“He Is Not A Scumbag”
November 16th, 2017
A former Jon Gruden Buccaneer fires back on the words of another ex-Chucky Buc.
All the people pounding drums for Chucky to return as Buccaneers head coach might have forgotten how much things unraveled when Chucky was here, even with 9-7 records in his final two seasons.
Remember when Chucky was fired in 2009 and Bucs icon Simeon Rice lashed out on national radio? Rice called him a “scumbag” and went into detail on why Chucky was so disliked. The story went national, but what stood out most is none of Chucky’s ex-players came to his defense publicly.
Fast-forward eight years, and Rice is being treated as a favorite son of the Bucs organization while Chucky is going into the Buccaneers Ring of Honor next month, with national rumors swirling of him taking over Tampa Bay in seven weeks — and no one killing them at One Buc Palace.
Only the Bucs run a soap opera like this.
Chris Simms, the Bucs’ division-title QB in 2005, weighed in on PFT Live this week and explained that Chucky “burned a lot of bridges all across the NFL and I think that’s the reason why you’ve seen him be out of the game so long.”
Simms continued: “I think it’s sometimes why you see him kiss the butt of coaches when you watch the games because I think he’s trying to make amends with these people.”
Simms also declared of Chucky,”he’s not a scumbag.”
Enjoy the video below. … And join Joe in hoping the Bucs turn things around quickly on the field.
November 16th, 2017 at 7:37 am
Interesting. I saw Chris Simms post that if the bucs fires Koetter than there’s a 75 percent chance the Bucs will hire Gruden. He predicted a lot of strang things this season and they all seem to right
November 16th, 2017 at 8:11 am
Burned a lot of bridges? That’s an interesting remark and not sure where that comes from. I mean Rich Mckay isn’t going to hire him anytime soon but other than that I’d like to know who he’s referring to.
November 16th, 2017 at 8:15 am
I don’t really care if the players hate their coach as long as they play hard for him. There’s only one thing I didn’t like about Chucky and that’s how he passed out A train. He’s got killer instinct he’s aggressive and I’d prefer that over a timid guy coaching scared
November 16th, 2017 at 8:29 am
Coughlin is tough and look how bad the giants are with him gone and look how good Jax has been with just his presence in the building
November 16th, 2017 at 8:35 am
You can dig up players that dislike coaches all day long. Players get cut or get to the point they can’t play. Or benched (like the great Michael Clayton).
Terry Bradshaw hated Chuck Noll for years.
You could also find a lot of bucs players giving a lot of credit to Gruden, if you so desired.
I’ll take that Gru “unraveling” any day over what we’ve endured since.
November 16th, 2017 at 8:36 am
No Chucky, please…..no, no a thousand times know……that book’s been written and the pages turned….
November 16th, 2017 at 8:42 am
Simms has hard feeling against Gruden because he couldn’t play. Idiotic for him to say Chucky has been out so long bc he burned bridges. Chucky could have had most jobs that opened since he left. Also ridiculous for Rice to call him a scumbag… Rice was cut because he was done and Rice proved he was done by going to denver and indy and getting cut by those teams because he couldnt play… although Rice did get ONE sack for his semi-pro team.
November 16th, 2017 at 8:54 am
This would truly be ridiculous…Like the Lovie hiring, going back to try and relive he past…He was fired, right? …for a reason…why would he suit the Bucs now after being away from the game so long?…I always thought that Gruden was the “star” of the team after winning the Super Bowl and maybe his players resented that overexposure attention he got…the players won the Super Bowl, not an X and O coach…he helped, like everyone else on the team…
November 16th, 2017 at 9:00 am
Comparing Lovie to Gruden lmaoo
November 16th, 2017 at 9:07 am
pass on gruden…hire harbaugh…simple as that….GO BUCS!!!!
November 16th, 2017 at 9:12 am
Personally, I think Gruden didn’t appreciate what Alstott could do and took Mike’s chances of making the HOF away from him.
November 16th, 2017 at 9:25 am
CBS Sports scribe Jason La Canfora, who led with this on Sunday:
With Jim Harbaugh’s tenure in Ann Arbor not going as well as some had hoped, and with owners for several bottom-dwelling NFL teams already starting to mull their next coaching move, numerous league sources suggested the former 49ers coach will have numerous opportunities to return to the pro game should he so desire.
Say what you will about Harbaugh’s three years at Michigan, but the man’s four seasons in San Francisco get larger and more impressive, in retrospect, with each passing Halloween.
