Jameis To Miss At Least Two Games
November 6th, 2017
Ever listen to The ScuttleBucs podcast here at JoeBucsFan.com?
Co-host Jeff Cameron of ESPN Tallahassee is a friend of America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston. And Cameron is Twittering this morning that Jameis will be out a minimum of two weeks with his shoulder injury.
That’s good news, because longer would mean a more serious injury. It’s also good news because it means Jameis will heal.
The bad news is Ryan Fitzpatrick will start against the surprisingly physical and hungry Jets, as well as in Miami against the Dolphins’ ferocious defensive line.
Expect the Bucs to activate QB Ryan Griffin from injured reserve this week, as he becomes eligible after going on IR in preseason.
November 6th, 2017 at 12:13 pm
Good. He needs to sit for both mental and physical reasons. I can’t believe I’m starting to doubt him and Mike Evans.
November 6th, 2017 at 12:15 pm
please let us see some RG1
November 6th, 2017 at 12:15 pm
The McCown v Fitzpatrick double revenge game is gonna be hype AF tho….
November 6th, 2017 at 12:16 pm
Best news I’ve heard all day. Jameis needs to spend some time watching, seriously I think watching another players approach will help. Now if I hear Barber will take over as our starting running back for the rest of the season that would help too. This team needs a shake up, some players need to be benched, call it an injury if you want.
November 6th, 2017 at 12:16 pm
Hasnt Jameis miss the last 6 already?
High and behind
November 6th, 2017 at 12:17 pm
Great…my one game a year traveling from NC and no Jameis & possibly no Evans…..funny thing is, I think we might win this game…..if for no other reason than to set up a QB controversy.
November 6th, 2017 at 12:19 pm
I will not go far as to doubt him and skill level. The team is trash so evryone looks like trash.
Jw is one of the better qbs in the league. With that said JW is experiencing something that is not healthy to a developing qb and man. This will kill his mojo if he continues to get hosed week in and out. Jw needs to be inactive for the rest of year
November 6th, 2017 at 12:19 pm
Thank goodness! I’ve been saying for weeks they’re going to lose with or without him so let him fully heal and focus on being ready for next year.
November 6th, 2017 at 12:22 pm
the reason for Jameis getting shoulder dived into the turf every game needs to be investigated and the player responsible should be benched/made to get better
November 6th, 2017 at 12:23 pm
Cant defend Jameis BS yesterday but he sems to have been off since he hurt his shoulder a few weeks back and has been struggling but that has nothing to do with him missing the deep ball constatntly
November 6th, 2017 at 12:26 pm
Uh ooooh
November 6th, 2017 at 12:29 pm
He should be suspended for starting that fight!
November 6th, 2017 at 12:29 pm
He should be suspended for starting that fight!
November 6th, 2017 at 12:34 pm
I wish we had more players who started fights. I wish we had less snow flakes offended by fckn football players fighting. But then again maybe that’s why the Bucs have sucked so bad for so long too many choir boys and choir boy fans.
See: Lagarrette Blount, Talib, and a slew of others.
This isn’t gymnastics folks. Smfh
November 6th, 2017 at 12:34 pm
Famous Jameis was never a pinpoint passer. He just had the “It” factor. Now, with an arthritic shoulder, it’s the s*it factor. He needs to sit. This season is already past the smelly, hairy turd level. Concentrate on next season and keep players that actually give a s*it !
November 6th, 2017 at 12:39 pm
He shouldn’t have been in position to start the fight, Buccaneer Scotty. You can’t let an opposing defender come over to your sideline and start taunting and talking trash. Someone needed to stand up for the team and put Lattimore in his place. It just shouldn’t have been Jameis. The fact that it was tells you everything you need to know about the team’s leadership.
JE has played poorly this season for the most part. That said, he’s obviously been hurt the last few games and it showed in his performance. He’s been put in a bad position having to lead the team at 23. Frankly, he doesn’t have the success or experience (I.e., credibility) to do it effectively. IMO, the biggest reason to replace Koetter is to bring in a stronger personality who can replace Jameis and Kwon as the true “alpha dog” of the team while the young guys continue to learn and develop. You can’t lead effectively when you are hurt or struggling. Both have been hurt and have struggled this season, which is to be expected a ton this stage in their career.
