Time To Cut Roberto Aguayo
August 11th, 2017
There is nothing left to see.
This week, winning Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter said the cold reality of the NFL requires kickers to make field goals less than 50 yards. Simple as that, he said.
Koetter didn’t mention extra points, but he didn’t have to go there. Those are must-haves, as well, even more than the long field goals.
Tonight, Roberto Aguayo missed an extra point against the Bengals in the preseason opener. And as far as Joe is concerned, he should be cut tomorrow.
Everyone associated with the Bucs said Roberto Aguayo’s many failures in the kicking game last year were all mental. They said he couldn’t be coached up, he just simply had to get his head right.
Well, Aguayo clearly didn’t have his head right tonight. No excuses. And the reality is the Bucs coaches have no answers — and they shouldn’t have any faith, either.
End it now. Bring in another kicker to compete with Folk.
The football season is about winning games. Aguayo just isn’t the guy. He’s proven it.
August 11th, 2017 at 9:10 pm
joes right put him out of his misery and just cut the youngman. while they are at it that slow bulky running back is a waste of time too
August 11th, 2017 at 9:11 pm
Agreed
August 11th, 2017 at 9:12 pm
Agree joe he has to go I don’t care where he was drafted. He just doesn’t have it. Bad pick let’s move on and not compound the problem.
August 11th, 2017 at 9:13 pm
The worst part is that it doesn’t seem to bother him
August 11th, 2017 at 9:14 pm
That right corner is garbage
August 11th, 2017 at 9:16 pm
I think he has to keep aguayao till after the next episode of hard knocks
August 11th, 2017 at 9:17 pm
I agree Joe, but to play Devil’s advocate…
“There is nothing left to see. ”
Well, we still haven’t seen Folk, so….
August 11th, 2017 at 9:23 pm
It is sad but true. He is such a cool dude, but we are looking to hit the playoffs this season. We should see a third kicker in the preseason before simply gifting the job to Folk.
Kickers are not like quarterbacks. You can find talented kickers who are unemployed. There are more than 32 decent kickers in the entire country.
August 11th, 2017 at 9:25 pm
NOw we’ve seen Folk. Decision is done. Roberto has to be feeling pretty lousy right now. No need to kick him while he’s down. (no pun intended.)
August 11th, 2017 at 9:27 pm
Bye o Aguayo
August 11th, 2017 at 9:29 pm
Agree Joe. At this point aside from the lack of dependability Ohnono has become a huge distraction. We do not need that. By the time he could kick his way out of being a distraction the season will be 3/4’s over.
Nobody…including his teammates…can be expected to have faith in him.
August 11th, 2017 at 9:30 pm
Sad but true
August 11th, 2017 at 9:31 pm
Aguayo is toast ! This team deserves better .
August 11th, 2017 at 9:32 pm
I can’t defend him anymore. Cut your losses. Time to move on.
August 11th, 2017 at 9:35 pm
Damn it…..cut him. I hate being wrong, but at some point enough is enough.
August 11th, 2017 at 9:37 pm
Aguayo’s gotta go-o
August 11th, 2017 at 9:37 pm
He has the yips, and they are like herpes. Once you get them they are forever.
August 11th, 2017 at 9:37 pm
HBO gonna be juicy next couple weeks with this so he won’t get cut soon.
August 11th, 2017 at 9:39 pm
I love it when I’m thinking about something with the Bucs and I come on here to say it and it’s already been brought up as topic of conversation and a bunch of other ppl had the exact same thought. Ba bye aguayo! Can’t win them all king Licht.
August 11th, 2017 at 9:46 pm
Please don’t make us go through another year of missed opportunities. This guy should have been cut last year what is wrong with these coaches. Oh, yeah the same thing that is wrong with the rest of the administration for the Tampa Bay Bucs. They’re afraid to make a move. Another losing season? It will be if we keep that kicker.
August 11th, 2017 at 9:49 pm
Silliness. There were over 50 missed extra points last season in the NFL, including 12 on one Sunday.
So Ben, what’s Aguayo’s trade value, in your opinion? –Joe
August 11th, 2017 at 9:50 pm
Tell him to fake an injury to go on I.R. and will deal with this crap next year!!!!
