Spreadsheeter: Blame Jameis
November 7th, 2017
If anyone is to blame for the Bucs being 2-6, there is one person to point a finger at. That would be America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.
That’s the word from follicly-challenged spreadsheeter Bill Barnwell of BSPN.
Barnwell is handing out midseason awards to various NFL players and he believes the Most Disappointing Player of the Year is Jameis. He fingers Jameis for the suckage of the Bucs this season.
Winston’s lack of development as a third-year starter has been far more troubling. This was supposed to be a breakout season for the Bucs after Tampa signed DeSean Jackson before using a first-round pick on O.J. Howard. Instead, while Winston’s raw numbers are at or slightly above their averages from a year ago, his overall performance has slipped significantly. Winston has generated only a 39.4 QBR, down more than 20 points from his 59.5 mark from a year ago. He has missed open receivers on a weekly basis. Winston’s shoulder knocked him out of Sunday’s loss to the Saints, but he was struggling before spraining his shoulder earlier this season. In what is quickly becoming a lost season for the 2-6 Buccaneers, Winston seems as far removed from Tampa’s 2016 campaign as anyone else on the roster.
Joe would use the word “erratic” more than “disappointing.” Jameis has been inconsistent and his slow starts are to the point of being a major concern.
Of course, he turned in one of his best games after he blew out his shoulder and he gave the Bucs the lead late in Buffalo, only to see his defense ralph all over themselves and choke away a victory.
Joe told you it is open season on Jameis.
November 7th, 2017 at 5:20 am
I’d use both words erratic and disappointing
November 7th, 2017 at 5:37 am
Ja-Miss ! What’s the over under on Coaches he goes through?
November 7th, 2017 at 5:37 am
Competition for Yung Jamesi
Trade Option (s)
• Alex Smith (33)
• AJ McCarron (27)
• Nate Sudfeld (24)
Free Agent (s)
• Jimmy Garoppolo (26)
• Kirk Cousins (29)
• Case Keenum (29)
November 7th, 2017 at 5:38 am
*Jameis
November 7th, 2017 at 5:45 am
Anyone that has followed football long enough knows that QBR is not a real statistic. Quarterback rating is legit, but ESPNs QBR is a bs formula with personal bias included.
Can’t believe joe is quoting this nonsense. He says Jameis stats are better but because of one category (a stat made up by ESPN) Jameis has regressed. The kid is 22, give him a break.
November 7th, 2017 at 5:59 am
We need to forget about Jameis and start to root for who we have as the starting QB. JamesisNOT has quit on his fan base and teammates. We need to remember that the NFL is a business and the Bucs have been trying to keep fans in the seats by sticking with JamesisNOT. I am sure the coaches wanted to pull him a long time ago. They see him everyday and know what he is. He has been at the right place at the right time in high school and college….the NFL has exposed his lack of brainpower. I suggest that he pulls a Tebow and head to MLB. Although Tebow did lead his NFL team to a playoff game and actually win a game in the playoffs.
November 7th, 2017 at 6:08 am
Et tu brute? Break out the knives … it’s ‘pile-on time’. Joe, you & others in the media sold Jameis as the face of the franchise. America’s QB, Pro-Bowler Jameis Winston. The savior of Bucsville. Young David going forward into battle to slay Goliath. Load the savior down with shiny new weapons then turn him loose on the battlefield. Jameis & his new band of warriors will take the NFL by storm. Goliath doesn’t have a chance. This’ll be over quickly.
Hmmm, a funny thing happened on the way to the forum apparently. Well, come to think of it, not THAT funny. Turns out Goliath really was 9 feet tall, and he was a pretty good warrior himself. Our savior stumbled carrying all those shiny new weapons. The king tried to make him into something he wasn’t, and that wasn’t the way to defeat Goliath. Let him get back to who he is … back to the ‘sling & stones’ so to speak.
And just like David had someone far stronger than himself ‘supporting him’, Jameis also needs a strong team supporting him. T-E-A-M-s win championships, even though select players may win MVP recognition. The T-E-A-M around Jameis bought into the hoopla from this past summer, and has now found out that Goliath really is 9 feet tall. And he’s mean.
November 7th, 2017 at 6:09 am
Sorry but I point the finger at Licht and his inability to recruit a DL and develop a run game. JW was doing fine prior to the injury. He should have never been playing.
November 7th, 2017 at 6:09 am
While JW3 will get most of the blame, It is wrong to give him all the blame!!!!!!
The “blame” can be spread out!!!!!
JW3 inconsistent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
over estimation of the so called “talent”!!!!!!!!!
veteran “leadership”!!!!!!
