MVP Chatter
August 18th, 2017
The hype is building.
First it was Adam Schein. Now add two Bucs Super Bowl champions to the mix.
America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, an MVP candidate? After watching Jameis complete 21 of 29 passes for 196 yards in one half against the Jaguars last night, former Bucs stud defensive tackle Booger McFarland has seen enough.
The SiriusXM NFL Radio and SEC Network personality watched last night’s game and is all in on the James-for-MVP train.
@ESPNBooger: Jameis performance tonight on National TV will only fuel the dark horse MVP talk… he deserves it.
Before the game even kicked off, Chucky, on the ESPN broadcast, said Jameis was a true league MVP candidate.
Jiminy Christmas! (as Chucky likes to say)
Jameis just might deserve it but dang, Jameis cannot continue to pull stunts like he did last night like throwing the ball up for grabs into the end zone when he was being sacked. As Koetter said last night, elite quarterbacks don’t do that crap.
And to be an MVP, Joe figures, a guy must be elite.
August 18th, 2017 at 11:03 am
Booger also said good thing about Lovie and his defense so he’s lost all credibility and is only important in his own home. Shut up booger nobody cares.
August 18th, 2017 at 11:06 am
As frustrating as it is when it doesn’t work out I really like how he competes and tries to do whatever he can to make a play. It definitely looks bad at times but he has proven that he can also make a miracle play out of a loss in an instant. His instincts are fantastic and what makes him magic.
August 18th, 2017 at 11:08 am
Jameis looked incredible last night until that crazy int, and it kind of went back to square 1 for me but, Jameis is making huge strides to be in that “elite” conversation
August 18th, 2017 at 11:11 am
I thought he did look very polished….problem was the defense is likely running a very vanilla version of their scheme, the Jags have a new coach/scheme to implement and new players to get adapted. Jameis is in the 3rd yr of the same offense….with many of the same players as well as weapons everywhere. He should look solid under those circumstances in the preseason. If he didn’t, we would be in panic mode. The hail mary pass in the red zone is his normal nemesis. When he makes a turnover, it directly correlates to taking points away from us or easy points for the other team. You cant win doing that…..
August 18th, 2017 at 11:12 am
MVPs don’t throw the stupid INTs like he did near the end of the half when he was on his back. I don’t care if it was called back, it shows his decision making is still horrid. I still think, unless he matures, he’s the weak link on this offense – and I hope he matures.
August 18th, 2017 at 11:14 am
Im the originator and member of Jameis Winston Nut Carriers but…
When he stops making those bone head mistakes and become too emotional and instead live another day…is when he will be MVP
August 18th, 2017 at 11:17 am
Agree No more Hail Marys while on his back and eyes closed
August 18th, 2017 at 11:25 am
SCBucsFan
Brett Farve would like to disagree with you…. He through garbage up a few times every game on the way to his mvp’s
August 18th, 2017 at 11:27 am
“Jameis just might deserve it but dang, Jameis cannot continue to pull stunts like he did last night like throwing the ball up for grabs into the end zone when he was being sacked. As Koetter said last night, elite quarterbacks don’t do that crap.”
That play was a little throw back for the Tallahassee/Alabama fan base attending the game.
Now lets get back to work!!!
August 18th, 2017 at 11:27 am
jameis is always going to make a play or 2 a game that make you throw your hands in the air and yell that’s just in his dna but i totally agree what he did last night should never be done by an nfl quarterback. hopefully he learns from that mistake and never does something so stupid again. he needs to put the phrase “live to play another day” up in his locker room so he knows that when a play is dead a play is dead! it seems so simple but jameis is just so competitive he never wants to have to take a sack or throw the ball away and that’s something he really needs to learn. if that was a real game and the int held up that’s a real momentum swing for the other team. jameis really impressed me last night with his poise and how he was progressing through his reads but damn that play was so ugly and you could see him start to force things at the end of the half… still overall very pleased and i think he is ready to take that step into the top tier level of qbs in this league. GO BUCS !
