“And Then Your Greed Takes Over”
August 23rd, 2017
Serving up tough love
Nothing quite like a mic’d up Dirk Koetter in the heat of battle — when things go wrong.
Must-see TV.
And we saw it last night on Hard Knocks, when HBO delivered Koetter’s freakout after America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, lobbed a ball in the end zone aimlessly on third down Thursday night. He was three inches off the ground while getting sacked by the Jaguars and the pass was intercepted, though that was reversed when officials determined Jameis had indeed been sacked.
That outcome, though, didn’t matter to Koetter. He saw what fans saw live — a sometimes reckless QB in action.
Koetter’s message to Jameis was a blend of appreciation, love and discipline.
“Jameis, you’re fu**’n playing a great game. You’re playing a great game. And then your greed takes over. If this is real football, that’s a fuc**ng stupid. That’s guaranteed points. You’re so much better than that. You’re so much better. You’re playing a great game. You just threw a great, perfect spot to O.J. [Howard], great go-route. And you fu**’n do that. You got me? You can’t do that. Ever. Ever. Ever!”
So well handled by Koetter. Honest and sincere, but fair and balanced.
Hard Knocks has helped Joe further realize why Bucs players love Koetter so much. He’s respectful but direct, fiery but measured, honest but real.
August 23rd, 2017 at 2:45 am
Bret Farve never met a play he couldnt make.
Ive compared them, since we drafted him.
Jameis is growing into more of a Risk taker, as he gets more confident.
I dont think Koetter or anyone else is gonna change his stripes to spots.
And I love him for it! Im willing to endure an interception now and then, even an occasional lose.
To see the incredible plays this young man is capable of!!
Farve took a lot of heat for his multiple retirements- sometimes we forget what Magic he performed on the field.
Always a Bucs Fan! But, you couldnt help but watch Farve!
I think we are in for 10-12 years of that same magic!
August 23rd, 2017 at 3:27 am
Favorite moment of the episode. Close behind would be the Qb’s talking about saving goats.
August 23rd, 2017 at 5:35 am
Can’t help me – but I’d love to hear the discussion when the throw was caught for a TD. Do you think, it would have been the same message??
August 23rd, 2017 at 6:21 am
I think the funniest moment of the episode is when Gerald McCoy trying hide a hot dog on the sidelines with the cameras focused on him..
August 23rd, 2017 at 6:46 am
You got to luv this guy!
August 23rd, 2017 at 6:50 am
^What Bird said!!!!!
August 23rd, 2017 at 7:00 am
Well said Cpt. Tim!!!
Man!!! We have THE QB, a solid offense, a solid defense, a great punter, great offensive and defensive schemes, great coaches but just as good of a GM.
Licht is like Jameis! For every bad pick there is an interception. But I tell you what I don’t want either one changing there ways because I am loving their success!!!
Give me 90% success and you will make me forget about the other 10%!!!!
August 23rd, 2017 at 7:01 am
^bad draft pick or free agent
August 23rd, 2017 at 7:08 am
Think about it like this in 3 quarters of this preseason. Jameis has made one bad decision but guess what last year he threw a jump ball against the Rams . That kept us in the game, I repeat kept us in the game. We’ll always have a chance with him back there competitor = winner.
August 23rd, 2017 at 7:53 am
Growing up in Alabama, James was able to watch and follow the career of Bret Fahvre. It seems that Jameis had the perfect quarterback to have as a role model. His play style is so similar.
August 23rd, 2017 at 8:03 am
Jameis wanting to make plays all the time maybe the Bucs “achillies heel”
…….and you all need to stop Comparing him to Farve………be Brett has a cannon for an any arm and he accuracy was way better than Jameis……one of the best Deep Ball throwers ever…….
Jameis couldn’t even Hold Brett Farve’s jock strap
August 23rd, 2017 at 9:39 am
BucsAnthem
Man get out of here with that weak sheet! That was a truly lame post. I hope you understand that we respect Chucky’s take FAR MORE than your lamearse effort.
