Chucky Still Has The Juice

August 2nd, 2017

“We.”

Joe is just about convinced Chucky will never coach again.

Oh, sure, he sings a great song about how he is preparing and he loves the grind, yada, yada, yada. Chucky has had his pick of the litter of programs to coach, both NFL and college, and has turned each down. It is now nearly 10 years after that ugly January Friday afternoon when Chucky was jettisoned by the Bucs.

The team has never fully recovered from that decision. And in many ways, neither has Chucky. But today, when reminiscing about the lone Super Bowl won by the Buccaneers, the greatest coach in Bucs history visible (and audibly) got fired up.

In today’s press conference to officially name franchise patriarch Malcolm Glazer and Chucky as the next members of the Ring of Honor, Chucky, in a question-and-answer session, had the juice flowing when asked about preparing for that Super Bowl in San Diego against the Oakland Raiders.

With Derrick Brooks, among many other former Bucs greats in attendance, Chucky recounted the time he threw a touchdown against the vaunted Bucs defense in practice as the team prepared for dangerous Raiders quarterback Rich Gannon.

“I was Rich Gannon. I was ripping you guys, Brooks,” Chucky hollered. “If I was starting for the Raiders, it might have been different.”

It was also cool that Chucky always referred to the Bucs as “We.” After a short speech, Chucky said, “Let me put my visor on so I feel more comfortable,” as he donned a Bucs golf visor before answering questions.

In a video tribute to Malcolm Glazer, Ronde Barber said that Glazer “Saved the franchise.”

Indeed.

70 Responses to “Chucky Still Has The Juice”

  1. Nole on Sat- Bucc on Sun Says:

    #Buc Dynasty.. In the making.

  2. Vincente Says:

    Coach Gruden you have a spot in Tampa forever. Thank you coach and thank you Malcolm Glazier for what you did for our buccaneers!

  3. Tom Edrington Says:

    Agree with Joe, Chucky ain’t coming back, no upside, a lot of downside.

  4. kh Says:

    If Manziel, Dalvin Cook and others have taught us anything its that if Joe is predicting Gruden will never coach again, we can all expect him on the sidelines next season in the NFL.

    Go read the fascinating interview Gruden did recently with another website, he will be back coaching again soon and even said he came close to accepting jobs in the recent past. He’s just waiting on the ideal NFL situation to open up for him, he will accept a college job.

  5. D-Rome Says:

    Agree with Joe and Mr. Edrington. He has one of the best jobs in the world. Why would he give that up to coach? Any coaching situation out there is going to be a future firing. Unless you’re an all time great coach you’re hired to be fired.

  6. kh Says:

    he will *not* accept a college job due to the restrictions on timing.

  7. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Jon ain’t no dummy, an attention whore, but no dummy. He got luck with a 37 y/o qb in Oak, got lucky in being traded to a SB contending defense, tinkered enough to get the 20 points a game Sapp had been begging for, and then it all fell out from under him because of his ego. If he comes back and doesn’t have success his legacy takes a huge hit. But he will always be an icon here and maybe Dirk wins multiple SB’s? It’s awesome but you never forget your first. And Mr Glazer was there to see it. GO BUCS!!!

  8. RayJameisStadium Says:

    Malcolm allowed us to experience the ultimate experience— Winning the Super Bowl!!!! Nobody can take that away from us. Nobody!!!

    It took major courage to acquire the missing link – Gruden! Malcolm is the Original Stick Carrier!!!

    The Glazer Brothers will make Malcolm proud this year!!!

    Go Bucs!!!

  9. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    ……..that burning question always remains with buc’s fans…..

    “Where would the bucs franchise be today if the bucs would’ve never fired chucky?”

  10. RayJameisStadium Says:

    BTW Joe

    The HBO network has been breached. I think BillyCheat is already preparing for our Super Bowl match. He will try to get every footage of Hard Knocks!!!!

    http://ew.com/tv/2017/07/31/hbo-hacked-game-of-thrones/

  11. RayJameisStadium Says:

    @BucsAnthem…. probably without Winston, Koetter and Licht!!!!! Nightmare!!!!

    I don’t regret the past. It got us here today. I wouldn’t change a thing!!!!!!

    We are about to go after our 2nd Lombardi!!!!