August 11th, 2017 at 9:56 pm
Folk hit the nice 45-yarder down the middle. Aguayo gone tomorrow and bring in some more competition for Folk.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:02 pm
I think you meant time to cut Martino and Fitz
August 11th, 2017 at 10:02 pm
If I had to wager, I’d say they give him the next game as a final put up or shut up moment.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:05 pm
Unfortunately I agree, he’ll get a chance somewhere else, just needs to fix his head.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:06 pm
This has to go down as the biggest draft since JaMarcus Russell.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:11 pm
he hit the ball straight…just lined up too far to the right.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:15 pm
Who’d sign him ?!?!?
Then again, someone will because everyone has more than one kicker now and he’ll only be offered a minimum contract.
Excellent point. Another kicker should be brought in as competition for Folk.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:18 pm
After watching hard knocks I have a better understanding on the decision making processes of licht. He must’ve had a hole in his mug the day he decided to draft aguyao
August 11th, 2017 at 10:26 pm
Yup, missed 47. Bye Felicia.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:27 pm
Yep, he’s done.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:28 pm
They won’t cut him. The Bucs management doesn’t want to admit they made a mistake with that pick.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:29 pm
Oops he missed again!!! Bye bye Roberto!
August 11th, 2017 at 10:30 pm
Why cut him???? It’s preseason. Folk isn’t exactly looking good either.
Let Roberto get to final cuts at least. Unless they bring in someone else.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:30 pm
Everyone on the planet knew that missed kick just got Aguayo cut. He is gone tonight or tomorrow. Did you see Dirk’s body language. Gone and good riddance. Ain’t nobody got time for multiple missed kicks
August 11th, 2017 at 10:32 pm
Should be cut before they even get on the plane, leave him in Cincinnati and give his seat to someone else.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:34 pm
and………..he’s cut.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:34 pm
We dont need see Folk, kinda have tape on him. This dude sucks, sucked last year, head case. Bye Felicia ✌🏽
August 11th, 2017 at 10:34 pm
Yah. He is gone guys. Pretty captain obvious. They need to bring in another kicker to compete with folk.
And Licht will 100% cut him. He’s admitted he makes mistakes and moves on.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:36 pm
Sad thing is, he was playing beyond great in college. No one could of predicted this. I want him to stay a Buc but his performance gives me bo other choice but to agree with you guys.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:37 pm
But he didn’t miss every field goal!
August 11th, 2017 at 10:38 pm
The fact that he’s still lining up to the right tells you everything. Just have the confidence to kick the ball straight. Who lines it up on the right hash? It’s an extra point and you’re at a disadvantage lining up right. He doesn’t have any confidence and it’s causing 100 percent of his problems. I don’t care if we spent a first on him, can’t afford to miss extra points anymore. He almost killed me last year and I’m married now, I can’t afford to stroke out on my wife because of a second round kicker. Adios.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:38 pm
We can’t do this anymore. Leave him in Ohio. He will probably be better for it.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:38 pm
If anything we should puthim in IR
August 11th, 2017 at 10:40 pm
He wasn’t just a 2nd Round pick. We traded up to pick him! One of the worst picks of all time. Sick and tired of this mental midget.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:40 pm
Its over.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:42 pm
WOW way to play yourself out of the NFL, you are quite possibly the worst 2nd round pick we ever had, and that’s saying a lot given our busted ass draft history. I hope Coach K finally sees the light and tosses his ass overboard, no need to see anymore of this trainwreck of a kicker.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:42 pm
yeah i mean i dunno what to say..
August 11th, 2017 at 10:44 pm
Yeah I’m sick of seeing him run off the field. Making that face where he looks like he just ate a lemon.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:45 pm
OOf, yea I don’t see him improving this season if that’s how he’s starting again…
He might have a good career somewhere, but it won’t be here.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:48 pm
He’s gotta go. He’s a really good guy, and was a damn good Nole, but his head just isn’t right, and it’s not gonna get rich here.
If he’s even gonna have to have a shot in the league it’s gonna need to be on another team. The story has already been written for him in TB.
