About The President’s Comments
September 24th, 2017
Yes, the President has taken on the NFL and anthem-kneeling in his own unique way.
Wild times these are.
Joe has always followed one rule for Bucs-related content here since JoeBucsFan.com was launched in 2008: Joe writes about what Joe finds interesting as it relates to the Bucs. (Not counting the short one-liners in the former Morning Cup of Joe feature).
Does Joe write about every bottom-of-the-roster transaction made by the team. Nope. Why? Because if Joe isn’t really interested Joe won’t type it up.
So Joe isn’t yet writing about all this NFL chatter and Tweeting by the President because Joe really doesn’t find it interesting. Joe really doesn’t care at this point.
Now if the Bucs start reacting with real actions, then Joe surely will take notice and write about the intriguing ones.
For those thinking Joe is chickening out here — and there are many of you — nothing is further from the truth. Remember, it was Joe who first reported (in print and in detail) that Mike Evans sat for the national anthem last year.
September 24th, 2017 at 9:58 am
Good deal Joe I don’t care either and every channel has this covered and good luck finding real football info this morning except Joe bucs fan lol
September 24th, 2017 at 9:59 am
I’ll bet I’m not the only one who misses the short one-liners in the former Morning Cup of Joe feature.
September 24th, 2017 at 10:00 am
That’s why I love this site! Let’s all leave politics out of football!! Go Bucs. Big W today coming!!
September 24th, 2017 at 10:03 am
I want the morning cup of joe back.
September 24th, 2017 at 10:07 am
Politics is destroying ESPN, sports should be an oasis, free from politics
Kaepernick dealt a severe blow to pro football, if they continue, it could be fatal
Almost as bad as Schiano!
September 24th, 2017 at 10:12 am
So do I Trey! And the political views should have been left out of football period that’s why you watch in the first place for an Escape. I can watch the news for that kind of stuff I just want to enjoy the football game and relax on Sunday
September 24th, 2017 at 10:12 am
Trump is further damaging your product, Joe. We know that interests you.
September 24th, 2017 at 10:14 am
Expect many more to be sitting today. Trump had no business even commenting on how players express themselves and this will serve as another nail in the coffin of our soon to be single term pres
September 24th, 2017 at 10:14 am
Glad to see Joe doesn’t do stories on things that are really not important to Buc news!!! Keep up the good work!!! I guess work is the key word, Joe knows what is important to do at work, while others think we want to know their politics while at work!!! Thanks Joe!!!
September 24th, 2017 at 10:16 am
So y’all want morning cup of Joe back, yet no politics in your football 🤔
September 24th, 2017 at 10:18 am
Trump is such a idiot. It was bad enough that Kapernick turned his protest against poor police training into a protest against the nations symbols which strongly represent our freedom and the courage of those who have fought and died to preserve our way of life, now idiot trump has galvanized people in a way that huge amounts of people are now going to do the same thing. Lost in all of this is the fact that our police are still given guns with a pathetically small amount of training and sent out into the streets. So instead of both sides figuring out a way to solve this issue, we will descend into racial politics which Trump just threw gasoline on. Kapernick and Michael Bennett are dancing jigs this morning.
September 24th, 2017 at 10:21 am
Football is political, but the only politics should about roster, salaries, coaches, and stuff like that.
September 24th, 2017 at 10:28 am
Hello NFL….people go to football games to escape the daily crap in their lives !….now exactly what are your players upset with ?
September 24th, 2017 at 10:41 am
The flag and this country represents the freedom for all people. Trump is showing he doesn’t understand what America is and who Americans are.
At this point I’m slightly disappointed we haven’t seen a statement from Bucs ownership, like statement from Kraft and others.
