Cameron Erving A Fit?
August 29th, 2017
Bucs GM Jason Licht
Now it’s time for general manager Jason Licht’s personnel team to make a quick, educated decision.
Licht’s trusted unit has belted powerful home runs recently, including the early returns on the thievery of rookies Chris Godwin and Kendell Beckwith in the third round of the NFL Draft.
So what’s next?
Fresh reports are out today claiming the Cleveland Browns are continuing their endless fire sale and are ready to trade center/tackle Cameron Erving, a 2015 first-round pick out of Florida State University.
Erving wasn’t a fit at center for Cleveland and had transitioned to right tackle where he’s competing for a starting gig but just suffered a calf injury, per Cleveland.com.
Of course, with all the college film the Bucs watched on America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, they certainly have strong opinions on Erving’s talent. Plus, the Bucs had two joint practices with the Browns last summer, and they’ve seen them in the preseason three times since Erving was drafted.
Erving comes cheap at less than $2 million this year and next. And Joe suspects the Browns won’t demand much in a trade. The former defensive lineman who turned 25 last week could be a very interesting prospect for a seasoned coach like Bucs’ fourth-year O-line chief George Warhop.
Joe isn’t lobbying for Erving or offering an opinion on how he compares to Demar Dotson, Leonard Wester or Caleb Benenoch. Joe’s just curious to see whether the Bucs desire to sniff out the Browns on this.
August 29th, 2017 at 12:09 pm
Browns also think a lot of their line and consider it to be a deep group. He was a boss esp at center when playing with Jameis but certainly help his own at tackle. Would love to see the Bucs make a move for him, esp in the event of an injured tackle and Pamphile taking the spot of em and the Bucs having the option of Marpet possibly moving back to guard
August 29th, 2017 at 12:13 pm
I was thinking the same thing for Joe Hayden
August 29th, 2017 at 12:16 pm
Yes – absolutely make this move! Erving protecting for Winston again – yeah that might put a smile on the big guys face.
August 29th, 2017 at 12:16 pm
He’s a better physical specimen than Wesker.
August 29th, 2017 at 12:22 pm
He’s been absolutely terrible for the Browns. I know, he’s FSU , but nothing but terrible no matter where he’s lined up for them. Nice guy, bad NFL lineman, but go ahead, everyone is great from FSU, well, except one soon to be unemployed kicker.
August 29th, 2017 at 12:28 pm
PASS ON THIS GUY….while in college, he was getting smoked at LT so they tried him at RT….that failed as well so they moved him to center were he played ok against ACC competition….nfl scouts were drooling over his measurable….it will take a lot to get it all out of him….
just stay the course, develop the talent you have on the roster and build thru the draft….
regarding joe haden…as much as im a UF homer, I say pass as well….looks like he’s going thru the same thing verner went thru regarding his technique and confidence….develop ryan smith and build thru the draft….GO BUCS!!!!
August 29th, 2017 at 12:28 pm
Not an FSU fan but the bucs need help in several areas and OL is one of them and competition is always good, and if suh eats up marpet and sweezy is a floppy hater all fall, center and guard arrive
August 29th, 2017 at 12:39 pm
Browns line stopped Bucs pass rush. I know, not saying much. Sign eem up.
August 29th, 2017 at 12:44 pm
seems like he could be had for cheap. joe hayden contract is too high imo. joe do you know where the bucs are on the waiver wire in case erving is released ?
August 29th, 2017 at 12:45 pm
Pass. We don’t need him at all.
August 29th, 2017 at 12:59 pm
LOL…seems like every time an ex team mate of Winston is released, waived or in trade rumors people(mostly joe) love to jump all over it….
remember….
karlos Williams….
nick oleary….
rashad greene has been mentioned….
we have bobo Wilson(I think)lol….
Winston made a lot of those guys better than they actually were…..and he’s continuing to do that with guys like Humphries and Brate….GO BUCS!!!!
August 29th, 2017 at 1:00 pm
My lifelong dream as a Buc’s fan is for us to have 4 or 5 centers…..sign him immediately!!!
August 29th, 2017 at 1:02 pm
813- Every Seminole that is brought up on this board, you immediately slam.- he was sooooooo bad in college that he was picked 19th overall by one of the worst organizations in football that has zero track record in developing talent. To everyone on this board that is not a Nole or Gator, this is the difference between the 2 schools. When a Gator becomes a Buc or is talked about in the draft, the Nole fans support him- pretty much no matter what. When a Nole is talked about, Gator fans can’t let go of their “Gator allegiance” even for the betterment of the Bucs. He is better than anyone we have on that second line and has more potential as well and better than that, we can probably get him on the cheap. Seminoles, Gators and Hurricanes are some of the best athletes and college football players in the country. I’ll take any of them that were good enough to start on these teams-get over it buddy- everything cycles for these 3 schools. Gators suck now- they will dominate in the future, then the Canes, then the Noles again. As far as ACC goes are you f-ing kidding me? You’re 10 years too late on that argument. Take out Alabama and what do you have? The Gators? LOL. In all seriousness best of luck to the Canes and gators this year until you play my Seminoles (FSU Class of ’94).
