“I Have To Get Better Quickly Or There May Have To Be Some Consequences I Might Have To Face.”
September 28th, 2017
Talks ugly picks.
Is Jameis beginning to feel serious heat from the Bucs?
A quarterback is expected to jump from apprentice to a seasoned signal-caller in his third season as a starter. It’s a common belief in NFL circles.
And if that is the case, then America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, is building a reputation as a turnover machine. And this is not lost on Jameis himself.
Whether he is beginning to feel the heat (finally) from winning Bucs coach Dirk Koetter or someone else within the team has intervened as a fresh voice, or whether it was sage fatherly advice, Jameis, at least publicly, says he understands his carelessness with the football, despite his immense talents and unmatched intangibles, just might tarnish his career. Soon.
In his weekly pressers, a big topic for Jameis has been his interceptions. He has nine in his last five games as a starter. The Chicago win was the lone game in the last five he hasn’t played Santa Claus.
Jameis at one point today almost seemed to hint he might be benched.
“I have to get better quickly or there may have to be some consequences I might have to face,” Jameis said.
Immediately when Jameis said this, Joe’s antennae jumped straight up. What was he suggesting?
Joe had to ask and Jameis clarified. In short, Jameis believes if he doesn’t cut down on picks, the Bucs will turn him into a game manager and a Handoff Harry.
“Consequences would be running the ball 30 times a game,” Jameis said. “I like throwing the football. I wouldn’t mind handing the ball off 30 times a game it helps our team out.”
Now we all saw Koetter tear into Jameis on “Hard Knocks” about his picks. That’s what we know. What we don’t know is how many times Koetter has barked at Jameis about this and, after Sunday’s game when Jameis tossed three picks and nearly a fourth in a loss to the Vikings, if Koetter is running out of patience and told Jameis enough is enough.
That’s just speculation from Joe, of course. But Jameis admitted he heard direct words from his father, Antonor, that he better knock off the picks very soon.
“Man, look,” Jameis said, recounting his father’s words in a recent heart-to-heart. “If you turn the ball over, they are going to run the football. You are not going to be able to throw the ball.”
That seems, by appearance, to have hit home with Jameis.
Jameis confessed he knows how bad picks are and he offered he even gets PO’ed about picks in practice.
Picks are “something that sits in the back of my mind and it eats me alive,” Jameis said. “In practice if I throw a pick, I get mad, I get frustrated. … It is something I have to continue to work at. It’s something I have got to get better for this team’s sake.
“We were at 70 percent completion [percentage against the Vikings], and we lost. That hurt. You have an effective day in the air and you lose because of three turnovers. That is all a result of me.”
Jameis reiterated he is all about wins and he doesn’t give a damn about stats so long as those stats come with W’s.
“Winning outweighs stats by far,” Jameis said. “I would rather be considered a winner not a stat junkie. I have to be trusted and when the quarterback is able to be trusted, a lot of things go smooth.”
September 28th, 2017 at 1:13 pm
Keotter may have to make some tough decisions if the losing continues and Winston keeps turning the ball over, I love that he takes chances but some of those throws are just selfish drive killing throws, let’s not forget the Glazers hired Keotter almost entirely because they wanted to keep Winston trending upward and keep the familiarity around him. Well… the same person that got Keotter hired just might be the same one that gets him fired. I pray not. But these next 2 games will determine our season.
September 28th, 2017 at 1:19 pm
enter year 3, Winston is only slightly better than rookie Winston…should this be an indictment on dirk?….maybe, but I can say for sure the play calling hasn’t always helped Winston….some parts of his game has improved…foot work is better…release is better….but decision making and accuracy has only slightly improved since his rookie year….still a turn over machine…
im still very high on Winston but my attention is starting to turn to the coaches…failing to help your qb out by running the ball falls on the coach….being predictable…falls on the coach….not making adjustments….that falls on the coach….
still a long season but the coaches have to coach much better…GO BUCS!!!!
September 28th, 2017 at 1:24 pm
No oline and no running game but it’s all Jameis fault? The only consequence Jameis will face is going to a real organization with brain during his FA years. What a joke this org is.
September 28th, 2017 at 1:24 pm
PLEASE RUN IT 30 TIMES A GAME!!!
