Praise For Charles Sims
July 30th, 2017
Dirk Koetter discusses.
Joe has made it clear he’s not all in on Charles Sims.
However, today, winning Bucs coach Dirk Koetter offered a nugget that suggests Sims has much more job stability than Joe previously thought.
After training camp practice, Koetter was asked about Sims. While Koetter correctly stated it is way too early to assign roles much less roster spots, he said something about Sims that resonated with Joe.
“At the very least,” Koetter said. “Charles is a really good third down back who is great in protection.”
It was the latter phase of Koetter’s comment that got Joe’s attention: Sims is “great” in pass blocking and protecting the quarterback.
And who does Sims block for in passing situations? The Franchise himself, the most important player on the Bucs, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.
Now Joe agrees wholeheartedly that Sims is a good third-down back receiving the football. Sims is very much a mediocre runner and, after three years, it sure appears that his ceiling is a third-down back. When he is healthy.
But if Sims can protect The Franchise, then he’s got a giant leg up for a roster spot.
July 30th, 2017 at 2:33 pm
When healthy, which is t often, Sims can make the claim to be the best 3rd down back in football and is certainly one of the best pass catching RB’s in football. If he can stay healthy, and it’s a big if, Sims absolutely has a spot on the roster.
July 30th, 2017 at 2:50 pm
Praise from somebody who counts. All that matters.
July 30th, 2017 at 3:17 pm
I am with Head Coach Koetter on this, and I am a fan of CS34!!!! Health has been a huge issue so far!!!!! And I do not think just taking what he did in Denver game is a true showing of him running between the tackles!!!!! He is not great at it, But is not bad as some people state!!!!!!!
No one could have run up between the tackles in that Denver game!!!!!!!!
Go CS34!!!!!!!!!!!
And GO BUCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 30th, 2017 at 3:25 pm
I agree with Joe on this one. I’m also not sold on Sims. That doesn’t mean I think he’ll get cut, just that I think he will only get playing time in situations and I think we can fill that role with other backs. I love his catching ability and he can make plays, but due to his limited running abilities and injury history he shouldn’t be a lock.
July 30th, 2017 at 3:26 pm
@Realist
We now agree on at least two things……Sims &
Dominck is the worst GM in Bucs history…..perhaps the history of the NFL….
July 30th, 2017 at 3:28 pm
Bruce Allen had how many Pro Bowlers?
July 30th, 2017 at 3:35 pm
@Joe
Bruce Allen has been a GM for 3 teams and had them in the playoff multiple times each!!!!!
dominik is answering phone calls on a part time radio sports show!!!!!!
Its not even close!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 30th, 2017 at 3:43 pm
I can’t stand Sims in our backfield…however, I cannot wait for him to change my mind! I love to hear Koetter praise him and I will be happy to eat a little crow this year.
Go Sims!! Go Bucs!!
July 30th, 2017 at 3:47 pm
Come post Redskins game, how well is Barber on pass protection–as far as improvement in the time he gets in preseason, which will be a lot? Who is better on first and second down? You don’t keep a RB on the roster because he can block when you need to stack the deck with guys who can run between the tackles, especially if there is concern that Rodgers may not hold up due to size. If Barber has a good preseason and shows improvement, I fully expect it will be Martin, Rodgers, Barber, McNichols on the depth chart until someone…maybe McNichols, changes it up due to performance. Unless Martin doesn’t perform, it will be miracle if he isn’t on the roster in week 4 of the regular season. If Sims doesn’t step it up on first and second down and suddenly learn to run between the tackles, it will be a miracle if he’s on the roster at that same time.
July 30th, 2017 at 4:00 pm
Sims is quite the playmaker when healthy. He might only be good for 8-10 touches per game but if he makes a big play on 1 or 2 of those – then of course you find a place for that guy and find ways to get him the ball with some space a few times a game.
July 30th, 2017 at 4:23 pm
Off the top of my head, allen had joseph, cadillac, talib and smith the punt returner. Come on joe, dominick is no where in the same class as allen.
July 30th, 2017 at 4:29 pm
I forgot penn as well.
July 30th, 2017 at 4:32 pm
@Pickgrin, Sims has been injured two of his three years. He’s never been able to run between the tackles, and last year his average was 2.9 yards per carry. The ONLY play I recall him making in his career was the catch and run in Game 1 at Atlanta last year. Though I am open to being corrected if there is enough more to call him a “playmaker.” What am I missing? Now, folks, including Joe, say Martin had only two of five years that were good, despite being injured for two of three bad ones. Sims has had two of three bad years using that same logic. Last year, a bad year for Martin, he still rushed for same average and had more big plays (but not nearly enough) than Sims. My point is keep the guy who performs best, but as a minimum, you gotta be able to carry the ball for 3.5 or more yards on first and second down. Sims simply hasn’t done that. We know why Martin stunk last year. Why did Sims? Some people also say to ditch Martin because he screwed his team. So did guys like Dalvin Cook and Adrian Peterson, and Kwon Alexander. Do you throw them away? Heck no.
July 30th, 2017 at 4:34 pm
We took him over trai Thomas who went the pick after
raise your hand if u don’t want a pro bowl guard
July 30th, 2017 at 4:59 pm
A reporter from local rag TBT tweets today: “Jersey numbers for newest Bucs — S Marqueston Huff @MHuff28 will wear No. 34, while WR Jhajuan Seales @Jseales_OSU81 will wear No. 83.”
Sims is 34. Right? Is Sims changing? Or just another TBT mistake?
