Lack Of Running Game Killing Jameis
October 1st, 2017
Former Super Bowl winner details.
Until the Bucs somehow spray pixie dust over the offensive huddle and find a running game, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston will continue to struggle.
That’s the word from former two-time Super Bowl champion and current SiriusXM NFL Radio talking head David Diehl.
The former offensive lineman of the Giants was co-hosting “The Opening Drive” earlier this week with Bob Papa, the radio voice of the Giants, talking about Jameis Winston.
To Diehl, Jameis’ struggles are clearly rooted in the impotent Bucs run game and it reared its ugly head last week in Minneapolis.
“When they haven’t been able to rely on a ground game, that is where [defenses] force Jameis Winston into making bad decisions with the football to where he thinks he can be perfect with every throw when he doesn’t have to be,” Diehl said. “When [the Bucs] have a balanced attack, when they can thrive off of the play-action, that is when Jameis Winston is at his best.”
As Joe has written, Jameis isn’t quite there yet as a quarterback able to put a team on his shoulders. Joe is beyond confident he will be one day. Just not there yet.
Which is why Joe gets the shivers thinking about today’s game.
October 1st, 2017 at 10:34 am
Dont make excuses for Jamies, he needs to be much better.
October 1st, 2017 at 10:34 am
That and his left and right tackles are average at best.
3 is fine he will be between 10-15 Best in the leauge .
October 1st, 2017 at 10:38 am
chicken or the egg…..
October 1st, 2017 at 10:40 am
Idk I feel Jameis is way better he is adjusting still to the season it could be this game he explodes and keeps firing us into the playoffs the time is coming please support our team stand up cheer your ass off all game I’m getting more and more people to join me in section 147…
October 1st, 2017 at 10:42 am
And queue the fanboys of a proven unreliable pos rb who has been bad more than good the majority of his career.
Im dying to understand how anyone can be confident in a Gerbil who has let them down and screwed his teammates over and over again the law of averages are not on your side.
October 1st, 2017 at 10:53 am
Jamies is killing Jamies Joe.
Use our bad ass TEs and Rudy on quick slants and delays and build a rhythm, then go downfield to ME an DJ.
Coach K has got to see this.
It ain’t that hard.
Go Bucs!!
October 1st, 2017 at 10:54 am
And people keep saying * what a great job the Bucs FO is doing*.
October 1st, 2017 at 11:09 am
@Dooshlarue
I’ve been saying this for some time now…..I like Koetter, but fans are giving him a pass……how can you have a running game and only run 8 times….and one of those was 3 & 1 to Sims instead of Barber.
Koetter needs to use his backs more in the passing game and short passes that will open up the run.
Jameis is too inaccurate downfield to depend on.
October 1st, 2017 at 11:14 am
Bad snaps were not helping either!!! AM74 was all over and out of the strike zone!!!!! I know joe thinks that the pass pro has been very good, but that is no the case!!!! Coaching staff knows it can be better than it has been, and the interior, 60% off the O-line has played 8 quarters in their new positions so far!!!!!! I can look at the coach on down and see that most need to preform better!!!!
October 1st, 2017 at 11:15 am
I can’t say I agree with Diehl. Lack of a running game isn’t why they got behind so badly last week; it was lack of defense. I don’t think pass coverage really got any better due to fewer carries on the ground last week either; it was three drive-killing decisions that resulted in picks, and some players who head were not in the game–lack of discipline. That said, I would agree a decent running game is typically important to being good in the passing game. And BTW, it was ONE game. The only other game, no one really commented that passing or running were not good for the Bucs.
October 1st, 2017 at 11:35 am
Stop with the excuses! Other QB’s can win games with their arms if you take away the run. I just want James to protect the football, that’s it. You said he has 9 INT’s in 5 games, that’s unacceptable. Great quarterbacks (gunslingers) can throw 2 or 3 picks and STILL throw 4 TD’s and win the game. Time for Winston to step up. Today’s the day, 2-1. Go BUCS!
October 1st, 2017 at 11:37 am
I think we should start a gofundme for tmax.
What’s the money for? To get this guy an escort, cuz he desperately needs to get laid.
October 1st, 2017 at 11:40 am
So we drafted a guy #1 overall that needs a running game or he is horrible with a ton of turnovers? So far that is 100% correct but if it continues we badly blew that pick that i was 100% is agreement with BTW.
October 1st, 2017 at 11:41 am
D@+!#,I whole heartedly agree wit Doosh..
October 1st, 2017 at 11:50 am
A win today makes all the BS go away.
October 1st, 2017 at 12:01 pm
Man.. if only Dalvin Cook was available in the first round.
Oh that’s right … he was.
But 2 catches for 29 yards and OJ Howard can block! No too shabby!!!!
October 1st, 2017 at 12:05 pm
We better use a lot of our Tight Ends today!
October 1st, 2017 at 12:07 pm
Queue the captain if loser mentality trolls. Solid assessment by Deihl, but doesn’t call for you calling someone a POS. Talk about raising standards? You have to be one the most moronic, pitful “fans” in the state. You should raise your own standards and try to make a point without denigrating the team or calling someone out of their names. Go Bucs!
October 1st, 2017 at 12:23 pm
You cant the ball down threescores very . Lack of defense is killing entire team
October 1st, 2017 at 12:24 pm
Boy, boy oh boy, the Saints 3rd round RB (Alvin Kamara) sure do look good.
