It’s $5 Million For T.J. Ward In 2017
September 3rd, 2017
GM Jason Licht
Team Glazer was throwing around the loot last night.
General manager Jason Licht and the powers at One Buc Palace jumped at the chance to sign Broncos free agent safety T. J. Ward, a three-time Pro Bowler who they’re crying over losing in Denver. The marijuana dispensaries will be busy today!
Word on the street in Colorado was that Ward, 30, was still a great player, but Denver GM John Elway liked the young inexpensive players playing behind Ward, and didn’t want to pay Ward $4.5 million this season.
So they cut him — and the Bucs gave him a raise.
ESPN says Ward signed a one-year, $5 million deal with Tampa Bay. That’s starter’s money, and Ward isn’t here to sit the bench.
It’ll be interesting to see if the Bucs look to trade one of their three veteran safeties. The Bucs now have a lot of cash invested at the position after free agent J.J. Wilcox signed for $3 million per season in March.
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:18 am
BuBye Wilcox
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:18 am
How does Licht fit through doors with those bowling balls dragging on the floor behind him?
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:19 am
Let the little crybabies in Denver suck there thumbs. Just like when we lost John Lynch to them when we cut him.
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:21 am
Posted Earlier
Who gets cut……I suspect Cameron Lynch…..and unless we plan on going with 5 safeties…..we will try to trade one of them.
Our safeties appear to have guaranteed contracts so the $5 mil is added to that.
Unfortunately, the most tradeable IMO is Keith Tandy
And, all this whining about Dalvin Cook…..vs Justin Evans….how about letting things play out a bit….the jury is certainly still out for Evans as it is for Cook.
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:22 am
Like this move. Right now there are plenty of RB’s we could grab to take McNichols place and be an upgrade. Also if we could find decent DE and CB depth, we could be good to go.
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:23 am
TJ Ward is no john lynch
thanks for signing depth to the safeties (not starter material) JL.
……….we need more Cornerbacks…….and not an older safety with hamstring issues JL???????
nothing exciting here to see
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:23 am
Josh Robinson was listed as the 5th safety in Joe’s roster post yesterday. My guess is he’s the odd man out, not any of the other safeties.
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:24 am
You done crying?
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:26 am
I see Conte going. Wilcox is younger than Ward and they play a similar style. He’s on a two year deal
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:28 am
Over 3 of that is guaranteed for J.J. I don’t think they’ll release him much to Bonza chagrin. But. . I could be wrong. Are you allowed to say that on JBF comment board?
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:33 am
Prbucfan notice Joe said the bucs have a lot of money invested in wilcox….anyone goes I’m sure it will and should be conte…tandy had a good season last year…conte was often injured and suspect in coverage
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:37 am
Is Wilcox injured maybe?
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:39 am
@Stanglassman. No you aren’t allowed to say that. You can only point out obnoxiously when the Joes and others are wrong.
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:44 am
I won’t be conte or tandy lol
Bet
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:44 am
Good move…necessity
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:52 am
1 year price it. Smart. Plus 5 mil isn’t much these days. And no future cap losses with him.
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:53 am
Prove it
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:55 am
If they cut a safety JJ would be the likely candidate but there is no rule if you sign a safety you must cut a safety.
Any word on the Bucs practice squad? McNichols wiki page says he’s on it.
September 3rd, 2017 at 9:59 am
Not sure practice squads can be have any players that were waived yesterday yet. They must pass through waivers first and usually that ends at 4PM EST either the following day or the day after
September 3rd, 2017 at 10:03 am
This kind of thing never works.
September 3rd, 2017 at 10:04 am
I hope someone is watching the waiver wire for a backup QB.
September 3rd, 2017 at 10:10 am
Half of the posters on here would complain about the taxes if they won the lottery. All they know is to complain. What a miserable life that must be.
September 3rd, 2017 at 10:14 am
I think we just entered the win now mode!!
September 3rd, 2017 at 10:19 am
The canadian TE may end up a casualty before this is over.
September 3rd, 2017 at 10:34 am
^^^^what he said and can any of these safeties Play Nickel corner?
September 3rd, 2017 at 10:42 am
NIce job Licht, now go get us an upgrade at RB!
Go Bucs!
September 3rd, 2017 at 10:50 am
Thanks for the memories Mr. Conte.
September 3rd, 2017 at 10:50 am
MR Lichht please keep it going.