September 28th, 2017 at 1:25 pm
Maybe koetter should of stayed a oc for the better of Jameis. His development went on cruise control ever since he went hc. JW in my mind is the best player on yhe field any given time and how u can’t develop him is a head scratcher. Need more quick releases. Getting to think where to throw gets him in trouble
September 28th, 2017 at 1:25 pm
813bucboi:
It is hard to make “adjustments” and be diverse in “playcalling” when a coach is handcuffed with no running game to speak of.
September 28th, 2017 at 1:30 pm
Jameis is as Jameis does….
September 28th, 2017 at 1:36 pm
Hi Jameis look at your playbook, on every pass play there’s a little line that goes about 10 yards up field and stops. That’s called a check down. They are great option for you if your main read is covered. Don’t worry about the clock or the score, just start hitting your hots religiously, I swear no one is going to get pissed you didn’t try to throw it into triple coverage and settled for a field goal sometimes. Really.
If you need an example watch Eli on Sunday, if he has time to make it his hots that is 🙂
September 28th, 2017 at 1:37 pm
They need to replace the Tampa Bay chant with “CHEEEEEEEECK… DOOOOOOOOOOOWN”
September 28th, 2017 at 1:50 pm
Get Peyton Barber multiple carries this week. And I haven’t seen Simms getting many at all. All I’ve seen is Quizz running into the back of the o-line 2nd and 15. Uggh.
September 28th, 2017 at 1:57 pm
I think things WILL get better once Doug comes back. Joe and a ton of Bucs fans don’t respect his game but defensive coordinators DO respect him and what he brings to the running game for the Bucs. Once Doug comes back, I anticipate the passing game will succeed better than what it is at this moment.
September 28th, 2017 at 2:05 pm
Matt Ryan performed well in his third year. Wonder if Koetter/Smith start wishing they had him still if these turnovers continue. Jameis needs to be able to take over a game and go BEAST MODE.. against a solid team. He needs to be able to make up for adversity (i.e Our D is banged up and only way we win is in a shootout.) How many shootouts has Jameis won in the NFL ?
September 28th, 2017 at 2:06 pm
I think the media and coaches are being a little too hard on Jameis.
Jason Licht decided to go with arguably the worst group of running backs in the NFL and guess what our running game stinks.
Also the defense looked awful last week so it put the team in a very difficult situation to look good on offense.
September 28th, 2017 at 2:08 pm
ALOT OF JAMEIS HATE GOIN ON HERE
As the originator and only member of Jameis nut carriers, it seems fitting Kobe has to bring stats into this
WEAPONS FOR JAMEIS???
Lets all go to the the very important team YAC Stats
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?range=NFL&rank=231&type=Receiving
***yes bucs and mia has 1 less games played…look at top 10 and they are the playoff teams
last 2 years we were ranked bottom 3 in team total Yac yards…we will be at the bottom again
ITS THE PLAY DESIGN AND SCHEME!…
YOU FOOLS
September 28th, 2017 at 2:09 pm
The entire squad will be facing consequences in February.
September 28th, 2017 at 2:14 pm
It seems like a lot of people didn’t watch the game.
They had to leave the running game after being down 14 points.
This is baffling. Smh
September 28th, 2017 at 2:15 pm
Man United is undefeated in the EPL and undefeated in Champions League play. And Romelu Lukaku is on fire.The Glazers will be expecting the same thing from the Bucs. There will be a lot of house cleaning at One Buc Place, if they don’t get it together.
September 28th, 2017 at 2:16 pm
this is a way over reaction on your part JOE! No matter how many picks happen they aren’t going to quit throwing the ball, Give me a break. Dude, we have the best 2 WR’s in the game with possibly the best TE and your telling me they don’t have a say in this. Don’t think so!. Buc are going to live or die by Jameis throwing the ball picks or no picks.
September 28th, 2017 at 2:16 pm
It’s funny how we can place blame on everyone EXCEPT Jameis! Jameis has to stop throwing picks, the same way that Hargreaves needs to cover his man or Conte make a tackle. Stop making excuses for him.
It’s a TEAM game and EVERYONE has to play their part.
September 28th, 2017 at 2:18 pm
What ?
Jameis a turnover machine ?
Noooo ……. never.
We knew he had these problems coming out of college.
He is either hot or not, no in-between it seems.
There are days he couldn’t hit a bull in the ass with a bass fiddle.
But I don’t have any faith in our backup quarterback either.
September 28th, 2017 at 2:18 pm
@RayJameis- I don’t understand why we abandon the run-game so quickly. The Pats were down by how many points in the SuperBowl? And did they stop running the ball? Um, no.
