Saints Bag Ted Ginn For Peanuts
March 12th, 2017
Joe lost more hair last night.
There was the scroll across NFL Network, the Saints signed solid returner/legitimate depth receiver Ted Genn, Jr., for just $3 million guaranteed, a three-year contract for $11 million.
Why? Why? Why was Ginn not a fit with the Bucs? Joe asked, tossing and turning all night long.
What does offensive guru Sean Payton know that Joe doesn’t? Hell, the Saints were the No. 1-ranked offense in the NFL last year!
Especially after losing Russell Shepard to the Panthers, Ginn seemed like a great fit in Tampa. He is a true backup outside receiver, something Shepard couldn’t be, and Ginn contributes on special teams. He also fit in the box of “explosive” talent that Dirk Koetter covets.
There’s still time in free agency for the Bucs to get quality depth at receiver so they don’t have to pin themselves in a corner the draft.
Joe is not bitter, but Ginn on the Saints has a horrible smell to it.
March 12th, 2017 at 8:06 am
Well….. there’s still Patterson
March 12th, 2017 at 8:07 am
Because he’s old as dirt Joe. How many 30+ Dude’s did you expect us to sign?
The Saints got far worse offensively. They dumped Brandon Cooks for Malcom Butler, and replaced Cooks with Ted Ginn.
That’s a loss for them and our gain.
March 12th, 2017 at 8:10 am
They’re also a numerous amount of incredibly talented young guys in rounds 1-3 that we can bring in to contribute as much as Ginn would have. And you cannot underestimate the development of Adam Humphries.
I’m not gonna panic about Receiver depth until all is said and done.
March 12th, 2017 at 8:12 am
Oh yeah, … and he has hands of stone.
March 12th, 2017 at 8:26 am
We are not a team that is closing on its windows,,, so we don’t need every old vet on the market to squeeze out a year or so!!!! This team still has room to draft and develop and pick of late cuts!!!! whats with joe and old receivers anyway???
Go Bucs!!!!
March 12th, 2017 at 8:29 am
I’m not with you on this one Joe. We signed DJax which is huge. We have Evans, DJax as a #2, and Humphries is an adequate number 3. Can’t have 4-5 1a and 1b wide recievers. I would think if there is someone decent available in the 3rd or 4th round they may add him for depth and he will probably be just as good as Ginn is and much younger. I am firmly of the belief that we need to get Cook or McCaffrey with that first pick. At this point I am not going to lose sleep that they may have to use a 4th, maybe even a 5th rounder on a #3 or 4 wide receiver.
March 12th, 2017 at 8:29 am
Maybe he didn’t want to play here! As a 3rd or 4th wr
March 12th, 2017 at 8:29 am
Agree. He still has wheels and great return guy. Stupid we didn’t sniff him. Our return guys Ryan smith and josh huff are pretty horrible
March 12th, 2017 at 8:30 am
Blake FTW!
I’m not gonna panic about Receiver depth until all is said and done.
EXACTLY!
March 12th, 2017 at 8:34 am
So, I guess the Panthers let Ginn go for “no good reason” You really have to ask….Why would a team let a player go for peanuts?
March 12th, 2017 at 8:39 am
Maybe he just didn’t wanna play here. It’s entirely possible that the Bucs reached out, and there were no further communications because he was already interested in the Saints. There’s not much to be made out of this.
Cordarrelle Patterson is also still available. He would look real good as depth, the primary returner, and maybe even as a gunner.
March 12th, 2017 at 8:41 am
Lol and the Panthers replaced Ginn with Shep.
March 12th, 2017 at 8:42 am
Eddie Royal , Cordelle Patterson but, lets try to sign Taylor Gabriel away from the Dirty birds!!!
March 12th, 2017 at 8:45 am
I would not want us to give up a 2nd round pick for Taylor Gabriel lol
March 12th, 2017 at 8:47 am
Kick the tires on Coradelle Patterson! That will solidify our special teams and give us more speed at receiver. Not to mention if DJAX go down we’re in the same place as last year. 1 or 3 year deal and that will give us and A in free agency!
