History Explains The Freakout
September 27th, 2017
History lesson
Yes, too many fans became unglued by the Bucs’ loss Sunday.
Heck, even Gerald McCoy lost his head. Joe can’t explain that. But Joe can shed bright light on what happened to fans.
If Joe understands anything, it is those who live, breathe and crap Bucs football.
This was explained in detail on the Monday Morning Joe Podcast, and here it is in print.
Call it the September Groin Stomp, one that has battered fans for six consecutive seasons.
2017 – Backup Vikings QB Case Keenum carves up the Bucs as if they’re not there in a 34-17 rout. Groin stomp!
2016 – After a sound win in Atlanta to start the season, the Bucs soaked in love from media and fans and then rolled over in Arizona the following Sunday. The team was totally abused in a 40-7 loss, after which players admitted they got to high after their previous win. Groin stomp!
2015 – Tennessee-Ready?!? The most hyped Bucs game in years proves to be one of the worst home losses in team history. On opening day, Tampa Bay got train-wrecked 42-14 by the worst team in the league. Yes, Tennessee and Marcus Mariota landed the No. 1 overall pick that season. Groin stomp!
2014 – With an 0-2 record and fans hoping to save the season against a division rival on Thursday Night Football, the Bucs fell behind 56-0 after three quarters to the Falcons. Yes, 56-0! Groin stomp!
2013 – Who could forget Lavonte David clutching defeat from the jaws of victory with a last-second personal foul that ripped the heart out of Bucs fans on opening day against the Jets. Groin stomp!
2012 – The New Schiano Order arrives with its toes-on-the-line tough talk and Team Glazer finally unlocked its vault and signed significant free agents like Vincent Jackson and Carl Nicks. The Bucs actually won opening day and then followed up allowing 25 fourth-quarter points in a stunning comeback loss to the Giants. Groin stomp!
All of those September soul-crushing beatings, 2012 through 2016, led to poor starts to those seasons. So that’s why Bucs fans went particularly mental after what happened in Minnesota. Fans just can’t take it any longer.
The Bucs can soothe the masses with a win Sunday. That will guarantee the first 2-2 or better start to a Bucs season since the 2011 club opened 3-1 under Raheem Morris.
September 27th, 2017 at 10:12 am
Actually we started 1-3 joe
Nope. We started 3-1 in 2011. After a loss to Detroit at home on opening day, the Bucs beat Vikings Falcons and Colts. –Joe
September 27th, 2017 at 10:16 am
LOL, Joe is out to spook the sheep today!!!!!!! Is Joe going to post a video compilation of the 10 worst plays in Buc history to the music of yakety sax?????
The Real fans are not panicking!!!!!!!! Home game at RJS in 4 days!!!!!! Do the real fans think they will play two terrible back to back games!!!!!!! I don’t think so!!!!!!!!!!
As all the “real” fans are saying………..GO BUCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 27th, 2017 at 10:18 am
I’m tired of these ass whooping too. Nice Joe to ppint out its every freakING year. Don’t matter if we get new coaches, new players, new uniforms, etc same ass whoopings. This year is worse than previous years tho.
September 27th, 2017 at 10:19 am
Being a Bucs fan is like taking part in H.I.I.T. The game days bring your heart rate up and down for a 3 hour period.
September 27th, 2017 at 10:24 am
Joe you must mean 2010…2011 we started 1-3
Sorry, would you please bother to look it up before you keep posting that Joe is wrong. Joe’s already deleted two of your posts saying the same thing. Bucs started 3-1 in 2011, then 4-2, then lost 10 straight to close the season.–JOe
September 27th, 2017 at 10:25 am
Chill out, relax, take a deep breath, medicate……the Bucs often have a way of bouncing back…..at least after an embarrassing loss.
Remember the disgusting loss to Tenn in 2015……the season was over after one game….then we beat the Saints the next week in NO……
And, then the season was over after that.
I am not up to predicting the winner Sunday, but I am up to predicting we show up in a big way.
Go Bucs!!!
September 27th, 2017 at 10:26 am
Ok I certainly do apologize joe
September 27th, 2017 at 10:27 am
I stand corrected…i tried to use my thoughts and not google…googled and I am corrected and feel like an ass
September 27th, 2017 at 10:28 am
I have no problem with GMC and have been a Bucs fan for longer than many of these players have been alive. I’ll be a Bucs fan long after they’re gone, too.
That said, it’s a good thing that GMC doesn’t play in a market like NYC. I grew up there and my family was Giants’ season ticket holders for 3 generations. The media and the people are loyal but brutal to players who underperform.
The Tampa Bay media and fan base are pussycats, relatively speaking. The players should thank their lucky stars they are here, from the perspective of outside pressure.
September 27th, 2017 at 10:28 am
The face of the Basement Years is a Pro Bowl Groin Stomper and has been since he walked in the damn door. Cant win consistently and big games when your so called leader is more worried about fans on twitter than trying to last more than 5 plays without getting hurt again.
