Bucs Not Eager To Can Folk
October 8th, 2017
Job security?
It seems the Bucs are content to keep a choke artist of a kicker.
That’s the word from Ian Rapoport of NFL Network in a new video report from Rapoport. He says Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht doesn’t have an itchy trigger finger to unload futile Nick Folk, even though he did his best to tank the Giants game last week and thoroughly shat the bed like a sick dog against the Belicheats Thursday night.
Why? Because, per Rapoport, the Bucs fear the kickers on the street are worse than Folk.
“It is not like the Bucs are thrilled with what’s out there on the free agent market,” Rapoport said.
Rapoport confirmed two kickers the Bucs are flying in today for a workoout tomorrow at One Buc Palace. One is former Bucs kicker Mike Nugent, who in his brief career here kicked more like Ted Nugent, connecting on just a third of his kicks. Nugent was supposed to replace Matt Bryant in 2009. We all know how that worked out.
Also, Rapoport stated the Bucs are bringing in former Dolphins kicker Andrew Franks, who put up far better numbers with the Dolphins than Folk has with the Bucs.
You can watch Rapoport’s full video report below.
A look at what the #Bucs are doing with K Nick Folk and who is coming in for workouts on Monday: pic.twitter.com/WF7iDdUfJU
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) October 6, 2017
October 8th, 2017 at 3:13 am
gramatica or donald igwebueke
October 8th, 2017 at 3:17 am
no word on dan carpenter?
October 8th, 2017 at 3:17 am
Funny Dolphin fan at work was telling me we should get Franks. He said he was a very reliable kicker anything under 50. He just doesn’t have the leg for long kicks. I’m like good then he’s hired. We don’t need to be kicking 50 yarders anywho. Nor should many teams in the NFL. Go get em! Go Bucs!
October 8th, 2017 at 3:30 am
I’ll take Pat Murray over Folk all day.
I remember him being decent. Folk on the other hand has been a walking travesty.
Fire him immediately.
October 8th, 2017 at 3:33 am
🙂
October 8th, 2017 at 4:14 am
Said it before and I’ll say it again. I think it’s the holder that’s in his head. Dudes a great punter but he can’t place the ball in the sweet spot accurately consistently. I think that’s why Jacksonville got rid of him. I know i read it or heard it somewhere I just can’t remember from who. It was said when he left their field goal kicking issues improved greatly. It kills me we haven’t tried to change the holder yet. Maybe the chemistry just isn’t there.
October 8th, 2017 at 4:23 am
Joe, why don’t the Bucs call in Marvin Kloss, the Groza finalist from USF. The kid is still living in Tampa and would be an upgrade over Folk. He has a strong leg and did not crap the bed in crunchtime at USF albeit he played on a couple of bad USF teams where his kicks would beat the likes of UConn or Cincy 13-10. He would have made that 31 yarder on Thursday and likely would have drilled the 49 yarder as well. One other thing, the kid has kicked at RJS before so for what it is worth One Buc should at least let the kid tryout with Nugent and the Fins kicker. Heck, make Folk try out as well!
October 8th, 2017 at 4:25 am
Erc2706:
If holder why does he do so well in practice, Dude career is up and down, he is down now. hos kicks aren’t even missing close
He needs to go !!! if not we will lose another game due to his kicking and with this lack of offense many games wil be close and every point counts.
October 8th, 2017 at 5:25 am
He’s worse than Aguayo at this point. I know it’s crazy and would take things to a new level as far as creating an even bigger circus, but it would be interesting to bring Aguayo back to have another shot. Seriously, would he do worse than Folk?–never going to happen though.
October 8th, 2017 at 5:25 am
Sign Destroying)))
October 8th, 2017 at 5:48 am
I always wondered if it could be the holder and if they tried anyone else. It’s quite astronomical that we got the two worst kickers in the NFL in back to back years….
October 8th, 2017 at 5:58 am
Keeping him means we’ve given up on the season.
October 8th, 2017 at 6:09 am
I miss Connor Barth.
I miss Matt Bryant.
Aguayo, I just pity.
October 8th, 2017 at 7:19 am
Are you kidding me? How can any of them be worse. His confidence is shot. A kicker with confidence issues is useless. Fine done like the kickers on the street, call up Joe Dirt and let him kick. He can’t possibly do any worse than 0-3.
October 8th, 2017 at 7:43 am
Keeping Folk???……Are we tanking for Saquon Barkley already???
October 8th, 2017 at 7:44 am
Another botch from Licht.
Lets be honest wouldn’t you rather have Roberto than Folk?
And its not to say Roberto is good. At least if he was sucking we could just hope he turns it around.