September 24th, 2017 at 10:45 am
Hey Bucs Fan in China, you are sadly mistaken and in a coma if u think this will be a one term president. Hunker down for 8 more years, unless u decide to run against DJT
September 24th, 2017 at 10:49 am
I’d love to see a veteran or active duty member holding the flag for national anthem when it’s over walk over to one of the kneelers and knock his pansy ass out. it’s the veterans who sacrificed so these uninformed mentally weak politically correct entitled babies can protest about social injustices yet they rather divide than unite which is proven each week by their punk arse actions. they have a right to be a punk that being said I have the same right to call them the punks they are. love it or leave
September 24th, 2017 at 10:49 am
There is some good news. Viewership and advertising dollars are going to be way down.
The salarys just won’t be as high.
Hopefully ticket prices and concessions will come way way down.
September 24th, 2017 at 10:52 am
I have never even liked the National Anthem being played before games, I think it’s jingoistic and silly. But, I know it is important to some people so I stand politely. Just like I am not religious but if you have me over for dinner and your family says grace I will join in without objection or comment, because it’s important to you and disrespecting it would be rude.
But it doesn’t matter what I think about the actual issue. I watch sports for escape. If the players want to protest carry a sign on the sidewalk, talk about it in interviews, buy commercial time, or whatever you want to do. But if you drag politics into the game I’ll quit watching because I simply don’t want to hear it.
September 24th, 2017 at 10:53 am
Tmaxcon –
Ask a veteran – did they fight to have a country were he president bullies people to get in line and act a certain way or did they fight for freedom?
September 24th, 2017 at 10:53 am
NFL= No Fans Left
September 24th, 2017 at 10:53 am
oh and when these pathetic athletes and other entertainers that threaten to leave the country please back up your BS and get out. When leaving don’t forget to grab an illegal or two for the ride with you since you are more concerned with their rights than actual tax paying citizens.
September 24th, 2017 at 10:53 am
Good policy Joe, much appreciated.
September 24th, 2017 at 10:55 am
Regardless of race, or perceived social injustice, kneeling on the flag during the National Anthem is disrespectful to the military veterans and their families. I Guarantee that athletes who are from military families would never use this platform to make a point. This form of protest gives the wrong message, one that says they hate America, even after everything America has afforded them.
September 24th, 2017 at 10:57 am
” the former Morning Cup of Joe feature”
Care to share with your readers the reason Joe decided to get rid of the Morning Cup of Joe feature? Its the least you can do. Please explain your decision since so many readers have expressed their desire to have that feature back 5 days a week.
September 24th, 2017 at 10:59 am
As far as I’m concerned when the players put on the uniform are at an NFL stadium in front of paying customers…..they are at work.
Imagine going into McDonalds and being confronted at the counter with political signs.
There is simply no place for politics at the game.
And, Joe is entirely correct to avoid it on JBF…..this and at the game is where most of us come to escape the daily barrage of politics….no matter what our persuasion.
September 24th, 2017 at 10:59 am
LOL, Jimmy T I really do find it amazing that guys like you still support this imbecile. He is so utterly clueless we may very well be in a nuclear war soon because he can’t control his temper and language. I am hoping Mueller speeds everything up and we can get the moron out of office long before this first term ends.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:04 am
It’s going to be great seeing the whole league as one taking a knee …cant wait for the impeachment of trump then we can tell him…”your fired”
September 24th, 2017 at 11:06 am
Those who disrespect the flag and anthem were never handed a folded flag. I have been handed two….love this country, love our flag and all that it stands for GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
September 24th, 2017 at 11:16 am
Anyone who thinks these athletes, who are AMericans first, do not have The right to sit should check themselves. We all have to remember that If we don’t like something, we have the freedom to not look or listen. THIS all has gotten blown out of proportion by media/network racists.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:18 am
I personally don’t care about the kneeling.
When I watch a game at home I don’t “rise” for the national anthem and when I attend a game I don’t tear up when the anthem is played. I stand because everybody else stands…and they stand because everybody else does…and we all take off our hats. It’s like group-pressure behavior. We are Pavolv’s dogs; when the anthem plays it means the game is about to start. I do like the flyovers and giant flags as a spectacle. I do like soldiers, cops, and EMT’s being honored on the field before the game and at halftime. There is momentary pleasure in the display specifically designed to influence emotions.
