“I’m Going To Count On Them Til The Day I Die”
October 22nd, 2017
Ask America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, a question about his shoulder and you’ll get a strange response.
After today’s game, on the second question of his postgame news conference, Jameis was asked how his injured shoulder feels. “It’s tough to lose,” Jameis replied, which was his same answer to the initial general question sent his way during the same media session.
Yes, Jameis, it’s tough to lose. Nothing else matters. We get it, chatting with media after a loss is an annoying exercise, part of feeding passionate fans what they crave.
Jameis isn’t always orthodox in his approach with media. On Friday, he fired a football at a crowd of working media covering practice, a ball that hit Rock Riley (@realrockriley) in the arm. Last year, visibly annoyed by media questions about his ankle, Jameis waited until news conference cameras ended and then did a dance and directed an agitated retort to a reporter.
Jameis, however, did not show a shred of frustration about the Bucs’ ugly defense after today’s game. He was composed and professional. Jameis said they’ll get it fixed and added his career-long support.
“I’m going to count on them til the day I die,” Jameis said of the defense.
Back in the glory years of Bucs football, the Tampa Bay defense grew openly frustrated with the offense because it was so inept game after game, year after year. The 2016 Bucs defense carried the team through its heroic five-game winning streak last season, but it’s since fallen apart.
It’s tough for all fans, including Joe, to deal with these back-to-back crushing losses. But it is at least a little good to see Jameis saying the right things about the rest of the team when he’s dealing with extreme stress.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:12 pm
sorry jameis but cancer93 and his band of losers will let you down every time. it’s a shame. but true.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:13 pm
In Jameis we trust!
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:14 pm
Anyone that counts on the Bucs defense gets the “lost decade”.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:16 pm
Sorry Jameis. That is like trusting in a boat with a huge hole in the hull.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:17 pm
i’d rather count on Glennon than a GMC led defense and most know my feelings about the horrible mike glennon
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:17 pm
Jw is the MAN of this team ever since he got drafted. Surrounding him with mentally loser like GMC is going to rub off on him if they keep gmc anywhere near him
Whoever think jw is the problem needs to get a book about football basics and read it with a glass of milk.
Glazers. You can’t mix winning spirits with players from losing cultures or you will get mix results. More likely on that loss column
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:18 pm
Tmaxcon I would not go that far as to Gleenon. Oh wait maybe i will
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:19 pm
GM has proven year after year he’s clueless, especially finding defensive players. DC Smith is Lovie 2.0. GMC is always the common denominator on a losing Bucs team and Koetter is proving he’s not HC material. Nothing will change until GM Licht is fired and GMC is gone. I don’t even bother watching games anymore. Losing is their culture. They alway find a way to lose. Their will was broken years ago.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:19 pm
I will cuz bears benched loser Glennon and now the bears are enjoying the fruits. How about that Koetter?
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:20 pm
I think I’m changing gmcs name from ice cream to cheap hooker. Mr. Cheap Hooker! Cuz anyone one can score with no resistance.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:21 pm
Yeah well GMC aint the leader of this defense guy. It’s Kwon and he flat out sucked today.
Aside from that our secondary blows coverages on a weekly basis which is always the final dagger for this defense.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:22 pm
DB55
please don’t a cheap hooker can be your best friend. especially if you don’t want a headache or to cuddle… I think I am going to call him Barbie out of respect of his love of dolls.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:22 pm
Idc if gmc was von miller. If von miller was in the same shoes as gmc even with his career stats u still have to get rid of them losing culture Rembrandts. U can’t move on until u do
Idc if it’s Michael Jordan when u went thru what gmc went thru u cannot built around him
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:23 pm
Winston I wish you would play a whole foot ball game instead of half like you actually cared about winning…..
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:24 pm
Walk the walk # 3….tired of Talk the talk…
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:24 pm
Where’s the start Fitz crowd?…lol…GO BUCS!!!!
