Encouraging But Not Good For Lavonte David
September 25th, 2017
UPDATED 3:44 p.m. – Yesterday’s bad news from NFL Network reporter Ian Rapoport was highlighted today at One Buc Palace.
Joe wrote about how Lavonte David needed major help getting off the dreaded cart in the tunnel at the Vikings stadium yesterday. It took a couple of guys to move him and David was in a lot of pain, a troubling sight.
Rapoport Twittered yesterday that David has a high ankle sprain and will miss games. Rapoport followed up this afternoon saying David will miss about one month. But Dirk Koetter said moments ago that David’s ankle injury isn’t as bad as feared or speculated, but he didn’t provide a timetable.
So that’s the latest. What seems 100 percent certain is that David will miss the next two games in the next 10 days, against the Giants and Patriots.
The high ankle sprain is a miserable injury for a football player.
As Joe wrote yesterday, Joe doesn’t even want to think about what the defense might look like if Kwon Alexander isn’t ready to return from his “re-tweaked” hamstring.
UPDATE: Tampa Bay Times reporter Rick Stroud Tweeted specifically that David does not have a high ankle sprain, but Stroud did not Tweet what is wrong with David’s ankle region.
September 25th, 2017 at 2:45 pm
Joe….I’m scared.
September 25th, 2017 at 2:48 pm
get well lvd kwon needs you.
buc1987 you should be scared the leader of the losing culture is in midseason form week 2
September 25th, 2017 at 2:51 pm
We supposedly have better depth this season……hope that yesterday is not a blueprint set in stone as to how that depth plays out on Sundays…… Vikes pretty much shredded the Bucs D at will early on.
September 25th, 2017 at 2:54 pm
4-6 weeks.
September 25th, 2017 at 3:05 pm
O-V-E-R!
September 25th, 2017 at 3:16 pm
“…hope that yesterday is not a blueprint set in stone as to how that depth plays out on Sundays”
Yep most teams are typically prepared for losing 6-8 core players on one side of the ball in one week.
WTF is wrong with you Jason Light? Our 4th string DTs/DEs/CBs are supposed to be probowlers. Look around the league and most teams have a bad4ss 4th DT and 4th DE
September 25th, 2017 at 3:22 pm
Sometimes it is just plain comical…smh
Joe Dunn go back to sleep.
September 25th, 2017 at 3:24 pm
It don’t matter if he come back or not come back. This is a 7-9 team, nothing will change this. It is what it is, book it.
September 25th, 2017 at 3:26 pm
MRI confirms injury is NOT a high ankle sprain per Rick Stroud
September 25th, 2017 at 3:39 pm
Soooooooo
“America’s TURNOVER MACHINE”……..aka Jameis Winston did it again.
He did the same stupid -ish as a rookie
He did the same things last year
Now…..we’re seeing the same ol mistakes again!!!!
Even if the defense somehow magically fixes itself (rolling eyes), which is far-featured idea because of injuries and lack of depth now……….Our QB turnover machine won’t lead us to any wins
It’s pointless
September 25th, 2017 at 3:41 pm
Seems very unlikely Kwon will be back with that soon since he has a hammy. We all know how long those take to heal. Sometimes they never heal until the season is over.
Big tests coming up for this team.
September 25th, 2017 at 3:57 pm
I know it doesn’t have anything to do with the article Joe but I just received a call from my dad. We were supposed to go to the game this weekend but he stated as a vet he cannot go. Said the kneeling was like a kick to the nads. This is a guy who has been taking me to games since the creamsicle days in the old sombrero.
September 25th, 2017 at 4:07 pm
who cares
the only person s availability we have to worry about is mikos boytoy
if our 2 shutdown corners VH3 and “It might as well be ryan griffen” smith are out there sunday…we are toast
What did Kobe say about ryan griffen smith? I didnt say he was bad. I said he doesnt belong to be on the field of a NFL game
September 25th, 2017 at 4:07 pm
With the amount of pain David was in – I guarantee you this was a serious sprain. And serious sprains are worse that broken bones in some respects. We will be LUCKY if LD54 only misses 4 games. 6+ weeks out is more likely than not. Bucs need to decide whether to put him on IR with eligibility to return after mid season or just concede the roster spot for the next 5-6 weeks towards a player that can’t help the team.