November 6th, 2017 at 12:44 pm
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Everyone knows I believe in JW and believe JW will be a HOF’er … HOWEVER, if the Bucs shelve him for the year or even if he continues to play hurt and they do happen to earn the #4 pick behind the Browns, 49’ers and Giants, at worst one of the top four QBs (Darnold, Allen, Rosen and Jackson) will be available and the Bucs will have an interesting decision to make *if* they fire Koetter as expected and have a new regime in place.
Let’s say they sign Jim Harbaugh and give him complete control … he may want to either draft a rookie QB or sign a free agent without losing any players or picks and trade Jameis to an AFC team like the Jets or Broncos for a boatload of picks to re-stack this sorry roster … or he can trade that #4 pick to a team like the Jets for a boatload of picks and ride with Jameis.
Personally I think if Gruden or Arians is the coach they will absolutely want Jameis … and if Patricia gets hired, Licht will be the guy who hires him and he will be staying as GM and Jameis will also be staying … however, what if the team cleans house and gives a guy like Harbaugh the keys to the kingdom?
If I was a GM, I’d take Jameis’ future over any other QB in the NFL … but even I couldn’t blame Harbaugh if he convinced the Glazers to sign Kirk Cousins and then traded Jameis to the Jets for the, say, #6 pick, a 2nd, a 3rd and a 2019 #1 … and then draft Saqon Barkley at #4 and Bradley Chubb at #6 and added a RT with the extra 2nd rounder and another DE with the extra 3rd rounder.
Interesting times ahead for Bucs fans … and Jameis fans like me!
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November 6th, 2017 at 12:44 pm
They should contact Peyton Manning and have Jameis go spend a couple weeks on his couch, talking about how to be an effective field general and leader, not some wild maniac licking his fingers and screaming nonsense.
This roster is a mess right now and purges must be made, but Jameis is the most important player and he has got to improve in every facet of his game.
This franchise cannot allow Jameis to fail and fade away into mediocrity.
Go Sucs!!!
#lichtmyb*lls
November 6th, 2017 at 12:45 pm
With Jaboo out, who will eat the W’s?
November 6th, 2017 at 12:48 pm
Hood rats! Play good ball and beat someone and they will have nothing to run there mouth about!!!!
November 6th, 2017 at 12:49 pm
If Fitz leads the Bucs to a touchdown on his first drive, I’m going to laugh and cry at the same time.
November 6th, 2017 at 12:51 pm
You know GMC got a lot of sh1t for his pregame speech last year. I almost wonder if some of these guys are tuning Jameis out at this point. That things where he was deepthroating his fingers and claiming he was eating Ws yesterday was downright cringe worthy. I heard Michael Clayton say the Brooks told him a while ago to tone that stuff down. If your franchise is acting like a wacky maniac right before kick off I am not sure that is instilling confidence in the team.
November 6th, 2017 at 12:54 pm
Nflnut
Love your post! I say this if Harbaugh does bring in another q.v. and let’s jw go his first mistake would be to not have a competition. If he allows the new q.v. to compete and they win then awesome unlikely but awesome.
But just giving the job to a new q.v. would put us right back to square 1.
November 6th, 2017 at 12:58 pm
JMarkBuc Says:
November 6th, 2017 at 12:15 pm
Top crazy things posters here say:
1. Winston is a franchise QB. Nope. Even if you throw out his ridiculous pre game speeches, the man can’t accurately throw the football. Quarterbacks throw footballs, to their guys, in stride, where it can be caught. Winston is a cheerleader and not a good one. Leadership and cheerleadership are not the same thing.
2. Trade Winston. While I’m not against the idea, who in the hell would give you anything in a trade. If some crazy fool wanted to take a chance on him they would just wait for his release. Another overall #1 Bucs draft pick that is an unmitigated bust. IMO, JW has been a coddled athlete with marginal talent his whole life. Charismatic, yes and that’s what got him through high school and 2 yrs of college. But this the NFL. I think he’s already peaked. Ironic that he plays the preacher man, considering his less than virtuous character issues, and immaturity.