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:24 pm
How is this even anything about gmc… geez I feel like it was busted coverages I blame DC for this loss and the loss before that and the loss at vines … idk I think Jameis is getting better and better only a matter of time before it clicks and Jameis is unstoppable
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:25 pm
jimmyjack
go check the definition of Team Captain if you can’t read I believe you can click the speaker to listen to it… Kwon is a 3rd round pick. GMC is a multiyear captain and failure. He is a 3rd overall 1st round pick and career loser who is a selfish, self proclaimed leader and face of the franchise when in reality he is a POS fraud and a career loser who has a good first step but could not finish anything
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:25 pm
@AlteredEgo he did walk the walk today.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:26 pm
Back to Joes post
Unfortunately Jw we have count on them too. Jw ur battle cry is going on deaf ears. Gmc wants no part of it. Cancer93 is full fledged
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:27 pm
Tmaxcon
Kwon was 4th round pick which makes it worse
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:27 pm
Pryda…sec 147
everything is about gmc. GMC IS THE LOSING CULTURE AND THE UNDISPUTED FACE OF THE BASMENT YEARS…. gmc and the rest of the holdovers do not know how to win. they have never won anything in their careers. out with the old and let the young grow…. cancer93 must go.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:29 pm
Last week its VHIII who is the scapegoat and this week its GMC.
Agreed they each played poorly in those games but at the same time we are wildly unprepared with multiple blown assignments. This team is consistently out of position and obvisously poorly coached.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:29 pm
larmarcus
thanks for the correction… yeah it’s pathetic kwon get’s held to a higher standard than the highest paid career loser and 3rd over all pick free pass mccoy.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:30 pm
Tmax
13 mil per year not so cheap is it? Check just got deposited for today’s game. $812,500 for 1 tackle.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:30 pm
Don’t Hide!!!
@realist!!!!!!
@LC!!!!
I want to hear you hold Smitty accountable!!!!… don’t make excuses!!!… Dirk called a good game!!!…VHG played great!!!!…the defense is trash and it ain’t the players!!!!it’s the coach!!!… Dirk needs to tell Smitty play 34 or hit the door!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:30 pm
jimmyjack
then the captains need to get in the face of the violators on field they are the coaches on the field and need to hold players accountable.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:31 pm
Jamies
You are fantastic and I am 100% convinced you will become the best QB in the NFL, but right now you have the worst defense in the NFL on the other side of the ball.
You can’t win with an awful defense.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:31 pm
DB55
that’s money well spent. he’s good in the community lol
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:32 pm
Gmc needs to go. Ur boy is done
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:36 pm
Joe I heard TJ ward went off in the locker room about his playing time. Is that true?
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:36 pm
Being a team captain dont have nothing to do with being a leader.
But thats not even the point. The point I’m trying to make is how unprepared this team is……….We had tons of coverage breakdowns last year and they are still not fixed. How in the world can the coaching explain why we didnt even bother covering the sideline on that 50yard play? Or not cover an entire endzone last week………Why is TJ Ward trying to cover a TE and not even in a proper position? This defense looks ridicilous from head to toe buddy. I dont care who the team captain is. It doesnt matter when our players dont even know their assignments.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:37 pm
And anyone hear wants throw gmc stats out there needs an ass whoopings. Those said stats are trash.
Qb pressures? Idk if that’s even a thing. Accountablility is tho
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:37 pm
Play 34…put GMC at DE… McDonald at NT…Ghloston at DE…use Spence..LVD…Kwon…beckwith as linebackers and let the cbs play at the LOS!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:37 pm
Tj ward and djx are divas. I doesn’t surprise me. Both need to go.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:39 pm
Db55
That’s actually gmc is teaching his boys. We need an exit strategy by today by demand for gmc
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:43 pm
JW failed in First half. …we got 6 vs 14.
Fitz would do better.
JW needs a coach to read the Field and change up his throwing stance,
He Overthrows to much/forces …and is late .
Fitzpatrick might help if JW will let Fitz que him on technique.