The “real” QB Killa that plays left tackle!!!!!!!!!
injuries!!!!!!!!!!!
manhandled in the trenches!!!!!!!!!!
Distractions that started with the reality show!!!!!!!!
These players and team are really blowing in opportunity!!!!!!! Even though I have given a pass to the coaching staff because the owner’s decided that this year was about “advertising” and “expanding the brand”!!!!!!!!! Many are out with pitch forks to get rid of some of the better coaches that the Bucs will find!!!!!!!!!! To snap this roster out of the funk, The Glazers need to show a commitment to something so that the so called players know that this is the way it is!!!!!!! If they keep silent, then the inmates are running the asylum!!!!!!!!!! The Glazers started the spiral by putting the reality show at 1 Buc and the players goofed off and act like reality stars!!!!! The Glazers need to end the charade, and give the power that the drastic measure can be put in place to salvage this team!!!!!!!!
GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 7th, 2017 at 6:28 am
He has been inconsistent and he alone doesn’t have the experiences or wisdom to lead all 53 men and fix himself-
The Bucs lack leaders with fortitude and have for some time
This team needs a serious attitude adjustment- there is enough talent on this roster – there are many teams with less Doing far more
We are being out coached week in week out
November 7th, 2017 at 6:28 am
@Defense Rules
Lol good one.
November 7th, 2017 at 6:30 am
He’s not America’s quarterback, never was, never will be. He’s our quarterback and the honeymoon is officially over. Let’s try to get to a level, if we can get Jameis there, to us being proud to call him Tampa’s quarterback. Everything else is just the same love fest by the Joes and FSU fans that has put Jameis in the position of feeling untouchable. Treat him like a nobody from Toledo and maybe watch the improvement come with him knowing the love fest has ended and we’re only gonna judge him by wins and losses in the NFL and not by wins vs inferior competition at the college level. Let’s please move past the ridiculous moniker of America’s quarterback so we can all feel like we’re following and making comments in a serious Bucs fan page.
November 7th, 2017 at 6:39 am
The young quarterback more deserving of America’s Quarterback title might the injured QB in Houston but definitely isn’t the injured QB in Tampa
November 7th, 2017 at 6:41 am
Call Johnny football!!!
November 7th, 2017 at 6:53 am
I’m not that worries about Winston. He is innacerate but i think that can be fixed. What no one is talking about that i think will be teling is what does fitz do as a two game starter with the same weapons/team. No i am not calling for a benching or Winston. But it will be interesting to see how well or poorly fitz does with the same team.
November 7th, 2017 at 6:54 am
Agree w Realist. It would be incredibly short sighted to overlook the players on this roster and fire lir coaches. What head coach candidate would “want” to come to Tampa, and be the 5th coach in 9 years?
It would be insanity to suddenly think these current players can win, knowing that “it’s ok” to just quit on the coach after a year and he will be replaced. We need accountability.
November 7th, 2017 at 6:54 am
Looking back to his FSU days, he had an enormous amount of talent around him that basically bailed him out in many games…..at the NFL level, with this team, he doesn’t have the type of talent around him to make him look good, in fact, the lack of talent on both lines, offense and defense, is where all the problems start……if the Bucs were solid on the offensive and defensive lines, the narrative and results would be far different.
November 7th, 2017 at 6:54 am
Chris K
Ding ding ding ding. Perfectly put. He is tampas quarterback
Hope he can turn around cause there is still time especially with franchise tag but his inconsistent play will get everyone fired on current staff
Gruden always wanted to delevop a young qb. He studies all these qbs tendencies- strengths and weaknesses Pretty sure gruden will have say on what becomes of jameis
November 7th, 2017 at 7:01 am
Everybody keeps talking about the fight with Lattimore as evidence of poor leadership by Jameis. However, I can’t get over his stupid pregame “Eat a W” speech. Not only was it simply stupid and tasteless (get it) but it provided some insight into what may be the biggest problem in this team. Look at the faces of his teammates during that rant. They all appear to have a look on their face saying “what the hell is this clown doing” or “this is my QB?”
November 7th, 2017 at 7:07 am
Sorry to have to say it again, but the real culprits here are the gang that kept insisting Jameis would lead us to the Promised Land THIS YEAR. Just give him the “weapons” and forget about the D-Line, the O-Line, DEs, pass rushers, etc. Let’s ignore all the unhappy ‘Noles and just cheer on Fitz and the Bucs, win or lose…
November 7th, 2017 at 7:10 am
The Bucs are a one dimensional team on offense. Can’t run the ball affectively at all, and have no short passing game in the playbook to speak of. Not many QBs are successful under these circumstances, especially injured ones. I’m not saying Jameis has played well this year – he has only done so in stretches – but he’s obviously been asked to do too much in the passing game. There has to be balance, and it’s been lacking on the Bucs’ offense for 2 seasons.