Then we all sit down and yell “!kill the bastard!” with psychopathic lust.
“Respect” isn’t a one-time thing. An outward symbol of “respect” or “patriotism” can be deceptive. One lives respect and patriotism with more than an occasional burst from their mouth or feet.
I don’t dislike Kaepernick. I do think he ain’t that bright. I do think he made a really, really bad decision. I do think his GF has influenced his thoughts and behaviors, to his detriment. I do think the career of a marginal at best player who alienates his employers won’t end well. And, no, he’s not that good. If Tom Brady was a Black Panther he’d still have a job. Michael Vick killed dogs and still made millions. A one-trick pony with bad knees that NFL Defensive Coordinators have figured out won’t.
And I don’t care about whatever the players do, whatever their causes are. Id’ say most players in the NFL (I cannot comment on other sports because I’ve never been involved professionally) have some sort of “cause” or charity they embrace (think tax laws and planning.) I just wish they’d do it off the field in a time they personally “own.” Players don’t “own” game time: the fans and the paying public “own” that time.
I wouldn’t want to see Tom Brady take a knee for his hydration nutrition passion or Carson Wentz advocating for the NRA any more than I do a black SJW pining for dead cops.
Maybe an alternative would be to have all the players display some symbol or physical act of the various charities, causes and foundations they represent. You know, early childhood learning, safe sports, homelessness, breast cancer, autism, mentoring at-risk youth, prostate cancer, ALS, CTE, you name it, during the national anthem. Have them blend in with the angry SJW’s during the anthem, sort of how race cars and drivers wear patches of sponsors and causes. Let fans see the broad interests and causes beyond the angry SJWs.
I’d rather not see any of those causes on Game Day, but if that is the future of the NFL how about some balance?
My point is I don’t enjoy political and SJ issues on Game Day. Like millions, I enjoy sports as a diversion from the rancor of everyday life and issues, the display and exaltation of superior athletic skills and strategery by highly gifted and rare humans, if only for three hours on Game Day.
I want my sports to be pure sports. But if sports in New AmeriKa will no longer be purely athletic competition, and just an outreach to spotlight social issues, I just may move on to another pastime.
(Truth be told, on game day I am much more angered by obnoxious fans in enemy colors on OUR turf far more than any player who may show disrespect for the flag… )
September 24th, 2017 at 11:20 am
Like always, Tmaxcon has the answers. Let’s incite violence against peaceful protesters. There’s the solution. Why not you, Tmax? You need a veteran to do your work? MAYBE the president will pay your legal bills since he has the same solution.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:22 am
Fox just showed that at the London game, the players either kneeled or locked arms. I like the idea of locking arms. It’s not as disrespectful and still makes a statement.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:22 am
Thanks Joe! This is exactly why I love your site. No politics, just football. On Fox NFL Kickoff this morning, Trump was their lead story. I flipped the channel as fast as I could grab the remote.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:23 am
What Miguel Grande & Doc D said ^^^
September 24th, 2017 at 11:27 am
Wow!!! I didn’t read anything after the 2 comments TMax… put on here, but wow, did he knock it out of the park with 2 perfectly written paragraphs that sum up just how a true majority of americans feel. Wow… well done TMax!!!
September 24th, 2017 at 11:29 am
tmaxcon Says
“I’d love to see a veteran or active duty member holding the flag for national anthem when it’s over walk over to one of the kneelers and knock his pansy ass out.”
I come from a long family of veterans…dating back to the revolutionary war and beyond. I myself am a registered Son of the Revolution. I have served my country overseas.
Today is not about disrespecting America. It is about reasserting the right to protest because the man in the white house says we should not have that right. So, for this one day, in this one instance, even though it goes against my personal views, I will not judge a single player for kneeling or locking arms during the National Anthem today.
Not only did Trump attack the NFL…he attacked American Rights. Those same rights my family has fought for, and some still are. He smacked every soldier and vet in the face by saying what he said, because in validated the reasons for serving.
That’s what today is about.