We traded up for him and then gave up on him in one year. Make no mistake about it if Licht knew Folk would struggle this much he’d never cut Roberto. Licht has dropped the ball on kickers two years in a row.
October 8th, 2017 at 7:59 am
Just bring Aguayo back! Folk is washed and is folking it up out there. Good teams don’t hang on to garbage.
October 8th, 2017 at 8:08 am
Any kicker with confidence is better than folk right now. If you want more missed kicks send folk back out. The 10 day breaks only gona make him worse. He is not even kicking the ball on the correct part of the foot. Not sure how they could consider keeping him. Gota find one and hope he has confidence. Sending folk back out would be another travashamockery. Go Bucs
October 8th, 2017 at 8:11 am
Patrick Murray kicked the ball like one hits a penalty kick in Soccer. It was a cannon shot so to speak, approached low over the ball, often barely clearing the line and never seemed to have the backwards tumble we see from striking the ball low. He also didn’t have much range. He wasn’t bad, but I do recall some of his higher percentage kicks were way too close for comfort.
At the end of the day, the Bucs cut kickers usually for a good reason, althoug Dominik apparently just didn’t like Matt Bryant and Matt didn’t hesitate to speak his mind.
October 8th, 2017 at 8:13 am
I remember Mike Nugent, and didn’t remember him as being that bad…for other teams. Of course, he’s a household name. I told my wife he was Ted Nugent’s son, and if she looked hard could see the resemblance. Had her going for at least a little bit.
October 8th, 2017 at 8:22 am
I’m not eager to get new coaches, but there’s been a two year life cycle. Better win! Glazers are impatient and Gruden said “call me if you need me, I’m right down the road”. Better make the right decision!
October 8th, 2017 at 8:23 am
Okay, so I look at Mike Nugent’s stats with CIN for the last 7 years, and his numbers seem decent. His long is 58 yards. I do see he had some problems last year at CIN, which clearly meant his demise…he missed five PATs in five games.
He was taken in by NYG this year but lost a pre-season competition and was cut. I’d say try him out.
October 8th, 2017 at 8:31 am
I am trying to imagine a world full of unemployed kickers all worse than Folk. Do they kick backwards? With their eyes closed?
I have faith in Licht, but it will diminish greatly if they allow Folk to cost them again. And, no doubt, he will if he ever kicks for them again.
October 8th, 2017 at 8:33 am
Mike Nugent would be solid competition for Folk. His an established veterans too.
October 8th, 2017 at 8:50 am
Licht really putting himself out there if he hangs onto Folk and the guys costs us more games like Roberto did last year.
I’m a fan of sticking with your employees, but when they cost you business you HAVE to move on.
October 8th, 2017 at 9:01 am
Get the Folk outta here….
How this guy was not canned on Friday is beyond me. Anyone and I mean ANYONE with 1/2 a leg would be a better choice for us right now than Nick Folk.
October 8th, 2017 at 9:04 am
Bucs not eager to let Folk go? Ok Mediocrity!!! Accept your fate. Fall back into the…8-8 is wonderful syndrome.
October 8th, 2017 at 9:10 am
There are literally dozens of college kickers who graduate from college. I guarantee ALL of them have a better make rate. Grab any of them. For goodness sakes. I’d take Aguayo back at this point! His rate is way higher and we’re STILL paying him.
October 8th, 2017 at 9:15 am
Bring in Kloss!!!
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/marvin-kloss-message-to-bucs-i-live-3-minutes-away/2340174
October 8th, 2017 at 9:16 am
Is George Yarno is available?
October 8th, 2017 at 9:16 am
Bucs are content with mediocrity, just like some people posting on this board.
October 8th, 2017 at 9:20 am
This isn’t on Licht, this is in Koetter, he wanted Aquayo gone last year! No way they give up on Folk now, Dirk’s too hardheaded and won’t admit he made another coaching mistake keeping this guy. I agree with the guy that said being in Kloss, but was money for USF.
October 8th, 2017 at 9:21 am
This is just too damn funny………you just gotta laugh at this mess.
When Kyle Brindza cost the bucs a couple of games, were in this situation, hence the Aguayo pick (worst pick ever)……and I was all in on it thinking just like JL and alota bucs fans that our kicking woes were solved for the next decade.
Now, two seasons later…………HERE WE GO AGAIN.
Maybe trying to find a kicker is like trying to find a franchise QB……….they’re few and far between??????
October 8th, 2017 at 9:28 am
Folk is mentally shot. He’s been shakey…even on the one’s he has snuck between the uprights. Time to move on…he’s not even close right now.
