Koetter: Aguayo Was “Haunted”
August 12th, 2017
Perhaps it was the ghost of Bucs second-round picks that doomed Roberto Aguayo, the same evil spirit that stole the football life from Sabby The Goat Piscitelli, the bad Dexter Jackson, Arron Sears, Da’Quan Bowers, Brian Price and Austin Seferian-Jackwagon.
Or maybe it was just Aguayo having to perform last night in Cincinnati, where Michael “Ghost” Johnson, who fleeced Team Glazer for eight figures, still prowls the Bengals turf and adds to his bank account.
Today, Dirk Koetter said Aguayo was indeed “haunted” as a Buccaneer — haunted by “inconsistency” that led to him getting waived this morning. Joe was pleased Koetter didn’t point to any personal issues that might have been brewing with Aguayo.
For the rest of the NFL, the question is whether Aguayo’s inconsistency was because of mechanics of nerves.
The Bucs always said everything was in Aguayo’s head, but that attitude might not be shared leaguewide.
Joe would bet a few bucks that the Jets put in a waiver claim for Aguayo.
The Jets can’t lose. They’re trying to tank the season, so Aguayo would be a natural. And if he successfully turns around his game, then they can always work around his success and still retain a young, inexpensive kicker on the rise.
August 12th, 2017 at 6:00 pm
Dammit dude was pulling for you.
August 12th, 2017 at 6:06 pm
It’s really quite sad when players get cut….but usually they are on the bubble….UDFA or players toward the end of their career…..but it is tragic when a player is drafted high…..as unquestionable talent and great character but gets cut for performance issues.
I empathize with Roberto and his entire family now….this is a difficult time for the kid.
August 12th, 2017 at 6:21 pm
Aguayo to the Jets possibility is the 2nd time I hear that today. I hope it works out for him.
If worst comes to worst, he should finish his degree. Is just one more year.
August 12th, 2017 at 6:32 pm
Lets just concentrate on the 2nd round picks that are working out. Noah Spence is coming along just fine, and hopefully Justin Evans learns how to tackle before preseason is over. He has the potential to be a beast.
GO BUCS!!!!
August 12th, 2017 at 6:36 pm
Aguyo is in the pass now. We all knew he would get the booth if he didn’t perform. I’m just glad that they did have the balls to say screw it now and cut him instead of trying to save face because he was a 2nd round pick.
Carry On. Nothing to see here.
GO BUCS!!!!
August 12th, 2017 at 6:38 pm
Aguayo to Jets? I don’t thnk the scrutiny of the NY media will help his game.He should kick for a year or two in Canada, build his confidence and try again. That being said, even at FSU he couldn’t kick much past 40 yards. If Jets really are trying to tank, maybe he will kick this year. Othrwise, I don’t see him in the NFL.
August 12th, 2017 at 6:38 pm
He has a degree
August 12th, 2017 at 6:38 pm
P.S. I couldn’t stand seeing a kicker waring Keyshawn’s number anyway….
LMAO!!!!!
August 12th, 2017 at 6:48 pm
if he was taken in rounds 4 or 5, he would probably be playing better.
August 12th, 2017 at 7:01 pm
I’m disappointed that Aguayo’s time with the Bucs didn’t work out, but Coach Koetter is sending an important message to a very young team: no matter how high you were drafted, you either do it right or you get eliminated.
August 12th, 2017 at 7:36 pm
I love Aguayo … yet I LOVE that Licht cut him even more … that is the type of cut-throat “win now” mentality that can inspire the entire team to play their best.
Bravo Mr. Licht and Coach K … keep up the good work!
August 12th, 2017 at 7:53 pm
A kicker that can’t kick….what else were they supposed to do.
He’ll yes it was all mental for him, he walked around with a notebook jotting sh!t down before the game as if it was going to do him any good on the sideline.
Kickers are weird, bottom line.
August 12th, 2017 at 7:55 pm
It is still Licht’s fault. Let’s not forget that. I also hate to remind you folks that there is NO GUARANTEE that this Folk guy will be any improvement–he could be worse! The smart thing for the Bucs to do is monitor the waiver wires & bring in a guy who can continue to push Folk throughout the preseason.