3. Get a 1st and 3rd for McCoy. OK just LMAO on that one.
4. Gruden! Gruden!. While Gruden did coach this team to a SB, his ego also ran Rich McKay out of town, so he and buddy Bruce Allen could destroy it. We are still paying to this day . The man has a super sized ego already. Do you think walking by a statue of himself everyday at one Buc is going to shrink that ego ? What you will get is Napolean. Now if Rich McKay wants to come back and be GM and keep him straight….but not gonna happen.
5. Keep this staff. Seriously? Keeping this staff just because we change coaches too often? WTF, they have lost this team because they can’t coach or GM.
6. Licht has done a good job? Where? We have marginal talent ( and none on Oline or Dline ) no depth at all. Looks to me like he’s running a summer camp. With someone else’s money.
Been a Bucs fan from the very beginning , and always will be. Doesn’t mean I can’t see the forest or the trees. This staff is done, and so is a large part of this team.
Derrick Brooks for GM. Dungy, president of football operations. Start with those two and things begin to change immediately. However, I don’t imagine they want to be within 100 miles of this dumpster fire.
November 6th, 2017 at 1:00 pm
The good ship “Bucs 17” is sinking fast. Time to call for a new teammate to bring some competence and desire into the offense.
I have and will continue to call for hiring Colin K. Let’s not pull a Miami and end up with a retread QB like Jay “McPouty” who is a team spirit, buzz-kill and a disaster.
Look, I’m so disappointed in the Bucs that I can’t even play Madden football anymore. I dropped big paper to follow the Bucs via NFL Sunday Ticket.
Colin K. will salvage the season by taking pressure off the OL with timely scrambles to avoid 3 and outs and an arm big enough to hit downfield targets on the run.
ATC, Jameis needs time to truly heal. Fitzpatrick is a mini spare tire. And, Griffin will be cannon fodder with no hope of giving the offense a lift.
Bring in Colin K for a tryout and start working on an offense that will highlight his skills instead of dooming him to failure by trying to plug him into the current scheme. Let’s see what Koetter can do with a different type of QB talent beyond a stiff in the pocket waiting for slow targets to (never) get open.
November 6th, 2017 at 1:02 pm
So you’re saying we have a chance?
November 6th, 2017 at 1:03 pm
Been a Bucs fan from the very beginning
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I’ve you’ve ever said this do yourself a favor and go to the skyway bridge now and lean over the sides to get a good look at the fishies. Lean all the way over. Please lort got please help them find their way to the skyway. PLEASE!!!!
November 6th, 2017 at 1:04 pm
NFLNUT
ive been saying jim harbaugh since the ARZ game….I think he would be the perfect fit….he would take on that leadership role and embraces it so that Winston evans kwon can just focus on playing ball….
I think harbaugh would keep Winston, trade the #4 or #5 pick along with GMC for more picks….
all I know is, he came to a lousy 9ers team and had them playing like their hair was on fire….they had a very good defense and a great run game…..2 things that we are currently lacking….
but your right….interesting times ahead….GO BUCS!!!!
November 6th, 2017 at 1:05 pm
Get healed up young man.
Somebody better get to work to fix this mess! It is becoming increasingly difficult to watch.
November 6th, 2017 at 1:10 pm
Good.
The season is officially toast. He has looked tentative and apprehensive. Let him sit, watch, study, regroup, and maybe stop giving retarded pre game speeches when he does come back.
November 6th, 2017 at 1:10 pm
Mo_downs
Bless yo heart young man. Bless you.
You know darn well the entire group of “real fans since the very beginning” would all fall over and keel if they even saw Kap at TIA. There heads would spontaneously combust. There tractor trailers would stop working and their a r 15s would be lubed to the hilt.
Although it would be the best option and one I have called on before myself consider where you are and if you don’t understand go take a drive on I-75 just north of I-4. Thanks for the laugh though that was good.
November 6th, 2017 at 1:11 pm
Bucsfanman
did you enjoy captain blowouts performance yesterday. loaf after loaf he represented the team and organization well especially being a team captain. how many more regimes does the losing culture destroy and how many more years do we get to rebuild .