September 25th, 2017 at 4:14 pm
Koetter’s take while simple is basically spot on.
The Winston interception with 5 mins left in the 1st half killed the game. It was 21-3 after that instead of 14-10 if he hits that throw. It was then 28-3 early in the 3rd quarter; and the game was over at that point basically as we were just desperately trying to get back into it. Kind of amazing we almost got it back to 1 score.
Pretty sure teams are like 1-1000 when down 25 in the 3rd quarter; with the one win being the Pats over the Falcons lol
Either way please bring Brent Grimes back to us this week football gods
September 25th, 2017 at 4:16 pm
Joe
couldn’t you of asked what the game plan for ryan smith and vh3 is going forward–are we going to have to endure their awful performances again?
what about noah spence-can that dude ever play football again?
what about gmc–is he viable for next week?
what about getting a new play caller–what are koetter’s thoughts on that?
where were the questions to koetter from you for us?
September 25th, 2017 at 4:17 pm
Buc1987 Says:
September 25th, 2017 at 2:45 pm
Joe….I’m scared.
There there lil’ Buckaroo.
September 25th, 2017 at 4:23 pm
We could potentially be missing our unquestionable 4 best players on defense – Kwon, Lavonte, GMC, and Grimes. That’s really really really not good.
September 25th, 2017 at 4:30 pm
Man Mike Smith is probably twisting in the wind today, koetter sounded like he was very unhappy with his game plan–he should be. It is hard to believe there was not some way to cover the receivers better, tighter, at least he could of made adjustments during the game, worst cornerback play in the league. Dial up some cornerback blitz, do something more than allowing the receptions, in front, behind, 10 feet away over and over.
vh3-first round pick loser!!!!!!
September 25th, 2017 at 4:58 pm
Reminds me of Buckaroo Bonzai. We need some serious help from John Bigboote.
September 25th, 2017 at 5:07 pm
Looking at our remaining schedule, our performance to date, plus our injury situation (and depth … or lack thereof), it looks like Bucs are an 8-8 team this year, possibly a 9-7 team, Given our injury situation, wouldn’t be at all surprised to see us go 1-4 to start the season, then beat Buffalo & Carolina to improve to 3-4 before losing to Saints in New Orleans. Beating the Jets & Dolphins looks do-able (if our injuries are healed up), but losing in Green Bay & Atlanta is very likely. Hopefully we can finish the season strong by beating Detroit, Atlanta & New Orleans here at home in December, but we’ll probably lose to Carolina in their house on Christmas Eve day. That’d result in an 8-8 season (winning one of the early season games against Giants, Pats or Cardinals could get us to 9-7). The only way I see us making the playoffs now is if our offense turns into a real juggernaut and starts putting up 30-35 or more points each game, because our defense will be hurting most of the year (no BYE week with some ugly injuries to start the season with lack of depth mixed in isn’t a good omen).
September 25th, 2017 at 5:21 pm
They cab get by a couple games effectively with Beck and Glanton and Lynch. But you wouldn’t want to push it for more than that.
September 25th, 2017 at 5:44 pm
I know it’s early, and the D DID turn it around midseason last year, but we need the next two drafts to be mostly defense. I like Ayers passion, Gholstons’ run D and Spawns’ quickness, but Ayers and Gholston can’t rush the passer and Spence looks like one of those guys that’s going to have an injury plagued career. McCoy isn’t getting any younger and has an ongoing injury history. We need pass rushers and the draft seems to be the only way we’ll get them, considering the big money we’ll have to pony up soon and the fact that we don’t have “17 million laying around”. It won’t matter how good our back 7 is if we can’t get a pass rush to force the QB into throwing the ball sooner than he wants to.
September 25th, 2017 at 5:49 pm
If Ryan Smith is on the field it really won’t matter who else is on the field as QBs will just spot him and throw the ball that way every single time since they know Ryan Smith is the worst corner in football. Hopefully Grimes is back or Eli will throw for 500 yards.
If Ryan Smith is playing then the Bucs have to outscore the Giants – and I’d 100% take the over on the game. Although it might be raining on Sunday, that might make for a messy game and that would be the biggest blessing in the world if Smith is in the game.
September 25th, 2017 at 7:22 pm
GMC hosting a get together with hateful fans! LOL! good dude!
I’d love to tell VH3 and ryan smith that they are the worse CB in league and they need to up their game otherwise I’m moving on to the Redskins. Now that will make a difference!