November 7th, 2017 at 7:23 am
I am becoming more and more convinced that we are very weak in the trenches…..I think on both lines we have only two players that other teams would want…..Marpet & GMC……yes GMC…..you would have to be a complete moron to expect GMC to be the cause of Bucs losing.
Jameis is inconsistent and has accuracy problems but he can win with the right team around him. I don’t buy that our RBs are the problem. Other teams’ RBs have open lanes to run. Ours have to fend off defenders in our backfield
November 7th, 2017 at 7:39 am
I see a young man who is trying to do whatever he can to kick start a life less, gut less team. Where we are lacking any kind of leadership is from Koetter. Let’s blame the 23 year old for regressing this season instead of the Q.B. offensive guru grown man Koetter who’s actual job was to take him to the next level.
November 7th, 2017 at 7:52 am
Maybe he will take a little longer to mature. He did start pretty young y’all know. I’m willing to give him the rest of the season to get his head on straight. Lost season anyway. Get rid of whiners and complainers and the dorks that don’t practice. Field a team that wants to play. Hard.
November 7th, 2017 at 8:27 am
With NO running game.
Zero.
They’re half an offense.
November 7th, 2017 at 8:47 am
If Fitzy WINS the next 2 games with QB play, what will Buc fan say then?
If you had a chance at say AJ McCarron (he is seeking UFA due to Cincy bungle), would the Bucs take it?
Goliath is a parable BTW…a story not real. Great QBs make others better around them (see A Rodgers)…”Jameis also needs a strong team supporting him”. Is he making anyone else better? If yes, who? Maybe Brate but thats gotten predictable and is creating turnovers.
Tom is right…we have seen this before at FSU.
I agree the OL lines have something to do with his performance but its not the primary reason. His accuracy is his achilles and has been since HS. Ask Jimbo!
I can tell you if Coughlin or Parcells were running this team, Winston would be gone. He is not mature after 3 years. NFL does not wait for you..it will pass u by.
November 7th, 2017 at 8:58 am
it will be interesting to see how well or poorly fitz does with the same team.
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Easy answer! go back and look at the play just before the fight.
Fitz is looking to hit Djax deep along the left sideline. The Saints send a safety blitz, Vonn Bell comes untouched and absolutely levels Fitz. Almost took his head off literally.
Needless to say, Fitz had to let the ball go early leading to an overthrow. Again he overthrew Djax which I hear is impossible to do. Sound familiar? But yea Jameis sucks boy,,straight basura just like this fan base but wtf do I know.
November 7th, 2017 at 9:10 am
@Steve K
nothing will change until you have a president of football operations and the Glazers stay out of the way.
November 7th, 2017 at 9:21 am
@REALIST….
well well well….welcome back from the dead…..your wrong (YET AGAIN) on so many levels….your credibility has been lost because of your hate for lovie….you bashed him week in and week out while claiming he was an incompetent coach….turns out, the grass aint greener on the other side….lets begin shall we:
first dirk and smitty are to blame….primarily….dirk choose smitty to be his DC and he’s failing…..as @joe pointed out sunday night after the game, this defense is WORSE that lovies and has regressed from last year…..IMCOMPETENT DC!!!!
dirk was promoted because he was suppose to be an offensive guru….looks like an offensive dunce….he was promoted to enhance the development of Winston….that hasn’t happened yet…seems like Winston has regressed….INCOMPETENT OC!!!!
HARD KNOCKS had nothing to do with the teams failures….stop the BS….its the job of the HC to keep the team focused….
the players aren’t blowing their opportunity….THIS STAFF is blowing their opportunity to be NFL coaches again….after what smitty and dirk have displayed, who on GODS green earth would want to hire them for anything?….no one wants a DC that cant stop anyone and a OC that cant score any points….
who the h3ll are you to “give this team a pass” this year?…..are you licht?….a glazer boy?….nawl your a dirk fan that has no knowledge of what the h3ll is going on inside One Buc Place or in football in general…..
to snap this team out of a funk the glazers need to clean house….and they will….they’re just waiting until “BLACK MONDAY”…they’ll let dirk continue to sh!t on himself while guiding us to a top 5 pick…
their are NO INMATES in the NFL or at ONE BUC PLACE….dirk has lost control and the players have lost faith in him because he has been exposed as a man in over his head….#IMCOMPETENT….
dirk and smitty will be canned once the clock hits 00:00 on DEC.31ST….that will be the day this franchise gets better….GO BUCS!!!!