There has to be balance.
September 28th, 2017 at 2:38 pm
Don’t lose hope people JW will improve still a early season
September 28th, 2017 at 2:41 pm
I think a big part of why we abandon the run is our running backs are not any good.
They were not good last year and guess what?
They still are not any good.
September 28th, 2017 at 2:42 pm
Abandoned the running game ?
We don’t have a running back worth a flip right now,when Martin comes back we might if they don’t run him off.
Where oh where is Alstott when you need him ?
September 28th, 2017 at 2:53 pm
Joe says:
813bucboi:
It is hard to make “adjustments” and be diverse in “playcalling” when a coach is handcuffed with no running game to speak of.
he handcuffed himself….you have to continue to run the ball…
when the titans beat seattle, their first 17 run plays only equaled 28yards….the next 16 run plays gained them over 100yards….and that was against a stout defense…
you cant give up on the run when your down 7-3…GO BUCS!!!
September 28th, 2017 at 2:56 pm
Finally some honesty about why we lost and lost decisively. If Jamies doesn’t under throw Jackson and hits a wide open Evans who is being covered one on one, we are in this game. I still doubt if we would have won it, but it’s time for Jamies to mature. The arm is there; the leadership is there, but he has to quit ignoring the necessity of going through his reads.
September 28th, 2017 at 2:57 pm
At least Jameis takes ownership of his part in last week’s poor showing. I saw about 21 other players who should be saying the same things as Jameis. Not to be negative but as long as our defense is forced to start so many back ups, we are going to have a tough time winning. Pre season was a harbinger of things to come with our lack of decent depth on that side of the ball.
September 28th, 2017 at 2:58 pm
@1 trick- Yea, but at least make an effort. If not Quizz then Barber. Anyone but Sims ESPECIALLY on 3rd and short! PLEASE!
September 28th, 2017 at 2:59 pm
813bucboi – you know we don’t have demarco murray or Henry right? But your point is very valid. They need to run and run some more.
September 28th, 2017 at 3:23 pm
Accuracy…watch Brady…or anyone of the other top QB’s…and when I say accuracy I am not just talking about a completion….it is delivering the ball so the receiver can catch the ball in stride and GO !….I’ll have to see that consistently from Jameis before any talk of early contract extension or renewal….
September 28th, 2017 at 3:25 pm
As much as it pains me to say this, Mariota is beginning to pull away from Winston as a QB. The guy all the talking heads were dissing over Winston just to justify Winston as the #1 pick. Jameis needs to use Mariota as motivation. I know he doesn’t like the comparison but when your taken #1, and #2 respectively, and #2 is better at this point. The argument can be made that the Bucs chose the wrong QB. Motivation Jameis!
September 28th, 2017 at 3:39 pm
Relax. This team (Winston included) will get better. Improved coaching (Not hating but the offensive and defensive playcalling and adjustments we saw last week could be better), some run game adjustments in personnel until Martin returns (1-2 well-timed jet sweep action plays, motion seal stretch plays, etc can help the line and open up nasty play action for Jackson and Godwin/Humphries, Etc). I have faith In our coaches to weave in some of these things and put us in better positions to maintain TOP, offensive momentum, and score. If we are able to have a good week if practice (got it, we have some dings) we should play so much better and win. Defensively we’ll need to coach up a tighter scheme (my opinion) and be successful with a blitz look that gets us 1 on on with their tackles. Not a coach, live our team, but these are some things I would imagine our coaches are looking at as potential adjustments. BL: all is not lost…we have a whole season yet to play, great coaches and good players. Go Bucs, Go Bucs, Go Bucs!
September 28th, 2017 at 3:50 pm
@AlteredEgo yeah I remember saying that Brady puts the ball in the most impossible of spots that only the WRs can get to. I think we all need to understand that JW will never get to this point AND that it doesn’t mean he’s a bad QB. He needs to realize and the coaches more-so that he’s a QB that is complimentary and not exemplary. You need a whole team effort for JW to succeed.
September 28th, 2017 at 4:03 pm
@sorry…..that does not make one an elite QB …it is a very fast game these days and if the best QB’s are deadly accurate and your teams QB needs “a whole team effort”…well then you need to start looking for that elite 2018-2028 QB…I sure hope Jameis can do it..but his accuracy has always been my threshold before believing.. ..