October 1st, 2017 at 12:59 pm
Dooshlarue Says:
October 1st, 2017 at 10:53 am
Jamies is killing Jamies Joe.
Use our bad ass TEs and Rudy on quick slants and delays and build a rhythm, then go downfield to ME an DJ.
Coach K has got to see this.
It ain’t that hard.
Go Bucs!!
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NOSBOS Says:
October 1st, 2017 at 11:41 am
D@+!#,I whole heartedly agree wit Doosh..
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Amen to both comments!! C’mon DK and offense. Kindly show up today. You guys aren’t the walking wounded. C’mon Tampa Bay!!
October 1st, 2017 at 1:08 pm
This is the first time on JBF that a lot of people are starting to turn on Winston. Can we all just remember that Winston is only 23 years old. He’s still only the second or third youngest starting QB in the league. We had no run game last week and then we got behind and Minnesota knew we had to throw. Winston was throwing the ball well but made some bad decisions because he knew we needed to score quickly to get back in the game. I’m also tired of hearing that the Minnesota game was just like the Arizona game last year. It wasn’t even close. In Arizona, Winston couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. He was terrible. He played 10X better against the Vikings, just a couple of bad decisions. Go back and watch both games if you think I’m wrong. He IS improving, just not at the pace a lot of you think he should. If he’s still making bad decisions when he’s 26, that’s a different story. Just give him time before you write him off.
October 1st, 2017 at 1:15 pm
Eric 75 the results were the same and that’s all that matters. Listen I love the kid and wanted him here but I see what I see. That first pick to Djax lost the game period and that is not good enough.
October 1st, 2017 at 1:16 pm
Lol I love how ya’ll turn this in to an indictment on Jameis. Besides Brady and Rodgers what QBs today don’t play worse with a bad running game? Where are all the fans who swore up and down we’d be alright with just Rodgers. Clearly Doug even with his issues is in another stratosphere than our other RBs. Idk how we expect these long taking big plays Dirk likes to work if there’s no threat from our backs.
October 1st, 2017 at 1:22 pm
Eric 75 is absolutely correct, plus we should have more patience with our team than non bucs fans. I mean y’all acting like we got Cutler, Dalton or Glennon lol. Yeah Lakelandbuc a few rookie rbs are looking good so far, I just pray Justin Evans isn’t a bust because that pick is gonna look real bad if he doesn’t become productive.
October 1st, 2017 at 2:05 pm
Not turning on my guy in the slightest,I just agree wit what Doosh stated. Makes plenty good sense to me. It’s year three fam and if you haven’t noticed dudes like Deshaun Watson send to already have this check down thing down. He’s working the titans right now,the other QB on the field many here love to jock looking kinda pedestrian.
October 1st, 2017 at 2:12 pm
I’m sure AP would love to carry the rock for the Bucs.
October 1st, 2017 at 2:16 pm
Ndog, yes, the results were the same, but were talking about a players performance. Winston was straight up terrible against Arizona. If you take away the INTs against Arizona, he still played terrible. If you take away the INTs against Minnesota, he played a good game. He is improving, just not at the pace you would like. The first INT was a bad throw, I’ll give you that. The second INT is more on DJax than Winston. The third INT was a bad decision, but a good throw through 3 defenders that hit Evans in the hands. Maybe if we weren’t down 3 scores, Winston would have checked down to Humphries on that play. We will never know. All I know is the Arizona game was all bad throws, and the Minnesota game was a lot of good throws with a few score related bad decisions. Watch both games. It’s not even close.
October 1st, 2017 at 2:38 pm
Jameis is killing Jameis!! Agreed don’t make excuses for his inaccuracy. Almost a touchdown doesn’t count in the stats and if everyone around the league looks forward to him throwing the football it’s a problem. At the very least to me it means he is not yet America’s quarterback. No one else on the planet think or says that except joebucsfan.
October 1st, 2017 at 2:41 pm
Mariota threw 2 picks in the 1st half against Houston. I guess you guys would be pissed if we had him too.
October 1st, 2017 at 2:47 pm
Not there yet, I never made excuses about inaccuracy, I only told facts.. I never said anything was almost a TD. The Giants were the only team that said they look forward to him throwing the ball, not “everyone around the league”. Calm down, tough guy, plenty of time for him to improve. Re-read my posts.
October 1st, 2017 at 2:52 pm
Guess this defeats the whole BPA argument. Sure OJ was BPA, but we needed an RB and a great one was right there for the taking, two counting Hunt. Hope we get 2012/2015 Doug next week.
October 1st, 2017 at 2:52 pm
We went out and got DJax, who could have really helped our running game, IF we were able to hit him on a deep ball.
Because of our inability to hit him deep so far, teams are still stacking the box against us, making it hard to run.
We need Jameis to hit DJax deep a few times, and make other teams respect the deep ball. Until then, it will be more of the same.
October 1st, 2017 at 3:00 pm
Chris, I watched both games twice and I never saw 8 or more in the box except on “down and short”. Even on 1st and 10, Safteys we’re playing off. I do agree with you, though. Winston needs to hit DJ deep.
October 1st, 2017 at 3:10 pm
The Jets has a good looking 6th round rookie RB ( Elijah McGuire).
October 1st, 2017 at 3:16 pm
Dalvin cook is out with what looks like a serious knee injury while oj howard is still playing. Looks like cook’s injury concerns pre draft have come to light.