  12. Nole on Sat- Bucc on Sun Says:

    To be fair Kh I started that Dalvin Cook train, not Joe.

  13. Howard Cosell Says:

    Howard still remembers the awful beating Gruden took from trolls, haters and media types (led by the unmentionable one at the local AM powerhouse).
    Nothing but local hate for Gruden 2005-2008. Glad that he’s risen above it.

    Ah well, hindsight is 20/20 unless you’re Howard Cosell or the realist,
    then foresight is 20/20

  14. Evolvingbucfan Says:

    Those days were the most magical time to be a Bucs fan back then, it was amazing and the team had this chemistry and electricity. We’ve been looking for that to fill our void of it since then, as we would constantly compare the new players. We can definitely feel that now and it’s building, the attitude of TEAM and wanting to win and the energy. very exciting times my friends and Joe’s!!!!!

    I CAN’T FREAKIN WAIT!!!!!!!

  15. Syl Says:

    Those were Dungy players. Chucky wrecked the Bucs.

  16. Phil Says:

    Chucky walks on water. One of the greatest of all time in Tampa.

  17. America's Commenter Says:

    I still wonder what things would have been like if:

    A) Lane Kiffin had not gotten the Tennessee job and Monte didn’t lose his mojo.

    B) Chucky had Raheem as the defensive coordinator in 2009 and beyond.

  18. JimmyJack Says:

    So thankful we got Gruden to put us over the hump.

    But as soon as they dumped McKay and let Bruce Allen take over we started sinking in quicksand. Gruden sank the franchise IMO.

    Would I trade away 15 years of bad embarrassing football………..Yes, yes I would!!

  19. JimmyJack Says:

    Trade it for a title that is.

  20. kh Says:

    Fair comment NOS.

    Agree Howard Cossell, the campaigns by Tribune/WDAE types against Gruden are unforgivable. Mostly it was born out of the fact that their friends/sources on the team all hated Gruden but as Gruden said in his recent interview, he wasn’t trying to be friends with players, just wanted to win. Funny how we’d all trade 9-7 seasons for the crap of the past. To me, a lot of the blame for the post-Gruden era falls on the medias shoulders.

  21. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Tom Edrington Says
    “Agree with Joe, Chucky ain’t coming back, no upside, a lot of downside.”

    Anything is possible. The Glazers would not be able to give him the control he would want though, because Licht has earned the control.

    BUT…if Koetter doesn’t get deep into the playoffs within a couple years…and if Gruden can be satisfied with having the best offense in the NFL…then…anything can happen.

  22. LUVMYBUCS Says:


    “Oh, sure, he sings a great song about how he is preparing and he loves the grind, yada, yada, yada. Chucky has had his pick of the litter of programs to coach, both NFL and college, and has turned each down.”

    He’s a BUC 4 Life. Plain n’ Simple.

  23. Pickgrin Says:

    Gruden risks a lot if he comes back. Trading 20 hour work weeks 6 months of the year for 90 hour work weeks 11 months of the year – with similar compensation. That’s a tough pill to swallow.

    Plus he already gets rock star treatment pretty much everywhere he goes. It is hard to be successful in the NFL and if things don’t go well were Jon to take another HC job – it would be a major hit to his prestige and how he is looked up to by most everyone that likes football.

    No more working with the top young QBs coming out. No more hanging out with Hooters girls on the reg.

    Have to move somewhere else for a good part of the year – probably a cold somewhere else… And probably pay state taxes somewhere else as well

    Lots of potential pitfalls to accepting another NFL HC job for someone in Chucky’s position.

    If Jon were to abstain from any more coaching and his broadcasting career continued as successfully as it has to this point – then Jon Gruden likely gets in the HOF one day. If he comes back to coaching and is not successful – that reduces his HOF chances considerably IMO.

  24. Rod Munch Says:

    I’m convinced only the late 90s / early 00s bandwagon riders actually realize what Gruden did to destroy this team. This is a guy that cut Lynch and let Sapp walk in order to sign Charlie Garner and some mid-30s offensive linemen so he could prove that no, it wasn’t Dungy’s team that won the Super Bowl it was his genius. It’s pretty disgraceful that the Bucs put Gruden into the team ROH before Dungy, but maybe it’s more like a concert, where the warm-up band gets on stage before the closer.