November 7th, 2017 at 9:25 am
Whoever said Jameis is 22.. wrong. .he will be 24 in two months. .
I said it before. .and I’ll say it again. .the FSU mob will still continue defending this QB..
November 7th, 2017 at 9:27 am
Hodad Says:
November 7th, 2017 at 7:39 am
I see a young man who is trying to do whatever he can to kick start a life less, gut less team. Where we are lacking any kind of leadership is from Koetter. Let’s blame the 23 year old for regressing this season instead of the Q.B. offensive guru grown man Koetter who’s actual job was to take him to the next level.
^^BINGO^^!!!!
blame the HC/OC/offensive guru that has a #2ranked passing offense but cant score points and has our franchise QB regressing!!!!…..GO BUCS!!!
November 7th, 2017 at 10:04 am
i always wonder if these guys actually watch the games when i read something dumb like this .. feel like he just checks the stats and goes from there . also it’s obvious that jameis re injured his shoulder in buffalo and really shouldn’t have been playing after that game . but 2 division games with season still on the line coaches rolled him out there and you could tell he was struggling . i’m not worried about jameis i think the slow starts are a reflection of the offense as a whole and the play caller. he will prove when he comes back either later this season or next season that he is everything we thought he was. he wasn’t given the opportunity this season getting hurt after playing in just 4 games and less than a quarter. anybody judging him based of that is an idiot especially considering how good he was playing before the injury and in buffalo. if we had a decent defense the story would be so different but just because he’s our qb and it’s jameis hes the punching bag. he needs to just put his head down and continue to work and prove everyone wrong. can’t wait til everyone hear in the comments dogging jameis winston is back singing him praises when he leads us on a game winning drive . i took screen shots of all the idiots who were doing so.
November 7th, 2017 at 10:45 am
that’s a lot of screen shots, “johnnybuc”. Quite a few dolts commenting.
November 7th, 2017 at 11:33 am
The blame should be on EVERYONE! JW is to blame, the offensive personnel, the defensive personnel. All coaches, management…everybody. No one should be comfortable thinking they have job security.
The Glazers need to step into an all staff meeting and let everyone know that their jobs aren’t safe. We can find 53 new players , 23 new coaches a GM and the 20 or so key managers and scouts. They need to show some pride. Their father bought the team with a winning mentality and they have let it slip back into the laughing stock of the league. Rebuilding with a few key pieces (whomever they prove to be) only takes a couple of years. But it can’t be done with complacency and a losing mentality. Apathy is not the answer!
I feel better now. Lol
November 7th, 2017 at 11:52 am
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Jameis played 4 healthy games this year, the first 4 games … Bucs were 2-2 and if not for getting Folked, would have been 3-1 … and Jameis was on pace for 4,792 yards, 28 TDs and 12 INTs and had a higher completion percentage and lower INT percentage than Wentz and Dak … then he got injured and the season went to crap.
Lazy media narratives drive me nuts!
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November 7th, 2017 at 5:20 pm
It is so simple and lazy as hell to “BLAME JAMEIS”
DEFENSE RULES & NFL NUT are 2 of the rational posters on here.
It is a lot of talent both defense and offense, JW is the QB however he is just a part of the problem!
Some posters expectations based on the play is unrealistic and others just is using this time to exploit their vendetta…EVERY PERSON CHIMES IN AFTER GAMES WITH ALL OF THEIR UNDOCUMENTED WISDOM AS TO WHAT PLAY SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED, WHAT PLAYER SHOULD BE CUT, WHAT ROUTE FAILED, WHAT PASS SHOULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT and on and on …GIVE ME A FREAKIN Break…
PLEASE GET OFF THE SOAP BOXES…and as far as Jameis short of permanent injury to his arm TAMPA BAY WILL NOT DEFINE HIM!!!
November 7th, 2017 at 9:46 pm
Desean Jackson said “Winston is the worst quarterback I’ve ever had”
It’s just a rumor though because you’d never be able to tell by the way Winston plays on the field bring in the top half of the league in passing yards and all.
How they Lie to fans with Statistics. If you only judged this team by wins and losses then you realize why us Tampa fans love this team more in the off-season, it’s the only time we have hope. We have to be done if the best fans in football, 98% come back for more every year.
November 8th, 2017 at 4:19 am
jameis is straight crumbling under the pressure of losing…he might not have experienced this in his career on the come up…now to top it off the national media is making a monkey out of him too…he is all flustered and thinks munching on his hand is the move!…next a big veteran lineman is gonna stick a c*ckmeat sandwich in his ranty ole mouth