“F Your Circumstances”
August 31st, 2017
So how great of a leader is America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston?
We learned on Hard Knocks this week that general manager Jason Licht thinks Jameis is the greatest leader he’s ever been around — in any walk of life. And this is a guy who worked alongside and/or with Andy Reid, Bill Belicheat, Don Shula, Jimmy Johnson and other monsters of the gridiron.
Joe doesn’t get crazy worked up about leadership. It can be overrated. But it’s important, especially for a playoff team.
The Bucs still have to get there, but Joe would pick Jameis over any other quarterback under 30.
In Jameis’ crazy-intense pregame speech before the Browns-Bucs preseason game, the height of Jameis’ screaming call for unity included the following gem.
“Don’t worry about the rain, and F your circumstances! We don’t got no circumstances! All we know is ball and ball is life!
So much fun. And Joe loves the mindset. This year, the Bucs have enough talent and the coaching to win — to hit 10 wins and get to the playoffs. “F” the circumstances, the schedule, the excuses, the inevitable injuries. It’s time for a breakthrough season.
August 31st, 2017 at 9:23 am
Joe he said not just in football but in life in general
August 31st, 2017 at 9:26 am
a lot of f words flying around Lovie the worst coach in buccaneer history would not be happy….
Jameis is correct though… do you job and leave your BS at home… too many mentally weak people carry too much bs to work
August 31st, 2017 at 9:37 am
you wouldn’t pick jameis over any other qb or you wouldn’t pick any other qb over jameis ??
August 31st, 2017 at 9:39 am
“The Bucs still have to get there, but Joe wouldn’t pick Jameis over any other quarterback under 30.”
Joe, was that supposed to be “would” pick instead of “wouldn’t”? If not, I don’t understand the statement.
August 31st, 2017 at 9:58 am
Only Rick James said it better……”F your couch #!&&@….F your couch! They never should have gave you #!&&@s money!”
August 31st, 2017 at 11:06 am
LOL…^^^…I AGREE!!!!
August 31st, 2017 at 11:06 am
Damn, well said #3!!!!
August 31st, 2017 at 11:07 am
Why is Jameis’ leadership skills always brought up like he is the greatest leader EVER? All I see is a cheerleader that gets there early to try to get better or make it seem like he was worth the first pick in the draft. Leaders lead by example and don’t need to be as vocal as Winston is. Look at Dak Prescott and what he has done in Dallas in one year and he doesn’t have to try to pump the team up every game. He just does his job and doesn’t turn the ball over which goes a long way. Almost EVERY game comes down to the last drive of the game and if you are spotting the other team 10 (or more) points it is hard to overcome. Winston still makes the same rookie mistakes he ALWAYS has and may NEVER change. Some QB’s just turn the ball over (like Trent Dilfer) and don’t protect the football very well. At least Jameis is trying to improve on his accuracy which will help in the long run.
Putting all our eggs in one basket with Winston has cost the team depth and we are still about 2 or 3 years away from having the depth we had when Dungy was here. We already had a QB that could get the job done with the right OC calling plays for him but NOBODY wanted him. I hope he proves you ALL wrong in Chicago and has a great year, that is what we deserve for the way we treated him while he was here. If we had traded the No. 1 pick for more draft picks we would be closer to being a winning team. Now, we still need a couple more drafts to fill in the depth at certain positions. The ONLY way we are going to the Playoffs this year is if JW plays better than the last 2 years. We would have made the Playoffs last year if he didn’t make SO many mistakes and lead the league in INT’s. He needs to learn how to protect the football or NOTHING else matters. Anybody could pump the team up before a game if they led by example like Warren Sapp did. I am sick and tired of hearing what a leader Winston is when he has yet to do anything. Glennon could have put up 8,000 yards and OVER 50 TD’s if Dirk would have been his OC like JW the last 2 years. There is NOTHING special about what Jameis has done the last 2 years, even putting up those numbers. I hope he makes the leap to the next level this year and gets us to the Playoffs. The ONLY way we are going to get there is for him to stop turning the ball over. Go BUCS!