March 12th, 2017 at 8:49 am
I find only one thing about this story somewhat funny. As Blake pointed out the Panthers replaced Ginn with Shep and Ginn goes to the Saints.
Two moves in our division that won’t appreciably affect us. Hate to lose Shep but it’s not the end of the world. Our team is not weaker because of it…as long as we find a ST player to take his place.
Funny though that receivers played musical chairs in the same division.
March 12th, 2017 at 8:50 am
I think Taylor Gabriel may be faster than T Hill. Kid has moves and that it factor! After watching his highlights again I would certainly consider a second rounder.
March 12th, 2017 at 8:57 am
@Billy Buc N Brazil
I just watched Taylor Gabriels highlights, and when they were showing the Thursday Night shellacking we received at the hands of the Falcons, one thought sprung to the tape of my head…
We need to add speed to our secondary, at Safety and at Corner.
March 12th, 2017 at 8:59 am
Luckily for us I think 10-11 guys at the combine in the defensive backs group ran low 4.4’s
So this would be a great year to do it.
March 12th, 2017 at 9:03 am
**Update: Guy that can help us compete
Offense
• QB Nick Foles
• WR Quinton Patton
• WR Kamar Aiken
• TE Luke Willson
•
TE Ryan Griffin• RT Bradley Sowell
• T/G Austin Pasztor
• G John Jerry
TE: Ryan Griffin (27) signed a 3 year, $9,000,000 contract
• Height: 6′ 6″| Weight: 265 lbs
• REC: 50 | REC YDS: 442 | REC TD: 2
March 12th, 2017 at 9:10 am
Yes Blake, I am with you! Obi, Baker or Adoree would suffice!
March 12th, 2017 at 9:11 am
I would rather have signed Kendall Wright, but we lost out on him too….went to play with Glennon and the Bears.
March 12th, 2017 at 9:12 am
T Gabriel said he could take all world U Bolt in a 39 yard race!! Just saying..
March 12th, 2017 at 9:13 am
Speed in the secondary is always a good thing but I don’t think you can stop a passing attack with it. One thing is the certain way to stop a passing attack…put the QB on his backside! No matter how good the WR’s are…how fast…if the QB is eating turf it becomes a moot point.
March 12th, 2017 at 9:27 am
Stpete, my viewpoint is this, A strong Secondary is always a positive, because it gives your rush more time, and a more consistent opportunity to get there.
Mike Smith did a decent job last year eliminated the non stop quick slant game plan that Lovie smith got burned with week after week. But our secondary got gashed for a LOT more big plays last year. It could have been breakdowns in communication, it may have just been guys getting burned on the back end.
Their are some game changing prospects at Safety this year. 1-2 of them will fall to us. And don’t believe Joe for a second. If we don’t Resign Bradley Mcdougald, We are absolutely not set at safety. Wilcox and Conte are back-ups. So we would still need to add a starter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoXL6gsuFNs&t=208s
Budda Baker could be that guy. Earl Thomas loves his game. And they have very similar styles of play.
March 12th, 2017 at 9:36 am
Blake_bucsfan
Even if we sign either
• S Bradley McDougald
• SS T.J. McDonald
I would still pick up a safety in the draft
Either in the 2nd or 3rd round.
March 12th, 2017 at 9:49 am
I touched on Genn yesterday , a former (#1)a PUNT RETURNER and big play guy and a great #3 or 4 receiver for 3 mil………….. Talk about the Saints putting themselves in a better draft scenario !!! The Bucs havn’t had a consistent great punt returner ( additional 30 yards of field position a game ) for over a decade !!!
Licht whiffed on that one but still like what he has done !!! Go Bucs !!!
March 12th, 2017 at 9:53 am
I think Licht is hoping and praying and holding out in the thought that John Ross falls to us… plus they really like Humpries
March 12th, 2017 at 9:54 am
I thought all Bucs fan have no hairs left by now.