September 3rd, 2017 at 10:58 am
Stanglassman
You sir get the post of the day!!!!
I could be wrong. Are you allowed to say that on JBF comment board?
I would broaden that now days to anywhere in the U.S. Indeed our entire nation is afraid to ever admit a mistake!!! Sadly no nation, no individual can EVER fix a problem until they can face the fact that a mistake was made.
As far as here at JBF I admire that take Stanglassman because so many here seeem to feel the need to show they are “smarter” than Licht.
BTW….one of the greatest things about the current Bucs management…especially Licht but the coaches as well do concede when mistakes are made….and freaking move on!!!! Is Roberto on our team? No.
But virtually everyday I come here to read somebody boasting how smart they are and they would have never made that mistake.
People are already criticizing the Ward signing and he hasn’t played a single freaking down for us!!!!! SMH! In Licht we trust! He’s had far more smart decisions than bad ones.
September 3rd, 2017 at 11:00 am
Tampabaybucfan Says
“Who gets cut……I suspect Cameron Lynch…”
Cameron Lynch is a linebacker. While it’s possible I sort of doubt it. HE isn’t a bad player. Maybe not great yet, but not bad.
Our safeties are Chris Conte, Keith Tandy, JJ Wilcox and Justin Evans. Of those, I think Evans is the most expendable.
But there are also Ryan Smith (listed as CB but failed Safety last year and has not caught on at CB either) and Robinson. Either of those could go.
September 3rd, 2017 at 11:04 am
Buc fan in Denver….and let me tell you something, all Denver fans are crying to the dispensary. Denver fans loved Ward. Good pick up, if you disagree you didn’t watch one Denver game or the Buc Den game.
September 3rd, 2017 at 11:04 am
Stanglassman Says
“Over 3 of that is guaranteed for J.J. I don’t think they’ll release him much to Bonzai chagrin.”
It’s possible.
I never felt he was a valid starter, but I don’t mind him as a backup. There were a lot of people who thought he would start when he was signed. I just expressed that if he did it would be disastrous.
That, on top of Baker who really isn’t nearly as good a player as we’re being sold on, had me pretty hopeless on the free agent class this year. Jackson? Excellent signing.
TJ Ward is right up there with Jackson. Love this signing!
September 3rd, 2017 at 11:06 am
@stpetebucsfan
I had Aguayo on my wishlist…though I figured he would be taken in the 4th or 5th round.
Guess I blew that one, lol. Still, I hope he finds a way to do better. Maybe a stint in the CFL would help him out.
September 3rd, 2017 at 11:12 am
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think he has been a great Pass Rush safety. We may not be able to upgrade the DE’s….but another guy that is skilled in Pass Rushing? I like it.
September 3rd, 2017 at 11:25 am
This is music to my ears. Anybody disagreeing with trying to win and win now…. can go be a browns fan.
September 3rd, 2017 at 11:35 am
Don’t be silly; Wilcox, Tandy, and Conte aren’t going anywhere. Lynch perhaps. And it won’t be a trade.
September 3rd, 2017 at 11:41 am
@BigHogHaynes … “I think we just entered the win now mode!!” Suspect that we actually bought into that win-now mode when we signed DJax. Hard to get excited though about adding another safety, when what we REALLY needed was a DE and CB. Ward is getting starter’s $$$, so I assume he’ll bump either Tandy or Conte (I’m guessing Conte for now), but if he’s got a hamstring issue not sure I’d want him back there as our last line of defense. Gut feel at this point is that Bucs aren’t very happy at all with Justin Evans, and are doubtful he’ll make it onto the field this year.
Far as cutting Lynch or Robinson goes, hope that doesn’t happen. Bucs are probably carrying 6 LBs for now because of Bond (still don’t think he’s healthy). And Robinson isn’t a 5th safety … he’s our 6th CB & is great on STs. Beyond Grimes & VHIII, none of the other CBs (Elliott, Ryan Smith & McClain) are tearing it up in terms of coverage IMO.
September 3rd, 2017 at 11:45 am
Bonzai
LOL Yeah I made the same mistake on Roberto. I’ve always thought that question was actually a two parter.
The first was…is any kicker worth a 2nd round pick. I’ve always believed that a Vinateri or Janikowski is worth that pick. It solves a problem for more than a decade. Kickers have a very long shelf life and next to the QB have a great chance at winning games.