August 12th, 2017 at 7:59 pm
So…if no one claims him…do the Bucs put him on the practice squad?
August 12th, 2017 at 8:03 pm
DalvinCookRules Says
“NO GUARANTEE that this Folk guy will be any improvement–he could be worse!”
There is an understatement. If he was any good, Koetter and Licht would not be bringing in another kicker for training camp, which they have already made clear the are.
August 12th, 2017 at 8:18 pm
I was pulling for him but the moment he missed an extra point last night, I thought “Bye Felicia”
Cut the losses
August 12th, 2017 at 8:26 pm
@Bonzai …. “So…if no one claims him…do the Bucs put him on the practice squad?” Interesting question Bonzai. Never thought of that as being a possibility. Of course, if Bucs were going to do that, why did they cut him now? Why not wait until after the 4th preseason game? Oh well, kind of a moot point since some team will surely sign him soon to provide competition for their kicker. Never know, he might win the job.
August 12th, 2017 at 8:27 pm
Sorry he didn’t fix his issues. I would of took him in the 5th round if he was there. Licht’s done more than enough to gain total forgiveness for the reach. The Bucs were more than fair. Go trade a 7th for a good kicking prospect. Hope work your way out of it, Berto.
August 12th, 2017 at 8:52 pm
Bonzai
Get a clue. No way he will be on practice squad. Look at the history of every practice squad ever assembled.
At least now you can follow him if he finds another team, and root for them. Doubtful but dont ever give up. You could be jetbonzai soon. Ill be sad to see u go kiddo. I guess it takes all types n i have to put up with the rubbish if i enjoy the comments. Dont cancel the aguayo fan club because of this hiccup. Now once again. Go Folk, Go Bucs
August 12th, 2017 at 8:53 pm
Another “Mark Dominic” pick!
August 12th, 2017 at 9:04 pm
“The bad Dexter Jackson” ? I thought he was the Bucs Superbowl MVP ? I don’t understand. Was there two different players with the same name?
August 12th, 2017 at 9:11 pm
Yes, wide receiver from app state that gruden took in 2nd round, i believe
August 12th, 2017 at 9:23 pm
Still saddens me about Brian Prices situation.
August 12th, 2017 at 9:28 pm
The pick was only bad because he didn’t work out. Had Roberto been the most accurate kicker in the NFL then Licht would have been called a genius by NFL films 20 years from now. Licht has done a good job and this move just shows he is willing to admit a mistake and move on.
August 12th, 2017 at 9:34 pm
I always forget about the bad Dexter Jackson and immediately want to go on the offensive thinking they’re talking about the SB MVP – but oh year, there was that other Dexter Jackson too…
August 12th, 2017 at 9:43 pm
Roberto will go on to kick somewhere – all former Bucs kickers go on to kick somewhere. You got Kai Forbath, Connor Barth, Matt Bryant, heck even Pat Murray pops up places. The Bucs have a long history of producing kickers that go onto greatness elsewhere including John Carey and Steve Christie.
Best we can hope for is Roberto pulls a Donald Igwebuike. In 1990 Donald was cut for Christie, Iggy signed with the Vikings and the Bucs went there in week 4 and Igwebuike had a chance to win the game at the end and missed. It went to OT and Christie ended up kicking the game winner to go to 3-1 on the season.
So here’s hoping that Roberto gets signed by the Vikings who currently have Kai starting for them.
August 12th, 2017 at 10:03 pm
Bring back Pat Murray. He’s a free agent, gave him compete with Folk.
August 12th, 2017 at 10:14 pm
Usf
Nobodys throwing licht under the bus cuz aguayo sucks. Of course it was a bad pick. It wasnt even the worst pick of the 2nd round of that draft…think hackenburg. Of course lichts done a great job. Bucs are winning that says it all. Go Bucs.
August 12th, 2017 at 10:20 pm
Aguayo should be quickly moving on to the next phase of his life. Kicking in the pros is not what he is cut out for. Grad school is calling.
August 12th, 2017 at 10:24 pm
I think the Jets are happy with Ross Martin. He is the guy I wanted the Bucs to bring to to come in to compete with Barth last year.