September 28th, 2017 at 4:04 pm
Run the pill 30 times a game? You kiddin me? You need a great blocking O line to that…. Plus, Doug Martin. And thus far we’ve had neither.
September 28th, 2017 at 4:11 pm
Or a half-way decent running back. The Seahawks may have the worst offensive line in the NFL and they are middle of the pack in yards-per-carry.
Jacquizz Rodgers — a nice backup — was on the streets this time a year ago for a reason. And Chucky Sims simply cannot run the ball but he sure is a mean dancer.
Offensive line wasn’t the problem last week (zero runs for a loss), but of course, it always is a easy fallback for those looking to excuse others.
September 28th, 2017 at 4:22 pm
Joe:
You are exactly right. Jason Licht better hope Doug Martin is 2015 Doug Martin when he comes back next week.
I must have said a hundred times before the draft that the Bucs needed to draft Dalvin Cook because the Bucs had arguably the worst running backs in football. The Bucs decided to pass on him and decided not to trade up to the top of the 2nd round to get him.
But don’t worry we have 2.9 yards per carry Doug Martin coming back next week. Doug will save the day…. at least we hope so.
September 28th, 2017 at 4:41 pm
@Wausa no good RBs??? Payton Barber in the corner with his 4.7 average.
September 28th, 2017 at 4:44 pm
Wausa:
No one wanted the Bucs to draft Cook more than Joe. It is understandable why they got Howard when he fell. Scuttlebutt is Licht tried to trade up for Cook and he couldn’t find a dance partner in the second round. Hey, it happens, you don’t get “your” guy. Happens all the time in each draft. That doesn’t mean waiting until the fifth round to address a huge need (remember, we all knew Martin would not be available for the first three games if not beyond. How many decent RBs got passed over?
Really like the Godwin pick. LOVE the Beckwith pick. There were still running backs available who are currently making impacts for their teams as rookies not named “Playbook McSnoopDog.”
September 28th, 2017 at 4:50 pm
Anyone of you that is more upset by the O.J. pick than they are the Justin Evans pick instead of Kareem Hunt…
You are a mentally unstable Fsu fanboy, and you know a lot less about football than you think you do.
September 28th, 2017 at 5:05 pm
@Blake_bucsfan, Hunt was a 3rd round pick! Nobody was drafting him in the 2nd. Even if the Bucs didn’t get Justin Evans, it still wasn’t going to be Kareem Hunt. He’s playing out of his draft level which nobody expected. But, attribute the Chiefs play calling and OL into the mix. We don’t have either. Our OL is better than last year, but not at the level of KC or Dallas.
Winston needs to be benched for a series on the next errant pass that leads to or almost leads to an INT. Enough coddling him. He needs to follow through on the coaching and not just talk the talk.
September 28th, 2017 at 5:18 pm
What is coach K gonna do ….start Fitz!!! Ha ha ha ha ha…I’ll take s knee on that!!!
September 28th, 2017 at 5:23 pm
I don’t care if the second coming of Earl Campbell runs the ball, there are no holes, I never see any holes.
September 28th, 2017 at 5:29 pm
All talk, no action, it’s year 3 JW, talking family isn’t going to stop you from turning the ball over, the only great games is either versus a far inferior opponent or your defense carries you, you haven’t done anything in this league and if you don’t start playing smart, you are going to start the Blake Bortles comparisons, maybe you should start worrying about playing smart instead of racing everyone to work each morning, take a breath before the game, jacking everyone up and using all that energy before kickoff can be done by other players, get with your coaches and play smart, we are sick of excuses
September 28th, 2017 at 5:33 pm
Blake_bucsfan Says:
May 1st, 2017 at 8:44 am
I made a comment saying pretty much the same thing. No denying Evans range and Athleticism, but he seems to take some really poor pursuit angles at times, and the kid 100 percent must learn to wrap up. I’d say the guys has an incredibly high ceiling, and could become a Patrick Chung type of Bruising Center fielder if he lives up to it. I’d say his floor is probably around Conte under Lovie… *shudders*
So if there’s one Pick I would change, I’d Swap Evans for Kareem Hunt or Alvin Kamara. Can’t shake the feeling that we should have come away from one of the top RB prospects in such a good pool of guys.
But, In Licht we trust. Here’s hoping that everything Clicks for Evans in year 1, and that Jeremy McNichols has a break-out rookie year.
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That’s simply not true lambchop, going through the archives, there were several smart posters who wanted Kareem Hunt in as high as the 2nd. Including Pickgrin and Jeagan1999.