Chucky was coaching on the Pack teams with Favre and HE made the freaking comparison!!!
And you are simply WRONG about Favre’s superior accuracy. #3 is right at 60% for his first two seasons. Favre had FIVE seasons were he passed for less than 60%…his career mark was 62%. #3 has worked diligently on his accuracy as we saw in his workout regimen last night…he is throwing at a 70% clip in practice and preseason…I do not expect that to hold up but it’s clear whiners like you are simply overdoing it with your unfounded criticism.
The deep bomb to ME13 in the Jax game was a Gruden said in the broadcast…a PERFECT pass..on the hands.
Man I don’t usually go after individual posters…but if you’re going to TROLL us like that..disparging our most important and BELOVED player at least get off your lazy duff and do some research!
August 23rd, 2017 at 9:59 am
what he said ^
August 23rd, 2017 at 10:17 am
@ stpetebucsfan
STATS ARE FOR LOSERS!!!!!! (RM)
Just because a QB can scramble around and chuck a ball up deep to one of the best 6’5 receivers in the league for “50/50” balls doesn’t make him comparable to Brett Favre. Sure, find a QB in the past who’s “comparable” in regards to “style” of play but not in terms of skills…..which Jameis is not. Oh BTW, Brett Favre never tried to target one receiver all the time for his deep balls, he threw it when he thought he could make a play with ANY WR……not just one.
#1 We all know how much Gruden is a Cheerleader when it comes to QBs and NFL players…….He was high on Bruce Gradkowski look what he’s doing now………CAREER BACKP; Gruden mentioned stardom for Johnny Manziel and Tim Tebow……and Let’s not even mention the players he brought in like Charlie Garner and Tim Brown…….so I cannot even believe you mentioned Gruden’s name.
#2 I don’t need stats after watching Brett Favre play for 20 years. I even watched him play other teams besides the Bucs……so don’t even mention stats to me. I trust my eyeballs more than your precious stats research.
#3 Calling someone a “troll” just for being critical and voicing their opinions is lame within itself. Go ahead and keep on attacking my posts if it makes you feel better because it bothers me none.
August 23rd, 2017 at 10:36 am
Buc1987 Says:
March 24th, 2015 at 10:30 pm
“A cross between Big Ben and Brett Favre. That’s what I have Jameis whittled down to in my mind. Many people have said Big Ben, no one has mentioned Favre.”
“I say Favre, because Winston’s not afraid to throw it like Favre. He takes chances like Favre. Might throw a lot of picks in one game, but he will win it the end. Favre was never afraid of throwing a pick…always trying to fit balls in tight spaces.
We’ll see.”
August 23rd, 2017 at 11:17 am
Jameis Winston is most like Jameis Winston. Stop the comparisons. He’s the first Jameis. He walks his own walk. Student of the game who wants to win at all costs. And expects those with him to sell out as well. Leave it all on the field. Favre, Ben, Elway, whatever. He’s Jameis.
August 23rd, 2017 at 11:25 am
The Buc anthem is 100% right!!!!. Love the fact that Koetter is all over this. All the time…..what does that say. Calling him greedy is classic. Anyone who cares about wins only …not stats. Agrees with what Koetter is doing. It’s all situationally when we are up by 10 to start the 4th. There is no need to take big risks. Make the other team work to beat you. Don’t beat yourself. There will be some tight games with playoffs on the line. Last season was a great example of this. Great stat year for Winston. It’s Winston the gunslinger that showed up vs Dallas. We lost that game because he turned the ball over. In a game where risks should have be limited. The season was on the line! Then next week same thing. Playoffs in the line vs Dallas and NO both games decided by a TD and he had 5 INTS and 2 fumbles. Koetter knows you can’t win consistently in the NFL. Taking the risks Winston takes.
August 23rd, 2017 at 12:10 pm
welcome back from detention 87!
August 23rd, 2017 at 12:44 pm
Bucsanthem
– a truly clueless and ignorant post.