Jamarc
bucs tried living in the past with the failed lovie smith pr stunt. dungy has a career losing playoff record and chokes when it matters most how is that going to take the bucs to the next level. Living in the past is ridiculous. They need real football people not underachieving failed stars of the past…
November 6th, 2017 at 1:15 pm
@joe
was it the doctors call…or glazers call?…..
we know dirk aint smart enough to sit Winston….he made him throw almost 40 times last week and was on pace for another 35+ attempts with a bum shoulder…..how about running barber 30+ times….GO BUCS!!!
November 6th, 2017 at 1:15 pm
Jameis should sit on the bench for that bizarre pregame rant sucking his fingers, as well as for putting those same fingers on the back of Lattimore’s head as Lattimore was walking away from him. He cost his friend Evans, who must not have noticed that Winston instigated the fight. Not good leadership in any way shape or form.
November 6th, 2017 at 1:20 pm
The Real Jameis Returned….phony …fraud….inaccurate passer…you know his history….got run out of FSU and Tallahassee
November 6th, 2017 at 1:25 pm
The Glazers was spotted at Walmart
They purchase Ajax, Bleach
Brooms, Mops, Brillo Pads
Seems like, they are planning some serious house cleaning
No one is expendable
Rid the organization of the bums
From the GM down to the ballboy
November 6th, 2017 at 1:27 pm
Bucster
Ur right. Who is going to eat Ws for this team. A struggling Jw is still perhaps our best player still and says alot about those other guys
November 6th, 2017 at 1:28 pm
Fitz is way better then Jameis. Good news !
November 6th, 2017 at 1:29 pm
A lot of you so called fans should turn to the Legends of Football league, although they maybe too violent for your sensitivities too.
November 6th, 2017 at 1:32 pm
I can see Fitz winning this game this weekend and we will have ourselves a Controversy.
November 6th, 2017 at 1:34 pm
it’s funny the same jameis bashers with agendas are the same ones that would be happy if the team was 0-16 every year with a pathetic member of the dungy coaching shrub running a conservative zone scheme with NO offense. so let’s bring back a dungy philosophy that underachieved and could never finish. great defense but a bad team with a one dimensional leader. Way to raise the bar by bringing back previous failed coaches and players. stupid simply stupid. you are also the same fools that think dungy’s 2 playoff wins in 6 years are glory years. laughable.
November 6th, 2017 at 1:35 pm
My pretend GM idea would be to let him sit and watch Fitzs approach just like Conte Pis had mentioned……But I would not let Jamies take another snap until he has a team surrounding him that competes at a pro level…….If that means we have to bench some of our better players then so be it.
Say what you want about Winston but he plays with a ton of heart.
November 6th, 2017 at 1:35 pm
SB Says:
November 6th, 2017 at 1:32 pm
I can see Fitz winning this game this weekend and we will have ourselves a Controversy
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How? He threw for 68 yards in a half of football and no bum shoulder. How do you see that? Or are you just remaining positive?
November 6th, 2017 at 1:37 pm
Just shut it down for the season ! Goodness ! Heal up properly and get a view from the sideline that may just help JW game next year . This team has imploded and personnel changes are a must ! You can not trot out this same pile of dung next year , they have already proven their worth . Glazers have a tough task ahead this off season !
November 6th, 2017 at 1:41 pm
I got disrupted before I could could finish……………Winston has a ton of heart. I think it’s unfair for him to be out with playe s who have given up(they know who they are) and don’t have there QBs back.
November 6th, 2017 at 1:43 pm
Tmax…….Did you hear Romo the other night admiring Dungys coaching tree? It was a very knowledgable highlight during that game.
November 6th, 2017 at 1:43 pm
i am convinced the glazers will never do the right thing or are completely incapable of doing the right thing. They have not made many solid decisions since daddy got sick. rip malcom thanks for getting rid of the one dimensional career playoff loser and bringing us our only glory year.
gruden was far from perfect and should never be allowed to buy groceries therefore he will NEVER return to tampa. He will NOT take a position that he does not run the entire show and he failed at running the entire show.
bucs need a real president of football operations not some ex player or failed coach from the past. they need a forward thinker not has been with tired philosophies.