September 27th, 2017 at 10:32 am
We all know that we will stink the field at season end. The fans know the history of this franchise. 2010 was the last time, we finish the season on a winning note. These early games are crucial, we need need games. Especially when we have to play 14 straight games without a game off. This is a injured plague, depleted football team. It will get worst as the season go on, it won’t get any better.
September 27th, 2017 at 10:33 am
When you get beat as bad as last week and the games illustrated, this just means there are basic areas on the team that the GM negelected and has done so for years like quality DBs, edge rushers, OL and a starting NFL RB, all were available and noting happened, a diva WR and a K signed
September 27th, 2017 at 10:33 am
I meant need these games
September 27th, 2017 at 10:34 am
Bucs will bounce back this Sunday. Injuries or no – I feel a win coming…
September 27th, 2017 at 10:35 am
Dufuss McCoy talking about being “disrespected”…oh the irony….
September 27th, 2017 at 10:35 am
The freak out is so big because its the same thing…. poor qb play, no pass rush and an inability for guys to step up. I hope things change… they didn’t in any of the above years, although we did rally enough to just miss the playoffs instead of being eliminated by Thanksgiving
September 27th, 2017 at 10:35 am
GMC is not responsible for the Bucs stench. The Bucs stunk long before GMC was born.
September 27th, 2017 at 10:42 am
lakeland you are absolutely correct outside of McKay’s two good years and Chucky’s good year the bucs have been an absolute embarrasement to the league and sports in general. I have been there since day one….
gmc came in touted as the FACE OF THE FRANCHISE
September 27th, 2017 at 10:43 am
therefore gmc needs to own up to the failures. he had no problem accepting face of the franchise money and camera time. when it was time to produce nothing but injuries and excuses period.
September 27th, 2017 at 10:57 am
I highly doubt the freak out would have insued were it just a lost but to apear disinterested and inept is why we as fans are freaking. I mean for coach K to say we played a little to loose with our coverage makes me feel like WTF. Are we gonna be aggressive no matter the personnel or like the guy in the movie Tombstone after Wyat pimp slapped told him “you gonna do something or just stand there and bleed”.
September 27th, 2017 at 10:59 am
tmaxcon, I keep saying that GMC is only in the game for the money. Why did he resign with a bottom feeder, who have never sniffed the playoffs, since he been here? GMC don’t care if the Bucs go winless or if they undefeated. Winners like LeBron James, Kevin Durant would never, never,never have resign with the Bucs. GMC love the Bucs money, he don’t love the game or the Bucs…and that’s my honest take.
September 27th, 2017 at 11:07 am
lakeland that is exactly right sir… he is a me first locker room cancer with a smile and the undisputed face of the basement years… Kwon is Jordan and GMC is richard simmons.
September 27th, 2017 at 11:43 am
Joe listed the curb stompings but there were so many other bad ball games played in September by the Bucs. The one that sticks out to me is that Rams game last year, totally winnable and should have been a W if Aguoyo made his kicks, the Bucs managed the clock better and simply made a couple less mistakes but someone not familiar with the frustrations of a Buc fan have to realize that the Bucs have managed to lose in about every imaginable possible way from L David’s bonehead penalty to help the Bucs off to an 0-8 start in 2012 to games like the 56-14 annihilation on Thursday by the Falcons to one game in retrospect that I am glad the Bucs lost in which the team collectively took the foot off the gas and allowed the Redskins to comeback from a 24 or 27-3 deficit and win and that loss helped the Bucs to 6-10 and 7-9 that season might have been good enough for the Glazer’s to retain Lovie and the Bucs would likely have been fighting with SF and Cleveland for the #1 overall last season instead of a playoff berth….. About the only thing I have not seen is the excuses that are now flying out of the mouths of Big Ben and a few of his team mates in Steeler land where they claim this National Anthem issue distracted them enough and caused Ben to not sleep well and in effect caused them to lose to the lowly Bears…. I am actually surprised someone on the Bucs did not float that beauty of an excuse out; it would have fit DJax’s game like a glove……
Anyhow, the mentality of losing is still with this club, at least with the fanbase and I am not just talking about the trolls who amuse us with all their negative banter….. I guess on Sunday we will find out if the team is tired of all this losing rhetoric and just goes out and gets a W someway, somehow which of course is going to require all hands on deck on both sides of the ball…. Is it gonna happen? I’m doubtful but hoping that Winston and his receivers connect, the non existent running game shows up, the Bucs avoid the typical drive killing penalties on O and the drive extending flags on their D and that the D simply does not embarrass itself in a Buc W.
September 27th, 2017 at 11:47 am
lol guys finally figured it out!
GMC is the entire reason this franchise has been bad for the last 12 years.
Thanks guys!
September 27th, 2017 at 12:01 pm
Joe why do you talk in 3rd person?
September 27th, 2017 at 12:02 pm
Joe are you smart?
September 27th, 2017 at 12:05 pm
Joe do you like pitty pies?
September 27th, 2017 at 12:06 pm
Joe do you work for dolman law group?