#AllRightsMatter
September 24th, 2017 at 11:32 am
DJax says he has “something” planned for today’s game.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:32 am
@Cobraboy
“I stand because everybody else stands…and they stand because everybody else does…”
You don’t speak for me in stating my reason for standing. Nor do you speak for the rest of America. Please don’t state the reasons we stand. It isn’t because everyone else is doing it…it is because everyone else SHOULD do it.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:33 am
Not sure why this went into moderator limbo but here it is again. There is nothing
It was bad enough that Kapernick turned his protest against poor police training into a protest against the nations symbols which strongly represent our freedom and the courage of those who have fought and died to preserve our way of life, now idiot Trump has galvanized people in a way that huge amounts of people are now going to do the same thing. Lost in all of this is the fact that our police are still given guns with a pathetically small amount of training and sent out into the streets. So instead of both sides figuring out a way to solve this issue, we will descend into racial politics which Trump just threw gasoline on. Kapernick and Michael Bennett are dancing jigs this morning.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:36 am
As I said elsewhere, I am normally against taking the knee…but in this instance, I support today. Or rather…I won’t judge any player harshly for today.
But I will every other week, assuming our twit leader doesn’t incite action again.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:37 am
Joe – what line am I crossing that is preventing my comment from getting through moderation? No swear words, no criticizing Duemig, nothing extreemly incendiary to anyone. Whats up?
September 24th, 2017 at 11:42 am
No line. Not sure what is going on.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:42 am
It seems as if each and every day, politics plays a role in things today that weren’t supposed to be political yesterday.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:44 am
Trumps a moron to all the people saying athletes stick to sports. Are you also saying Trump stick to politics? Doubtful im glad the players kneel newsflash its not about the military or disrespecting any of the soldiers. Its about all lives mattering. But all lives don’t matter until black lives matter too. What’s the problem with That?
September 24th, 2017 at 11:45 am
If any buccaneer player takes a knee during the national anthem I am turning the game off and not watching the game today.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:47 am
AGAIN…I was a Vietnam Veteran…I no longer say AM because I’m literally embarrassed by the total IGNORANCE and hate unleashed by the pathological liar. A guy who took daddys money…went bankrupt 5 times and needed the Russian money to keep his empire. And now calls Americans SOB’s.
Now can someone explain this to me logically? I sort of get the “respect” for a song and a piece of cloth but it that more important than what they stand for?
So..a black athlete who sees video every week of another black man being shot…sometimes in the back…sometimes sitting in their cars decides to make a point that this is not right concerns our “patriots” here more than the meleongins who fly the Stars and Bars.
So let’s just get this straight! One group of people simply take a knee to make a point….another group of people aim cannons at old glory and blaze away…causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of my fellow AMERICANS…literally waging WAR AGAINST THE USA…all for the right to keep on buying and selling black people. And so for those LOSERS…remember they LOST that freaking WAR…it wasn’t simply taking a knee in protest it was killing people in the name of trying to DESTROY the USA!!!
You simply cannot fly a “Stars and Bars” and call yourself a a patriot. That is absurd and ignorant on the face it just from the FACTS. You do not get to attack the United States and call yourself a patriot!!!
So yeah…let’s get our panties in a wad over some athletes protesting an OBVIOUS injustice while we fight for the right to keep statues and memorials to LOSERS who freaking ATTACKED THE USA. Why are they not the sons of bitches….they freaking attacked us!!! What part of this do people not understand?
September 24th, 2017 at 11:50 am
Men making 1 to 20 million dollars a year to play a game and they can’t stand and honor the men and women who gave the ultimate sacrifice make me sick. They should all lose there jobs and have to work for salaries like the rest of us, scrape by week to week hoping you make enough money to pay all the bills and put food on the tables. Entitled babies
September 24th, 2017 at 11:51 am
It’s not just nealing during the National Anthem. The ridiculous amount of horrible commercials, the prima Donna attitudes, the PC BS from ESPN, too many penalties and far too many breaks in the action. The NFL needs to figure things out quick or they will end up like Hollywood has… Failing big time and out of touch.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:52 am
Without America there would be no NFL. Without the rights afforded to you by America, there wouldn’t be any freedom to make political statement and feel protected.