And this quote from May 1st basically surmises exactly how i felt on draft night, and basically how I still feel now, disregarding the McNichols comment, who I hope is a straight bust after seeing him b**** out on HK.
Kareem Hunt would have been nice. Oh btw heres a quote from Ndog about Hunt.
Ndog Says:
March 21st, 2017 at 7:30 am
Sorry guys but this guy has Aaron Stecker written all over him.
Find a new sport to watch Ndog.
September 28th, 2017 at 5:36 pm
We shoulda picked Mariota! Winston is all rah rah but no accuracy and throws it up for grabs. Need to boost his confidence with little dump off passes and hope the Oline improves.
September 28th, 2017 at 5:37 pm
@Pelbuc
Kindly go eff yourself and find a new team.
September 28th, 2017 at 5:52 pm
We all saw on his last int that Jameis was staring down Evans. No qb is going to get away with that in the NFL. Not to mention that game was on his shoulders. Not making excuses for the defense but it was one of those games where we meeded our qb to win the game and Jameis didn’t even keep it close.
Its quite sobering to realize that when you need your franchise qb to put the game on his shoulders, he cant get it done. He cant keep it close. Not hating just my honest opinion.
September 28th, 2017 at 6:30 pm
Seriously the o line did a decent job of pass protection. Those interceptions had nothing to do with pressure they were just risky throws into tight windows or mis reads.
September 28th, 2017 at 6:39 pm
Wow, rampant depression spreading through out the locker room. Record is
1-1. Lets save the drama until we lose a few more games.
September 28th, 2017 at 6:40 pm
Nice try. RB’s are not throwing the ints. Quit looking for someone else to blame.
The ball is getting moved down field. It is when it gets to a point on the field Winston goes dumb.. Makes the mistakes and gets picked. Or just flat out can’t hit the receiver. And the DC’s know 99% of the time he is going after Evans. Or he just stares down the receiver.
September 28th, 2017 at 6:40 pm
All THOSE INTERCEPTIONS ARE NOT JAMEIS’s FAULT…
Get your pick forks out…Jameis will always take the heat whether he deserves to or not…
Run him out of town like Doug Williams🤔
Maybe with ANOTHER team and games called to help him, help the team be successful he wiil do better!
I hope he doesn’t let all of you PRO BALLERS get in his head
Because you are so equipped to criticize EVERYONE from the sidelines!
September 28th, 2017 at 6:43 pm
How can he be so smart but play so stupid? He can’t read defenses period!
September 28th, 2017 at 6:50 pm
The strange thing is JW knows how to read defenses. He can look and instantly tell you what type of defense he is seeing. When it comes to game action, he seems too quick to lock onto a receiver and force ill-advised throws. I still believe that he is the franchise QB we all hope he becomes. I love his attitude, his talent is unquestionable, and I really respect his accountability and determination. He will get there but it really is time for him to take the next step. I really hope the rest of the team comes to play this game and, for that matter, next game. I can only imagine the confidence this kid would have if we beat the Giants and Pats in back to back games.
September 28th, 2017 at 6:57 pm
Only a fool would overlook the issues a qb faces when playing with a defense as bad as the Bucs. They dont have to be dominant….but a hugh school team can cover receivers better than them. Coaching not players needs fixing. I thought this broken record was broke for good but apparently not broke enough. Same old song and dance
September 28th, 2017 at 7:08 pm
This is like blood in the water. This fanbase turns so quickly on Jameis. You guys making these judgments, get the NFL package that allows you to watch the coach’s film.
First INT. Poor throw by Winston yes, equally poor job of competing for the football from DJAX.. Watch the coaches tape, not the broadcast. If Djax wanted the football as bad as Waynes at worst it is PI.
