Trade Option: Charcandrick West
October 28th, 2017
Joe cannot take credit for this but it is a helluva idea.
The one thing the Bucs lack to move their offense to elite status is running back. You know, a guy that can both make folks miss in the open field and run like the wind?
How about Chiefs running back Charcandrick West. Buried on the depth chart behind Kareem Hunt (remember when the Bucs worked him out before the draft?), West is in his fourth NFL season and has serious wheels. Coming out of college, he ran a 4.36 and a 4.27 40-yard dash.
This idea was floated by the “ATL” crew at NFL.com. But who would the Bucs have to give up for West? How about safety T.J. Ward?
Since the Chiefs lost Eric Berry to injury, the Kansas City defense has been slowly falling apart. They need a guy like Ward badly as Kansas City likes to use a safety deep in the box. Ward is a hitter of the first order and it seems this is a perfect fit.
As recently as last night on SiriusXM NFL Radio, winning Bucs coach Dirk Koetter referred to Ward as a “rotational” player.
Meanwhile, the Bucs get a guy who is a threat to take it to the house if he gets past a tackle or two.
October 28th, 2017 at 8:01 am
Deal !
October 28th, 2017 at 8:10 am
If Ward can’t start on the Bucs D then why would he start on the Chiefs?
October 28th, 2017 at 8:11 am
I’d rather work out a deal for Jamal Charles
October 28th, 2017 at 8:15 am
I think we need a pass rusher (and a corner) much more than a running back
October 28th, 2017 at 8:22 am
This reminds me of people driving 20 miles to get 50 cents cheaper Carlton of smokes or 5 cents cheaper of gallon of gas
We should of drafted a running back on the 2nd or 3rd round and cut druggie Martin before the season and
Signed Campbell the top feline re instead of 3rd tier dollar General cheap brands
Kobe Faker
October 28th, 2017 at 8:30 am
Speaking of Campbell, now the Bills gave traded Dareus to the Jags.
October 28th, 2017 at 8:30 am
If we can dump Ward then go for it.
Throw in “Type-2” Swaggy Baker too.
October 28th, 2017 at 8:31 am
Not going to happen Joe. Maybe places like Dallas or NE where trades benefit teams but not here as for some reason the team neglects certain glaring needs while they crow about taking care of others like Licht getting the O in rather decent shape talent wise though the play calling seems to be much more effective when the opponents are up 21… And here is a prediction for 2018 Joe: Licht or whoever is GM goes heavy on defense and then the offense starts to slip, lose a couple of guys via free agency, the GM misses an obvious choice in the draft etc… Joe: the Bucs fell on the back side of the win lose carousel of the NFL and while the team is not as bad as Cleveland or Sf will likely win games nearer their level than the team who stay “ahead of the curve”; always anticipating the holes to fill at a % much higher than anyone at One Buc since the son of Coach McKay and he put the Bucs in salary cap purgatory which led us to 2017 due to ineptitude at ownership, the GM, obviously coaching and the personnel…. Tampa is still a lsoing town Joe, except for USF and the Lightning who have figured out how to stay ahead of the curve even in an off year. Their GM makes Licht look like…. umm Joe’d block me if I what I really though as it involves a short school bus…
October 28th, 2017 at 8:33 am
Jason Licht knows what he is doing he is just being crafty and his plan of not getting an RB, DE, secondary, OL, will all come together in January, he has drafted 2 LSU players the guy knows talent
October 28th, 2017 at 8:34 am
How about making a trade for a CB! You goober
October 28th, 2017 at 8:53 am
Bingo Buccaneer Scotty! The defence has been neglected for the past 3 years in the draft and now everyone wants Smitty’s head because of sub par play but let’s just keep getting more “weapons for Winston”! You can’t win in this league with 1/2 a team. If the offence can’t win after all we put into it then coach K isn’t what we thought he was and maybe Jameis isn’the either. Time to work on the D!
October 28th, 2017 at 9:02 am
That is not a good trade because we don’t need him. We need defensive help. Jacksonville just got better by getting DT Darius last night. This is after spending millions on their defensive line, which is the best in the league and leading league in sacks. The past 2 off seasons we have cut corners in free agency with our defensive line at getting Ayers and Swaggy P while Jacksonville got Campbell and the guy from Denver. Look where they are at and our entire team has 7 sacks in 6 games. You get what you pay for. Our Beast and Swaggy is not putting up the numbers they are being paid for.
October 28th, 2017 at 9:06 am
I call this “watered down Licht beer mentality”
Kobe Faker
October 28th, 2017 at 9:18 am
Well we pushed for it last off-season and #WeaponsforWinston worked and now our offense is one of the best in the NFL. Hopefully we can start a similar crusade “WeaponsforKwon!!!!!
October 28th, 2017 at 9:28 am
Man, I really wish these trade ideas J0E suggests would make more sense. We can’t even get ahead in games to allow our current RBs to play, and he wants to add another underachieving back to the team?
Meanwhile, where we are really hurting is cornerback.
October 28th, 2017 at 9:29 am
Well said Buccaneer scotty & John Herb!