As far as Haden goes, absolutely take him- he is still young and Grimes isn’t getting any younger. Don’t lose sight of the organization failures he has dealt with. Constant losing will do some crazy things to a player. But don’t give up too much for either one of these guys. We cannot mortgage the future.
Go Bucs- get every Seminole/Gator/Cane you can on this roster and let Koetter and Warhop and Monken and Smith and the rest of our coaches bring out their natural ability to play at this level.
August 29th, 2017 at 1:03 pm
Get all the talent you can including Hayden.
August 29th, 2017 at 1:18 pm
He’s a downgrade from Dotson, no thanks
August 29th, 2017 at 1:21 pm
Its all about the best five.
If Dotson is injured and this guy is either better than Pamphile at RT or Evan smith at LG then bring him in.
I’m worried that Pamphile sliding to RT exposes us at LG. Sorry but I don’t have any faith in Evan Smith.
August 29th, 2017 at 1:50 pm
May be worth trading a 4th round pick to get a look at him.
August 29th, 2017 at 1:52 pm
Hayden with a horrible contract. I think over 10 million a year and a lot of injury history.
August 29th, 2017 at 2:09 pm
Joe – Looks like Denver is making TJ Ward available. I’m not on the Conte hate train, but if a Pro Bowl type safety can be added for a reasonable exchange, then that would clearly be a huge upgrade and help solidify the back end. Thoughts?
August 29th, 2017 at 2:10 pm
I’m an FSU alum, but I don’t lobby for every ‘nole. Erving was a difference maker though. I can’t believe he is a bust. He transformed the entire line and dominated at Center playing it for only one year. Wow. Not sure if something happened to him or if it is CLeveland. But wow. If Bucs get him, that is a potential steal. He started at Center Jameis’ Heisman year after at least two years as a starter at LT.
August 29th, 2017 at 2:15 pm
I get it, don’t ask & don’t tell.
But Psssh – Cameron Erving is softer than pink cotton candy.
So Hellll Nah
August 29th, 2017 at 2:20 pm
And then there’s this…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sm7KR4z_5k
August 29th, 2017 at 2:23 pm
Brown played him at LG – terrible
Moved him to center – terrible
Flipped him over to RT – 1st Game: strip, fumble, sack + benching
August 29th, 2017 at 2:23 pm
No thanks… everything I’ve read about him says that he’s a human turnstile, Cleveland fans want him run out of town.
August 29th, 2017 at 2:35 pm
I would consider trading a 6th for him, but as a pro he has not shown a lot.
Very good college player, but the Browns struggle to develop talent.
August 29th, 2017 at 3:27 pm
He was not terrible at LT for FSU, they were getting killed at center and had a good young tackle. Moved Erving to center and saved the season.
I have not seen him in Cleveland hear he is terrible, but then again who isn’t?
August 29th, 2017 at 3:52 pm
Cam Erving was a heck of a prospect coming out. I have a hard time believing he’s a bust and can’t make in the pros. More likely the coaching he’s received in Cleveland has been bad.
If the price is right – I say bring him in.
813bucboi saying Cam sucked at Tackle for FSU couldn’t be farther from the truth
August 29th, 2017 at 4:16 pm
How about trading a 2019 6th rd. pick – for Spencer Drango?
August 29th, 2017 at 6:14 pm
One thing the Browns have done well at is developing offensive lineman.
August 29th, 2017 at 8:35 pm
How about trading Jmac33 and Doug22 to Cleveland for Joe Mixon…???
Same OL, much, much different results.
Ok…I can dream….
August 29th, 2017 at 10:36 pm
Erving is young and maybe being around Winston could help his career. I would only give up a late round pick for him though
August 30th, 2017 at 12:21 am
Erving has been terrible as a pro. Always thought he was overrated in college, especially his last 2 years playing with Winston because he covered up a lot for all of those limited lineman, but the extent of his terribleness in the pro’s has still been a bit shocking. Bob Wiley is a very good offensive line coach, so he might just not be cut out for this league. Maybe he’ll fit in better with a zone blocking scheme like Seattle’s because he’s not cut out for a more power scheme approach.