Second Best Of The Century
March 18th, 2017
Stunning data — real data.
DeSean Jackson is more productive than you might realize.
In fact, Joe (not the spreadsheet crowd) has dug up stunning numbers.
Jackson’s career average yards per reception is 17.7. That’s the second best total of any NFL receiver this century.
Julio Jones? 15.3 yards per catch.
Calvin Johnson? 15.9 yards per catch
Amari Cooper? 14.3 yards per catch.
Jordi Nelson? 14.8 yards per catch.
Vincent Jackson? 16.8 yards per catch.
The only guy better than DeSean Jackson this century was Devery Henderson, who played nine years with the Saints (2004-2012),
Henderson averaged 17.9 yards per catch, but he only caught 245 balls in his career. DeSean Jackson has caught twice that total (498) and he’s led the league in yards per catch three times (2010, 2014 & 2016).
Yes, the Bucs added big time juice to their lineup. When the Bucs line up with two wide receivers, Evans and Jackson, somebody has to get single coverage — and a defensive coordinator will be soiling his pants.
March 18th, 2017 at 3:05 pm
Couple more weapons in the draft and I’m full go ready for the season!!! Go Bucs
March 18th, 2017 at 3:09 pm
Alvin Harper? 20.04 yards per catch in Dallas.
Just saying.
March 18th, 2017 at 3:12 pm
Let Bucs fans see what you got left before the praise is heaped. I better get a bigger shovel.
March 18th, 2017 at 3:12 pm
Its time for some payback. I got a laundry list of teams I’m ready to it give to.
March 18th, 2017 at 3:14 pm
At the top of that list is the rams. DB Sweez gone make you lose some of your adoration for donald. Watch what I tell you.
March 18th, 2017 at 3:22 pm
Let me make something clear Blake Dalvin is my favorite choice for our football team no doubt. But if we go in another direction 75 that’ll be fine by me. I’ll welcome whoever Duke happens to be with open arms. As long they are mentally set on giving it to whomever lineups in front of them on Sundays. Far too long I’ve watched so called fans jump from one band wagon to another while I remain patiently with my team. I’m ready to talk good s@$! to some people. I can already see it in there eyes at my place of business cause they know I’m notorious with this s@$! talk in reference to my beloved Buccaneers.
March 18th, 2017 at 3:31 pm
nosbos, we may not see eye to eye on every issue but I do love your for passion for the Bucs.
March 18th, 2017 at 3:38 pm
Jackson wasn’t a good pickup…he was a GREAT pickup. Perfectly timed before a potential large payout to Mike Evans in two seasons ( if not before using the aforementioned leftover cash from Gil The Thrill’s column ).
March 18th, 2017 at 3:40 pm
Joe, any stat that leads with Devery Henderson is a worthless stat, man. Devery was never even very good. He was adequate. At best.
March 18th, 2017 at 3:56 pm
Big ups Jimbo. What we all share is a deep interwoven desire to see these young men be great. I feel We’ll begin to see just that in 2017.
March 18th, 2017 at 4:12 pm
Henderson was super fast also. Never did much versus Tampa a few TDs tho
March 18th, 2017 at 4:46 pm
Can you imagine if somehow john Ross falls to us…. WOW
March 18th, 2017 at 4:52 pm
Rod
That was just in dallas. Talking career numbers. Alvin posted about 4 yds a catch here on the few he caught
March 18th, 2017 at 5:00 pm
NOSBOS I’m with Capt Jim…love your passion for the Bucs and it does happen that we do agree about Dalvin…now more than ever.
I feel the need…the need for speed and we are getting it.
I didn’t realize until today that Ali Marpet had the fastest 40 at his NFL combine and last year Caleb Benenoch matched Ali’s time and was the 3rd fastest OL to come out last year. They both ran 4.98 40’s. That’ actually smoking when you consider they are 6-5 300+lb dudes. Man even our OL is getting fast!
March 18th, 2017 at 5:14 pm
D-Jax is a great addition obviously but imo we still need to add depth through the draft. Honestly, I wouldn’t mind if they took a speed receiver early like John Ross (if medical checks out) or Carlos Henderson and then take a WR late for special teams and depth. I haven’t watched anything on this guy, but from what I read Mack Hollins is a great fit. Here are a couple things about him that I liked and some quotes from the scouting reports I’ve read on Hollins.
First off he measured at the combine at 6-4 221 lbs. Ran a 4.53 40 which is also pretty impressive for a guy that size.
“Dangerous run-after-catch ability in on deep crossing routes and slants.”