August 11th, 2017 at 10:48 pm
Licht drafted the most accurate kicker in the history of college football after a season in which Kyle Brindza and Conner Barth cost us games that should’ve been won. While I understand the hindsight, Bucs fans need to accept that if YOU had the chance to draft the best kicker in college history, you’d do it!! Everyone, including myself, keeps saying how vital this part of the game is for our team to succeed. SO, WHY WOULD YOU NOT DRAFT THE BEST KICKER IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL HISTORY?!?’ This failure is NOT on Licht. It’s on the failure to perform by THE BEST KICKER IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL HISTORY!!! If Jameis would’ve sucked, would that been Licht’s fault? NO!! Own your sh$t Roberto!! Good bye, good riddance! I know that I now can go take a piss when we line up for extra points because Folk won’t miss those. GO BUCS!! And GO-Awayo!!!
August 11th, 2017 at 10:51 pm
there’s nothing left to say either……other than…..Amen Joe….Amen!
August 11th, 2017 at 10:58 pm
Someone named Sam Ficken just hit a 45-yarder for KC. But honestly, who do you sign now — the 65th best kicker in the league?
August 11th, 2017 at 11:08 pm
Fuk him
August 11th, 2017 at 11:12 pm
Yes you sign the 65th best kicker in the league because Aguayo is 66th.
August 11th, 2017 at 11:14 pm
Can you put a guy on i.r. for mental injuries? I need i.r. for mental injuries every time I see this dude line up for a field goal. And when he misses an extra point my furniture needs i.r.
August 11th, 2017 at 11:27 pm
I’ve been saying since last season his mechanics are totally screwed up, and now he’s a head case.
August 11th, 2017 at 11:52 pm
Good kid. Kicked under great pressure at FSU and never batted an eye.
Best kicker in college history.
Dont think anyone could have predicted this.
But yeah, hes just not gonna pull it together here.
Fare thee well Roberto. Now that the pressure is off, go kick 15 years for someone else
August 12th, 2017 at 12:19 am
Yeah, we should let him go just like we did Matt Bryant. You guys are acting like this is Mike Husted. The 2 things I see with him is 1) He stands both feet and body facing forward, bc he has natural leg strength to get away with that, but it’s not accurate, forces pulls. 2) His plant foot is inconsistent, meaning his head is up when he kicks, great accurate kickers heads are down until they hit the ball, just like a golf swing. Am I the only person that see’s this?
August 12th, 2017 at 12:20 am
Didn’t we find Matt Bryant working at his pawn shop? Go find a kicker that can at the very least get his extra points to go through the uprights! This kid we picked in the second round last year should of been thrown out with last year’s garbage! My god , one of the worst kickers I have ever seen come through the doors at one buc place.check that , the worst kicker! Good bye knucklehead !
August 12th, 2017 at 12:31 am
I said cut him over and over last year. This is all about trying to prove Licht is a genius instead of doing what was best for this team. When Licht decided before the draft that he wasn’t taking Cook he hinted at it by saying he is not trying to please the fans he is here to take this team to the Super Bowl. So how is he doing so far tonight fans? Did this team look like a Super Bowl Team? Our slow LB had a big season at LSU, but he is too slow for NFL success and contrary to hyping him from the TV booth, he was a bust tonight in stopping the run. Our athletic, smooth and fast Safety taken in the draft is still missing tackles and failing to tie up the legs when trying to take down runners and WRs. I warned of those mistakes by Licht in the draft and they proved it tonight. And we needed a proven Tackle in free agency too and trying our UCLA tackle at RT was exposed tonight as well. The Bucs deserved a lot better!
August 12th, 2017 at 12:33 am
Way too early. Put the pressure on him make him be perfect from here on out. If not the Folk has done it for years
August 12th, 2017 at 12:43 am
On the positive side Jameis came out hot and accurate from the start but he needed to spread the ball around more instead of focusing too much on Evans. Poor CJ and our third round pick this year were not even targeted by Jamesis. The other positive was that can now save this year is that we didn’t miss Shepherd on Special Teams this year.
August 12th, 2017 at 1:20 am
Can someone tell me if there was 1 kicker perfect on xp last year? There wasn’t one. Also if Folk is so damn good why did the worst team in the NFL cut him? With what is sitting on the market, I’ll take the kid with so much upside over a washed up kicker who can’t even kick for the Jets. Folk barely had enough leg on a 45 yarder, WHO IS GONNA KICKOFF?
