Jason Licht Talks Jameis Pain
November 12th, 2017
The GM speaks
Hey, the Buccaneers are 3-6. But what does the record look like if America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, didn’t get injured?
Fans and media will never have an answer to that question, obviously, but Tampa Bay general manager Jason Licht did offer a clue or two today on just how much Jameis suffered through part of this season.
Licht didn’t talk about specific games and timelines, but the GM delivered heartfelt praise for Jameis’ toughness and pain tolerance before today’s choking out of the Jets at the Stadium on Dale Mabry Highway.
Speaking on the Buccaneers Radio Network, Licht was very clear that Jameis played through a high level of pain and that Jameis’ pain tolerance is beyond that of most NFL players. Jameis, per Licht, was a true standout warrior through this shoulder injury.
Licht added that the timeline for Jameis’ return is open-ended and is all about him getting healthy, per the Bucs’ team of doctors, not about Jameis’ burning desire to get on the field immediately.
Joe detected a little optimism for Jameis’ return in Licht’s voice, but that’s just Joe reading between lines.
Long after today’s game, Joe talked to Jameis, who was sporting a fiery, burnt orange blazer. Joe told Jameis to feel better, feel good. Jameis said, “I do.”
November 12th, 2017 at 8:32 pm
And you guys allowed him to play through that horrible pain and injury. Pretty f*c%ing smart Jason.
November 12th, 2017 at 8:34 pm
Get a clue SOE, NFL players have to play through pain, quarterbacks especially. This isn’t the Girl Scouts.
November 12th, 2017 at 8:38 pm
Jamies is a good dude
November 12th, 2017 at 8:41 pm
Yeah Vic is right!! Get out of here you little wimps crying about Winston pain. Deep down inside…..you know it and I know it………If this team had a playoff game Jamies would be out there fighting.
Now he needs to heal up and get his ass back on the field and show us he is good enough to get us to a playoff game.
November 12th, 2017 at 8:47 pm
It would look the same
November 12th, 2017 at 8:50 pm
How about the GM not stroke his ego any more?
MOre pain tolerance than most NFL players? Give me a break. Brett Farve and Ben Rothlensburger both won games liming around on broken ankles.
Besides, how does it help the kid to grow to compliment him for losing while hurt instead of sitting and allowing a healthy QB Fitz to game manager a win.
November 12th, 2017 at 8:51 pm
I am so tired of hearing about NFL players pain. I have had my shoulder completely reconstructed twice from construction related accidents. I had to work through torn rotator cuff labrum tear and bone spurs in my shoulder all the while. I had to have my knee completely reconstructed from tearing my patellar tendon and have my ACL and my meniscus. About a month after wearing a tube sock is a brace I ended up shattering my kneecap. Through all the tour like events I was still walking around and working and getting through it. These injuries aren’t nearly as dramatic as these pre-Madonna’s make them out to be. We are bones and ligaments and blood and mostly water. If someone were to have given me millions of dollars to play through the pain I would have. Because guess what two out of three of those injuries or Worker’s Comp. and I got about $15,000 and a surgery after about three years of work and litigation. Guess what it’s still effing hurts but I keep working
November 12th, 2017 at 8:56 pm
The drama continues. Why the “I do”? Him being tough guy?
November 12th, 2017 at 9:02 pm
HAHAHAHA……..Buc’n A is over here basically wearing a full body cast while busting his ass at work and the Buc players are soaking up the tub massaging away the pain while sucking on ice chips.
November 12th, 2017 at 9:15 pm
Licht’s Out hanging on by a string and lining up his alibis. Will he survive?
November 12th, 2017 at 9:23 pm
jonbuc exactly, licht needs to pack sand….winston playing this year wont matter
November 12th, 2017 at 9:24 pm
Lets admit it out loud. Qb’s drafted after Mr.Winston have been more accurate and rated higher then your fav player on the bucs . As of now is he not the worst qb in bucs own division?
November 12th, 2017 at 9:46 pm
Nice win by Mariota today, that’s 4 in a row.
November 12th, 2017 at 9:59 pm
Way to go jason and Koetter. Jmeis has a tremendous pain threshold. So you say..Go ahead and play until that shoulder drops son!! Now you’re gonna rest him huh. I tell yas what..let the guy have his surgery. that way he can heal and you can say..we lost because Jameis was not here. Thus buying yourselves another yr here. And who knows..Fitz might win a few. he certainly does not get rattled and he hangs in there.
November 12th, 2017 at 10:12 pm
Get a clue Vic. We lost five games in a row with Jameis starting before today. He fell badly on that same shoulder every week after the original too.
November 12th, 2017 at 10:15 pm
Mike………Jamies Winston wanted to play in all those games. And I bettcha he wanted to be playing today.
Your comment was quite lame.
November 12th, 2017 at 10:20 pm
Buc’n A needs to start drinking some vitamins.
I don’t recall a QB play with a bad throwing shoulder, whether or not he can tolerate the pain or not. Good GM’s wouldn’t jeopardize their franchise like that.
November 12th, 2017 at 10:23 pm
Come on SOE……..You are telling this guy to get a clue about playing though pain?? Haven’t you every looked at an injury report before a game? Heck all you have to do is tune into the pregame show and they flash hundred of injured players names across the scoreboard……Hundreds of injured plaeyers that are playing that day.
Playing through pain is part of the game Vic was right. If you are going to blame the coachs for playing him then please provide any info stateing that Winston was badly injured and was risking his career. Because otherwise nobody ever said Winston was risking any damage by playing, except maybe some silly fans.
November 12th, 2017 at 11:01 pm
Jason’s job depends on Jameis’ s success or failure, so he will promote and enable him anytime he can.