The only thing stopping citizens from jumping over the rail and onto the field to express their discontent regarding kneeling is American values, rights, and tolerance of others.
Who brought politics into the NFL in the 1st place? It wasn’t Trump was it?
Before I root for any team, it’s America 1st. Please Bucs players do not ruin this for me.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:53 am
Thank you StPete…well said
September 24th, 2017 at 11:57 am
Word is the Steelers will avoid any controversy by keeping players in the locker room until the playing of the anthem is over.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:58 am
Thank you, Joe(s)! The media and now the NFL need their fix so that ratings soar, and our president, like a good dealer, is giving them what they want. I am glad to see that you are not engaging in this issue.
And now, these words from James Madison, author of the US Constitution: “A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty…The means of defense against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.”
September 24th, 2017 at 12:05 pm
The Fox NFL Kickoff had NOT ONE DISSENTING OPINION on the entire panel. So we are right and anyone who disagrees is wrong. All comments talking about athletes but no one said anything about the fans. What about the opinions of your paying customers? I’m sure everyone is afraid to disagree and present the other side because they would be attacked. Oh yeah. That’s Freedom. YOU ARE NOT LALLOWED TO DISAGREE-1984. The President’s comments are divisive? What about kneeling in the first place which started all this? That’s not divisive?
September 24th, 2017 at 12:06 pm
Joe Says
“Not sure what is going on.”
I think it might be keywords the system has by default. There are a lot of insults going around right now, lol.
September 24th, 2017 at 12:07 pm
@stpetebucsfan
HOW DARE YOU?
(Be right, I mean)
September 24th, 2017 at 12:08 pm
Bashing America by kneeling drops attendance and tv views.
September 24th, 2017 at 12:09 pm
I’m still waiting for somebody…anybody…who can tell me how flying the “Stars and Bars” is NOT unpatriotic. How we feel the need to “honor” people who literally fired on the very flag that most of you are so bent out of shape over.
So it’s OK to attack the USA…kill hundreds of thousands of us…you get memorialized and have statues of your loser generals who fought AGAINST the USA!!! When I see a “Stars and Bars” or statues to Confederate losers I think of the very people who attacked MY country!!!
September 24th, 2017 at 12:10 pm
bucfan999 Says
“Men making 1 to 20 million dollars a year to play a game and they can’t stand and honor the men and women who gave the ultimate sacrifice make me sick.”
Obviously you are not a veteran. If you were, you would understand that this right is one every soldier serves for.
September 24th, 2017 at 12:11 pm
My goodness this propaganda is killing the game. I hope a few players back our president.
The same argument they are making against Trump is the very one they are cring about.
Trump should be able to say what he believes without getting attacked just as they do.
Such a stupid physiological operations to divid the country.
Its like IRMA all over again. Just a different kind of storm…. SO SAD RIGHT NOW 🙁
Not sure I even care about wins or loses now.
Frack politics and intellectual people!!!
September 24th, 2017 at 12:14 pm
@stpetebucsfan
In my house, we judge others by the fruits they bear. In other words, what results do their actions bring about?
For that reason, I judge our president harshly. His constant promotion of hate during and after his campaign has led to increased racial violence, his own staff turning against him (more departures from his cabinet than and other president in history) and a lack of respect for our nation on the worldwide stage.
I agree with everything you said, in case I wasn’t clear in my previous comment.
September 24th, 2017 at 12:17 pm
Don’t even get me started on the whole anti-confederacy movement happening. I’m a firm believer that those who do not remember past mistakes are doomed to repeat them.
If reading a name on a monument spurs a young person to study that person’s history, all the better to learn from those mistakes.
September 24th, 2017 at 12:17 pm
UNITED WE STAND DEVIDED WE FALL…….. AS A NATION UNDER GOD,
Bet 75% of people crying injustices cant even say the pledge of alliance to the flag.