Really look at what’s happening. I would need to hear Koetter explain the second INT before pinning that one on Winston. I’ve went over that play a ton. Winston was the third person down the list of people responsible for that one. I saw a mention that Evans was wide open.. He wasn’t. No-one was wide open on that play. Evans was 1v1 but ran a quick out to the strong side. Why is Evans running a quick out if Jameis is supposed to be reading the Safety??? If Winston is reading the Saftey, Evans is running a go or a corner route. I have no true explanation for that route. When you watch the all 22 you see it. I had a 100% different take based on the broadcast. I assumed Evans had to be running that route. My initial response was to kill Winston for his read and bringing the safety down. I was wrong. That didn’t happen. The safety is responsible for Djax. Everything is still good if Waynes doesn’t freak out (like all of the sudden he remembers his assignment) and runs right to DJax, if he doesn’t this could be a touchdown because Djax would’ve beaten the Safety to the ball and then most likely beaten him to the house. If Djax goes NBA here and flops on contact its a PI call. Instead he pulls up to avoid the contact. I’ve seen it said here that he was “held by the linebacker” not true. LB reroutes DJax at the 5 yard mark, legal. This looks like Koetter getting beat in the film room. The way the Vikings reacted makes no sense unless they expected this play.
The last interception, yep, we can all agree. Saw a hole in the zone and picked out Evans pre snap. BAD. HORRIFIC. Put the adjective in. Looked worse on coaches film. He had Humphries releasing late open, Djax 1v1 at the top, OJ Howard 1v1 on Waynes and his best option a late releasing Rodgers that would’ve gotten a personal escort into the end zone from OJ80. His throw is amazing, but at the moment the interception is made, Evans has 6 Vikings within 3 yards. This wasn’t a bad read, Winston chose not to make a read. He made a decision not to make a read. He guessed. This is the question. Why did you not go through the progression at this moment in time? He made this decision pre snap. Why?
I think 100% he is worrying too much on not making the mistake, so when things are down he trusts the things he has the most confidence in. His arm and Mike Evans. Its like he said, “if I make a perfect throw, Evans will get it” He made the perfect throw, Evans had it and then nearly was decapitated by the safety that Winston lead into the hole. Winston has to start playing football. Koetter has to help him find his confidence. Making such a decision like this in the moment is a sign of a hesitancy and fear.
September 28th, 2017 at 7:30 pm
Tnew, I agree I think it’s sickening how quickly these so called “fans” turn on their QB. But i completely disagree with you on your breakdown of those picks. Because they are inexcusable.
I love Jameis, and I have all the confidence in the world that he will bounce back like he always does, but that 1st pick was 100 percent on Jameis, Djax had Waynes beat soundly. 2nd Pick was a terrible read, and the 3rd, while yes it hit Mikey in the hands, he was surrounded by 4 dudes. You cannot make that throw and blame it on the WR for not coming down with it. Especially when O.J. was streaking wide open across the middle, and Adam Humphries wide-open to the right.
It was just a bad game though, made worse by a barrage of injuries. But Jameis is still gonna go down as the best QB ever to wear Pewter and Red.
September 28th, 2017 at 7:33 pm
Perhaps Jameis should talk with the former Buc’s FSU QB that won the Bucs a Super Bowl
September 28th, 2017 at 8:30 pm
After 3 weeks even Josh McCown (QBR 53.2) is ranked higher than Winston (47.3) and McCown has played an extra game. Time to show Tampa some of that eliteness we’ve been told you supposedly have. Old man McCown, you know? …the one who got you drafted #1 three years ago. …man smh
September 28th, 2017 at 8:45 pm
Last week Keenum was dropping dimes all over the field and made Winston look like the backup QB. James and the offense ONLY scored 6 points in OVER 60 minutes between the Bears and Vikings games. Do you think that is a result of playcalling? Or just bad play? Who is ready to pay Winston 20+ million for his next contract? Not yet! James may have to win a few games on his own this year for us to go 10-6 OR make the Playoffs. Don’t have much faith at the moment but I know he can do it, or at least hope so. I am tired of this team underachieving EVERY year. Picked them to go 10-6 last year and JW3, and RA19, and the ENTIRE defense cost us at LEAST 2 or 3 games. This year we are better on offense (talent wise) and I expect AT LEAST a Wildcard spot so stop with the excuses. I’m tired of JW3 repeating what Dirk says to him and NOT doing it. Playoffs or Bust! Go BUCS!
September 28th, 2017 at 9:01 pm
@tnew,
Coach Koetter has explained the 2nd int and said it was on Jameis.
September 28th, 2017 at 9:02 pm
@Joe
Can you confirm the story about the Djax and ME having a huge tirade on the plane up to Minneapolis, and the team had meetings on the issues that were late into the night at the hotel?????????
September 28th, 2017 at 9:33 pm
Where did you hear about that one Realist?