November 6th, 2017 at 1:49 pm
Maxi pad
More important than 2 playoff wins was the fact that Dungy brought respectability to the laughing stock of the NFL. Most of our second string could have started for many teams. It was the real deal.
I would take some respectability and a deep talented team right now.
Ironic that Dungy won his SB with an offensive team.
November 6th, 2017 at 1:50 pm
Tmax
You may now drop the mic. Nothing more needs to be said. That was exactly perfecto
November 6th, 2017 at 1:51 pm
Jameis,needs a straight jacket!!
November 6th, 2017 at 1:52 pm
Tmax you are a sore loser bro…….I understand because so am I but I have worked on that. SUGGESTION….You need to fix it if it extends beyond this message board it will cause problems for you.
November 6th, 2017 at 2:02 pm
jimmyjack
i appreciate your concern. i am just fine… sorry I can’t sugar coat BS just to feed the blind optimists who have lost complete touch with reality….
Jamark
dungy failed. he did not get the job done. the only respect that matters is the lombardi trophy. manning won despite dungy and his failed post season philosophy.
November 6th, 2017 at 2:07 pm
jmark
dungy’s career losing playoff record proves when it matter most he choked and could not get the job done. one of the greatest sales jobs of all time to get a one dimensional coach with a career losing playoff record in the hall of fame. hall of fame used to be for the best of the best not overrated nice guys who could not get the job done when it matter most. hall lost a lot of credibility when dungy was enshrined before Tom Flores
November 6th, 2017 at 2:08 pm
Ryan Fitzpatrick is getting a bad rep from how unimpressive he looked in training camp how stupid is that. He scored a touchdown Sunday which Winston couldn’t do then put up 33 I’m his game before that so as bad as Winston has played don’t start bashing the backup before he had a chance to play a full game. That’s funny since you call out Winston like a running joke that no one should take seriously. I for one think the team will be glad they don’t have to hear that childish alphabet soup speech and we’ll see what the adults in the room will do since we all know Winston will be around even if the coaches won’t
November 6th, 2017 at 2:14 pm
Yall are a bunch of weirdos
November 6th, 2017 at 2:14 pm
Oh Maxi,
No opinion on Tom Flores. It’s all moot anyway. Dungy isn’t getting anywhere near this. Just sayin, the minute he’s in the building we get respectability. Doesn’t have to be coach. He’ll, he could get hired to the lunchroom and we would have 1000% more credibility than we do now.
And the uniforms are ugly.
November 6th, 2017 at 2:16 pm
Not there yet
the adults in the room captained by cancer93 and lvd have spent their entire careers in the basement so maybe a little childish passion is needed obviously captain choirboys can not lead anything but heartless blowouts.
November 6th, 2017 at 2:17 pm
firethecannons Says:
the reason for Jameis getting shoulder dived into the turf every game needs to be investigated and the player responsible should be benched/made to get better
That would be Donovan Smith. The way Smith has played LT, he might as well just turn around after the snap and tackle Winston violently himself. D Smith needs to slide inside at LG or go bye bye. He is just not good enough. It’s become our #1 position of need in the draft.
November 6th, 2017 at 2:22 pm
Cmurda
#1 holes to fill
De
RB
LT
DL
OL
CB
S
So many holes, so little time (or draft picks)
November 6th, 2017 at 2:26 pm
We now have a chance to win with JameisNOT gone. I hope he NEVER plays a NFL snap again.
November 6th, 2017 at 2:28 pm
DB55 Says:
November 6th, 2017 at 12:34 pm
I wish we had more players who started fights. I wish we had less snow flakes offended by fckn football players fighting. But then again maybe that’s why the Bucs have sucked so bad for so long too many choir boys and choir boy fans.
See: Lagarrette Blount, Talib, and a slew of others.
This isn’t gymnastics folks. Smfh
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You’re an idiot. That was a cheap shot and could’ve ended Lattimore’s career.
November 6th, 2017 at 2:28 pm
Maxi “Dungys playoff philosophy”?????
He was 9-10. However, he got there 19 times. You have to get there to have a shot. And he did win a SB.