Instead you say you dont believe such a thing…
Thus your opinion truely is irrelevant. You cant claim rights when they are convenient. “You either are with us or your a terrorist.” -George Bush Jr after 9-11.
Everyone needs to chill out and smoke some medical Marry Jane.
Does the NFL allow that for all the players they allow to suffer?
September 24th, 2017 at 12:19 pm
JAB83 Says
“My goodness this propaganda is killing the game. I hope a few players back our president.
The same argument they are making against Trump is the very one they are cring about.”
No he most definitely should not. Not other position has more ability to incite violence than the president. A wise leader knows that. We do not have a wise leader.
September 24th, 2017 at 12:20 pm
What a bunch of weak opinions for condoning this behavior.
Bottom line is they wouldn’t have the chance to play the game and become millionaires if it weren’t the military ensuring our freedom.
They should stand for that.
Granted, Trump should have kept his opinion to himself, but I think it’s deplorable that it’s come this far.
Now it’s a racial thing and snowballing out of control.
September 24th, 2017 at 12:21 pm
I’m done with the NFL and the Buccaneers. As a life long Bucs fan since ’76, I’m done. Now, with what I hear, some of the Buccaneers will kneel…. forget it, I’m done. So much for one nation under God, it appears as though the sports players put themselves above others. Go MLB, much better than the NFL these days anyway. #huntforoctober MLB rules.
September 24th, 2017 at 12:25 pm
Also, the Steph Curry thing is BS.
I know Curry is mixed ethnicity, but how do you think it would have gone over if a white player would have declined Obamas invite?
Pretty sure the player would be labeled a racist.
September 24th, 2017 at 12:31 pm
OK so Bonzai is the only one to even respond to the absurd comparison..
So guys here are just ripping the athletes…say nothing about a classless President who calls a mom a “beotch”…what does Son of a Beotch mean after all?
But attacking the USA…literally…not by taking a knee…but literally trying to rip our nation apart and killing hundreds of thousands of AMERICANS gets you statues and memorials?
How many you fly a “Stars and Bars”. By defintion that makes you a traitor not a patriot.
September 24th, 2017 at 12:36 pm
Trump of all people should know about freedom of expression ans such.
I suppose he can say and do what he pleases but with consequences of course.
Just like everyone else.
Doosh…you make very good points too and Curry is full of BS.
September 24th, 2017 at 12:39 pm
Your so tough Tmax come smack me with a flag. I’m a proud veteran but I damn sure don’t support someone taking away my right to say or do what I want. I am not a slave to your superior thinking. Yeah that’s my real name. I don’t hide behind the keyboard. Tired of your ignorant talk
September 24th, 2017 at 12:43 pm
Fk you kneelers…go ahead and take your knees….I’ll take my eyes elsewhere!!! Simple as that!
September 24th, 2017 at 12:44 pm
I also understand the constant barrage of attacks leveled at Trump for any and everything he says and does. The people that are doing it fail to realize that a LARGE number of people elected him. More like refuse to realize that cause after all it’s Russia’s fault. You’re all just silly little Sally’s to me. The country voted him into office less than a year ago. From the get-go it was seen from the left as a mistake made by the country. As if we’re all idiots. I didn’t vote for the guy, but I DO understand he STILL has many supporters. No matter how vile the left portrays him to be.
Go Bucs!
September 24th, 2017 at 12:48 pm
Those threatening to quit watching the NFL over peaceful protests should’ve been long gone by now. Wether it takes the support of a conman to fulfill their hypocrisy, we shall see.
September 24th, 2017 at 12:49 pm
What I’m trying to get at is your whining is falling on deaf ears all over the country because you have peeps like Pelosi, Obama, Clinton and Sanders in your party and that’s just as scary as Trump.
September 24th, 2017 at 12:50 pm
You better keep getting used to it Trump will always put America first!