August 31st, 2017 at 11:17 am
BigStinky
What a great name for your last post. You realize you’re going against the wisdom of the vast majority of folks who actually make their living working in the NFL?
August 31st, 2017 at 11:17 am
Leadership skills can be warranted with 10 plus years of losing and ass whoopings. There was a low point during that span when we needed leadership in the worse way. And we did get that leadership and quarterback all in 1 person and result are in…….
August 31st, 2017 at 11:22 am
Gmc damn sure doesn’t have no leadership pedigree and while u guys are at the practices, keep Gmc away from the rookies. This hog wash telling Godwin to catch to celebrate and dance. We need Godwin to catch to move chains and wins. Got damn Gmc u r a loser
August 31st, 2017 at 11:24 am
@Big Stinky
Please tell me you didn’t just suggest that the team would’ve been better off with Glennon? Well you’re probably in luck because he’ll probably be back in Tampa holding the clip board next season because Trubinsky is about to replace him by week 8.
As far as Dak, he had a great rookie season and one of the best O-lines in football but it’ll be interesting to see how he performs the first 6 games without teams keying on Elliott.
August 31st, 2017 at 11:34 am
BigStinky … the players, coaches, former coahes, GM’s etc., that know Jameis say his leadership is special and on a whole other level than most QBs, not just young QBs … and NO OTHER QB in the history of the NFL has ever started their career with back to back 4k+ seasons … not Marino, Manning, Brees, Rodgers (even though the dude didn’t even start balling till he was like 25 years old), Brady, etc … and Jameis did it as a 21-22 year old and at an age where most dudes are either still in college or merely learning while holding a clipboard in the NFL!
Also, Jameis did NOT lead the league in INT’s last year or during his rookie year, so get your facts straight … by the way Peyton Manning threw ONE HUNDRED picks in his first 5 years … Jameis will probably be around 70 or so after 5 years.
Open your eyes as you have a future first ballot HOF QB on your hands and enjoy the ride!
August 31st, 2017 at 11:40 am
Winston is a leader no doubt, but he needs to play like one. Now.
August 31st, 2017 at 11:51 am
@NFLNut
Peyton Manning also had Marshall Faulk and Edgerrin James in the backfield during his early years. Along with Dallas Clark and Marvin Harrison catching the ball. Winston only had Evans to work with pretty much both of his first 2 years because VJax was injured both seasons.
August 31st, 2017 at 11:54 am
@westernbuc… very true. I love Jameis but if you are going to throw the ball up for grabs into the endzone like its pop warner, then who cares about leadership. Tebow was a great leader but not accurate. I believe Jameis continues to grow and will be great. He has all the weapons so lets see it. I think there are 5 things a qb needs to be great… great talent, great leadership, great passion for being a pro, great accuracy, great decision making ability. The great thing is the 1st 3 cant be taught , you either have or you don’t and Jameis got it! We will see about the last 2. But, lets curb the , we got a 1st ballot HOFer here. His 1st year #’s arent much different than Peyton Manning or Blake Bortles
August 31st, 2017 at 12:07 pm
@NFLNUT
I hope you are right about how good Winston is cause I just don’t see it yet. All I see is a QB that put up relatively the same stats that Glennon did his first 18 games and he had a better OC than Mike did. I am NOT saying we would be better off with Glennon but things wouldn’t be much different either. We may have even made the Playoffs last year if MG8 had played the last 2 years. The depth on the team would be much better is ALL I know with ALL those extra picks. Trust me, I want him to turn out to be as good as you ALL make him out to be but we will see how he looks this year. I thought I heard that Jameis led the league in INT’s last year and Fitzpatrick was 2nd with 17. Are you sure that is NOT true? Guess I need to look it up for myself instead of taking someone elses word for it. Jameis looks funny to me trying to lead the team with a rah rah speech before the game and then NOT playing very well. I wish he just led by example and maybe that will happen this year. Maybe not!
August 31st, 2017 at 12:12 pm
After this off season to only end one game better than last season to me would be a great disappointment.