  25. kh Says:

    Sigh. Anyone still arguing that it was Dungy’s team that won the SB needs their head examined and definitely shouldn’t be casting aspersions on . Watch the NFL films year in review, both Sapp and Lynch said in no uncertain terms that the Bucs would not have won a superbowl if Dungy stayed and they won because of Gruden. He turned over half the roster for god sakes.

    Garner and Steussie didn’t work out but it worked out with Joe J. McCardell, Dilger, Dudley, Kerry Jenkins and many others. Plus we had lost most of our picks and didn’t have tons of other options. Remind me what Sapp did after he left and went to Oakland? Dungy is a nice man and helped turn this around (with mostly Wyche players as cornerstones incidentally) but he doesn’t deserve ROF honors over Gruden.

    Also – read the PR article, Gruden says he was against a lot of McKay’s moves but he didn’t have the juice with the Glazers to go against him on personnel.

  26. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    I will say this Joe. The gauntlet has been dropped.

    Per Gruden:

    “I’m excited by the players Now.” I wish I could’ve coached some of these guys.

  27. mike n Says:

    @SYL… Chucky added 25 players the 1st offseason , so about 50% were not Dungy’s players. Also. guys like lynch, sapp, brooks, were from the Sam Wyche era. Gruden came in at the closing of the window bc we were close to salary cap hell. If Dungy could have given us an offense that was even below average, we would of had multiple super bowls. The idea that he won with Dungy’s players is idiotic. He did what Dungy proved Dungy couldn’t do.
    Thank you GRUDEN for making us champs!!!!!!!!

  28. mike n Says:

    @rod…. give me a breaK. We had no cap room by 04. Sapp had to go and never did a thing. Yes rod, it’s exactly like a concert… the opening act (dungy) got the culture changed and warmed things up. The the star got on stage and gave us the ring.

  29. Rod Munch Says:

    LOL! You Dungy hating dolts need to get back to your klan rally – that cross isn’t going to burn itself.

  30. Joseph Mamma Says:

    Chucky has had the pick of the litter for NFL jobs? That’s a stretch. There was some speculation that the Glazer’s reached out to him to come back but other than that dream job what has been offered to him?

  31. Rod Munch Says:

    Yeah Mike, all Sapp did was go to Oakland and playing out of position as a DE in a 3-4 put up a double digit sack year. I mean he’s a first ballot HOF’er and a guy who every player at his position is judged against, but to you he never did anything. What a dope.

  32. Rod Munch Says:

    Joseph – Gruden modelled himself after Madden, it’s really that simple. He was at the time the youngest coach to win a SB, just like Madden was, then he went to the TV booth where he stayed forever. Gruden is all about himself, putting himself on TV, making sure he has his face front and center. Gruden isn’t going back to the sidelines so long as he can sit in the TV booth and have his face nationwide each week. Personally I like Gruden on TV, other than when he says every player is great and wonderful, that’s annoying, but he brings good energy generally.

  33. mike n Says:

    @Rod… yes Rod … Sapp is one of the best D lineman ever but his last four year, he wasn’t as good and was one of the highest paid. He put up 2 sacks in 2 of his 4 years there and we had no money to pay him. We also commited to boger. Sapp was awesome and I didn’t want him to go but Rich Mckay gave away big contract in the late 90’s and we were screwed. Gruden spent his last 5 years in tampa making chicken salad out of chick stuff.

  34. Syl Says:

    @Mike n Who did he bring in that changed the club because the core was already there? He ran poor Cadillac into the ground. He is a mediocre coach.

  35. JimmyJack Says:

    Sapp was a let down in Oakland. Don’t effing kid yourself

  36. JimmyJack Says:

    And Sapp was never all that in stopping the run game. He should/coulda went to a better team and fit. But Raiders paid more.