GET IT DONE GLAZERS!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
November 16th, 2017 at 9:37 am
Living in the past is guaranteed failure…. it’s a shame so many buc fans are so weak and afraid of anything new… always clamiring for has beens that never really were great… big difference between good and great.
November 16th, 2017 at 9:40 am
Gruden’s people skills proved to be very bad when things were not going just right.
Its one thing to not be liked as a coach. But not being respected is a whole different issue.
Gruden lost the respect of MANY of his players over the years because way too many times Jon would make a particular statement with conviction when talking to players directly – but then do the exact opposite of what he told them. In other words – He lied to his players faces in too many instances and then never made amends or even acknowledged what he had previously said was different than what he did.
NOBODY likes to be BSed or lied to.
THAT is what Simeon’s “Scumbag” quote was referring to. Rice was FAR from the only player Gruden coached who had those type of feelings about Chucky…
I will forever be grateful to Jon Gruden (as we all should) for bringing the perfect energy at the perfect time and guiding this franchise to its only Super Bowl appearance and victory.
But even if the Glazers decide that Koetter must go – I don’t think bringing Chucky back as HC of this team would be a good idea at all. Especially since its been almost 10 years since he has coached a football team in any capacity.
The personnel decisions during Gruden’s tenure were downright BAD and its a pretty sure bet that Bruce Allen did not make all those bad draft picks and personnel decisions with out some if not a large degree of influence from the HC.
The only way I would believe it might make sense to bring Gruden in as HC for the Buccaneers again – is if Licht maintains complete control over the roster and all personnel moves – and a very strong and reputable Defense coach is brought in to basically “handle” all aspects of the D (similar to the Gruden/Kiffen set up).
Chucky’s “ego” was his least redeeming quality and I seriously doubt he would agree to concede that level of control coming back as a HC.
November 16th, 2017 at 9:43 am
Harbaugh is not taking a pay cut to come to a small market team with a dysfunctional history of losing and being run more like a circus than a pro sports franchise. Bucs have easily passed Cleveland for the least desirable team to coach or play for… reality sucks but the results are undeniable
November 16th, 2017 at 9:46 am
Soap Opera?
The worst thing the Bucs could do from a PR standpoint is actually come out and respond and mention the Koetter hot seat and Gruden rumors. That’s what the soap opera would be.
November 16th, 2017 at 9:54 am
With age comes maturity and perspective. I don’t think Koetter should be fired and I don’t think Chucky should be hired by the organization but good for Gruden to try and right some wrongs.
November 16th, 2017 at 9:57 am
If Chucky REALLY wants to coach Knoxville is calling. That would be his best shot.
Total control over his roster…the ability to use his fame and rep and sales ability to bring the best talent in the land to play for the Vols.
And the great thing about Tennessee is he would have control over kids not grown men who are professionals with their own reputations. And when his act wears out with them it’s time for them to move on to the NFL anyway. So there would be a continuum of “fresh” Chucky for the ever changing roster. Chucky would not have to deal with the Meshawn Johnsons jawing in his face on the sideline.
Personally I do not believe Chucky is coming back. He misses the good stuff…who wouldn’t…the NFL is an adrenaline rush for all involved…but as President of the Fired Football Coaches of America he remembers the downside as well.
November 16th, 2017 at 10:02 am
Tmax
who says he has to take a pay cut?…..why don’t you think the billionaire glazer boys will pay BIG $$$$ for harbaugh?
san fran was a mess when he took over and has been a mess since he left…if harbaugh wants to be in the NFL and the bucs need a coach it wont be that hard…..
we have a franchise QB, weapons….pieces in place on defense…LB’s are just as good as what he had in san fran….beautiful weather….sounds like a perfect match to me…..GO BUCS!!!
November 16th, 2017 at 10:08 am
Not going to happen fellows! KNOXVILLE BOUND!
November 16th, 2017 at 10:25 am
Hell no he’s not a scumbag. The man walks on water. How many people out there can really say they thought they would ever see the Bucs win a Super Bowl. I been a Bucs fan since 1976 and I never thought I would get to see it. I don’t have a lot of years left so I might not get to see another one but I get to see the one Chucky won over & over again thanks to DVD.
November 16th, 2017 at 10:33 am
Tenn vols?