August 12th, 2017 at 10:25 pm
Well Roberto and from the looks of it, Ryan Smith – both will get cut this preseason. Fifth rounder Benenoch didn’t have a good night last night, although on that sack of Fitz it sure looked like the DE jumped early – if not he had perfect timing. Bond was the 6th rounder and that was looking like a value but he’s injured again. Oh and we got, as 90% of the people in this place called him, the next Mike Alstott in Dan Vitale… oops.
Anywho that draft is all going to be about VH3 and Spence, if they turn into what we hope then that will make it an OK draft. If Bond comes back later this season and does indeed start and Spence comes gets the double digit sacks we think he can, if you get 3 starters then it’s a pretty decent draft.
Also if Roberto played any other position on the team other than kicker he’d just be on the team as depth – it’s not like the kid can’t kick and apparently he was outkicking Folk in practice, there is just something wrong with him, something that will probably get fixed when he gets to a new team.
Also the special teams coach, from the terribly boring speech he was giving on Hard Knocks, maybe Roberto was tanking his play to get off the team to get away from those cliche ridden speeches the special teams coach was given – although he was better than the offensive coach saying “winner winner chicken dinner”, that guy is a huge d-bag.
August 12th, 2017 at 10:46 pm
I could see them bringing back P. Murray. Dan Carpenter and Josh Brown are available. All the good college kids are in a camp. Not a good time to add a quality leg for the rest of camp.
August 12th, 2017 at 10:47 pm
The NFL is a business. Hell I’m supposedly the blog “snowflake” and I do believe I have compassion for the less fortunate among us. But feel sorry for Roberto?
Nah.
I’m neither happy nor sad tonight. It is what it is…so I just checked at two sites with contract details…Roberto had 878,000 guaranteed for last year and this year.
He would have made a little over 200,000 more if he had stuck. Don’t know about his signing bonus or if that’s what they mean by guaranteed money.
Bottom line is that Roberto has made more than 3/4 of a million dollars in less than two years for playing a freaking game. How many FSU grads have made that kind of jack in the past year and a half?
If he has any financial ability whatsover…he is set for life. BOO HOO.
Again I’m sure it’s painful to fail so publicly…I feel for his embarrassment.
But I gotta say guys…if someone offered me 878,000 for a year and a half…I believe I could stand a bunch of bloggers calling me all manner of names.
Good luck Roberto…find a great financial advisor and it’s all good!!!
August 12th, 2017 at 10:56 pm
@glassman… p murray plays for the saints
August 12th, 2017 at 11:01 pm
@mike n… p murray was cut earlier today
August 12th, 2017 at 11:28 pm
@st Pete
I find the people who use the term snowflake towards others, usually end up being the biggest snowflakes of them all. 😉
When he missed the PAT I thought he had 1 more chance to kick, and that he would have to make it regardless of the distance. 47 yards isn’t a chip shot, but most kickers can hit that pretty easily. When he missed that too, I knew it was over.
Outside of agauyo, the RBs, and the WRs, it’s hard to get much of an evaluation on the rest of the guys since they’re not gameplanning and doing vanilla formations / schemes for preseason game 1.
August 13th, 2017 at 8:02 am
darin Says
“Get a clue.”
Apparently, some people are rude for the sake of being rude. I asked a simple, valid question which was not directed at you, and here you are ready to chase me off.
Here’s an idea…grow up.
August 13th, 2017 at 8:09 am
Those who know me around here understand I root for the underdog, but once a decision is made I move on.
Aguayo is gone, so I’m moving on.
I was just curious as to whether the Bucs WOULD sign him to the practice squad or not, seeing as he qualifies. I wasn’t even saying I would want them to sign him.
But then I thought about it, and I’m not even sure there actually are practice squads yet. Don’t they come after cuts?
And for the record, I have been a Bucs fan from the start. That ain’t changing. Sure, if they signed Colin or something, I would protest in the form of a boycott of some sort, but I would still be ONLY a Bucs fan.
August 13th, 2017 at 8:31 am
Bucs will probably sign another kicker today (Sunday). Maybe Monday.
Folk is not a good option.
