back up….
November 9th, 2017 at 2:02 pm
tmaxcon is not a racist. maybe a tool sometimes, we are all. but please stop throwing the “R” word around. It looses meaning for the real racists out there.
November 9th, 2017 at 2:07 pm
Everyone that has a different opinion than your own in 2017:
That’s racist!
I’m offended!
You’re stupid!
November 9th, 2017 at 2:07 pm
@Dewey Selmon….but, but, he called me a “Snowflake” LOL
November 9th, 2017 at 2:08 pm
@Joe your LT 76 is what is killing Jameis. Its time you get rid of turnstile 76
November 9th, 2017 at 2:22 pm
i make no bones about being a brutally honest prick who can be an ahole but i am no racist… i hate most of you fools equally. lol.
it’s a big problem in this world that a weak and soft society has taken words like racist and bigot and rendered them worthless. those words that used to carry significant meaning are nothing more than a go to world for people who can’t handle reality.
November 9th, 2017 at 2:32 pm
If I am not mistaken, Jameis had some type of arm issue before his draft. Tied arm or something along those lines. The injury is not good but to sit a while and watch may be good for James. I don’t think he has missed a game after being thrown in there his draft year
November 9th, 2017 at 2:32 pm
What a messy franchisae. Hiding the truth. Even Stevie Wonder could see Jameis was hurt early in the season. Koetter plyed him in hopes jameis could save the day and his career. He was and is wrong. Shut Jameis down for the remainder of the season. Let him have that syrgery so he will be ready come spring time. But they won’t. Watch Jameis come back in 2 games and even further damage that shoulder. You were not going to win with your Defense anyways Koetter. Rumor has it Boise State gonna have an opening next yr. Prime Spot for Koetter. NEXT!!!!!!!!!!
November 9th, 2017 at 2:33 pm
Tmax you are a moron. Cancer to all Bucs fans.
November 9th, 2017 at 2:42 pm
Unless something has radically changed in a handful of weeks, the Bucs have zero plans on replacing Donovan Smith. Given the offensive line crises in the NFL, replacing Smith very likely would mean his successor would be the next Ereck Flowers.
November 9th, 2017 at 2:42 pm
tmax
we’ll see how he plays next year under the new HC and his defense….GO BUCS!!!
November 9th, 2017 at 2:52 pm
What is up with Kwon?. Missed the beginning of the season with that lingering injury from training camp. He hasn’t looked like himself even after returning to the lineup.
I can’t help but wonder what Kwon’s health is like.
November 9th, 2017 at 3:15 pm
move d.smith to LOG and pamphile to LT….GO BUCS!!!!
November 9th, 2017 at 3:56 pm
wewantgruden Says :
“And, since so many of you think he is such a scholar”
Not think. Know. His grades in high school and college say so.
Much higher GPA than you could even dream about having yourself.
November 9th, 2017 at 3:56 pm
tmaxcon Says:
November 9th, 2017 at 12:15 pm
“i am seeing a pattern from the uneducated jameis bashers… they all live in the past with the BS perception tampa is a defensive town…. tampa is a losing town that had 1 great year yet you same folks keep crying for a failed past when the young stars, evans, winston, kwon, beckwith, godwin, oj all need and deserve NEW and fresh ideas and philosophies not conservative failed approached by failed has been players and coaches that choked more than they won when it matter most in the playoffs…”
Correct we have a winner….Dilly Dilly!!!!
November 9th, 2017 at 3:58 pm
wewantgruden…
$100 bucks says Gruden won’t be the next coach of the Bucs.
November 9th, 2017 at 4:03 pm
Jameis is going to be fine. I will say James hasn’t taken the “leap” many of us expected him to. With that being said his statistics were up in almost every category. His trajectory as a QB is still going up every year, but there are inconsistencies on a week to week basis.
If he continues to work his butt off as he has been reported to be then I dont see why this trajectory and improvement cannot continue (for as long as he plays). People want instant gratification nowadays but this isn’t a
November 9th, 2017 at 4:08 pm
***but this isn’t something you want to rush to judgement. This is potentially our first franchise QB and I’m not stupid enough to let another one of those go.
Relax people Jameis is not the main problem here. Coaches are not doing their jobs in putting players in position to succeed and that extends to every position.
J ameis will never reach most of your exoectations because most of the uninformed bucs fans want perfection but fail to realise no QB is perfect or hits all their throws.
November 9th, 2017 at 6:57 pm
Baker Mayfield
November 10th, 2017 at 1:57 am
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BUC1987,
Don’t be too hard on “celler dueler” aka “Wewantgruden” … he’s “as dumb as a bag of hammers” and you know all carpenters take their one good nail and a big ole bag filled with hammers, to hammer that one good nail down at each and every job, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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November 10th, 2017 at 4:20 am
It seems so clear that this team has no fire, no urgency, no confidence
That is 100000% on the coaches
You must make examples of slackers, not coddle them – fat baker
The players know when u are in over ur head and they just finish burying you
November 10th, 2017 at 8:37 am
So, I guess my question is, did Winston’s pitching career aggravate tor weaken his rotator cuff where a hit from a LB/DE would tear it?