The second…where I think I and Licht made a mistake was believing Roberto was THAT
September 3rd, 2017 at 11:46 am
NJBucsFan says: You can only point out obnoxiously when the Joes and others are wrong.
NJBucsFan – no, you can’t, if Joe don’t like it, they never post your comment. JBF is a business & Joe is the Fidel Castro of JBFland.
Obviously, this is a lie. Two minutes sniffing around here makes that obvious. Glad you take satisfaction in making things up. It’s a talent. –Joe
September 3rd, 2017 at 11:46 am
That guy…but as stanglassman points out…I could be wrong. Wouldn’t it be a hoot if Roberto found himself and became a great kicker. If he does I’ll be happy to say I made a mistake about him.
September 3rd, 2017 at 11:49 am
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
September 3rd, 2017 at 11:00 am
Tampabaybucfan Says
“Who gets cut……I suspect Cameron Lynch…”
Cameron Lynch is a linebacker. While it’s possible I sort of doubt it. HE isn’t a bad player. Maybe not great yet, but not bad.
Our safeties are Chris Conte, Keith Tandy, JJ Wilcox and Justin Evans. Of those, I think Evans is the most expendable.
But there are also Ryan Smith (listed as CB but failed Safety last year and has not caught on at CB either) and Robinson. Either of those could go.
@Bonzai
I think Lynch is on the bubble to be cut no matter what position is added….and there is no rule that if you bring in an extra safety that you have to cut a safety.
We are as likely to keep 5 safeties as we are to keep 6 LBs.
Also, I think Evans is not expendable at all and Ryan Smith is unlikely to be cut either. These are draft picks under development…..we would be more likely to simply eat the money and cut Conte or Wilcox….hopefully there is an injury somewhere to an expendable player we can put on IR….
As far as trading a safety….like I said, if I were another team, the only one I would want would be Tandy…..young, progressing and cheap…..the very reasons we want to keep him.
September 3rd, 2017 at 11:49 am
JP4
Read your last post. The fact that I could read it proves just how wrong you are about the Joes.
One of the major reasons I hang out here is because of the transparency of Joe and because he pretty much lets us all express our opinions.
He DOES have a legal responsiblity to stop libel and other posts that are simply personally cruel.
September 3rd, 2017 at 11:54 am
Canadabucsfan: yeah, those Browns kind of gave the Bucs 1s all they could handle in the 3rd preseason game. Browns may no longer be NFL crap-meisters for much longer. Need to find another team to take on the 1976 Bucs mantle…Jacksonville?
September 3rd, 2017 at 12:09 pm
JP4 no one gives a flying F about preseason
September 3rd, 2017 at 12:11 pm
The question being ask at one buc maybe who would be more likely to make it through waivers 52 or 82. I think either would be gladly put on our practice squad.
Thanks for the kind words St. Petebucsfan. I enjoy your posts daily.
September 3rd, 2017 at 12:15 pm
Joe. I think JP4 is talking about when the comment of a poster is deleted and in its place is a comment by the Joes about why the posters comment was deleted. Usually some thing bad about Duemig or unfairly attacking the Joes. I don’t think he meant “every” bad comment about the Joes.
September 3rd, 2017 at 12:18 pm
oh you must be right JP4….. our entire offense sitting basically and half the defense and let them score 0 points … they must be all stars …. (lmao) browns will still be competing for 1st overall pick with the jets, watch .
September 3rd, 2017 at 12:25 pm
Williams RB Bengals. Ran for over 100yds & caught 5 passes. Wouldn’t hurt to check him out. Think maybe Josh Robinson might be a casualty.