August 18th, 2017 at 11:31 am
I agree on the MVP talk is premature. However, Brett Favre won 3 MVP awards while adding plenty of gray hair to Mike Holmgren s head along the way. Looking forward to see if Jameis can reach that level.
August 18th, 2017 at 11:35 am
TMax Favre makes throws Winston can only dream about
August 18th, 2017 at 11:43 am
WHOA!!!!!!!!!!
SLOW DOWN
August 18th, 2017 at 11:45 am
You gotta admit that interception was one of the funniest ones you’ve ever seen though. It was like a 7 yard hail mary lol
August 18th, 2017 at 11:48 am
SCBucsFan – As soon as you said Winston was the weak link on the offense, 99.99% of us stopped paying attention to anything you write. That was beyond silly and you clearly have some anti Winston agenda.
August 18th, 2017 at 11:49 am
the team needs to finish some more drives off with Touchdowns. not only are FGs an iffy scoring proposition right now, they also don’t win games or MVP races. this team is dominating the first 90 or so yards of the field but we need to cover those last 10 better or playoff and MVP will look foolish
August 18th, 2017 at 11:54 am
I am getting worried about swelled heads.
The Bucs have proven NOTHING at this point!
August 18th, 2017 at 11:55 am
I don’t know about funny LC but it was certain slapstick dumb! That play began a few series of sloppy play by the offense. Started getting penalties and stopping themselves. Having said that, I’ll take it. They dominated the Jags so completely its almost like they got bored and stopped taking them seriously.
August 18th, 2017 at 12:26 pm
SCBucsFan Says:
“he’s the weak link on this offense”
Robert9? Is that you?
Get the fluck outta here with that bullsh!t dude.
August 18th, 2017 at 12:43 pm
Best formula for being named MVP (in addition to having a career year) is WINNING!
Does Cam win 2015 MVP if the Panthers are 10-6 and lose early in the playoffs?
Does Matt Ryan win 2016 MVP if Brady wasn’t suspended and the the Falcons didn’t make it all the way to the Super Bowl?
100% NO in both cases.
If the Bucs make it to the Super Bowl – then Jameis has a good chance of winning MVP. If not – then he doesn’t.
Simple as that – as the simpleton would say…
August 18th, 2017 at 12:44 pm
You can add Steve Mariucci to the list of MVP endorsers!!! Great to see this team getting these accolades… Now they need to prove it on the field when it counts. Go Bucs!!!
August 18th, 2017 at 12:53 pm
Winston could’ve had 230 yards and a td in 1 half if evans catches the ball…..GO BUCS!!!
August 18th, 2017 at 1:05 pm
Winston is one of the best things to happen to the Bucs ever. I realize this is just preseason but I do not know if I recall seeing a Buc offense move the ball so consistently down the field with the starters in the game.
Jameis is continuing to learn and develop but at 23 years old and with his number of starts in the NFL at his age, he if not this year, for many years to come should be an MVP candidate every season. He just needs to continue to get experience. At this point, I think the biggest problem I see with our Winston led Offense is that we bog down in the red zone too often. We need more TD’s and less FG attempts.
August 18th, 2017 at 1:27 pm
There was a lot last night that looked really good!!!! The quick short slants!!!!!! The stretching the field of the long ball!!! The accuracy of the deep ball looked very good as well!!!!!! Lots to be excited about in Buc Land!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 18th, 2017 at 2:22 pm
Ummmm, so am I the only one that thinks that Bone Head play was actually a smart one…
Considering the fact the reffs missed a call for ripping at the back of JWs helmet is a penalty that most likely gets called during the regular season.
A free play typically means free play jump ball.
I think they realized they missed the call. The very gray progress was stopped call…
Just saying. Its a smart play if the penalty was call for unnecessary roughness blow to a QB head.
Otherwise its a dumb play. Surely JW felt a call was going to be made and just through it up….
Not sure why that is not being discussed???