  37. Rod Munch Says:

    Mike – LOL! That’s some revisionist history there. Gruden didn’t want Sapp back because Sapp took the spotlight away from Gruden. It’s the same reason he didn’t want Lynch back. Anyone that talked or had a higher profile than him was out. Brooks and Barber were both quiet guys so they got to stick around. Gruden, while he was sooo screwed by the cap space we had, he managed to give $5-million to Charlie Garner and $5-mil to some mid-30s offensive linemen. Those contracts McKay gave out were to players who were really good and they needed to have stick around. Has any time had as many HOF players on one side of the ball in the salary cap era as the Bucs had? You had Sapp, Brooks, Lynch, Barber, they signed Rice – plus they still had guys like Brian Kelly who is vastly underrated, you even had guys like Marcus Jones with 13-sacks. Going back before that you had Hardy, Donnie Abraham, Chidi Ahanotu and more. On offense you had Dunn, Alstott, Keyshawn and whatever offensive linemen that weren’t terrible that needed money. Yeah McKay couldn’t keep them all but did an amazing job keeping as many as he did and choosing the right guys. Gruden meanwhile spent his money on Charlie Garner, Derrick Deese, Todd Steussie, Tim Brown, etc, to mix with awful drafting. The Gruden worshippers I’m convinced had no history before 1997 or so and don’t realize in the least what Dungy did that was so amazing here. It’s like when the Joe’s are talking to Ira on the podcast and Ira laughs off their Dungy hating. There’s a reason Dungy is in the HOF and there is a reason Gruden will never have his name mentioned in that discussion.

  38. The Buc Realist Says:

    Jimmy Joke is closer to the truth of it!!!!! he had 1 good year and 3 not so good years out there!!!!!!! What is surprising that no one talks about is how Kiffen and Sapp did not get along!!! and that was one of the main reason why Sapp was not resigned!!!!!!

    And Rich mckay always got way to much credit!!! after some front office personal left, he bombed!!!!! He left the Bucs in a bad position when he went to Atlanta, But at least he did the same thing to Atlanta by making bad decision after bad decision!!!!!! Boy I sure miss the Mckay/mora jr falcons!!!!!!!

    The Truth shall be told!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  39. JimmyJack Says:

    Gruden was a fine coach. But he was awful with personal decisions. That’s why he was successful in Oak where Al Davis made those decisions. It’s why Gruden won a SB here because a Championship core was in place. And it’s why this team plummeted as soon as Gruden convinced the Glazer’s to run out McKay.

  40. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Per Sapp: The Reason he left the Bucs.

    So who was responsible for you having to leave the Bucs?

    “It was all of them, but Monte (Kiffin) led the charge. He said, “We can do it without him.” Me and Monte had the rockiest relationship”

  41. mike n Says:

    @syl… he brought in 25 new players, but yeah the core was from the wyche era, sapp, brooks, lynch , donnie, ect…6 new starters on offense with pittman, kerry jenkins, roman oben, joe j and keanan, and the te postion (dudley/dilger). Thats over half the offense not to mention the effect he had on our qb brad johnson.
    Ran caddy into the ground???? Caddy never had more than 300 carries and averaged 17 carries his rookie year and 14 carries his 2nd year. Then blew out his knee in year 3. I was at that game, it was a horrific hit. Dungy was great, Gruden took em to the promise land. Both 2 of the best coaches the nfl has seen. Sad we had to put up with what we had 2009 to 2016

  42. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Jon Gruden mic’d up for your viewing pleasure…….Luv Chucky!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GghSvAPjSaY

  43. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Sam Wyche (Players)
    • LDE Chidi Ahanotu
    • LDT Brad Culpepper
    • RDT Warren Sapp
    • MLB Hardy Nickerson
    • RLB Derrick Brooks
    • SS John Lynch

  44. JimmyJack Says:

    Yeah but Realist. It’s hard to say what the exact authority McKay had in At. For example, was Mike Vick a McKay guy? It’s hard to put a ton of blame on McKay in ATL without knowing how much decision authority he had.

    He could have had all the power like he or Licht had/have in Tampa(we all should know the Glazer’s stay out of personal decisions). Or he could have been a desk guy that’s called a GM like GMs that work for Jerry Jones and Schnider.

  45. OneBucPerson Says:

    I honestly think the only situation where Coach Gruden returns to the sideline is if, besides being a coach/GM a la BB and Andy Reid, he has a franchise QB with some good talent around him (a solid defense would be icing on the cake). I’m gonna make a REALLY bold prediction and say Chucky will become the next HC of the Cincinnati Bengals. My rationale for this being that the Bengals have an above average QB in Andy Dalton (who knows and performed well in the West Coast that Chucky uses from when Jay Gruden was his OC), some very solid weapons in Green, LaFell, Eifert, and Ross, a 3 headed monster at RB in Bernard/Hill/Mixon, and an above average defense. I really think Marvin Lewis is in a make it or break it year to not only make it to the playoffs but to finally get his first playoff win, if he doesn’t make or if he does and brings his postseason record to 0-8 then I think it’ll be a wrap for his career.