– This is interesting. Koetter wanted to add guys who can turn a 10 yard slant into a 30 yard gain. And who was the best QB on crossing routes last season? Mr. Jameis Winston. So far he is a good fit.
“Special teams captain all four years at school. Had 20 special teams tackles over his first three seasons and offers punt and kick cover value on special teams.”
– Another major plus since we just lost our special teams captain. Good fit.
“his gifted athleticism will make him attractive to vertical passing teams.”
– Well look at that. The Bucs are a vertical passing team. Another Plus.
“He’s fast enough to run by corners, and his second gear makes it tough for a quarterback to overthrow him. ” — Todd McShay
– Jameis has been criticized for his overthrows. 6-4 and speed is a good combo.
It seems like his biggest negatives are production (played on less than 50% of offensive snaps. 81 catches in 4 seasons, but 20.6 yards/rec and 20 TDs) and apparently he is raw in his technique so not a good route runner.
The draftblaster scouting report has his draft range from rounds 3-6, but walterfootball has his range from 6-undrafted, CBS sports rankings has him going undrafted, and Luke Easterlings 7 round mock he did this past week has him going at the end of the 7th round. On paper it seems to me he can fill the role that Joe wants Andre Holmes to fill. Big body that can be a vertical target and produce on special teams. I got no problem using a 6th or 7th round pick on him.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/mack-hollins?id=2558262
http://draftblaster.com/2017-NFL-Draft/schools/north-carolina/mack-hollins-wr/
March 18th, 2017 at 5:24 pm
I feel you Pete I also think we creating the whole Dalvin in the first Samuels in the second thing with our thoughts. Didn’t hear anything about any chats with Dalvin at the combine but I see someone posted something about them speaking to Samuels. So maybe one of us will indeed hit on our guy.
March 18th, 2017 at 5:30 pm
What would be awesome NOSBOS is if we got both of them!!!
I can see Dalvin in the 1st but after that 40 time I don’t think Samuels will be around very long in the 2nd. It is my wet dream though to get them both.
March 18th, 2017 at 5:46 pm
We just need to see what drops.
Oj Howard would be sweet.
Forrest lamp would be sweet.
If we put Mcafree into this offense it would be electric.
There will be some corners that most years would be top 10 picks at 19.
Our pass rush will be improved and having two up and coming db’s would be nice.
March 18th, 2017 at 6:23 pm
NosBos – my most amazing draft sim yet, I loaded up the offense and I also loaded up on defense by trading our future first round picks and then trading back for extra picks.
Dalvin Cook, Mike Williams, Evan Engram, JuJu Smith-Schuster, and two OL
Marcus Williams, Obi Melifonwu, Kevin King, Ryan Anderson, and Larry Ogunjobi.
March 18th, 2017 at 6:25 pm
Hey Kalind, I think Joe has to point out he was the first career wise cause he was man. It’s not a worthless stat. Your personal opinion about a players career has no weight when Joe is stating the facts of the stats. What did want him to say, he’s first cause the other guy sucked? C’mon man, he’s stating the facts. You can’t take the credit away from another guy cause you think he’s worthless. Henderson earned what he did even if he didn’t do enough of what you think he should’ve. Did you play in the NFL and earn the yards per catch? What makes you the expert on it? Leave him and Joe alone. Comment when it really matters. People are amazing with their opinions. Sheesh…..
March 18th, 2017 at 6:35 pm
Now that would be awesome USF.
March 18th, 2017 at 7:21 pm
Rod Munch Says:
March 18th, 2017 at 3:09 pm
Alvin Harper? 20.04 yards per catch in Dallas.
Just saying.
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He said this century. Harper played last century
March 18th, 2017 at 7:31 pm
Harper was a #2 wr…the bucs tried to make a #1
Jackson is an aging #1 with elite speed that will be a #2… I feel OK with that… Just hope we don’t see a bunch of soft tissue injuries.
March 18th, 2017 at 8:42 pm
Ummmm… AL YOU WISE ASSES SEE WHO #3 is this century???
March 18th, 2017 at 10:26 pm
I feel you NosBos. I too have dealt with consistent ridicule and Sh!t Talk bout my Bucs, from friends, coworkers, and strangers. And all of that stops this year.
March 18th, 2017 at 10:31 pm
Blah blah blah come on draft!
March 18th, 2017 at 10:43 pm
All of us REAL BUCS FANS need to put a stop to all the hate and constant ridiculing from these complainers, who always second guess every move they make. Am I only one who is excited for the draft and pumped about the free agents we picked up n ones we passed on as well. Very optimistic for this season and looking like one of best teams we have had in close to a decade. GO BUCS !!!!