Jameis was drafted 1st overall
– Farve wasnt even drafted in the First Round. And, was then traded by the team that drafted him, The Atlanta Falcons.
Jameis arm is just as strong, and better accuracy. Ive seen them both. Farve had a really strong Arm. So does Mr.Winston
What makes them very similar, is that both of them believe they can make every single play- because of their Arms.
So far, Jameis thinks no play is dead. He, like Farve, thinks he can salvage any play.
Fantastic to watch, even though it will get you in trouble sometimes.
I’ll gladly take it!
August 23rd, 2017 at 1:29 pm
Welcome back ’87!!
August 23rd, 2017 at 1:35 pm
“You can’t do that. Ever. Ever. EVER!!”
Couldn’t have said it better myself coach.
So glad we are getting this inside look at our training camp and preseason via Hard Knocks. Never would have heard coach’s on the spot reaction to a play like that otherwise.
Last night’s episode was probably pretty boring for most non-Bucs fans. But I for one am absolutely loving seeing the Bucs featured on HK this year.
August 23rd, 2017 at 1:41 pm
TheBucsAnthem … you’re just plain wrong.
Favre was my fave QB of all-time and I watched his entire career and Jameis is light years ahead of Brett at this age and at this stage of his career.
Favre did have a bigger arm, an A++++ but Jameis has a solid “A” arm so that’s nothing to denigrate Jameis for.
However, Jameis is more accurate than Favre imho … and he’s still extremely young.
I also believe Jameis is stronger, a bit more athletic and far more “clutch” than Favre, as Brett was a guy you literally felt was 50/50 and that he could lose you a game as much as he could win you a game …
I also have no doubt that Jameis is more dedicated to football, has a greater desire to be great and can read defenses better than Favre ever could, let alone at Jameis’ current age.
As far as locking onto receivers goes … Favre locked onto Sterling Sharpe for years … don’t revise history.
Anyways, I love Favre and he’s now my 2nd fave QB of all-time …
August 23rd, 2017 at 8:20 pm
I was pretty happy with the way Dirk handled, he handled it much better than Joe and the rest of the media did. He was p/o’d then got over it and moved on. Winston doesn’t need to be told it’s a bad play – does anyone think he doesn’t know that already? I strongly believe it’s preseason and he knows it and was just trying to make something happen – he hasn’t made that play in the regular season and I don’t think he will. Then again when you’re being dragged you can think you got time and not have it – that can happen. If Winston just gave up on plays the way you people want you don’t get that huge play versus the Bears last year, you don’t get that amazing run against the Falcons in 2015. Jameis is a playmaker and you don’t cut the balls off a playmaker because you’re afraid of mistakes. The kid is 23 and has only played football year round for 2 years now, you play, you learn, you make mistakes, you get better.
August 23rd, 2017 at 8:27 pm
NFLNut – You know I never thought about this until reading your post but I wonder if Jameis is still adjusting to being a lot lot smaller than he used to be. What did he say he was in his rookie season, maybe 260 at one point? While people can think at 260 he was fat, that weight helps balance you and make you harder to tackle. He’s in extremely good shape now, the stuff he was doing with the trainer, there’s no way he was doing that stuff in 2015 – and if I’m wrong I want to see the footage because I don’t believe it. Anywho I lost a ton of weight and sure I was in much better shape and faster and quicker, but I was also a lot smaller – at pre weight loss there was no way I was getting tackled 1-on-1 unless someone took out my legs – but once I lost weight I could in no way fight off people the same way I did before even though weightlifting wise I was much stronger than when I was heavy.
Just a random thing I didn’t consider. Also I wouldn’t say Winston has better physical attributes than Favre – I think they’re very very similar. You’re correct in that Favre’s arm was insane but I will say Winston has a better arm than he generally shows in games – I think he takes something off the ball to add touch, that’s something Favre didn’t do until later in his career. I think on your scale I’d say Winston is actually an A+ when he lets it rip, but just not the insane A++++ that Favre was.