D is toast. ….Smith is retirement cul-de-sac and fishing.
The D cost us today. …yet it’s not the full story.
There’s a reason Atlanta dumped both these coaches…..they can’t can’t can’t. ..
Make adjustments!
Now we are dining on ashes.
Glazer/GM needed to bring in Def rush ends .
This loss today is on you…..yes you. …The team had months to fix,…you did G’D nothing!
Go fishing for Marlin…..the seasons over.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:50 pm
@Brad Isherwood really dude? So Fitz is our guy then? Make sure you tell Koetter that. I’m sure he needs that expert advice.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:53 pm
They’re just not as tired of losing as we are.
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:56 pm
Enjoy your slow painful death with this CRAP SHOW
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:57 pm
Those complaint about 3 instead on the first drive must’ve forgot about the hands to the face by Marpet and the delay of game, that’s 20 yards backwards when we were in the Bills territory.
October 22nd, 2017 at 7:01 pm
It really doesn’t matter what Fitz would or could have done, he is not the FUTURE…Fitz is the 34 year old VET and we are glad for what he can do, but he is not the face of a team for other non tangibles.
BUCS look bad but in some areas we maybe moving forward…it is all apart of the PROCESS! Offense is not shrinking they are grinding, hopefully, when the defense click we will be above par…
October 22nd, 2017 at 7:04 pm
The offense lost the game period. That fumble is the bucs season right now.
October 22nd, 2017 at 7:16 pm
Nole what in the heck are you talking about? When the defense starts to click??? You cant be serious. They have been playing in this same defense for 22 games now.
No way no how it should take this long. They havent looked consistently good in 1 1/2 years now and to expect then to magically “click” is just naive at best.
October 22nd, 2017 at 7:31 pm
Simply put…if Jameis played good enough the team would have won….the only stat…of course as QB he should have passed for 320 yards and 3 TD’s….it is the missed chances that tell the tale
October 22nd, 2017 at 7:36 pm
He went ahead by 7 with three minutes left and had the ball with 2 minutes left with a tied game. What’d he do wrong again?
October 22nd, 2017 at 7:38 pm
Maybe you just still want Mariota? He go the win. Didn’t get in the endzone. His kicker had all 12 points. That sound better to you?
October 22nd, 2017 at 7:39 pm
AlteredEgo Says:
October 22nd, 2017 at 7:31 pm
Simply put…if Jameis played good enough the team would have won….the only stat…of course as QB he should have passed for 320 yards and 3 TD’s….it is the missed chances that tell the tale
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Idiot please show me the last q.b with 100 or even 90% completion rate.
Being up 7 with 3 minutes left should be enough.
380 y 3 tds 116 q.b rating. What in the actual duck?!?!
October 22nd, 2017 at 7:40 pm
And it was 385 yards not 320.
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:14 pm
Jameis had a great second half but,he put the ball in the defenses hands
four times .If it wasn’t for Djax and Evans he would have four turnovers.
That is not coaching,it is execution.Failure to put the ball where only the
WR can catch it.
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:21 pm
Maybe you should watch tonight’s game. You all seem to think Brady and Ryan only throw perfect passes all game long. Let’s see how many times the defense should intercept and doesn’t.
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:31 pm
jameis played pretty good today. But saying he is counting on the Defense until he dies is quite a stretch. This Defense can’t stop baby strollers filled with rocks.
Lets put the blame squarely where it Belongs. Coach Koetter please take the witness stand. Followed by DC Smith. After the verdict is read, The Glazers will issue…final checks!
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:36 pm
Up 27-20 with 3 mins left in the game and the Bills go 75 yds in 45 secs to tie the game up. That’s on the defense.
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:42 pm
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It might be time for future 1st ballot HOF’er Jameis to start being more Kobe Bryant and less Magic Johnson … this T-E-A-M surrounding him does seem extremely mentally weak and while Magic was perfection with stars around him, it was Kobe that could carry a bunch of garbage like Kwame Brown and Smush Parker to the playoffs and almost upset the best team in the conference.