August 13th, 2017 at 9:48 am
@Bonzai: what you are suggesting about Aguayo being signed to the practice squad is certainly plausible. After learning about Aguayo’s release, I originally thought that the Bucs might give him a year off (assuming that he is not signed anywhere) to get his mind/technique right and re-sign him a team-friendly deal to compete in training camp next year. Still, doing either what you or I am suggesting might, in the minds of the front office, compound the perception that Licht made a disastrous decision that hurt the team. Every media outlet that reports on this story reminds readers/viewers that the Bucs traded up in the 2nd round to get Aguayo. Jenna Laine on ESPN even listed all the players that were available at that selection in the draft. I think that the front office just wants everyone to forget about this and move on.
August 13th, 2017 at 10:36 am
2nd time around is always better. Roberto has options. I beleive he got his college degree? So he can always get out here with the rest of us and slave the 8-4 job. If he gets that 2nd shot, he might do better. The big lights in Fl where he went to college were a bit much for him. I wish the kid well. You never know. He just could be a..Wake up and smell the Coffee type guy with another team.
August 13th, 2017 at 12:07 pm
Bonzai
Yes some of us are aware everyone on here is a bucs fan. We wouldnt come here if not. Of course we all have different levels of football intelligence and differing views on how things should be done. Keep all that in mind when you throw out comments. Me rooting for aguayo missing the other night was indeed me rooting for the bucs. He just cant handle the pressure, yet. Maybe he can eventually. I didnt want him making a few preseason kicks n winning the job just to crap his panties in the season opener. Not sure why u think folk is no good but hey we all have an opinion. He is 1 for 1 so far. If someone else wins the job so be it. Only thing me, or most people on here want, is for the bucs to win em all. So lets go folk and lets go bucs. Kickers will definitely never be part of practice squads in my opinion. Especially aguayo. They dont wont any more questions about him at one buc. Yes the practice squads come out after cuts, and once everyone clears waivers.
August 13th, 2017 at 12:22 pm
Bucsfan305 is right on the money, concentrate on the 2nd rounders and other picks that do work out, i for one don’t really care where he signs or if he is a success there. Good luck Nick Folk, i hope you have a long successful career and kick all your game winners for the BUCS.
August 13th, 2017 at 12:24 pm
And I dont believe aguayo is eligible for the practice squad anyway, per league rules. Not sure but dont thjnk so. Sometimes u just gota admit ur mistake n move on tho. Im sure Licbt n Koetter would love to just forget the whole thing right about now. Me too actually. It feels like saying kicker??? Kicker??? in Jim Moras Playoffssss??? voice. Koetter said it best. A kicker has to make the kicks. Big mistake that licht learns from. Weve all made em. Go Bucs
August 13th, 2017 at 1:08 pm
@darin: Love the Jim Mora voice! You might be right about the practice squad, and you are certainly right about Licht wanting to move on from the whole Aguayo saga. He only has to be concerned about what the Glazers think. I am sure that Licht has their full confidence, but he knows that the margin for error is very small.
August 13th, 2017 at 1:36 pm
darin Says
“Me rooting for aguayo missing the other night was indeed me rooting for the bucs.”
Ahhhh, now that explains your aggression. Because I made the comment that you were not a true Bucs fan because you wanted him to miss.
I was right, you know. When you put the desire to have a player off the team ahead of scoring points, which may have had a positive effect on the team and a negative on the other team, then you are rooting against the team as much as you are rooting against the player.
Making you a non-Bucs-fan. See how that works? You rooted against the team scoring.
Want to know something else? I had forgotten about that. That’s how little it meant to me. But you? It is still bothering you today because the bottom line is the truth hurts.
August 13th, 2017 at 1:37 pm
If a player is waived, I believe he is eligible. Otherwise the player is simply cut.
I could be wrong though.
August 13th, 2017 at 4:10 pm
Bucs sign kicker Zach Hocker
August 14th, 2017 at 7:39 am
Lol. Ok kiddo. Guess theres no learning in ur head. I helped build the new stadium in more ways than one, yet im no bucs fan says booozer. Aguayos gone, get over it. N anyone whos on the active roster 6 games or more the previous year is ineligible for the practice squad. Ok youre now invisible. Go Bucs