September 3rd, 2017 at 12:47 pm
@Joe
Joe in ur first article about Ward u stated u were not sure what the motivation to sign him might be? From where I’m sitting this looks pretty obvious. Lack of decent available corner depth, (most def going to see more 3 safety looks and maybe even 4 with a safety playing the role of a cb) and for everyone not familiar with Buddy Ryan’s historic 4-6 bear defense, more athletic bodies being able to rush the passer. The majority of our safeties are very athletic and quick. Imagine having 4 actual safeties on the field all lined up relatively close to each other all able to switch and take on each other’s assignments. You talk about confusion for an opposing QB not knowing who’s coming and who’s going to drop back in coverage, well, this is it. And why is it every time we get another player to add to a position where we already have some good players, you automatically think that makes one of the guys who is already here and established in the system trade bait? 7 days til opening day, Ward is a smart player but I doubt he has a genius level Eidetic Memory that’s going to “see” him on the field for more than a few spot plays for a while. Even Wilcox is miles ahead of where Ward currently is and Justin Evans is still more raw than a freshly cut from the cow ribeye. It was said about Joe Hayden, that you don’t give a guy 7 mil to ride the bench, well for 2 mil less, that’s what Ward is going to be doing for a little while atleast, and I would have much rather had Hayden waiting in the wings if needed or out there competing for playing time while acclimating himself to the system than our present lack of good corner depth. If I’m Licht, I also couldn’t have picked a better current player to groom my latest 2nd round pick than Ward as well. As long as his age doesn’t show up on the field with him, signing Ward will end up being a bargain. GO BUCS!!!
September 3rd, 2017 at 12:55 pm
Bonzai you cray if you think they are cutting Evans already.
It’s either cam lynch, JJ Wilcox, or Robinson IMO. But Robinson is a special teams ace, so he’s probably safe.
September 3rd, 2017 at 12:56 pm
Mike Garafolo says the contract has a 4mil base with upside to make 5mil.
September 3rd, 2017 at 1:07 pm
There are a lot of uninformed / misinformed negative naysayers on this site. It’s mind-boggling. This was a terrific signing by the Bucs. Ward is supremely talented and played a major role on a Super Bowl (x2) team. He brings talent AND the mentality it takes to win a ring into that locker room. Having J. Evans learn from guys like Wilcox and Ward is terrific. That’s how it should be done.
And for the love of anything sane will you whiners stop whining about Jeremy freakin’ McNichols. He was a 5th round undersized RB. He had like a 10% chance of being a relevant player with that draft status and size. We have 4 better RBs on the roster. End of story.
September 3rd, 2017 at 1:17 pm
Late to the party and forgive me if this has been mentioned…but Minnesota cut Alex Boone. Dude has started a ton of games, 6’8 and a total bada$$. If nothing else, would be exceptional fill in anywhere along the O line.
September 3rd, 2017 at 2:37 pm
Pistolpete. No thanks. Our o line will be much improved this year. They have all position filled and cross trained them. No need for the guy you mentioned. We just added a probowl caliber player in sweezy and Marpet is improving each year. And please no one say anything about d smith being replaced. How many teams have a left tackle who hasn’t missed a single game since he was drafted?
September 3rd, 2017 at 2:52 pm
Four million a year with incentives
September 3rd, 2017 at 2:54 pm
See Tony it is not about Mcnichols it is about not having a runningback and we could have but instead we have a 3rd string safety. We have to maximize our opportunity while Jameis and Evans are on their rookie deals we can’t be wasting a 2nd round pick on projects and kickers that flame out after one year. This whole Evans pick is going to haunt us for many years unless he turns out to be a all pro which doesn’t look likely at all.
September 3rd, 2017 at 3:17 pm
This team has a HORRIBLE track record w 2nd round picks. From the bad Dexter Jackson w Gruden, to Arielius Benn to Brian Price to Dequan Bower to Aguayo, and I am missing many many more. Oh yeah JUSTIN EVANS, who has been invisible throughout training camp. U can’t keep trading up to draft in the second round , even Ali Marpet, who is great BUT he would still been great in the 3rd or 4th round. This franchise has been hurt badly by these moves so hopefully things will improve. As for TJ Ward I’m fine, obviously Mike Smith wants him badly so let’s win NOW!!
September 3rd, 2017 at 3:23 pm
So I guess Safety required years of development in order to start? Seriously? So is Justin Evans a freaking BUST? Who in college scouting dept. losses their job over this wasted pick?
September 3rd, 2017 at 3:30 pm
Justin Evans hasn’t played a season and he’s a bust already? You all forget how bad our safeties looked last year adjusting to this defense. The kid might be ok, give him a chance.
September 3rd, 2017 at 3:44 pm
Our fans are stupid. We have arm chair gms saying we could have got marpet in the 4th round when all of the draft grades had him as a second rounder. News flash arm chair gms, just because you did not know about marpet, it doesnt mean the real gms didnt know. How is the marpet signing setting the bucs back? You cant hit on every pick. How many 4th rounders play like pro bowlers? Does licht get credit for that? How many 5th rounders turn into a legitimate starting lineman? Does licht get credit for that? Some are already labeling evans a bust, but are they giving licht credit for beckwith who look like a real stud? What about godwin? What about brate or humphries? Some of you dont deserve to have a team.