Win–loss record: 139–69
Playoffs record: 9–10
Overall record: 148–79
November 6th, 2017 at 2:33 pm
@Joe … “The bad news is Ryan Fitzpatrick will start against the surprisingly physical and hungry Jets, as well as in Miami against the Dolphins’ ferocious defensive line.” Hmmm, great vote of confidence in Fitz there Joe. Just for the record, in the last 4 games (Cards, Bills, Panthers & Saints) Jameis has taken 183 snaps (played all of 2 games & part of 2 games). Fitz has taken less than half of that (85 snaps, playing in 2 of those games). While Jameis was on the field, Bucs scored 33 points … Fitz put up 40 points (and did it in almost 100 fewer plays). We won’t talk about the difference in INTs & fumbles. Only point being, keep an open mind about Fitz … he may surprise ya. Or not (since the team around him hasn’t changed any).
Joe’s concern in Fitz holding up physically. He’ll play well; he’ll throw picks. He’ll be Fitz. –Joe
November 6th, 2017 at 2:43 pm
Literally the worst case scenario….offense comes alive…sustains drives and looks respectable with Fitz at QB….Think about it. That happens, then what? Winston comes back, we look terrible. The Bucs are about to have an even bigger mess on their hands.
November 6th, 2017 at 2:59 pm
I am hearing the relationship between “America QB” and Koetter is really broken. I woke up at 5 AM and re-watched parts of the game and specifically the interactions between coach and JW….its icey at best in comparison to ’16. There was a point where #3 was asked to throw and he declined yesterday. I have never seen that before. I think he got benched for it. If you combine that with the feel sorry for me looks along with the fact he is touching players when he is not on the field (he deserves a fine) or playing and creating trouble, I think we know the answer that is coming. JW is not a pro. The NFL will not wait forever for him to mature and at this rate he will be lucky to get a CFL gig. I am willing to give him a pass on the idiotic eating Ws thing even since its not during the game but it didnt help his cause at all. I have seen DJAX face during that nonsense. He too is done with #3. If Fitz wins 1 of the next 2 games, we wont be seeing #3 this year again. His coddled ass since HS needs to look from the sidelines anyway and learn how to read a DEF.
BTW t-max and DB55- Fighting doesnt win games in the NFL. Thats high school bro. If you think fighting will make this team better, your really not well educated about winning football and I guess have not watched any of the good teams lately. I would encourage you to go watch NE or KC for a sampling of how you get to the playoffs and win as a team. Note>> very little fighting. If you fight on those teams and take a penalty, you wont see action for the reast of that game or more if Bill has his way (which he always does). In fact NE only fights when Tom Brady has a cheap shot taken at him when he is ON the field; Not sitting on the sideline playing jackass. We dont need hard players…we need a coach that demands excellence.
November 6th, 2017 at 3:00 pm
The protection is so bad that the injury report should list him as OUT with a Donovan Smith.
November 6th, 2017 at 3:16 pm
Protect the FRANCHISE Get Well Soon Winston GoBucs
November 6th, 2017 at 3:39 pm
BoJim
Then He should have stfu and not touched Jameis. Simple as that.
November 6th, 2017 at 3:57 pm
ah, they are finally sitting Jameis bust Winston.. what a shame..
November 6th, 2017 at 4:13 pm
Career highlights and awards
2× Super Bowl champion (XIII, XLI)
NFL 2000s All-Decade Team
Indianapolis Colts Ring of Honor (2010)
Pro Football Hall Of Fame
What more do the man need to prove?
No other former Buc coach is in the Hall Of Fame
November 6th, 2017 at 4:13 pm
Tony Dungy
November 6th, 2017 at 4:17 pm
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Seasons: 42 (1976 to 2017)
Record (W-L-T): 252-399-1
November 6th, 2017 at 4:25 pm
none of those awards offset a career losing record when it matters most. when you choke in the playoffs you do not deserve a seat at the table with the best of the best.
Tom Flores much more qualified candidate. Dungy is only in the hall of fame because he is a popular nice guy. simple as that. there are at least a handful of coaches with better credentials not in hall of fame yet. flores and jimmy johnson both ten times the coach as the one dimensional stubborn dungy.