August 12th, 2017 at 1:33 am
Owlykat spot on Licht is the tricky wildcat GM instead of drafting the weakness which is the OL, he is grabbing a K in round 2 or even VH3 who is good but corners can be had OL cant… jameis and skill spots good but bucs need legit TB for first 3 weeks but licht passed on AP and any rb in draft 8-8
August 12th, 2017 at 2:04 am
I don’t understand after all the failed attempts which started in training camp last season and till now hasn’t changed, why is there still support for him in Bucdom.
The one explanation that I continue to see is He is the best kicker in NCAA history. The problem He is NOT the best kicker in NCAA history. He’s the NCAA’s all time second most accurate kicker all time, the AAC’s all time most accurate kicker.
Since when is being the most accurate, or 2nd most , make you the best kicker in NCAA history? Accurate, yes! Clutch? nope! Longest kick? No! Most over 50 yards? Well…..no. Did He win the Lou Groza award each year in college? Uh no He did not. C’mon the best kicker in NCAA history certainly is the best kicker each year right? I mean if you’re not recognized as the best kicker for 2 seasons out of 3 how the he’ll do you become the best kicker in NCAA history? Basically this false narrative that continues to go unchecked is based on a single metric.
Same thing with Jameis btw. Nfl greatest rookie and year 2 player in history. He is the first player as a rookie to have his first two seasons passing 4000 yards .
A single metric, and if that’s all that determines the best all time then yeah He’s it. But that’s not all that determines who’s the best.
This misplaced emphasis on a single metric can cloud a rational decision making process like to keep or cut a kicker that is the worst kicker in the NFL .
(If you reply by challenging He’s not the worst, then your clueless)
August 12th, 2017 at 5:52 am
I can’t be the only one that hated seeing him on the field at the end of the game last night. I looked to see which kicker it was and as soon as I saw the number, I was confident it was a miss. That’s the problem, when the O’s are better that you will miss as a kicker you are useless. Time to move on, either bring in new competition or just give folk the extra reps
August 12th, 2017 at 7:48 am
I think most of us really wanted to see him win this kicking battle. What a disappointment. He got to go!!! Like yesterday!!!
August 12th, 2017 at 7:58 am
I don’t expect him to win the job at this point, but I’m not in favor of cutting him just yet. The plan was to give them both until final cuts, and I think that plan should remain in place.
What will we do if Folk misses all of his kicks in the third preseason game?
If anything, I don’t think either one has earned the spot yet, so I am completely in favor of bringing in another kicker to compete.
This is one meaningless preseason game…probably the most meaningless of all four games. I know it’s only a day later and emotions are high for most fans, but really…mine are not.
Koetter did what I hoped he would do. He put attempting to win aside for the good of the team last night, and sent Aguayo in with 58 seconds left on the clock instead of going for a TD and an onside kick. Agauyo’s kick was as meaningless as the game, except for evaluation purposes, and he certainly blew the kick.
But you don’t cut him over one preseason game. Last year doesn’t count. It is in the past. You get him in the remaining PS games and then you see if he overcomes his issues or not.
I see all the comments about technique being off…but really, it doesn’t matter. Every kicker has his own technique. We all know his issues are all in his head. He’s in a rutt and cannot seem to get out of it yet. Give him until final cuts at least.
To be honest, even going on the assumption that Folk wins the job…I’m not all that secure about our kicking situation. He isn’t much better than Agauyo. If I were Licht, I would be searching for a better kicker when first cuts are made. I’d sign 2-3 and add them to the battle at this point, because neither Agauyo nor Folk are apparently dependable.
August 12th, 2017 at 8:05 am
MarineBucsFan…dude, first, thanks for being who you are. I’m retired military and have a story about how a marine saved by my bacon but that’s for another day. Second, are you out of F-ing mind? Aguayo’s had all last year to win the kicking battle. There should be none. He was his old self, missing easy kicks that he has to get, and some tougher ones that he SHOULD get that change the dynamic of what the Bucs need to do. Granted, preseason, no gameplan/strategy. But all the MF has to do is come onto the field and put the ball through the uprights. This will on Hard Knocks for sure. This kid is done. Now, to you comment. I didn’t want to see him win the kicking battle. I wanted to see if he fixed his issues from last year. I am satisfied now. He’s done.