September 28th, 2017 at 9:34 pm
Jamie’s needs to not worry about who gets the ball and who doesn’t. Make the right decision, quit worrying about Mike and Djax, check down to Sims, use OJ, use ALL the weapons and no one will stop this offense
September 28th, 2017 at 9:35 pm
^^^Fake News^^^
September 28th, 2017 at 9:44 pm
You guys defending Jameis miss the point. Even if it’s one pick that one pick, that was clearly his fault, changed the entire course of the game. If you an elite qb you HAVE TO HIT a wide open Djax running down the middle of the field. If he hits that one we are down 4 with a chance to stop them and get the ball to start the second have and probably get back to running the ball. Did a lot of things around him suck, of course. But that is why you have great players they cover up your weaknesses. Can’t most average QBs win with a great running game and a defense creating turn overs and shutying the other team down?
September 28th, 2017 at 9:46 pm
Heard it from two “sources” , trying to confirm this!!!!!!! Second source was pretty detailed!!!!!!!! Has anyone any details yet????????
September 28th, 2017 at 10:32 pm
No running gAme and an average o line.
September 28th, 2017 at 10:39 pm
Joe has only been invited on the team plane once and had to turn the offer down.
September 28th, 2017 at 10:40 pm
His completion percentages up
September 28th, 2017 at 10:44 pm
Am I reading this right? People are actually criticizing Jason Licht draft picks.
September 28th, 2017 at 10:55 pm
@Joe
That is what I thought as well!!!!! Thx for the quick answer wink-wink!!!!!
September 28th, 2017 at 11:03 pm
Love These so called Bucs supporters one week it’s how great,the next week is fire the coach, we suck , season over. There are 31 other teams that prepare to win a game weekly. We will lose folks that news just in , be patient , especially after last weeks NFL results, Are Denver fans calling it a season also ?
September 28th, 2017 at 11:51 pm
Realist..how did you get an answer to that in Joe’s answer to you? lol!!
September 29th, 2017 at 2:25 am
So pathetic 2 games in the season…
So what do you suggest Koetter do to Jameis, bench him, fine him, make him practice harder…oh wait trade him
September 29th, 2017 at 2:26 am
So pathetic 2 games in the season…
So what do you suggest Koetter do to Jameis, bench him, fine him, make him practice harder…oh wait trade him…
September 29th, 2017 at 4:04 am
thanks Duke… I searched for it online this was all I could find… is this what you are speaking of
“The second interception, we were driving, we were back within two scores, we were across the 50 on the plus 45 and it was a poor read,” Koetter said. “We had a good man-zone indicator there. Jameis missed the read, try to force it in there to DeSean, he had to step up, had a little bit of pressure, tried to force it in there — just not going to work.”
I want to know what his read was, and I need to understand the route scheme. Koetter forgot more than I will ever learn, but this one makes no sense. The paper that was cited above indicate that OJ80 was “wide open” but he has a linebacker shadowing him in good position. If Koetter said, the read was to throw the ball away as soon as the Safety breaks on Jackson then ok. But why? If Koetter says the read is the Safety, (which Winston didn’t do) why isn’t the outside receiver with 1v1 coverage pressing the db.. Further more, if OJ80 is truly the option, why not run the db out of there to give OJ80 more space to work. BTW, I’m not some Madden wannabe here (seriously never played it, been told I would love it), this is just my hobby. I know I must be missing something. What did you see Duke? Not being a smart a.. I just really want to know.
It just seems to play off the safety given down and distance. Safety rolls over to help the two, then play the middle game with DJax and OJ. Safety rolls to Djax, throw the corner to Mike Evans and whoever wins that battle wins. If Koetter has lost confidence in that corner route to Evans 1v1 on any db, then we need to start looking for a new qb or coach (neither of which I want to do) or they (Winston and Koetter) need to get back on the same page.
September 29th, 2017 at 5:52 am
Duke…. thanks for pointing me toward the article. Here is something I found more interesting.
“The first (interception), again, that’s a touchdown. That’s a 14-point swing right there with the way it ended up. That’s a seven-point swing, you know, DeSean smoked that guy and Jameis has got to get it out there for him — plain and simple on that.”
Why was Koetter so eager to blame Winston for a 14-point swing. He pointed out a couple of sentences later this led to a Vikings 92 yd drive and instead of 14-10 it is 21-3. So curious.
I know he backtracked into a 7 point swing later but he was quick and eager to put 14 on Winston initially. Why add to the heat he is already putting on Winston? This is an argument strategy. The way he uses it, it seems purposeful. Only he will know.