August 31st, 2017 at 12:16 pm
Readers,
Above please quietly observe a truly rare, and thought to be extinct, species: A Mike Glennon Mobber.
Please do not get close or attempt to feed. These specimens are considered desperate and highly irritable.
August 31st, 2017 at 12:23 pm
Most posts are intelligent and well thought out on JBF.
However a small minority that post on this site are not to bright.
August 31st, 2017 at 12:25 pm
@NOSBOS
I agree with you.
10 wins would be a bit of a disappointment.
August 31st, 2017 at 12:26 pm
As they say down here: “Vamos a ver”.
August 31st, 2017 at 12:32 pm
I’ll add that I agree with Stinky in some areas: Lead by example and not by jumping and shouting, and yes, the Bucs have some weak spots due to an undue emphasis on making Winston look good. Build a team in a balanced way…
August 31st, 2017 at 12:34 pm
I love me some MGM posts…giggles are always included..lol We have the better of the 2 QBs so stop soiling your panties over nothing. #3 has talked a good game and I am hopeful his on field play will match it. If he talks and doesn’t deliver, he could lose this team and his eyes spoke it on hard knocks after they showed him (post red zone INT). You could see the concern and he knows it. He has the weapons now so no excuses. His preseason play and reputation for slow starts is concerning but I do believe he can get it done but it will take a TEAM effort.
MGM_Nuts >>>What did Elsa say? Let it go? Please do already or move to Chi-town, whichever is easier for you.
August 31st, 2017 at 12:48 pm
“Leadership isn’t, I say boy are you listening to me? I say, leadership isn’t going to matter if you don’t score points, son. I mean, pay attention to me boy. I mean scoring points is the name of the game. You don’t score points, son. I say son, you gotta pay attention. I say son, you gotta score points to win.” — Foghorn Leghorn “I say that boy is so broke, that he’s too poor to pay attention.”
August 31st, 2017 at 1:52 pm
The comedic value of some of these posts is priceless.
August 31st, 2017 at 2:24 pm
I thought that pep-talk was a little over-the-top… Talking about adversity because of rain? Please. Plus, it was a preseason game. Jameis’ fire is admirable, but these speeches are a little overwrought.
August 31st, 2017 at 2:57 pm
What the naysayers above don’t realize and can’t wrap their negative, uninformed minds around is the fact that Jameis is only 23 years old this season.
23.
17 years younger than Brady.
Read that again
17 years younger than Brady
15 years younger than Brees.
And he’s ALREADY as good as he is. Folks, this is as good as it gets for a team and its QB position. Think about it… 5 years from now Jameis will just be entering his prime as a QB. 10 years from now he could still have another 3-5 years of playing time remaining. It’s absurd to think about.
He is not going to be as good as he’s ever going to get this season. Not even close. He will be better than last season. If he does that every year… the Bucs have the brightest future in the NFL.
August 31st, 2017 at 3:12 pm
He still needs to score points. Defense can’t pitch a shutout every week.
August 31st, 2017 at 3:23 pm
Gotta love when uninformed show themselves…
August 31st, 2017 at 4:34 pm
I’m informed. Just being realistic. Jameis is having the gunslinger coached out of him. I’ll take a turnover to get two and eventually three more TDs. Jameis will learn on his own what he can and cannot accomplish with the football. What made Brett Favre great wasn’t trying to coach turnovers out of him. What made him great was letting him make plays.
Koetter and Bajakian can go over the Polaroids on the sideline and ask Jameis what he saw on good play or bad play and why he got the result he got. He will be the better for it if you foster his talent at this point. Jameis knows when he did something wrong. Let him take responsibility for it. Let him have take ownership of it. Let the other guys on the team see him take ownership and responsibility and getting better.
Let Jameis play. You got him all of these nice shiny weapons. Let him play.
August 31st, 2017 at 4:45 pm
^^ If they hadn’t “coached out of him” then he’d be throwing 25+ interceptions. He’s learning how to pick his spots when it’s time to sling it.
August 31st, 2017 at 10:37 pm
^^^That wasn’t directed at you, longSeason.