October 8th, 2017 at 9:35 am
I know it’s not an ideal situation, but why not have a Veteran kicker (Folk, Carpenter, Nugent) on the roster, then get one of these kids who never got a shot outside of preseason on the Practice Squad, so the team can get a long extended look at one of these younger guys, not just a brief tryout. From what I’ve read, the team doesn’t want to look at younger guys because they don’t have a resume in the NFL, and would rather get a known commodity, even though the ceiling may be much lower for that veteran player.
What I really don’t want to see is us be back in this situation 2-4 weeks from now; a kicker making less than half of his kicks; and starting from scratch again regarding who to turn to to play the position. Let’s get a young guy on the PS, and be ready in case we need him.
October 8th, 2017 at 9:48 am
Licht and Koetter REALLY need to think this thing over. What does it say to your team if you keep this guy around? I would can him and bring in someone else if not anything but for the morale of the team! If a guy can suck wind and costs you games all the players who played hard are watching this.
October 8th, 2017 at 9:50 am
I’m ready ti can Folks. Can McCoy kick? What about Not having a kicker. Just punt or go for it on 4th down. We stand a better chance that way. Anger can handle punts and kickoff. Unless they find out that Folk have correctable mechanics, then he has to go. Rappin’ Iaport is usually right. I would give Franks a chance. I saw his name attached to other reports and he sounds like a possibility.
For those that think long snapper or holder is a problem, then look at the games on Game Rewind. Nothing wrong with either.
October 8th, 2017 at 9:50 am
Bears took another look at Roberto last week, brought him in for another tryout after Connor Barf shanked 2 47 yarders and is 2 for 4 this season.
October 8th, 2017 at 9:54 am
Uh oh my new 65″ Sony TV is in jeopardy….
October 8th, 2017 at 9:56 am
The only reason Folk is on the roster is because they don’t have a replacement.
Can’t can your only kicker, regardless of how bad he is.
October 8th, 2017 at 9:59 am
Somewhere Lawrence Tynes is laughing his butt off…”it’s a Bucs life”
October 8th, 2017 at 10:14 am
If Jason Licht keeps Nick Folk. Jason Licht should be let go.
October 8th, 2017 at 10:40 am
Will it ever end??? smdh man..
October 8th, 2017 at 10:48 am
Winning games is overrated
October 8th, 2017 at 10:51 am
If we keep Folk then we’re going for the top PK/OL/DL in the draft.
October 8th, 2017 at 11:00 am
Seriously? How the HELL can Coach Koetter continue to trust this guy? Every time he trots out there he seems to GET trots kicking the freaking ball wide somewhere. What is wrong with trying someone NOT “proven” because if “proven” is Folk or Negent I’ll take a young guy like Kloss. Damn, how FRU
TRATING!!!!
October 8th, 2017 at 11:08 am
The field is set. Mike Nugent, Andrew Franks, and Josh Lambo. Competition rigged for Folk to win. SMDH.
October 8th, 2017 at 11:53 am
It’s not rocket science there’s a kicker who’s been waived injured by KC, Cairo Santos. He’s been their kicker for the last 3 years. He’s really good, but since his contract is up this year KC moved on. Just sign him and wait for him to get healthy. Maybe 2 to 3 weeks and you have a above average kicker. In the mean time bring in someone to bridge the gap.
October 8th, 2017 at 12:05 pm
Arguayo?
October 8th, 2017 at 12:13 pm
I read that 4-5 kickers are being brought in Monday. Not just two.
And did they ever replace Smith? If not, we have room for two.
I think they should cut Folk and sign the two best kickers available. Give it a week or so to see which will do the best job.
October 8th, 2017 at 12:31 pm
Hmm where did all the Aguayo Haters go?
October 8th, 2017 at 12:42 pm
Eagles and Chiefs found undrafted rookie kickers just a few weeks ago who are doing very well. Licht can’t find one that’s even decent?!
October 8th, 2017 at 12:52 pm
There’s not much out there because all of our previous kickers that were solid are now on other teams. Go figure.
October 8th, 2017 at 12:54 pm
@First Down. They just turned into Folk haters. Count me among the bunch. It’s pretty clear for a kicker. He has one job and that is to kick FG’s. This isn’t like McCoy who is still being effective simply by eating up double teams and allowing the other 3 guys one on one chances to get to QB.
October 8th, 2017 at 1:21 pm
All the ex collage kickers out there bring in a few of them. Give someone that has not had a shot a shot at it. What do we have to losses
October 8th, 2017 at 1:22 pm
BIG SHOUT OUT TO YET ANOTHER WAY THAT MARK DUMMYNICK F@CKED THIS TEAM OVER!