  46. mike n Says:

    @luvmybuc yep. Gruden gets blamed for a lot of personel decisons but kiffin carried a lot of weight and mckay made most calls. Kifin makes the gaines adams call too when Gruden want to trade up for Calvin. Mckay takes marquis walker when gruden want brian westbrook… ugh

  47. stpetebucsfan Says:

    The team has never fully recovered from that decision.

    Joe

    I rarely disagree with you. Last time was on Johnny what’s his name at QB.

    But this time I simply do not agree. Gruden was a LOSING coach in Tampa Bay after that glorious SB. I give him total props for that Lombardi! But his record in the six years after the SB was 45-51 six games UNDER .500!!! Nobody greased the skids for him. He greased them himself as Jimmy Jack just pointed out due to horrid personnel decisions.

    I think an argument could be made that once we drafted #3 and then signed DK we HAD indeed recovered. But certainly this franchise has NEVER looked any better than it does right now.

    Licht blows Bruce Allen/Mark Dominik’s doors off as GM.

    Koetter has a chance to put up better than six games under .500 in the next six years.

    And #3! That says it all! When has this franchise ever had a QB of this talent?

    This franchise is totally over Chucky which is why now is a great time to honor him for that SB. That horrible run of sub .500 after the SB is now well in the rear view mirror.

    We have totally recovered! Chucky certainly deserves his props and recognition in the ring. But let’s not rewrite post SB history.

  48. The Buc Realist Says:

    @jimmy joke

    his last couple of years were very bad in Tampa, And some of the players even called him ” Big Pay Day Mckay”!!!!!!!!

    McKay ran the 2004 to 2007 draft then realized he was running the team into the ground!!!!! ( his free agents were terrible) they demoted him And gave full personal control over to Thomas Dimitroff

  49. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    @mike n

    Yep. But silly revisionist will say anything to fit their narrative.

  50. 1Gr8Buc Says:

    Joe,

    I know you were looking out for the d!ck head on 620 when you were asked to leave, but he has completely disrespected you guys live on air. No use for that P.O.S.

  51. JimmyJack Says:

    Come on Mike. Everybody and their brother knows that once Bruce Allen was hired here Gruden was the one calling the shots. It’s unfair to blame Kiffin because Allen and Gruden felt obligated to replace some lost talent on his side of the ball and draft Gaines Adams.

    Suprized was the true expression Kiffin had when he first learned of the selection. Gruden botched so many personal decisions that it’s sad. The man refused to draft a QB and passed up on some good to great ones. Does Kiffen of McKay take that blame?

  52. JimmyJack Says:

    Yeah Realist. Maybe it’s no coincidence that McKays decisions went downhill once Dungy left? He did quite well when he was working with Tony.

  53. JimmyJack Says:

    I’ll go on record to say it. No Buccaneer team in history has had a worserr choke job then 03′ Bucs. And that was good old boy Jon Gruden himself leading that charge.

    And I called him old not ole so don’t give me a hard time taters.

  54. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    JimmyJack

    BS – Gruden was begging for Adrian Peterson – for his rocket backfield.
    Kiffin pushed for Gaines Adams (R.I.P) After a glowing endorsement from Rod Marinelli. There’s was an actually post draft video – with Gru talking about it.

  55. Bernie K Says:

    duemig is dogging on joe today saying joe never got calls, wtf joe
    Joe didn’t hear it, so Joe really can’t verify any of this. Inaccurate anyway — and stupid. Calls weren’t meant to be part of the hour.–Joe

  56. The Buc Realist Says:

    @jimmy joke

    I am talking about other office personal that went on to be GM’s else where!!!!!!!!!! The drafts were going down hill way before dungy left!!!!!!!

  57. Keir Says:

    all of you faceless haters are just trolls. The worst kind of people in this world IMO, you cant even be happy that we won something. Gruden did so much for this team and its fans and it wasnt going to happen under Dungy because he was too set in his ways. I wouldn’t trade the Dungy years either, great coach and person and he got the team on track along with McKay. If you had to put your name, face and address with these, your posts would be a lot tamer, I guarantee that.