I believe Jameis is a Magic Johnson like leader, a guy who truly “loves”, not just “manages” his teammates … but … if those teammates are incapable of playing winning football, Jameis may need to adopt that “Mamba Mentality” and start calling for heads to roll (i.e. trades, firings, etc).
I have no real doubt that Jameis will go down as one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game of football and that, barring serious injury, will retire as the NFL’s all-time leader in passing yards & TD passes … but Marino was both of those things at one time and he never won a single ring … so … just being a great QB isn’t enough … you need a T-E-A-M around you!
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October 22nd, 2017 at 9:24 pm
Well said NFLNUT, well said!
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:27 pm
Am I naive or what?
Well said NFLNUT, well said!
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:34 pm
Thanks bro … these trolls are the type of people that wouldn’t know a Hall of Fame quarterback if he were sitting across from them teaching them math.
The type of people that think Jeff Hostettler, Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer were better quarterbacks than Dan Fouts, Dan Marino and Warren Moon simply because one team they were on for one year won one ring and those other three guys (i.e. three of the best pure passers the game has ever seen) never were on a team that in one season won one ring.
Nonsensical loons … every single one of them.
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:40 pm
Russell Wilson is my favorite QB, going back to his days at NC State. 60-25-1 record, has never missed a snap in 86 games. Has never missed the playoffs, 2 Super Bowl appearances. Stats don’t mean anything, only wins count. The Bucs are not a talented team, no way. Jason Licht is a poor excuse for a GM, he’s not building this team at all.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:01 pm
Hey “Brad Isherwood ”
Jameis completed 73% of his passes today w ZERO RUNNING GAME AND A SIEVE FOR A DEFENSE!!! So get your facts right. Jameis put us in a position to win and by the way had Marpet not had a 15 yard penalty on the opening drive and snapped the ball at Jameis’s ankles on the second drive the Bucs might have scored two TD’s . All our weapons including OJ caught at least 5 passes and u have an issue w our Qb? U guys r insane!!!
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:08 pm
There’s alterEgo with more stupidity than most of us can’t handle. Did you miss the 20 yards of penalties on the opening drive? Did you miss the sack in their territory when smith got blown up that led to the fumble? It’s like you don’t even watch the game. Troll harder
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:46 pm
Jameis how about you worry about throwing an accurate deep ball. I have seen about 10 tds and 400 yards sail over receivers heads just this year. And the throw to sims on 3rd down when he was running down the sideline wide open that was clutch. You hit the nachos out of a women’s hand in the second row. It’s like your not even trying anymore it’s getting to the point of laughable when you try to throw a deep ball. You wind up and unload 31 other teams would get excited like something great is about to happen. I’m just laugh and wonder if it is going to stay in the field of play. But he threw for 384 yards will be the article tomorrow. Yeah it should have 2 more picks if Evans and desean didn’t bail you out. And we can we stop the Adam humphries screens usually they get tackled for no gain. I got an idea if your going to do a screen how about using one of are three wide receivers that run a sub 4.4 40.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:57 pm
The plays you are referring to is characteristic of plays by over 31 other QB’s that hit the field at any given game…but of course it is unacceptable if it is JW. Those receivers is doing their job like any other
talented receiver.
Bail out is not the definition of TEAM WORK!
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:26 am
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LakeLand,
Russell Wilson is severely over-rated … the guy gets carried by a great defense.
TEAM wins are just that, TEAM wins.
Now, I’m not saying Wilson sucks, not at all, he’s a quality QB … but quoting his team’s win-loss record as some sort of verification of his individual talent is just dumb. Switch he and Luck and Luck would have at least 2 rings and Wilson wouldn’t even have a single Conference title appearance that Luck has imho.
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October 23rd, 2017 at 2:08 pm
I feel this rumbling in stomach. S**t! just up-chuckaneered! This is the effect the Defense of this team has on me. Burp!