August 18th, 2017 at 2:47 pm
DB55 – Lovie had the Bucs defense as a top 10 defense when he was fired. Amazing how you Lovie haters just can’t wrap your head around the fact the defense was way outplaying the available talent. Who did the Bucs have at corner and safety, at LB outside of David, on the d-line outside of McCoy? Lovie was able to take that mess and get them into the top 10 – it’s quite amazing what he got out of them.
August 18th, 2017 at 3:14 pm
JAB83:
Good analysis because it could have been a horse collar penalty or a hands to the face penalty, but obviously you can not assume that if you are Jameis.
Despite that mistake, I have been saying before Jamies was even drafted that he would eventually be the best QB in the NFL and I still am confident that he will get to that level.
After all the loosing us Bucs fans deserve the great fortune of having Jamies as the Bucs QB.
Great things are on the horizon for the franchise.
August 18th, 2017 at 3:33 pm
@rod munch
They were 10th in yards against, and the “Truth” is they were 26th in total points scored against!!!!!!!!!
And the schedule was soft and if they did not play a backup or 3rd sting QB they got blown out!!!!!!! But keep thinking how amazing it was!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!!
The Incompetent one can not even cut it in a third rate college program!!!!!!!!
Its as simple as that!!!!!!!!
August 18th, 2017 at 4:09 pm
“Shut up booger nobody cares.”
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Says the same person who regurgitates the same nonsense over and over. Nobody cares about your opinion, trust me. I can guarantee more people care about Booger than you.
August 18th, 2017 at 5:05 pm
The Jameis naysayers on the comments section of this site are idiots. Period. You literally have zero concept how fortunate you are that your favorite team has an elite level talent that is just 23 years old at the helm. 23 years old. I’m certain by the wording of some of these posts that some of you hadn’t figured out yet how to wipe your nose or your butts when you were 23.
He made a mistake in the preseason and will be coached up on it. Why isn’t anyone griping about the perfect bomb he dropped perfectly into Evans’ hands a few plays earlier that was an easy TD catch – one that Evans would catch 95 times out of 100. Evans catches that and you same naysayers are frolicking naked in the streets chanting Jameis’ name.
All this tells me is that the naysayers have zero knowledge of football and definitely a ZERO sum knowledge of Buc history. Take your negativity crap and go root for Jacksonville. That’s a team and a QB situation that deserves your rambling ire.
Go Bucs and let’s trim the putrid fat and get rid of these naysayer negative fans who are blind to the fortunate situation they are in with their team. Don’t let the door hit you.
August 18th, 2017 at 5:38 pm
Realist – The stat everyone goes by, when talking about top defenses, is yards allowed. When on TV you hear the Bucs had the 15th ranked defense last year, they’re talking about yards allowed. It’s always yards allowed. Anywho you failed to explain to my who exactly the Bucs had at corner and safety or middle LB or DE under Lovie. What Lovie did with such garbage players is really impressive. Lovie played a traditional Tampa 2, you know the same defensive scheme that produced arguably the best defense in the history of football and Lovie sort of did pretty well with the Bears as well getting them to the SB. This hatred for Lovie is nonsense and just comes from the kiddos who think you have to blitz on every play and if you don’t you don’t know how to coach.
August 18th, 2017 at 5:43 pm
Tony – I agree, people bashing Jameis are just dolts (not many names get through the mod filter so it has to be dialed way down from what I really thing). Jameis is going to make mistakes, he’s going to do that his entire career, every single QB will make mistakes. But as a Favre clone he’s going to make more mistakes than say Brady, but that’s OK, Favre is a 1st ballot HOF’er despite being far and away the all time leader in INTs. Everyone, including Dirk, needs to chill out on thinking Jameis needs to make sure on every single play the guy is wide open or he needs to not throw the ball. If the team only wanted a game manager that wouldn’t make turnovers then they should have stuck with Mike Glennon. Winston is a playmaker, and as such, he’s going to make some amazing highlight plays – and he’s going to make some plays where you just go what were you thinking.
