Weird Stats From Jameis
October 10th, 2017
Jameis and tight ends.
Winning Bucs coach Dirk Koetter likes to brag that he likes tight ends, and history shows he does like to use tight ends.
Yet this may not be best for America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston. Per stats dug up by BSPN, the more tight ends on the field, the lower Jameis’ completion percentage. (See the graphic below).
Based on these stats alone, it seems Koetter’s desire to use two- and three-tight end sets may not be best for Jameis’ skill set.
Now there are all sorts of variables involved, including the unknown, such as the defensive sets used against these multiple-tight end sets, which likely plays a huge part in the completion percentage.
(Strangely, the worse Jameis’ completion percentage is, the higher his quarterback rating is, which makes zero sense to Joe and it’s a big reason why Joe wouldn’t wipe his rear end after a savage episode of diarrhea with quarterback ratings.)
October 10th, 2017 at 5:07 am
He only made 4 attempts with 3 tight ends, 2 completed for 70 yards and a touchdown. Given that 25% of those passes ended in a touchdown it’s not surprising he’s have a higher QB rating.
The other issue is how small of a sample size it is. Hard to compare 4 attempts to 117 attempts.
October 10th, 2017 at 5:37 am
WOW jameis is beasts it may not not show right now. Think about if we had a play caller like Andy Reid he could make jameis a star
October 10th, 2017 at 6:40 am
WesternBuc hit the nail on the head Joe: 3 TE sample is way too small to really be an indicator of anything. For instance, 1 more catch instead of a drop in the 1 TE & 2 TE sets makes little difference in completion %, but 1 more catch in the 3 TE set instead of an incompletion takes Jameis up to 75% completion & moves that into 1st place. Besides, I’d guess that 3 TE sets are far more likely to be used in run situations than pass situations which necessitates a whole different defensive posture. Not as ‘anti-stats’ as many appear to be, but I concur with your bottom line Joe: “wouldn’t wipe his rear end after a savage episode of diarrhea with quarterback ratings”.
October 10th, 2017 at 7:33 am
Come on Joe! You can’t dismiss all stats and ratings. Obviously, TD percentage and turnovers play a large part in the rating system. As they should. This is not weird stats at all.
October 10th, 2017 at 8:11 am
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo thinks if stats were right……everyone would have uno teta and uno cajones”
October 10th, 2017 at 8:23 am
People with a degree in journalism cannot be expected to be good at analyzing statistics. 4 is a tiny sample size.
October 10th, 2017 at 8:30 am
Even a trained Orangutan can see that the more TEs on the field – the better Winston’s QB “productivity” is. Is it really that hard to read a chart Joe? Geez.
October 10th, 2017 at 8:36 am
The problem with the 2-3 TE sets is time. TEs take longer to get open and this OL has not been giving #3 the extra half second needed at times in these slower receiver sets. The other thing I’ve noted is #3 is not moving as much in the pocket compared to 2016 and has not made that leap to step up in the pocket and pass/run. He always goes left and right which makes it easier on DL when they know that. Dak did this twice in the game v Packers where he stepped forward to run or acquire more time to allow his receivers to get open. Both plays were back breakers.
On the last play v NE, #3 threw the ball about a full second too soon. He didn’t let the play develop fully. The play should have gone to Jackson who had single coverage at the top. Instead #3 gambled to a rookie TE and lost. Learning.
October 10th, 2017 at 8:45 am
Well let’s see here.
35 attempts for 309 yards, 3 TD’s and 0 Picks.
Compare that to, 117 attempts for 879 yards, 4 TD’s and 3 Picks.
So, using basic mathematical skills, when 2 or more TE’s are on the field, Jameis averages nearly 8.9 yards per attempt, and a TD every 11.67 attempts, with no picks.
In 3 WR sets, Jameis averages 7.51 yards per attempt, a TD per every 29.25 attempts, and a pick every 39 attempts.
What exactly is so hard to understand about why his rating is higher?
October 10th, 2017 at 8:57 am
Never wrote that but do 110 percent believe quarterback ratings are the biggest joke in the game of football.
October 10th, 2017 at 8:59 am
Drafted a TE when we needed DE ?
October 10th, 2017 at 9:45 am
Winston has top tier receivers and tight ends but….. M.M. is rated in the top 10 qb rating and Winston is not even close..America’s qb ?
October 10th, 2017 at 10:17 am
ben…you’ll never get it.
October 10th, 2017 at 11:26 am
and it’s a big reason why Joe wouldn’t wipe his rear end after a savage episode of diarrhea with quarterback ratings
Real nice, Joe lol
October 10th, 2017 at 1:13 pm
my thing is his completion percentage….its basically the same as his rookie year….one thing we know is that Winston and dirk are joined at the hip….if dirk cant figure it out, the glazers will have to find someone who can…
Winston should be further along in his development….goff looks like he’s improved leaps and bounds since mcvay has arrived….wentz is looking like the real deal….dak is continuing to improve….it seems like Winston is stuck in quick sand….dirk has to be accountable….GO BUCS!!!
October 10th, 2017 at 2:48 pm
I want to see 3 WR (Evans, Jackson, Godwin/Hump), 2 TE (Brate/OJ) sets!
But … 1 RB, 2TE, 2WR sets work too and Jameis is killing it on those!
October 10th, 2017 at 3:00 pm
Those statistics are really really similar and don’t prove much of anything… really don’t see the point of this article