-Matt Bryant
October 8th, 2017 at 1:41 pm
Is 61 year old Eddie (money) Murray in shape?
October 8th, 2017 at 1:52 pm
The Bucs bring in Mike Nugent for a tryout..They cut Matt Bryant 8 years ago for Mike Nugent. Then cut Nugent after 4 games, which he went 2-6 on FG. Now 8 years later they bring him in for a tryout. SMH
October 8th, 2017 at 2:05 pm
Nick Aquayo
October 8th, 2017 at 2:11 pm
I still can’t believe that out of all the kickers out of college as well a CFL, AFL and hell even semi pro teams have kickers who can make a freaking FG. But we can’t find anyone who can do the job. SMH.
So, in 2 games we have left 16 points on the field because of Folks misses. The Bucs are fine with it and are keeping Mr. Unreliable. That is a sign to me that losing is acceptable and expected.
2-2 record and too many people say fans that are negative…. well deal with it! This team should be 3-1 if not 4-0. I am a true fan but I am not an apologist who is going to defend actions and decisions that lead to more losses. All kickers miss sometimes but where is the line in the Sand?
October 8th, 2017 at 2:28 pm
Exactly rayjay
6 misses in 2 games (for a total of 16 points!) is unacceptable to any franchise that is serious about winning.
October 8th, 2017 at 3:03 pm
For Licht, drafting Roberto was a potential job-costing move, keeping Folk should be viewed the same way.
They can’t possibly keep him. Truly, there are better H.S. kickers.
October 8th, 2017 at 3:38 pm
I agree that we shouldn’t keep picking up retreads but joe many young guys that did well in college are out there? X amount of teams all with their own kicker. It’s only been a few months since college finished. You are telling me not a single one would be better than Folk?
October 8th, 2017 at 4:56 pm
Pretty sure the Bucs will bring in guys we know, and guys NO ONE knows. And hopefully, for ALL, someone NO ONE knows will be guys like Nugent out. Then the Bucs can shrug and say they picked a bunch to come in, and we know them too, and they picked the best of that. And the winner goes to Phoenix to kick indoors for his first game (in the NFL?).
October 8th, 2017 at 5:23 pm
With all that is going on, and the fact that the Glazer’s once again made a decision to put/keep people in charge that we have now. This will also be an evaluation time for this regime as well, and for the bucs fans who thought the HC change “Had” to be made; just stay tuned. Second round draft pick mistakes? Only defensive end threat you have waived? And a more that winnable game called very poorly on Thursday night that featured a running back that; I’ll just say, there was not a whole lot of confidence in him to come back and be effective, how do you feel now? So we will see if the Jason and Dirk show is just another Glazer mistake?? “GO BUCS”
P.S. There’s more wrong with this team, than just kicking!!!!
October 8th, 2017 at 6:09 pm
Yeah. That fact that some are saying the best drafting gm we’ve ever had shouls be fired over a kicker????
Fair weather fans.
I refuse to believe true Bucs fans could be so stupid.
As to other kickers, aren’t the posts closer together in the cfl?
October 8th, 2017 at 6:23 pm
Am I the only one that sees repeated bad holds by anger? Because they’re bad. Not saying it’s the reason but just replace anger as holder. Period
October 8th, 2017 at 6:39 pm
@Broy what make you say that?
On the broadcast, Jay Feely said the holds were perfect and that Folk is turning his foot early. He also pointed out that he’s lifting his head before following through because he’s not confident in his motion (same as Agauyo). Cobraboy was a kicker and noticed the same things, not issues with the holder.
October 8th, 2017 at 8:04 pm
Posted this on 10/1 after Giants game … We need a more dependable kicker, too many points squandered, who’s available for try outs?
October 8th, 2017 at 8:27 pm
I thought Rich Mckay was the best drafting GM in the history of the Bucs.
October 8th, 2017 at 8:47 pm
what’s he good for ,, not makin’ field goal for sure…do they have try out set up yet??? I want to try out , can’t do no worse than folk…lol…..
October 8th, 2017 at 11:48 pm
Yeah I specifically looked at the hold when they replayed his shortest miss and looked like a perfect hold, believe that was also where that commentary from Feeley came in
October 9th, 2017 at 7:53 am
Lord have mercy…that guy is ugly!
October 9th, 2017 at 9:18 am
Licht is not having a great contract year so far!!
October 9th, 2017 at 10:03 am
I wonder what Michael Husted is up to…
October 9th, 2017 at 2:18 pm
We had a record holding accurate draft Pick and now a veteran kicker go wacko on the Bucs. I think it is time to call into question the special teams coach approach with his kickers.