Gruden knows what it takes to win and compete
Gruden knows tenn cant win and compete in the sec with their lack of recruits vs the powerhouses…he knows he will get canned in 5 years at the sec
Gruden knows he has Jameis and the pieces in Tampa…he knows like the glazers and others around the NFL we should not be a 3-6 team
Gruden is a proven Offensive guru. He knows he can make this offense prolific with his schemes
*I overheard his kid is getting tired lifting cars and want to get back into be a strength coach in the NFL (rumour around the lakeland trailer parks)
November 16th, 2017 at 10:44 am
Kobe
Tennessee has facilities as good as any in the SEC. They have a rabid fan base that pours over 100,000 into Rocky Top for their games.
And oh btw perhaps you’re a really young dude. Phil Fulmer was an offensive lineman who became a coach. I got to see him work up close while I covered the Vols. He was not charismatic like Chucky, a really decent dude with some coaching talent. He won multiple SEC championships and again oh btw brought back a National Championship beating FSU.
He would definitely have his work cut out to catch Saban but the other programs are not out of the Vols league at all when you consider facilities and fan support…and it’s college…he who can recruit can WIN. Do we think Chucky might be a great recruiter?
November 16th, 2017 at 10:51 am
https://www.rockytoptalk.com/2017/11/14/16651700/report-gruden-not-interested-in-tennessee-new-candidates-mentioned-jimbo-fisher
*These rumours above are not as concrete as ones coming from the lakeland trailer park circles but which are
November 16th, 2017 at 11:24 am
Kobe
Again I do not think Chucky has enough fire in his belly to come back anywhere.
My point is not that he’s going to Knoxville…just that it’s his best option if he REALLY wants to coach again.
November 16th, 2017 at 11:29 am
813bucboi
let me ask you this question… When have the Glazer Clowns ever done the right thing since daddy got sick. They have not! Bottom line is, if Jim Harbaugh wants to come back to NFL he will have his PICK of teams why would he come to such a screwed up situation with very little hope. I love harbaugh but being a realist it makes ZERO sense for him to even consider the bucs.
November 16th, 2017 at 11:49 am
When your filthy rich all you bave is ego
Gruden has plenty of that
Gruden as a coach only wants 1 thing in life…hall of fame
Another superbowl and its guarenteed
Grudog knows that
November 16th, 2017 at 12:04 pm
tmax
there’s a first time for everything…..
of all the teams that may have a coaching change, the bucs have the best situation….we would be 6-3 at the very worst if harbaugh was coaching this team today…..GO BUCS!!!
November 16th, 2017 at 12:06 pm
Since Chucky was canned what NFL team has performed worse on the field than the bucs?
If there are any, it is not a long list.
If it did happen I am sure you would have some upset players when he blows a gasket over the pathetic effort displayed in recent years.
Oh well……
November 16th, 2017 at 12:09 pm
Amen.
November 16th, 2017 at 12:18 pm
Gee I can imagine why these rumors keep swirling. It’s not like the media or certain sites publish stories about it every single day.
I wonder what it is? 🤔🤔
November 16th, 2017 at 12:38 pm
Tamp Bay Buccaneers
2002 Super Bowl Champs
2003 7-9
2004 5-11
This is a great HC?
It’s pathetic that fools want him back
November 16th, 2017 at 12:39 pm
The key to Gruden is guaranteed money……does anyone know what he’s actually guaranteed at ESPN. He may be getting $6 million per year but if hes on a year to year basis…or two years….and a team will give him $6 million on a 5 yr deal that’s guarnateed….he’s likely going to jump if they have a QB in place. $30 million guaranteed is better then $6-8 million on a per yr basis…especially at ESPN where they are scrambling to find a formula to drive profits.
November 16th, 2017 at 1:44 pm
#Grumors
November 16th, 2017 at 2:40 pm
Simms having any kind of football opinion is a joke.
The kid has had some of the worst takes I’ve ever heard through Bleacher Report and he ALWAYS hates on TB lol
November 16th, 2017 at 2:43 pm
LakeLand how about you list all the winning seasons too? With much less talent than what other coaches have had to work with might I add.
We have not been competitive in any manner since Gruden has been here. If you wanna claim mediocrity with Gruden than we have been cellar dwellers since he left. I’d much rather be the former.
November 16th, 2017 at 3:03 pm
Dirk Koetter had a winning season last season at 9-7 and fools are talking about firing him. So why should I mention Gruden two 9-7 seasons? That don’t make any sense. What do make sense is to mention the fact that the Bucs went 12-20. After winning the Super Bowl, this probably will never happen again.