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:22 pm
Webster.. try not to get too frustrated.. It is amazing. Licht may be the best GM the franchise has ever had.. yeh I said it. Fans forget that just three years ago we were the worst in the league. 2 years ago we lost our last 4 games and fired our head coach. Last year we almost made the play offs but lost away to the team with the best record in the NFC and and a future HOF’er Drew Brees led team while decimated with injuries.
Has Licht been perfect, not even close. Just went through and documented every draft pick he’s had. It is very solid. Beyond respectable. Yeh, there was Aguayo, ASJ and Evans (maybe, we don’t know for sure yet but I am down on him), but there also is Smith, Marpet, Kwon, Pamphile, Godwin, Beckwith, Spence. People can say all they want how he missed on Cook or Mixon but that is simply a fallacy. He hit on Howard. Speaking of OJ80, the firsts are very solid. No misses. Winston, Mike Evans, VHIII, OJ80. No misses there.
Guys I’m sorry, because you aren’t going to get much better than that. Not every draft can you get Warren Sapp and Derrick Brooks. Do you know the rest of the draft? I didn’t. I had to look it up. Next 6 picks were, Melvin Johnson, Jerry Wilson, Clifton Abraham, Wardell Rouse, Steve Ingram, Jeffrey Rodgers.. and we picked up Kelley Holcomb as an UDFA.
I’m going to let you guys make your own conclusions.
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:23 pm
Next 6 picks by the Bucs that is.
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:26 pm
Fred I’m with you, we definitely need a solid backup qb… we all hope #3 stays strong and durable. He’s been busted in the grill a few times over his short time in NFL. Suh is nasty! He will knock you out and then step on your back as he lines up to do it again. 93 can knock you out but he will pick you up and hug you. Winston goes down, we’re done!!! Fitzpatrick has had one halfway decent year….
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:32 pm
testing
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:34 pm
To the “give Justin Evans 4 years before passing any judgment crowd”, how did the “give Aguayo a full season” work out? Aguayo sucked in preseason, he sucked in the season, and he sucked this year. Evans is riding that train, when you (blow) a second round pick on a safety then bury him in the depth chart with 3 players ahead of him, then spend big on a guy that another team released making your 2nd round pick the 5th safety on your roster, you’re using 2nd round picks wrong.
Oh and just remember, Aguayo and Dalvin Cook were 2nd round picks from FSU in consecutive years, Licht traded up for one of them and it wasn’t Dalvin Cook.
September 3rd, 2017 at 4:57 pm
Explain the trade to get from the Evans slot to Dalvin Cook. You would need to get in front of the Vikings (41st). Minnesota, gave up their 2nd (48th) and 4th (128th) to move up 7 slots. The Bucs would’ve had to move up from 50th to 39th at minimum because Carolina was at 40 and they wouldn’t deal with the Bucs. The question. Are you willing to give up Evans and Godwin for Cook? If so then ok, I will listen. Or if you are willing to give up OJ80, and for lets say Cook, Godwin and Njoku. I’ll even listen to that. But explain the situation. I’m not willing to part with OJ80 for anyone not named Myles Garrett in this draft.
Its just not that easy. This was not the 2016 draft. This was the deepest draft middle first to late third draft in a long, long time. 50 doesn’t turn into 39 without some serious compromise. I am not an Evans fan. I would’ve picked Godwin at 50. I nearly broke my laptop when they passed on him for Evans. Still can’t believe he lasted to 84. But it would’ve been difficult for Cook. Mixon, I’ll listen to. Maybe the 2nd and the 5th could have gotten you to 47. Maybe.
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:13 pm
Wonder if Evans can be a nickel corner. Seems like his tackling issues wouldn’t matter as much at nickle
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:19 pm
Tnew bottom line 2nd round picks should start or at least be a specialist at something like Spence. We passed on multiple backs for basically a 3rd string safety who looks lost and skinny. Mean while we are going with runningbacks who were on the street this time last year, twinkle toes or a undrafted back that can’t block. Yeah a 3rd string seems like the right pick. SMH
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:25 pm
Tj Ward is a better player than Evans and has won a Super Bowl. Of course he should start ahead of him coming off 2/3 pro bowls last 3 seasons. Don’t forget some people didn’t like the brent grimes signing either. Evans needs to work on his tackling so let him develop over the year. He may unseat one of the starters down the road. Calling him a bust after his rookie preseason when he had an injury during otas is a complete joke. Comparing aguayo in anyway to this is a complete joke.