July 30th, 2017 at 5:05 pm
@ destin
Im cool with marpet seeing that “trai turner” actually went 25 picks after simms which means that many teams chose not to pick him. The only reason marpet is not a pro bowler is the same reason kwon is not a probowler. Thomas had a big name in college and he went to a team that was a playoff team three years straight and went to the superbowl. The bucs were not getting respect. If the bucs have a season they hope to, then you will see at least 6 pro bowlers this year.
July 30th, 2017 at 5:06 pm
Fyi… i know marpet and turner was not the same draft class
July 30th, 2017 at 5:13 pm
Every post that Realist wrote is spot on..all of them..
I am a huge Sims fan..
July 30th, 2017 at 5:49 pm
Joe has made it very clear that he has never been “All In” on anybody, EVER!?!?!?!?
Lol
July 30th, 2017 at 5:50 pm
Don’t believe Bruce Allen drafted sean penn. I believe he was with another team his first year.
July 30th, 2017 at 6:01 pm
correction: Donald Penn and and tampa seems to be his first team.
July 30th, 2017 at 6:11 pm
Upon further review ,Penn was picked up by tampa bay after minnesota
released him.At any rate he was a great pickup.In retrospect team should have
worked with him on the weight issues.
July 30th, 2017 at 6:14 pm
I agree with Rod and Realist on this one.
So what..Sims doesn’t run between the tackles…The “Muscle Turtle” runs well between the tackles but NEVER takes it to the house! They each have different skill sets.
But if Sims can actually pass block that is a huge asset for us on 3rd down or any down for that matter.
Sims in open space is as good a runner as we have on this team. Can we get him into open space?
While I agree with Rod and Realist gotta say the final arbiter for me is DK. If DK is on board then so am I!!!
July 30th, 2017 at 6:16 pm
as for charles Sims ,i never understood why Doug martin and Rainey were thrown wheel routes.Neither had the height or recieving to pull those passes in,whereas Sims does.
July 30th, 2017 at 6:17 pm
receivivig skills
July 30th, 2017 at 6:18 pm
BTW…have folks here forgotten about the old saying…Don’t cry over spilt milk?
I do not care who we might have drafted if not for the Sims selection. You can play that guessing game all year long and it literally doesn’t matter.
Coulda…Shoulda…Woulda…three of the most useless words in the English language. For heaven’s sake…Sims is who we DID draft…he is A BUC…the other hypothetical draft picks are not!!!
The bullfrog would not scrape his behind on the big rocks if he could only fly!
July 30th, 2017 at 6:54 pm
Bob
My point is he was an undrafted rookie who allen signed and if you remember, he stepped in for todd stussie from the giants as a rookie and never lost his spot. Penn’s first start was against jared allen.
July 30th, 2017 at 7:22 pm
Sims will be the next player that we will tear up the league when he leaves tampa
Aquib talib
Michael bennett
Charles sims
He is the best pass catching rb in the league better than bell and david johnson
When he goes to a quick throwing pass offense he will get 1k yards catching yearly
We under use the amazing skillset sims pocess.
July 30th, 2017 at 7:26 pm
My bad, demarcus ware. Potatoe/patatow
July 30th, 2017 at 7:29 pm
Kobe:
The fly in your ointment is that Sims is a below-average runner. When he comes into the game, it’s a big time tell to the defense what’s going to happen.
July 30th, 2017 at 7:45 pm
Yes, agreed. Sims cant run against a stacked box on 1st/2nd down but is effective running on 3rd down against a nickle def
Martin is the absolute worst skillset rb. He cant catch a meaningful pass and isnt big enough for 3rd and short. He is only good at running 1st and 2nd down making 8 mill.
“Quizz is our best runningback”
Kobe faker
July 30th, 2017 at 7:47 pm
Haven’t see that for almost two years. When he’s healthy.
July 30th, 2017 at 8:24 pm
@joe , M dumbanic gave u inside access , doesn’t mean he was good , get off his jock
July 30th, 2017 at 9:04 pm
Im sorry kobe, but martin caught 50 passes for close to 500 yrds his rookie year. He caught 33 in 2015 and thats splitting time with sims on 3rd down. The other years he caught around 14 which coincide with his injury plagued years. I beleive you are underestimating Martin’s receiving skills. He is nowhere near as poor as you are making him out to be.
July 30th, 2017 at 9:20 pm
Webster I agree,but Allen also brought in a lot of aging players with little or nothing in the tank.Todd Steusie was so bad they gave him a signing bonus and then fired him and resigned him at league minimum.Tim Brown,Charlie Garner
and another lineman from giants who never played for us because he hurt his back.Believe his name was dan Turk from giants. Both Allen and Dominic bear responsibility for the lack of talent on team before Licht.
July 30th, 2017 at 11:31 pm
Even the coach is letting you know he’s a part of the bucs plans going forward. With the new weapons that we have & a new lineup at Oline, this could be a big yr for Chuck
July 31st, 2017 at 1:41 am
He can’t pass block either unless he’s been working on that. Last year he was below avg.
July 31st, 2017 at 11:36 am
@ bob
You have to remember, with the exception of the year after the bucs won the super bowl, the glazers did not open the wallet again until 2012. The players the bucs were signing were cheap veterans. Gruden wanted bress, ownership signed off on garcia. Remember the bucs were the only team interested in jeremy strvens. They signed antonio bryant off the couch. He was out of football for 2 years prior. They signed philip bucannon off the couch when they were in need of a conerback. Tim brown was so cheap his last year and only year with the bucs. Bears signed peppers, the bucs signed stylez white from the arena league. The bucs had the lowest payroll from 2004 – 2012. Allen’s job was to keep cost down thanks to manchester u and the glazers directive. I cant really blame the gm for that.