November 16th, 2017 at 3:06 pm
Jon Chucky Egomaniac Gruden back as HC? No thanks!!!!!!!!! I’ll take Jay Gruden over his blowhard brother in a nanosecond. I hope Koetter finally sees the light with his 3-year-old offense. DK has put together something Egomaniac never did here. BAH!
November 16th, 2017 at 3:06 pm
12-20 with a Super Bowl team, it’s a joke.
November 16th, 2017 at 3:07 pm
7-9 with future Hall of Famers and 8 Pro Bowl players, Super Bowl players.
November 16th, 2017 at 4:30 pm
Do you just love reading the utter crap your write? lol
NEVER In any year did any of Grudens teams look like the dumpster fire we have fielded this year even in the few seasons where the Bucs won a handful under him.
And EVEN WITH a few seasons of that dominant D the rosters that have been here since have still have had more to offer than what Gruden had to work with.
You are a funny dude. Your omission of the good does not make your point any more it actually makes you look that much more idiotic.
12-4
11-5
9-7
9-7
4 winning seasons out of 7 and a Super Bowl in his first, that is MUCH MORE than what we have had around these parts in a long time. Last season was a breath of fresh air but this season has proven that that was most likely a fluke. Regression across all facets for the most part all season.
I digress, not point in continuing this convo. Agree to disagree. H A N D
November 16th, 2017 at 4:36 pm
The Shere HORROR..of being a Bucs fan. Almost makes me want to drink…….?
November 16th, 2017 at 4:37 pm
Last thing I’ll say is it’s hilarious to me yall just graze over the fact he won a super bowl with TB ike it was just a given. “12-20 with a super bowl team, it’s a joke” WTF are you talking about?!?!?! HE MADE THEM A SUPER-BOWL TEAM, HE BROUGHT THEM TO THE PROMISE LAND! They were not just some “super-bowl team” waiting for any coach to come along and win a Lombardi with them. He took them there. Our ONLY Lombardi was with this man, stop skimming over it like he didn’t achieve the highest honor in his first season in TB.
November 16th, 2017 at 4:45 pm
Lakeland
Wow we agree about Chucky!!! LOL
November 16th, 2017 at 5:52 pm
St Pete
it don’t make sense to talk about firing a HC after 18 months on the job. Dirk Koetter went 9-7 last season. Jon Gruden had back to back losing seasons after winning the Super Bowl, he didn’t get fired. Look at Sean Payton in New Orleans( 3 straight losing seasons) now the Saints are leading the NFC South. Ron Rivera first 2 seasons in Carolina was losing seasons. Then he won the division 3 straight seasons.
November 16th, 2017 at 5:54 pm
Jon Gruden was 57-55 as the Head Coach of the Tampa bay Buccaneers. He’s nothing more than a 500 Coach. so how will he be a upgrade over Dirk Koetter? It’s just crazy talk, coming from craze fans.
November 16th, 2017 at 6:02 pm
Jon Gruden
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2002 12-4
2003 7-9
2004 5-11
2005 11-5
2006 4-12
2007 9-7
2008 9-7
57-55 Win-Lost 51%
Only a IDIOT will consider this ass successful in the NFL
November 16th, 2017 at 6:05 pm
Lakeland
Good examples of the benefit of continuity. Agree with you there as well.
November 16th, 2017 at 6:08 pm
I meant as…not ass
November 16th, 2017 at 6:27 pm
The reasons why the Bucs hasn’t been successful since Gruden
4 Head Coaches since his firing
6 Defensive Coordinators
5 Offensive Coordinators
And some idiots are begging for another change
New regimes bring in their own players
So they get rid of good,quality players
That don’t fit their system
You will never win in the NFL with this foolishness
November 16th, 2017 at 10:16 pm
Something changed in Gruden during that off season after the Superbowl win. He didn’t seem like the same guy on the sidelines during that following season, and the Bucs ended up with the worst post Superbowl Championship record at 2 years out of any team ever. The speculation was that he wanted to disprove the theory that the Superbowl win was more about Dungy’s players, than his coaching. The Bucs regression from Superbowl champs to a sub 500 team was quick and strange. I think Gruden has to own part of the responsibility for that failure. After that Superbowl win, his legacy in Tampa got a lot more complex
November 17th, 2017 at 12:33 am
Gruden is an egomaniac. Based on his body of work, however, nobody can understand why.
November 17th, 2017 at 10:12 am
TMax and Kobe Faker hang out together