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:36 pm
Looks like Wilcox traded to steelers. Wilcox and 7th rounder for a 6th I’m return. Interesting move but guess they preferred ward and got a slight return and contract off their hands. Sounds like he was slated to be a backup
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:37 pm
All i will say is take Dalvin out of the picture please explain to me again how marlon mack wasnt picked until 143< wouldnt he have looked good in pewter. So while you guys want to keep praising Licht, keep screwing up those second round picks and letting talent fall through your hands, REMEMBER MARLON MACK.
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:38 pm
Don’t know if somebody already noted this but we traded J.J. Wilcox to the Steelers with a 2019 7th round pick for a 2018 6th round pick
September 3rd, 2017 at 5:54 pm
N.. Again.. Go look at history. How many 2nd rounders end up immediate starters? the numbers aren’t that promising. Look, I am not an Justin Evans fan. I don’t get the pick at all. I hope that I am wrong. I have looked hard for anything to hang my hat on with him, but can’t find it.
Bobby.. I will listen to that argument. I thought Marlon Mack was a solid option. I think the Bucs would love their 2nd 3rd and 4th picks of the draft to be Godwin, Mack and Beckwith. But again, every gm will miss some.
My point is that when you truly look at the complete job Licht is doing building the roster. He has done a truly good job. This team was a total laughing stock when he took over the job. He was at the tail end of an awful cycle of football. But when you compare the 53 man roster of then to now. It is pretty impressive. Remember Winston speaking of the line his rookie year in Hard Knocks. Two of the O Line starters for the second preseason game didn’t even make the team!! That is a huge jump.
Hate on Licht all you want guys. I’m a fan of his.
September 3rd, 2017 at 6:08 pm
TNEW, i do believe we could have had von bell instead of aquayo. then Justin Evans never happens. You can say what you want to about this oline, but Jamesis is going to get killed again. I dont buy it, other than Mike Evans and Jamesis, most of these players could have been takin by a blind monkey and done as well as licht has done You win in the trenches on both sides of the ball and a strong running game and right now we dont have any of the above.
September 3rd, 2017 at 6:09 pm
Tnew
It was idiots bashing licht for picking marpet when it first happened because this player was still on the board or that player etc. Do you see any of those arm chair gms saying they were wrong? No. We even have idiots on this thread talking about how licht let talent continuosly slip through his hands without acknowledging all of the talent aquired. Btw…did you see anyone say give evans 4 years to develop? I didnt because that would be just as stupid as calling him a bust after 4 preaseason games. 87 if you are around, book mark these threads for later.
September 3rd, 2017 at 6:22 pm
Hey Webster, you tell me one that he got right, i can give you ten he missed on, so go away with that nonsense.
September 3rd, 2017 at 6:41 pm
Bobby c you are full of it. He has hit on way more draft picks then he missed not to mention his udfa. You go be a panthers fan.
September 3rd, 2017 at 6:52 pm
I guess at least then i would have a future running back right, oh my bad thats not what you meant. lol
September 3rd, 2017 at 6:58 pm
BTW webster Evans was a starter from day one, Why dont you throw your boy Evans out there to start and see how that works out, oh thats right he fourth on the depth chart, he may see some special teams work. Genius move Licht, second round pick for a special teams player, good job
September 3rd, 2017 at 6:59 pm
Just look at the very first post on this thread lol
Easy Peasy
September 3rd, 2017 at 7:09 pm
Bobby c you are very clueless. Hey kwon started as a 4th round pick. How many 4th rounders can say that? Hey beckwith is a bonafide starter to. No credit for that. You act as if evans is the first 2nd round pick in the history of the nfl not to start his 1st game in the nfl. Like i said, clueless.
September 3rd, 2017 at 8:01 pm
Joe, any reason the Bucs haven’t announced signing Ward yet?
September 3rd, 2017 at 8:09 pm
TNEW
Excellent job! I’m just going to sit back and let you deal with the trolls.
Logic makes them crawl back under the bridge. 🙂