March 12th, 2017 at 9:55 am
Marlon Mack will be our return guy
March 12th, 2017 at 9:58 am
He might not want to play here, but I don’t think we went after him. We get a guy in the draft and we’re good. I think VJax might still be in the plans on the cheap if he’s fully healthy.
March 12th, 2017 at 9:58 am
Shepard is a better WR. Heck I’m a better WR, at least when it comes to catching the ball.
March 12th, 2017 at 10:12 am
Ginn never was any good until he got to the Panthers. I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes back to his pre-Panther form with the Saints.
March 12th, 2017 at 10:22 am
Blake if the pass rush got to the qb sooner the receivers wouldn’t have time to get into the deeper routes. A qb hurry can be a great thing so they’re forced to look closer eliminating big plays. If the line cannot at least pressure the qb then you need a fast secondary. Now Brees is one of those qbs you need to sack and pressure and hit and bat down balls and intercept on a regular basis because he shreds defenses no matter what. He doesn’t feel pressure he applies it.
March 12th, 2017 at 10:25 am
Only problem I have with that dave is that you are underestimating how quickly JJ and Gabriel get down the field. Idc how good your pass rush is. Your not gonna get there in 3.5 seconds or less every single play.
March 12th, 2017 at 10:27 am
This doesn’t scare me really. The Bucs have dealt with Ginn plenty of times. Yeah, he’s productive, but he’s not Kelvin Benjamine or Julio Jones….or DeSean Jackson of Mike Evans.
March 12th, 2017 at 10:34 am
Don’t love sleep Joe. The guy has a hard time catching a cold. I’m much happier that Cook’s is gone. Every team makes moves that on paper make them look more competitive. But I’m guessing that our moves Look scarier to the rest of the NFC South than their moves look to us.
March 12th, 2017 at 10:59 am
Damn Joe every time i turn around you yelling for some old ass players we want to stay young dude your really trying to turn this team into chuckys team well its not geesh no more agents we want young people THANKS
March 12th, 2017 at 11:00 am
“…the Saints were the No. 1-ranked offense in the NFL last year!” – J0E
Exactly…and what did it get them?
That’s why I want our defense fixed.
March 12th, 2017 at 12:32 pm
Ted Ginn has been an absolute bust of a 1st round pick for all but one year of his career. He had one year in Carolina where he actually caught the football.
Remember that time when the Bucs signed Desean Jackson to be our deep threat and situational punt returner? Why would Ginn want to come in here when the Bucs just signed someone better to do exactly what he does?
It is called “free” agency. These guys are free to go wherever the hell they want.
March 12th, 2017 at 12:58 pm
Fixed??? Did you not the defense the second half of the season??? If we had just a tea spoon more of production from the O we would’ve made the playoffs. This D got exactly what it was in need of. Some girth in the middle.
March 12th, 2017 at 1:01 pm
I can’t recall who said but I agree with it. You use free agency to bolster your defense. The draft to bolster your offense.
March 12th, 2017 at 1:39 pm
So as we sit, that Panthers are relying on Shep to be a #3 wide receiver, and the Saints are giving up on Brandon Cooks and decided to bring in Ginn.
I don’t know about you guys, but I’m feeling pretty confident in our offense right about now
March 12th, 2017 at 2:35 pm
THey’re done spending money on WR, simple as that. With Evans commanding 15+ million in the next year, plus DJax’s 12 million, the rest of the receiving corps is going to be minimum and low salary guys. One or two will be a drafted player. Joe’s constant harping on receivers that got away is as outlandish as his unabashed worshipping of the orange fascist.
March 12th, 2017 at 4:55 pm
I think what you will see is the bucs drafting a Ted Ginn type player, who can develop into DJax’ replacement while running around on special teams and as a #4 or 5 WR
March 12th, 2017 at 8:00 pm
Please don’t remind me of that bucs_365. I love the site and the info we get on all things Bucs, but it is hard to understand how anyone could feel good about you know who as the leader of the free world.