September 27th, 2017 at 12:26 pm
yet another blow out….thought we had a new sheriff in town?….GO BUCS!!!!
September 27th, 2017 at 12:52 pm
The difference is we didn’t have 8 injured starters on defense in one week those other years. We also still fought in that game; and almost got it to 1 score despite being down 25 points in the 3rd quarter.
But that doesn’t matter at all – no excuses right? If Jameis Winston, the entire O-line, and starting WRs go down we can’t consider that as having an impact. We should just assume it’s the same as every other year and that we simply suck and injuries / flus / etc mean absolutely nothing.
Having only 3 of your 11 preferred starters on defense 100% healthy is normal!
September 27th, 2017 at 1:04 pm
tmaxon, I don’t blame GMC for getting the money, I wish it was me. You know that GMC signed the 6th largest rookie contract in the NFL history. The rookie cap came after his draft class. The Bucs has paid GMC over $116 million during his 8 year career. How we say it in Lakeland…..*that’s a good piece of change*. He is one the highest paid players in NFL history in total earning. And Aaron Donald has earned $10,202,010 during his 4 year career. And people are wondering why he decided to holdout.
September 27th, 2017 at 1:13 pm
LC
its called making adjustments…its called game planning….smitty knew those players were not going to play so he should’ve got creative…
for example….
Monday night the dallas defense were missing players in key spots that effected their depth at linebacker and dline…that forced the DC to get creative…after the first 2 series he switched to a 3-2-6 defense…in the secondary he had a rookie, 3 first time starters and 2 returning starters(scandrick and b.jones)….
this threw palmer off as well as the HC and OC because they didn’t have any film of dallas going this before…and it worked to perfection…dropping 6 into coverage forced palmer to hold on to the ball and scan the field…problem was no one was open because they were only sending 3 or 4 wrs out….ARZ had no answer…they only scored 3pts in the second half after being up early in the first quarter…
and more importantly Jason didn’t abandon the run game after getting down early or zeke not finding his groove in the first couple of games….
the vikes lost all came down to poor game planning….injuries will happen…but when they do, the coaches must step up….GO BUCS!!!
September 27th, 2017 at 1:37 pm
T Max is a Con with very little knowledge or sense. He suffers from little man syndrome. Trying to correct it in these forums is just pathetic, like him.
September 27th, 2017 at 1:51 pm
813
So Smitty knew that Noah Spence / Robert Ayers/ Gerald McCoy / Lavonte David / VHIII / TJ Ward would all suffer injuries to some degree at some point; with most of them missing the game because of it?
How do you adjust when the bodies you’d use to adjust with keep going down?
Dallas was not dealing with 8 injured starters. Even with 3 rushing they were getting tons of pressure quickly. It’s not like Palmer had 5+ seconds on average and then got sacked. He was still getting dropped in a few seconds on a lot of those plays. That’s still talent winning battles in the trenches as much as it’s scheme or coaching. Solid gameplan but still required players to get pressure.
Also Dallas was never down 3+ scores like we were early lol. Bad comparison regarding a run game script.
September 27th, 2017 at 4:11 pm
LC
smitty knew that he would be without baker..grimes..kwon…he SHOULDVE known that if he ran the same defense to expect a massive drop off…and there was….
How do you adjust when the bodies you’d use to adjust with keep going down? you ask?
first you recognize that you are short on lb’s and dlineman….so you put 6 dbs in…tandy, conte, ward,mcclain, VHG &ryan smith….you use your best pass rusher on the end(GMC) with McDonald and ghloston along the line….beckwith and glanton at lb….simply!
I never stated they were down 8 starters by injuries….I stated that their depth had been effected….
they were only getting pressure from 1 main player in d.lawerance….he would force palmer to step up or over right into the arms of his team mate….he wasn’t able to get the ball out as quick as he was in the first quarter because of all the dbs in coverage….
regarding the run game, dirk abandoned the run once we got down 7-3…lol….my point was that even dallas got down early(7-0) but they continued to run the ball…
no excuses…that was poor coaching and poor game planning….GO BUCS!!!!
September 27th, 2017 at 10:34 pm
You can talk about the injuries all you want. Especially those in the secondary but it makes no difference. The problem is out pass rush. Its nonexistent. They cant even hurry a QB. There is something fundamentally wrong with our pass rush. All acrosd the NFL I see guys I’ve never heard of licking their chops for just the opportunity to sniff a quarterback. Not hete thoigh. No, here in Tampa our guys run 10 yards straight back behind the passer. Its comical. Watch the game again if you can. GMC has the best get off in the game and he does nothing. He fizzles out or the QB takes a tiny step forward and he has all the time in the world. Hard to cover a WR when the WB is actually calculating his throws and isnt even out of breath.
Heres something else you never see a Bucs Dlineman do…. bat down a ball. I see it from both teams in evey other game. It happens to Jameis. But our guys can’t do it, nope, they are too busy doing wind sprints past the QB.
You fix this pass rush and scrubs like Keenum dont have hall of fame days