November 12th, 2017 at 11:04 pm
Ya, I think our record would be 3-6 regardless of Jameis being injured or not.
The defense laying down complemented by Jameis’ inaccuracy (the same we saw last year) spells the same kind of season to me.
November 12th, 2017 at 11:16 pm
SuperSam, I’m sick and tired of fans like you…. get out of here. ‘ Mariota 4 wins in a row’ go be a Titans fan , this is a team sport, not a one player sport. Who cares about a player we don’t have and will never have. Its so irrelevant just like your comment. Go bucs.
November 12th, 2017 at 11:23 pm
Question I have is was Jameis playing ,the best thing for the team.Gotta say no because he was knocked out of two games and his play was not that good.
Starting to sound like Jameis was the one pushing to play.
November 12th, 2017 at 11:24 pm
SMH…not a clue…
No wimpy whiners on this here board just big strong…pain tolerant football WATCHERS!
GIVE ME A BREAK!
November 12th, 2017 at 11:25 pm
@JimmyJack
Could be wrong but I have a real big idea that this team especially doesn’t tell the truth or “provide info stateing that Winston badly injured.” Never said it was career ending. All I know was I saw with my own eyes Jameis continue to go down hill and on that shoulder every week after the first time he went down.
November 12th, 2017 at 11:35 pm
Sounds like Licht is trying to spin it, to save his sorry azz!
November 12th, 2017 at 11:35 pm
I believe Jameis would’ve had a great game if he played. But he didn’t and we still won. Let’s hope he gets better and we have that 7 win streak:…. hopefully. A man can dream!
November 12th, 2017 at 11:56 pm
the idiot touting Mariota is truly one of a kind. The most important element of any football team is the head coach, not any one player, not even any group of players. Show me a team that wins all the time and one that loses all the time, and I will guarantee you it has EVERYTHING to do with the head coach and not who the respective QBs are.
Winston should not have been playing with one arm for 3 weeks in a row. We all saw a huge drop-off in his overall production after the injury. Jameis’ only real issue football-wise is that he doesn’t understand the importance of the short, quick passing game, and that may have as much to do with our offensive philosophy as anything he’s not doing.
November 13th, 2017 at 7:46 am
DalvinTheBeast: If Mariota played behind this Buc O-line he would very likely be on the IR. Guy has missed numerous games in his short career and if you listen to Titan fans; he is not exactly tearing it up in Nashville but like Blake Bortles in Jacksonville he is not losing games anymore due to the coaching philosophies that are not in North Florida and TN which rely on smashmouth D, a running game and simply being tough…. Winston probably played through a lot of pain and if GM Licht is trying to line that up as an excuse to avoid a pink slip come January, well that could backfire as the Winston injury could be directly tied to the fact that the Bucs OL as amazingly soft exposing Winston to hits ala David Carr as well as putting Winston in countless comeback, deep deficit situations due to the neglect of this defense and forcing the Bucs to go all in on the pass and turn Winston into a pinata….. Maybe Licht finds another scapegoat: the coaching staff looks as good as anyone to point fingers at if he is going to try and deflect blame from his abysmal draft/FA record so far…
November 13th, 2017 at 8:54 am
That’s interesting. Until I read this all the talk was that Jameis would be back in two weeks. Now there isn’t a timeline. This sounds more to me like a preemptive strike to setup the story that Jameis will be sidelined for the rest of the season.
You can be sure it would be two weeks if the Bucs were 4-4 going into the game.
November 13th, 2017 at 8:57 am
Completely agreed. He’s setting up the narrative on the season.
November 13th, 2017 at 9:18 am
lets get a little over the whole “play with pain, you get paid” line when it comes to a qb. Just like a rb can’t plant and run with turf toe, a qb needs the throwing shoulder. Jameis’ numbers have been off since the injury. His accuracy is not there. If you have an injury that alters the strength or mechanics of a throw you go from being a good nfl qb to not good enough to make the throws. Its about the ability to be perfect, and sometimes an injury keeps that from happening. Of course he is tough. Everyone in the nfl is tough.
November 13th, 2017 at 11:55 am
For all you macho men that feels an injured QB should play with pain, you do it. Why even have a veteran backup QB in your roster then? Is he only expected to play if Jamesis dies on the field? Get real. I’d rather take the chance of winning one or two of those games while Jamesis heals than lose all of them just so Jamesis can show all you stud-muffins how big his Johnson is.
November 13th, 2017 at 12:07 pm
There was no risk to Lichts future by playing a hurt Winston. If he won those games then we are on our way to the playoffs…job secure. Being that we lost he can now blame the fact that Winston was hurt in an effort to save his job. Sitting him and losing, especially when Winston said he was able to play would have been career suicide for Licht.
Let’s face it. Licht is focused on saving his ass right now. The worst thing that can happen to him is that we play 500 ball with Fitz. Losing too many more than that means he was right. Job safer! Winning too many more means that you can draft a kicker with your second pick and still be successful. Job safest!
Best case scenario. Jameis comes back, continues to suck and we are on our way to a high draft pick with a new GM. Rebuilding 35 out of 40 years. Same ol Bucs
November 13th, 2017 at 12:12 pm
When u give up a second round pick for a kicker that’s sitting at home you should be sitting with him
November 13th, 2017 at 12:30 pm
JimmyJack..Thats why we have coaches and medical staff. They, not the players make the decisions. Jameis wants to play every game. He’s not healthy. Its the head coaches responsibility to tell him. No, you are not playing period until that shoulder heals. Now sit you A.s on the bench. You JimmyJack sir, are the idiot!