September 25th, 2017 at 7:32 pm
For me, I don’t care what corners are on the field. I want to see the coach challenge their manhood. Tight press man coverage, if you can’t do it, fine we will find someone who can next year. With the money we will soon be spending on offense, the best we can do on defense is pay strong man coverage corners and get very creative with the blitz packages. We won’t have enough $$$ for a D line full of pro bowlers. This team needs to learn how to win shootouts and get over the idea of 17 points and good defense will win games.
September 25th, 2017 at 7:36 pm
Defense looked horrible all the way around. No pressure,no coverage and poor tackling. Jamie’s is still forcing it to Evans. Needs too hit other targets. Oj Howard needs to be unleashed. Offensive play calling needs to better. Run some screens. Name is needs to hit some check downs or hit Sims coming out of the backfield.
September 25th, 2017 at 9:17 pm
Yes Jameis threw picks but the Vikings knew we would be throwing on every down , my issue is why draft OJ if u aren’t going to throw it to him. We would have been better off w Dalvin if Koetter isn’t going to come up w creative ways to use our weapons. If it’s Evans 80 percent what has changed. Also why after Jameis threw the TD at the end of the 3rd quarter did they stay in hurry up. We were only 2 scores down w 13 mins left. Run the freaking ball!!
September 25th, 2017 at 9:59 pm
Please listen to our fans this time coach koetter u are a heck of a coach but the fan are right Get Ryan no defense smith off the field. Justin Robinson. Or anybody u want but not him. An 13 min left in da game my opinion i see when jameis gets tired he over throws or lack of effort but balance. Petyon baber didnt toych the field but produced nicely the week before. Get our playmakers the ball.
September 25th, 2017 at 10:07 pm
Charles sims. To much east an west when u get the ball love your pass catching skillz but north an south. Mostly north. Our defense was Horrible no pass rush at all. An we where aggressive but looked who we played case keeum 2 man high safety. We have a good run stoping defense. Let them run on first an second. An then press man on 3rd make them beat us on 3rd down. Dont give them eight in the box single coverage with a second screen DB. Cum on man. U guys are the coachs. Dont over think the simple things.
September 25th, 2017 at 10:15 pm
I think we should have either won that game or made it closer i watch the whole game. Their refs where horrible i seen alot of penaltys that where no callz. Felt like we where being cheated at one point. But anyway. Thats the past. Coachs we need a pass rush. Get ryan smith off the field. An dont let jameis get wore out. Call time outs. Help him manage the game an his stamina the first pick was a clear under throw which i dont understand. Desean jackson clear post route jamies threw it late. Let it rip. Either he gets it or an over throw. Second pick was a um tired but have to make a play call timeout give him a breather. U guys played a hell of a game i still expect playoffs. Nothing less. I will b watching an reading. Love u guys tampabay. All the way.
September 25th, 2017 at 10:24 pm
via rotoworld:
The Bucs say WLB Lavonte David has a “medial” ankle sprain.
It beats a high ankle sprain, which would sideline David for at least a month. On Monday, coach Dirk Koetter said David’s injury was “reevaluated,” and after doing so the Bucs believe he’s “week to week.” We doubt he’ll play in Week 4.
Source: Jenna Laine on Twitter
Sep 25 – 4:02 PM
September 26th, 2017 at 12:49 am
we all watched the same game, ryan smith and vh3 were awful, stick cariiers do something about it, demand a meet with koetter, wtf was oj howard–like some one else said why get another tightend and not even use him, all these weopons for Winston to throw it into quadruple coverage trying to force it to evans.
2nd round pick(Justin evans) runs out of bounds then back in-omg-what a fok up! like someone else said get josh robinson–he’s a veteran–stop the ryan smith experiment–IT AINT WORKING!!!!!!!!
September 26th, 2017 at 7:28 am
the update is good news. Not a high ankle sprain turned that injury into a 4-8 week issue into a 2-4 week one.
September 26th, 2017 at 7:53 am
I must say that reading all of these negative comments about the team are comical. Most folks posting on these boards were calling this team potential Super Bowl contenders. While I didn’t agree I recognize that it was ONE game. Other teams get paid to play as well. I hated that they got manhandled but let’s not pack it in after two games. If you don’t believe in the team stop watching.