March 18th, 2017 at 10:47 pm
But I do respect everyone’s opinion and mean no disrespect… I understand how this works as far as it being a opinionated forum.. But most of posts I read are down right silly, and people acting as though they have the credentials of a superbowl winning general manager lol..
March 18th, 2017 at 11:24 pm
StAugBuc – I know what Joe said, I was just pointing out that it’s not a very meaningful stat. The year before Harper got here he averaged 24.9 yards per catch (33-821-8).
For the guy who said Alvin average 4ypc while here, it was actually actually about 14.5 – and Alvin had the most catches of his career the first year he was here.
Alvin Harper for his career averaged 18.2ypc.
That stat doesn’t normally mean a whole lot. I like the signing a lot if Jackson can stay healthy, something he hadn’t done much of until it was a contract year. That’s a concern. But if he can stay healthy it’s a great signing, but then again the last time he played 16 games was when he was in Philly and he’s only done it twice, in 2013 and in his rookie season.
In other words, the Bucs need another WR that can be the #3 and slide right into that #2 slot when Jackson isn’t available, and there’s a very very very high likelihood that will be the case. Also drafting someone and expecting them to step right in and play… outside of the Evans/Beckham/etc year, that’s really not the norm. Again IF, and it’s a big IF, if Jackson plays 16 games it’s a great-fantastic pickup, but the lack of the Bucs making any backup plans thus far, it’s pretty incredible to me that they seem to be OK with the draft lottery being how to deal with this.
March 18th, 2017 at 11:27 pm
Aaron – I wasn’t criticizing Jackson and I share you concern, I was just pointing out a stat that I remember well since it was the selling point of Harper being signed, he was a big play guy, a guy that will strech the field, exactly what the Bucs then needed, etc. Jackson is a much much much superior player, but yards per catch isn’t really all that telling of a stat in most cases.
March 19th, 2017 at 1:42 am
Supersam “That part”.
March 19th, 2017 at 7:57 am
Jackson can be a nice addition to the offense to give Jameis another weapon but he is the kind of guy you can’t pin your hopes on. In his first contract he got franchised and then became such a problem child, the Eagles cut him loose the next year. In his second contract Washington put up no resistance to letting him walk. Based on previous history, he couldn’t spell team if you gave him a dictionary and a T E A headstart. He has to start being a “Look At Me” clown everytime he gets within 10 yards of the end zone. He seems to be a guy who will tease you with great talent and then crush you when his selfishness causes the team damage. I can see it now, NFC Championship on the line, 1 minute remaining in the game, Bucs down by 4. Winston goes back, hits Jackson in stride, Jackson to the 30 … to the 20 … oh wait … Jackson is slowing down … now he is dancing …. the defender is catching up … Jackson blind sided by the defender he didn’t see. Fumble! Bucs lose!
March 19th, 2017 at 9:04 am
Dreambig, i can see it now. You stop posting stupid BS and keep your Bigdreams to your self… Stop being a Depressed Fan
March 19th, 2017 at 10:00 am
Dan Solaz …as a regular JBF poster here. I’m more excited than you are. I think some fans just get caught up in the negative and can’t get out. Some have a rep to protect after all. lol
March 19th, 2017 at 10:48 am
I hear u Buc1987.
March 20th, 2017 at 10:35 am
Jackson is going to improve every other pass catcher we have. His ability to drag a CB and Safety deep downfield, will just make both Evans and Brate even more deadly.
And they are both dominate now!
That was some quality research Joe. And hopefully ends the”Vincent Jackson is slow”nonsense forever.
Really excited about this draft. Finally getting to the point that we are Shopping for impact players- instead of desperation to fill huge holes.
I love Drafting “Toys” for Jameis. But this draft is so deep in defensive ends!
We could draft an Impact DE at 19, and still get a Rb, Te,and Wr in rounds 2-4.
I really like Zay Jones in 2nd or 3rd, or even more- Josh Reynolds in the 4th. He can contribute now, and become dangerous, as he puts on about 10 pounds of muscle on!
Do nice not to be shopping for a starting QB!!!
Free agency may still have a surprise or two- but the Draft will definitely be fun this year.
Cant wait.
March 21st, 2017 at 10:39 am
i believe if our first pick is not dalvin it needs to go on a defensive player either another pass rusher or safety there’s so much defensive talent we’d be foolish not to pick these guys up and what’s going on with demarcus walker some mocks got him going in the 4th??? the hell if he’s there in the 3rd round i say we get him that’s a mean mf right there and robert ayers isn’t gonna be around forever demarcus has that same type of mentatlity