September 24th, 2017 at 12:55 pm
Bonsai your right about one thing. Except we haven’t had a wise leader in a long time. Obama was an idiot too. 57 states? Peace “corpse” (wrong pronunciation Mr Harvard) ? Lightning the White House with the Gay Flag when there are so many conservative Christians in the US? Yeah. Not stupid or divisive at all. Lol
September 24th, 2017 at 1:01 pm
It’s not about peaceful protests. It’s about injecting personal politics into one of the few places where otherwise divergent views can be put aside for some common ground of team sports. We Bucs fans are family until politics poisons our relationship. The more it invades this place of unity, the less I, and many others, will participate.
September 24th, 2017 at 1:03 pm
What the NFL players see as giving the finger to the flag and Trump is actually giving the finger to every service man and woman currently serving and those who served in the past in our military, including those who gave the ultimate sacrifice!
Capt Tim: “Disrespecting our Flag and Anthem is something I personally wont support”. Well said Sir! I’d go into battle with you any day over these overpaid crybabies who dont understand they are where they are because of that flag!!! Fk em!
September 24th, 2017 at 1:12 pm
ME & Djax = C ya snowflakes
September 24th, 2017 at 1:12 pm
@ OtherSide: Well said. I agree completely. And it’s also only a matter of time before this $hit invades and divides the locker room.
September 24th, 2017 at 1:13 pm
@Ronde: I’m with you.
September 24th, 2017 at 1:22 pm
“ME & Djax = C ya snowflakes” Haha, i hope! Fire those SOB’s!
September 24th, 2017 at 1:30 pm
1st amendment. You either like the constitution or you don’t. You don’t get to pick and choose when to apply it. The folks in the military did not die fighting for the flag. They fight to defend a nation that believes in freedom which is established in the constitution. The folks that come out against this peaceful protest guaranteed by the constitution are exactly what is wrong with this country.
September 24th, 2017 at 1:35 pm
@Sam: You don’t get it. Protest all you want. Just not on the clock.
September 24th, 2017 at 1:38 pm
Bonzai… your right to protest does not extend to the workplace while you are working or being paid to work. The Supreme Court, has always been consistent in this regard. There is a time and place for everything.
IF you want to protest.. Do it on your own time or quit your job and become a professional protester There are plenty of openings.
September 24th, 2017 at 1:39 pm
So the Jaguars and the Ravens kneeled for U.S national anthem in a foreign country but stood for God Save the Queen. They wonder why Trump won?
Trashing America on foreign soil in a job is not your 1st admendment right.
September 24th, 2017 at 1:41 pm
^^^^Thank you
September 24th, 2017 at 1:45 pm
I am also 100% done with the NFL and the Buccaneers as of today. ME’s last political anthem protest was more than enough for my tastes, but I thought we had moved past protesting during the anthem from the reaction to that incident. Clearly, this is 100% a political anti Trump protest and I am gone for good. Will be exercising my first amendment rights to political opinions by boxing up my merch and having it delivered to 1 Buc. I will refrain from making political counter statements from my workplace however, as I would not be employees after making them there.
September 24th, 2017 at 2:34 pm
21-3 at halftime…….and djax and me taking the knee!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Yeah, go F yourselves!!
September 24th, 2017 at 3:21 pm
Most replies to a topic that nobody cares about that I’ve ever seen. Certainly unified a lot of people against T rump.
September 24th, 2017 at 3:40 pm
Trump took a knee 5 times during Vietnam war draft.
September 24th, 2017 at 3:49 pm
Trump is the worst president since Madison and Buchannon. And thats bad. He does not bring the country together. Rather he elates in..polarizing us. In a crazy way though, I’m happy all of this happenning. its time for us to face the uglynes we hide. And Mr. Trump and his brand of w nationalism ain’t hidin.