    “A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.”

    Go Bucs!!! Hail the Stick Carriers!!!!!

  58. JimmyJack Says:

    Well I think if you look at the pre-Dungy and post-Dungy drafts you can see a vast difference in quality decisions. Actually I know you can.

    My point is the team assembled with Gruden did a crappy job. Sure,McKay has to take some blame. But the difference between the two eras so so bad enough it leaves plenty of blame to go around. Not all McKay. Not by a longshot

  59. JimmyJack Says:

    It’s not BS dude. Kiffin was completely surprised when they picked Adams. Gruden and Allen made that pick. Not Kiffin.

  60. The Buc Realist Says:

    @jimmy joke

    actually, Its the Sam Wyche drafts that had all the hall of Famer’s in it!!!!!!

  61. JimmyJack Says:

    If I recall correctly the post draft interview Kiffin gave was from Tampa. He wasn’t even in the warroom

  62. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Note: If Gruden would’ve ran the team

    • He would’ve drafted Adrian Peterson (Rocket Backfield)
    • He would’ve traded for Jared Allen
    • He would’ve traded for Brett Favre

    Thanks For the Championship Gru!
    Best Buccaneer Coach of All-Time; bar none!

  63. JimmyJack Says:

    Yeah Realist. But because McKay didn’t draft HOF doesn’t mean he only had bad drafts. His drafts with Dungy we’re good. When he drafted with Gruden they were awful.

    Not to mention that he made some great free agent singnings that played a pivotal part in our title.

  64. The Buc Realist Says:

    I think many do not realize how much the Buc’s were running on a shoe-string budget the last 3 years of the Gruden Era!!!! And that really includes the Front office and scouts!!!!!! The Fact that Head Coach Gruden was still having success was simply amazing !!!!!!!!!!! And as soon as he was let go, The Bucs crumbled!!!!!!!!!

    Also, with Dominik moving higher and higher into the Bucs Organization, the worst the personal decision were!!!!!!!!

  65. JimmyJack Says:

    LUV. I think Gruden had a bit more say in the drafts then you talk about. To a man he was parte of the some of the worst drafts this franchise has seen

  66. JimmyJack Says:

    Sorry Realist. Gruden pioneered the worst choke in franchise history in 03′. He then went on to a losing record with no playoff victories and piles of horrible draft classes. When he left we are devoid of talent.

    He was not good enough to rebuild the team and was not as successful as you give credit for.

  67. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    “I’m a football coach. I want to win games. Obviously, you want to take what you think your football team needs. At the same time, we have to take a good look at who we think is the best football player on the board. We took Carnell Williams two years ago, I would have loved to have a rocket backfield with Adrian Peterson & Cadillac Williams, no question about it.

    Per: Gruden

    Per Gruden: Monte’s reaction to the selection of Adams
    “Monte is jumping through the ceiling right now. He said we haven’t drafted a defensive player since 1974 or 1986 or something like that. I said.’ We haven’t had a lot of number one picks around here, Monte, in the last seven or eight years.

    Per: Ronde Barber

    Defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin is determined to get more quarterback sacks and pressures in …. “It was great to see us get Gaines Adams,” Barber said.

  68. The Buc Realist Says:

    @jimmy jack

    they were, in the beginning, then Angelo and other started getting GM jobs and it went down hill!!!! The Bucs had stopped finding talent in the draft and were buying free agents and trading draft picks like drunken sailors

  69. JimmyJack Says:

    Yeah we didn’t have anybody that knew how to surround the franchise with quality management to make good football decisions. We then went on to make all bad decisions.

    McKay can easily be blamed for this but seemed to me that Gruden was given more power to have an influence in decisions. McKay was pushed out and Gruden hired his yesman Bruce Allen.

    Gruden has no track record of building a team to speak of. He didn’t call any shots in Oak except on the sidelines. The Glazer’s gave Gruden the control and found out the hard way he was not good in personal and management decisions.

  70. unbelievable Says:

    Syl Says:
    August 2nd, 2017 at 3:01 pm
    Those were Dungy players. Chucky wrecked the Bucs.

    Phil Says:
    August 2nd, 2017 at 3:01 pm
    Chucky walks on water. One of the greatest of all time in Tampa.

    ____________________________________________________________

    LOL. Bucs fans.