October 28th, 2017 at 9:55 am
Ward can definitely start and stay in the game for this team/defense, obviously I don’t get to watch a lot of other teams because I am running up my BP watching the Bucs, how many teams rotate safeties in a game that often. It is like rotating a QB, if you got to rotate then you don’t have a true starter. Ward has been a true starter in this league and if allowed to play consistently then he would be a leader on the defense. Start Ward and Tandy and let’s see what happens, when Tandy came in last year there was an evident difference when it came to giving up big plays or touchdowns, ijs
October 28th, 2017 at 10:04 am
It makes too much sense, therefor we won’t do it. Remember when the Bucs had no running game last year (and no pass rush, but that is a separate subject…)? And what did Licht do? NOTHING, except draft a RB in the 6th rd who is no longer on the team.
But hey, we are VERY deep at linebacker!
October 28th, 2017 at 10:11 am
Trading a defensive player for an offensive player under the current state of both our defense and offense, might be one of the more ridiculous ideas I’ve heard in a while.
October 28th, 2017 at 10:13 am
Yea, we don’t need another RB who won’t even get the ball in the 2nd half. We need d-line and DB help. Especially with Grimes out this week.
October 28th, 2017 at 10:14 am
Yeah. Another RB. Exactly what we need. Especially when we’re constantly playing from behind.
October 28th, 2017 at 10:34 am
Can he rush the passer?
October 28th, 2017 at 10:44 am
Just give Barber the ball 20 times all f ing ready
What has LBlount done since he left and what did M James do when given the chance. Their Avg is their Avg and Martins Avg is his Avg . Lots of backs perform as well or better in the NFL than in College , who’s the rd in Baltimore ?Well if on the Bucs he would never have been recognized !! That I’m am very confident of !!
Give Barber the dam ball , how big of a snap shot do you have to have of Martin to figure it out . Is Barber the answer , well I don’t know but Martin def isn’t ………… look at the last two years of results !! How can a coach and GM collect millions a year and make these decisions , how soon before Robo coaching takes over , it clearly needs too!!!
October 28th, 2017 at 10:47 am
How often do player for player trades even happen in the NFL? The last one I remember was Jimmy Graham for Max Unger and there were still draft picks involved in that one.
Besides, wouldn’t trading Ward leave us with only 3 safeties on the roster? The last thing we need is a lack of depth at another DB spot.
October 28th, 2017 at 10:48 am
No way the Chefs give up West. they are a playoff team and well run organization. Hunt might be the man, but West is the relief man and insurance policy if hunt goes down or hits the rookie wall. You need depth to go deep into the playoffs.
October 28th, 2017 at 10:51 am
Now I definitely do agree that Doug Martin is not the answer to the lack of a running game. Lucky for Licht this upcoming draft class is, again, loaded with RB talent. Might even be a better class than the 2017 class.
Hopefully we can actually take advantage of that this time….
October 28th, 2017 at 10:55 am
Do the Chiefs have a need for a fat, lazy D lineman? If so I’d toss Swaggy into that deal!!!
October 28th, 2017 at 11:08 am
Bucsfanman Says:
October 28th, 2017 at 10:13 am
Yea, we don’t need another RB who won’t even get the ball in the 2nd half.
100% agree with you, Joe needs to lay off the scotch! We need Pass rushers because of that sorry GM they glorify. We can have one of our own guys get tackled in the backfield because they can’t run block half the time.
October 28th, 2017 at 11:27 am
This offense is no where near ELITE. Elite offenses scores quick and often. The Bucs offense has scored 32 points in the first half of their last 5 games combined. That’s the reason why the Bucs are always playing from behind. And the reason why they are a one dimensional offense. They need to score more points early, to keep the game competitive. Adding another RB won’t solve that problem.
October 28th, 2017 at 1:44 pm
West isn’t suddenly going to open up holes for himself back there.
Our RB is not the problem, it is the inability to open up running lanes by the offensive line. Film does not lie.
October 28th, 2017 at 1:46 pm
And the offense has a long way to go before being considered elite.
When you score a total of 5 TDs in the first half all year, there is a major problem.
We are always playing from behind, our offense can only score TDs in crunch time.
5 First half TD’s to 11 second half TDs
October 28th, 2017 at 5:48 pm
Yes. Great idea. The defense is the awful problem. So let’s trade a pro bowl safety, a defensive guy, for a 3rd string RB who has attractive 40 times.
Good grief. No trade is happening, but if one did, it should be to shore up the defense. Like a pass rusher or a corner back.
Duh.
October 28th, 2017 at 7:37 pm
This losing GM doesn’t do mid season trades no matter how much sense it makes. He’s trying to hold on to draft picks, maybe he’s thinking he’ll try and trade up in the draft for another kicker to put his team over the top lol
October 28th, 2017 at 8:17 pm
Chandric West trade would be a trade for next year when the Bucs let Doug Martin and Charles Sims go. I still can’t believe Ward can’t be in a starting spot here especially with Mike Smith who supposedly knows how to get the best out of players and scheming to their strengths. Ward’s skills may have declined which may be the reason Denver let him go.
October 28th, 2017 at 8:31 pm
Ding… ding… ding! It is impossible not to believe if Ward was any better than Chris Conte or Justin Evans that he would be more than a rotational player.
October 29th, 2017 at 10:21 am
Love this idea…