Hey Joe, how long are you going to leave me in Hell?
August 12th, 2017 at 8:07 am
@Marine Bucsfan…..correction, that is, a Marine saved MY bacon. Embassy in the CENTCOM AOR. You guys rock!
August 12th, 2017 at 8:14 am
Joe’s recommendatoin brings another dimension to what many where thinking. That is, is if Folk or Aguayo. I love the idea it should now be Folk AND SOMEONE FREAKIN’ ELSE. It’s Week 1 of the preseason and we know what’s behind Door #2 is a lifetime suppy of rock salt. So let’s add Door #3.
And Joe…so you and I don’t agree on Martin and I got into your knickers on it. So if I don’t do broach that subject how about letting me post like a free-speech American again?
August 12th, 2017 at 8:20 am
The NFL is put up or shut up. You are paid to produce. You have to take the emotion out of it. If he can’t make them with no pressure on him-I do not have confidence that he will make it when we need him to. The prude is in the pudding-his numbers speak for itself.
August 12th, 2017 at 8:30 am
I agree its just embarrassing, we’ve seen this show before.
August 12th, 2017 at 9:03 am
This was undoubtedly a bad pick, but rather than Folk, I’d wait it out for whoever gets cut between the 2 kickers Cincy had last night. The rookie was swinging it, and Bullock has a solid past track record and is younger than Folk. Aguayo lost it his last year at FSU if people are being honest.
August 12th, 2017 at 9:12 am
It’s hard for some people to admit a mistake and move on. Aguayo was a mistake! If he had been taken in the 4th or 5th round, maybe you could justify keeping him on the practice squad for a year or two to develop. But Jason Licht (who has done a marvelous job otherwise in the draft) just needs to admit his mistakes. The first mistake was wasting draft picks to move up and get him in the first place! The second mistake was NOT bringing in a veteran kicker last year to compete with him!
Admit the mistake, cut Aguayo and move on!
August 12th, 2017 at 9:29 am
Agreed. He is a choker. Big fan of his at FSU… Until his final game when he squirted a field goal attempt in the 4th quarter under some pressure. He’s a choker and he is not going to change. I’ve seen more than enough. Cut him now.
August 12th, 2017 at 10:11 am
@ Bonzai: you cut him NOW because not doing so leaves questions in the heads of the entire team. Keeping him around can affect morale because THEY don’t have faith in him.
The team does not need the drama.
Cut him now, and bring in another leg or two to compete.
It is best for Aguayo, too. HE knows he’s history. He’s a mental wreck right now. Maybe for his sake a change in scenery would do him some good.
IMO, a player should be cut as soon as the coaching staff knows he’s no longer in their plans.
I can’t think of any kicker ever in the NFL who has been given as many chances as Aquayo, has consistently has failed, and was still on the roster.
August 12th, 2017 at 10:23 am
I said before camp started..Roberto should take the money he stole from the Bucs and open up a nice little restaurant down by Laredo, TX somewheres. The guy for some reason cannot make the transition to the big Boyz. Just remember Roberto, don’t mess up my order and give me..extra hot sauce in my drive thru order!!!
August 12th, 2017 at 11:55 am
Again, I’m proved correct for the God-knows-how-manyeth time. Even as a 35 year FSU fan, and big fan of Aguayo, I screamed out loud when I first heard we got him in the 2nd and I complained out loud for probably a good two weeks.
Aguayo had virtually ZERO high-pressure kicks during his entire FSU career. The lone 2-3 I can remember, he missed them all. Licht did him no favor by drafting him in the 2nd round–there’s stealth pressure psychologically and NOT UNTIL he is cut and sits out of the NFL for a good year will he get his mind right.
Aguayo will one day be a dominant kicker in the NFL, but right now, even he doesn’t understand what’s wrong with him (once he’s cut tho, it will give his mind a complete reboot)
August 12th, 2017 at 12:20 pm
Rick Stroud reporting the Bucs have released Aguayo..
August 12th, 2017 at 12:58 pm
Fred E. Bucs,
Thanks for your service and paving the way brother! I will retire in 3 short years!!!
I hear you on Aguayo.
August 12th, 2017 at 3:05 pm
MarineBusFan….
Congratulations, thank you for YOUR service and have a long and happy life chasiing dreams and not A-holes!