September 24th, 2017 at 3:58 pm
Turned off football as soon as I saw buccaneers kneeling. I blame the networks just as much for televising these a-holes. Protest on your time, not mine. I work all week to be entertained, not to have my children on active duty fighting for these a-holes rights to be a-holes, disrespected.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:30 pm
Hey Bucfan nobody cares about your little pity party for yourself because you don’t have any discernible skills or a secondary education that warrant a high paying job is the NFL’s fault. The guys playing on Sundays do have a special skill and earn every dime they make. The majority of these guys will have lifelong injuries due to the game and very possibly brain damage from the toll this “game” takes. Love white guys like you who are outraged by not standing for the anthem but don’t give a sh1t when innocent blacks are gunned down. Trump is your dream president. Unfortunately for those of us that are rational he is a symbol of what is wrong with our country, not what is right.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:37 pm
They’re not worth watching. They’re not worth worrying about either. Sorry Joe. Time for hockey.
September 24th, 2017 at 4:41 pm
Mike Johnson <—- Like crooked Hillary would have been better? …and for your info it was Obama who polarized our country, it's Trump calling out the haters
September 24th, 2017 at 4:50 pm
@Buccaneer Bonzai
1. I am a veteran, Are You?
2. I turned off the game after the anthem when I saw 2 Bucs kneeling, spent the day with my wife and kids….enjoyed the day until I saw the score on draftkings.
3. I never said they didn’t have a right to kneel, I say they are worthless cowards because they kneel. There are other avenues to protest, they can have a rally after a game and talk about there differences and problems they see in this country but it should not be during the national anthem.
If I owned a team I would be on the sideline during the anthem and any player on my team I saw kneeling or sitting I would walk over to and tell them they can go to the locker room and shower early and if they did it again in the following weeks they would be cut or traded. I don’t want snowflakes on my team…….it sounds like the Bucs had to many snowflakes playing for them today looking at the score.
September 24th, 2017 at 5:04 pm
The only coward in this equation is the draft dodging president who seems to use the military as a punch line to promote his own ego. The players are free to do what the want where they want and the owners are also. If you aren’t in either of these categories then stop whining about how someone kneeling hurt your feelings. Damn snowflakes…
September 24th, 2017 at 5:53 pm
lol, yeah keep thinking that way sam……the whiny bishes are the kneelers and their supporters like you
September 24th, 2017 at 7:34 pm
The Racist Ass, Trump has a lot of followers on this site..using code words like entitled, code phrases like love it or leave it and even the divisive term America First…these players have been given a platform to speak on and they are no longer afraid to use it. Ask M Bennett how entitled he felt being handcuffed on the ground with a gun pointed at his head “for no good reason”. Ask league leading receivers how weak minded they are when they have to make the tough catch across the middle…then ask these same players how they really felt when called “sons of a bitches” by the nations top man!
September 24th, 2017 at 7:51 pm
Bucfan999: if you dodge the Military Draft 5-times….you might just be a coward!!
September 24th, 2017 at 8:19 pm
This is a shark-jumping moment for professional sports. They’ll be sorry.
September 24th, 2017 at 11:32 pm
Don’t forget to sing that 3rd verse to the National Anthem:
“No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.”
September 25th, 2017 at 7:31 am
The President is 100% right. I was very disappointed in Mike Evans & DeSean Jackson yesterday. What they are doing is disrespectful to our country and all the veterans who served out country. They say they are protesting inequality in America which is the same country where they make millions of dollars just doesn’t resonate. If they so concerned about it why don’t they donate their money to change it. Won’t happen all they do is complain. If they are concerned about it they need to find another way to protest. The owners say they supports the players but lets see what they say when fans stop showing up to games and quit watching the NFL on TV. If the protest don’t stop it’s going cost them millions of dollars and the players salary will go down. Well at least there is college football we can watch without having to watch a bunch of dummies protest.
September 25th, 2017 at 6:03 pm
BigHogHaynes
What are you talking about??? I’m not trying to make a political statement, I feel that this kneeling during the anthem is not appropriate. There are other and better avenues to protest. If the goal of kneeling is to spark conversation and change in this country, pissing off the people whos mind you want to change is not the way to go. AND THEY ARE ENTITLED MILLIONARS WHO ARE NOTHING BUT COWARDS!! Alejandro Villenueva is a REAL HERO who let is actions speak volumes to all of the country!!
September 25th, 2017 at 8:18 pm
Wojak Horseman
Well Said