November 6th, 2017 at 4:28 pm
Other important facts
Tony Dungy has more playoffs wins in his 13 years
Than the Bucs has in their 42 year history
He has been involved in more Super Bowls
Than the Bucs pathetic franchise
He has better win percentage than the Bucs
Win–loss record:139–69
Playoffs record: 9–10
Overall record: 148–79
Tamp Bay Bucs
Record (W-L-T): 252-399-1
Playoff Record: 6-9
Super Bowls Won: 1 (1 Appearance)
Tony Dungy
Super Bowls Won: 2 (Appearance)
Tony Dungy : Hall Of Fame Member
Tampa Bay Bucs 2-6
November 6th, 2017 at 4:32 pm
The Reality is:
Tony Dungy is in the Hall Of Fame
Tony Dungy is an NBC analyst
The Bucs still Sucs
November 6th, 2017 at 4:37 pm
55-
First and foremost, the guy you love the most DB #55 hated fighting and players who lost control. Something to chew on when your sitting there writing under this name about the Pros of fighting, who I consider the best Buc of all time. He would flat out tell you that you are wrong and confused as fighting is not winning football. The Jags fought tons before Coughlin got there and they had a 3 win season if you need a little proof. There is a big difference between fighting and being physical up front as the latter takes skill.
When Evans is suspended this week and cant play, remember that fighting does not win games. Even ME post game, said it was not a good move on his part and he regretted it.
JW may be some sacred cow to you but to normal Buc fans who have seen tons of terrible QB play…he is just another name on the list of bad QBs.
November 6th, 2017 at 4:38 pm
Why do you guys even bother with tmax? He’s a proven idiot o my capable of regurgitating the same 4 comments over and over again about McCoy, LVD, Martin and Dungy.
Perhaps my new favorite is that manning won the super bowl in spite of Sungy. LOL! You realize Manning never did sh!t in the postseason UNTIL he had a great defense. (Colts and Broncos)
November 6th, 2017 at 5:06 pm
I think we have enough data to predict that a long term deal with Winston is likely to set the franchise back 5 years.
I would sit him for 3-4 weeks and then let him play out the last 3-4 games that don’t mean anything and then offer him up as trade bait.
Winston’s numbers are fraudulent. He has had some amazing games but he has not shown himself to be consist, and that is what is needed from a franchise quarterback. Now that he is a guy who gets injured he is more likely to become even more inconsistent.
Time to move on….
November 6th, 2017 at 5:28 pm
Only took the front office and coaches four straight weeks of the same accruing injury to make this genius decision.
November 6th, 2017 at 5:32 pm
Was nice to see someone other than us fans get MAD ! First time I saw any fight from the Bucs.
November 6th, 2017 at 5:42 pm
Evans is a coward for hitting Someone from the blindside. JamesisNOT stayed that he was protecting his QB, LOL. Fitzpatrick is now the qb and I hope he does well and wins the starting job. Gruden will work so much better with an intelligent QB.
November 6th, 2017 at 5:43 pm
Start Ryan Griffin
Fire Mike Smith / Promote Jay Hayes
Let Tod Monken call Koetters playbook.
Watch the team turn around
November 6th, 2017 at 6:37 pm
They should really consider dumping Winston. Like him all you want but he’s never going to bring a championship. Send him to the Browns.
November 6th, 2017 at 8:38 pm
JW is a cross between Doug Williams and Vinny Testaverde. In another 10 years when he’s finally matured and realized what it takes to be a pro he’ll probably experience some moderate success maybe even more in the perfect situation with an elite team ala 87 Redskins.
Unfortunately for now and the foreseeable future, he’s a coach killer.
November 6th, 2017 at 9:23 pm
I hope Jameis knows how to speak Canadian
November 7th, 2017 at 10:47 am
Shutup UNBELIEVABLE. There is an opening for Caoch Koetters coffee boy. Remember? YOU..were the one who hailed his hiring as the 2nd coming of Christ!!
November 7th, 2017 at 12:18 pm
“Expect the Bucs to activate QB Ryan Griffin”
That’s good news at least.