Deal with it, or go buy a used Glennon jersey.
August 18th, 2017 at 5:56 pm
All-Time INT leaders…
1 Brett Favre 336
2 George Blanda 277
3 John Hadl 268
4 Vinny Testaverde 267
5 Fran Tarkenton 266
I knew Vinny had to be there somewhere!
Just looking at the numbers this is amazing, George Blanda played for 26 years, from 1949 to 1975. That’s amazing, he started 4 years after Hitler, played all the way through the Korean and Vietnam wars and retired when disco was king. Heck he saw the rise and fall of the dreaded hippies as well. What an eventful time period to play football through.
According to Wikipedia he was one of only two players to play in four different decades (John Carney 1988–2010, is the other)… John Carney, kicker, actually started out with the Bucs before going on to the Chargers. Think of what Carney played through – when he started in 1988 the Berlin wall was still standing and the Soviet Union and communism was still a thing – he ended his career with Obama in office and everyone having an iPhone (unless you were too poor to get an iPhone, then you had an Android).
August 18th, 2017 at 7:51 pm
@Rod Munch,
Dude, I’m not trying to be a jerk but you’re dead wrong on this one. Lovie’s defense was absolutely horrible. It’s not even worth me double checking, because I know we didn’t have a top 10 defense. As for the lack of talent, you can pin that on Lovie. he’s the one that loved Mike Jenkins. He’s the one that couldn’t use Revis. He’s the one that brought in all those garbage players to fit his system. He’s the one that brought in his kid and friends to coach the secondary (which they were not qualified for). He’s the one who refused to change anything, even though it clearly wasn’t working. Nobody else. Those are all on Lovie. I’m not going to lie – I wanted the Bucs to hire Lovie. I was full confident he would lead us back to relevance. But I was 100% wrong. He was a horrible coach in almost every way imaginable. Look at what he’s doing in college. He’s probably a great guy with lots of knowledge of football, but he’s just not good at coaching in today’s game. Anyone who saw us play would know that.
August 18th, 2017 at 8:07 pm
Jameis Winston Development
As originator and only member of the Jameis Winston Nut Carriers , Kobe is a huge fan… HOWEVER
Kobe is sadden from his progress in his mental emotional control/ composure on the field…Jameis is the QB/Middle linebacker mentality
Its very appropiate that this thread is about MVP.
Even the Buc sheep has seen past MVP quality QBs in the last 10-20 years
The Montanas, Bradys, Mannings, warners…
When adversity rise, the MVP QBs display calm composed leadership to the huddle. Mentally they are in control and others follow him because his confident demeanor
Look at Brees for ex. He riles up the team at the pregame hype but when he is in the huddle and field, Brees the composed mentally sharp leader that his teammates lean on. Jameis is still lacking in this mental game
Kobe believes that Jameis plays too wired and neckbreaking warp speed. You ever hear his after game press conferences. night and day. relaxed composed thoughtful leader unlike when he is close to out of control headbutting on field player.
Kobe anthony robbins believes in modeling. Jameis has to replicate the cool joe montana mental skillset to lead this city to the NFL top
August 19th, 2017 at 12:21 am
I agree with Rod Munch and Tony… people want to jump all over Jameis for being Jameis…he is still a WORK IN PROGRESS so he will still make mistakes…it is in his nature…even at his worst he is better than any Bucs QB in the past…
definition of ELITE: a select part of a group that is superior to the rest in terms of ABILITY or QUALITIES
BEING RISKY or sometimes BONEHEAD is Jameis’s uniqueness that sets him apart. WHEN he’s good he’s very good!
August 20th, 2017 at 3:16 pm
“… when he started… the Soviet Union and communism was still a thing – he ended his career with Obama [and budding communism in America].” 😢
There. I fixed it.
August 21st, 2017 at 9:41 am
CALM DOWN ! The kid was feeling it and got caught up trying to end a great drive with a TD. The kid is a young gifted QB that has improved and matured as a person while playing for the Bucs. CALM DOWN!